My Wife's Views

[Charles]

My wife was reading the threads regarding Frank as well as the "do's and don'ts" and she offerred the following:

1.      Ask yourself what you have to offer a Russian woman?  Most of them are highly educated, well read, and intelligent.  If you're living in the country or small town, you're more likely to have problems.

2.      Take the time to understand the Russian soul.  Read some of the Russian classical literature - Pushkin, Tolstoy, etc.  As has been mentioned before, you're not going to be able to "Americanize" them, so an understanding of their history and culture will be very helpful in deciding if this is a woman for you.

3.      She agreed with the observations that a 20 y.o. probably lacks the maturity to make an informed decision on marriage.  It's almost like marrying a child, she said.

FWIW

[Ryan]

... in response to My Wife's Views, posted by Charles on May 26, 2005

I asked my wifes opinion also....

First she does not have anything good to say about Ukraine women.  She tells me about a time when she was in Turkey and everyone was talking about the Ukraine women and such..Not good... Anyway.. I have to agree somewhat it just seems a high percentage of the scamming is coming from this country... I myself fell into a little problem when I was in that country...

#1 She felt the girl was much too young..
#2 This man Frank must have felt something wrong and didn't bother listening to his heart...
#3 We could not understand why get married on a K3 then be apart for so long after... It's just strange..

Not much different then what has been said time and time again on this board..  Anyway my heart goes out to Frank it has to be like a bad dream...

[Robert D]

... in response to Re: My Wife's Views, posted by Ryan on May 26, 2005

I mentioned women from the Ukraine to my Russian friend, and she was odd about them, but I am not sure what is so bad about them?  Is there a cultural difference between Russian women and women from the Ukraine.  Why do people say to watch out for women from the Ukraine?

Robert D.

[Philb]

... in response to Re: Re: My Wife's Views, posted by Robert D on May 27, 2005

Prejudice.  If you have read any historical accounts of Ukraine, you would note that this attitude has roots that go way back.  

More recently you will see this manifested in Stalin's man made famine in the the 30's or in the way Ukrainian troops were deployed during World War 2. The official attitude was that Ukrainians were something less than a true Russian.

Is there a basis for this? No more than there is a basis for any type of prejudice.

[Charles]

... in response to Re: Re: My Wife's Views, posted by Robert D on May 27, 2005


I strongly disagree with the idea there is something wrong with Ukrainian women.  There are many posters on this board, including myself, who are happily married to Ukrainian women.  Be careful about the generalizations about Ukrainian vs Russian women.  I really don't think Frank's problem is that his wife was from Ukraine -  there are many other issues that explain this sad result.  Generally, my opinion is that there is no difference between Ukrainian and Russian women.  For example, in Crimea, where my wife is from, 75% of the population is Russian.  I would be very leery about making such generalizations.   We have many Russian friends from Siberia, Moscow, St. Pete, etc. and there is no material difference among them.  FWIW, you can have a bad experience or get scammed by a woman from any of these places.  I would give little weight to where they are from and focus on other attributes.

[Streetwise]

... in response to Re: Nothing Wrong With Ukrainian Women, posted by Charles on May 27, 2005

It's good to hear some positive feedback at this point. Frank's recent misfortunes, Travis's previous experience, and that dreadful Bulgarian women's guide which wsbill has discovered, which all share a common thread, are enough to make us all feel like hanging up our boots and turning away from the FSU. What about you Frank, do you think you will "go again" at this? From my observations I still believe that there are many good hearts out there, although an increasing number are being corrupted by greed. At least these events have generated some good posts with sound advice, and the most important is to be honest with yourself. We all know deep inside if something is not right, whether it is immaturity, cultural/language gap, materialism, lack of interest or affection, what you will; we just have to accept it and look elsewhere. The lady who said you must ask yourself what you can offer was spot-on; if your lady is a lawyer in Kiev and you are a sheep farmer in Inverness, it is going to be difficult. And you must at least feel some meaningful mutual chemistry, which is virtually impossible if there is a serious language barrier or lack of understanding about the other's mentality/national character.

[Frank O]

... in response to Re: Nothing Wrong With Ukrainian Women, posted by Charles on May 27, 2005

NT

[Robert D]

... in response to Re: Nothing Wrong With Ukrainian Women, posted by Charles on May 27, 2005

don't know if there is a difference, but I was just wondering what the rumors or opinions were valid or not, as to why people say that about women from the Ukraine

robert D.

[Scaught]

... in response to Re: Re: Nothing Wrong With Ukrainian Wom..., posted by Robert D on May 27, 2005

There's nothing wrong with Ukrainian women?

Huh???

How about the epidemic of thyroid dysfunction and birth defects due to Chernobyl? The wind blew back towards the SW, spreading the cesium 137 far, far, far from the power plant. It's working its way into Kiev's water supply.

Yeah, if you are lucky you can get your family tree in on the mutations! Go for it! You can qualify for a free, special bus for your children. I don't know... maybe the gas is free, too.

Don't take my word for it. Read. Open your eyes.

You guys crack me up!

[Bobby Orr]

... in response to Re: My Wife's Views, posted by Ryan on May 26, 2005

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then duh........

Frank, we warned you ie. 1. from Ukraine, 2. from the capital of scammers, Lugansk, 3. young and immature, 4.  doing a K-3 instead of a K-1, 5. no prenuptual agreement....

Here is the big cluebat:

A.  Get a darn good divorce attorney / immigration attorney, get your disaster annuled and get her butt out of the country sooner than later.

B.  Forget about your "love" for the girl and desire not to "hurt" her.  You have let a creature with a prison mentality into a gilded canary cage.  You must do everything possible to get her out of your life or you will be the one racked over the coals, repeatedly.

Best of luck.................