What's been going on Frank ?

[wsbill]

What are you two doing on a day to day basis?

Is she smoking like a chimney?

Cussin at you in Russian?

Fill us in.  Have you gotten one of the guys wives to talk to the girl ?

I think we have few guys from Houston or DFW that are darn near local calls.

[Frank O]

... in response to What's been going on Frank ?, posted by wsbill on May 23, 2005

I post more in detal when this is over. She is smoking over a pack a day, & I just got $19K yesterday (invstment) & she thinks she entitled to $8K so she thinks next week she's going home with $8k. Yeah right!!!
Basically at this point she is being a suka (Russian term for our bitsh).
I think I just need to let her go because she is NOT the girl I married & sometimes I wonder if she ever was. I mean when I married she already smoked but lied to me. She said she didn't smoke for the whole period I was there. So I guess from the start there was deception. Oh well. Heck if I WAS getting sex I wouldn't complaining AS much!

[Robert D]

... in response to Well.., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005

not to cast stones, but the smoking in the start would have been a no no for me.  Seems to often go with bad attitudes in women often.
terry

[Felinessa]

... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Robert D on May 24, 2005

I'm sorry, Robert, but you have absolutely no basis to link smoking and "bad attitudes."  It's a ridiculous and patronizing assumption.  It's your right to not want to date a smoker, but the fact that someone smokes means only that she smokes, not that she has character flaws.

[LP]

... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Robert D on May 24, 2005

[This message has been edited by LP]


...So smoking and bad attitudes go together? Thats quite a stretch. Some of the finest women I've ever known smoke. It's a habit, nothing more. A bad one yes, but nothing more. Rejecting a potential lifelong partner simply because she smokes at the time you meet her seems downright bizzare, almost as bizzare as accepting her based on looks, age, etc. That's like saying women should reject lawyers out of hand, except there may be a tad more validity to that line of reasoning . And not to beat on Frank but if he'd paid even the slightest attention to signs other than minor stuff like smoking he wouldn't be where he is now. MOB men....sheesh.

Hey Frank, you're turning this into a circus. Is that what you want? What purpose does it serve? If I were you I'd hold off until you have something concrete to offer. Also, how does a girl who was so homesick she wanted to leave (with a mother that was encouraging her to do so) become a girl who now wants to stay and has a mother offering her legal advice so she can? Interesting no? And momma was a problem from the start? And Jack was beating on you all along? I still feel for you but even my sympathy has limits...

[Robert D]

... in response to Hmmm...., posted by LP on May 24, 2005

Knew that would get a rise.  meant that the number of packs a day and strange initial attitude together.  I have know a few smoking women that were ok, but addictive behavior is the issue for me.

[Frank O]

... in response to Hmmm...., posted by LP on May 24, 2005

It was the LYING about smoking. I just don't or wouldn't prefer smokers. However SAYING you don't but you do...well you get the point. As for Jack "beating" on me Jack just told me months back she was not on the up & up & I chose to ignore some HUGE red flags. I'm paying for it now. I'm NOT blaming everything.

[tim360z]

... in response to Hmmm...., posted by LP on May 24, 2005

The butts ain't the problem.  The problem is how your sweet lovely bride of 2 years suddenly materializes on the K3 and has somehow turned into a money-grubbing-affectionless-back-to-Ukraine-viper.  Coached to pillage and plunder.  I dunno here?  Something ain't quite right?  I get a funny feeling about this.

Frank,  something just ain't on the level here?  Whattcha' tink?  Tim

[Frank O]

... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Robert D on May 24, 2005

That's part of the problem. When I was there she NEVER smoked never even HINTED at it. I remember I asked about a pic I saw once with her with a cig. She said it was a joke & I dismissed it. That's part of the problem. I didn't know till WAY after the fact. Had I known I would have NEVER pursued that. I DID meet several other girls that smoke but that "disqualified" them for me.

[wsbill]

... in response to Well.., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005

You live down near old Mexico right.

Hey, suppose you drove across the border without any paperwork on her...

She can't come back into the USA.  I'll bet she could find work in that border town real EASY.

[Cold Warrior]

... in response to Well.., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005

I thought this was a Christian girl.

[Frank O]

... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Cold Warrior on May 24, 2005

You know THE determining factor in me choosing her out of the other girls WAS her belief in God!!! Strange. I'm NOT perfect but I am a FIRM believer in the Word of God. She was the ONLY girl of ALL of them who would talk about the bible & discuss religeon etc. Now she believes some kind of new age crap from a book someone gave her back in September (strangely when all our problems started) call "Way of Fool". There is even a web page called weboffool.com but it's in Russian so I can't understand it. Anyways I thought the same but there has been a SERIOUS change spiritually in her.

[Globetrotter]

... in response to Well.., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005

Sounds like she's telling you in many ways she doesn't want to try, or stay.  So be it.  If you ask yourself...what is she able to do, and what is she likely to do....you will be in a realistic position to decide, even though it sounds like you're already there.

My squeeze, when I started discussing a pre-nup, asked for half the value of my house....but only after one year!!!  
What a deal for me.  She knew I worked for an international consulting company, then she learned I owned it.  When I broke it off, she told me how she was God's gift to men and the type of woman men dreamed about.  I told her that men would decide that, not her.  I thought I had done everything right, picking a responsible girl, not much younger than me, she had kids (her son was 10), was responsible.  They know of divorce rights here, and many think Westerners are stupid (many are).  Anyway, I guess what I want to say is "Buyer Beware" and recognize that all women are the same.

I would bet you'll come out of this OK...disappointed and a little poorer, but much smarter.  Good luck.

[Scaught]

... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Globetrotter on May 24, 2005

Globetrotter:

This is sincere-- You are the smartest guy who has ever posted on this board.

Everyone-- learn from this guy!!!

[Frank O]

... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Globetrotter on May 24, 2005

Now he REFUSES to leave & wants $9,000 she feels she is entitled to. Not sure how she arrived at this figure but this was thrown around back in December. She wanted $8K "in case things didn't work out she could return to Ukraine & have a 'life'". Starting to sound like a REALLY bad scenario for me. I've got my atty's working already.