Some people are looking to get suckered....

[Frank O]

Man I don't know how many people I know who are getting suckered by girls. Some people I hate to say it, & I"ll probably get in trouble for saying it but some people DESERVE to get screwed for being so gullible.
I just recently went on my 1st trip to Ukraine. I swam with the sharks in Lugansk & learned a lot & even played & got the best of some scam agencies myself. The thing is I went to see ONE girl but was prepared for the WORST & had intentions of seeing others if it didn't work out. Well thanks to Jack who helped me GREATLY in Kiev & to MYSELF in Lugansk I went out with 5 OTHER girls apart from the one I went to see. We are still writing each other but I learned I can do just fine WITHOUT an agency on my own over there. I had a time range that I gave myself (3 days) & when things didn't go PERFECT & went out & had NO TROUBLE finding other girls.
I have certain friends who are STUCK with a lady who are obviously scamming them but they are so deceived or blinded or just plain stupid that they can't seem to let go & help THEMSELVES out of a losing situation. I really just have NO PITY for people who don't help THEMSELVES. I needed help with a couple of things but once I have the girl in front of me I'm very quick to make a judgement call REGARDLESS of hot HOT the girl is or how charming she appears to be. I don't know I just had to get this off my chest after reading some of the posts here.

[Jeff S]

... in response to Some people are looking to get suckered...., posted by Frank O on Dec 12, 2002

Unfortunately many men set off on this quest for all the wrong reasons - i.e. they don't do well in the dating scene here in the US and think the pickings will be easier soemwhere else where their "rich American lifestyle" even if they're lower middle class, adds to their desirability. If through naievate, shyness, or inability to detect deception, they get stepped on at home, it sure makes sense that they'll get stepped on over there. The people who seem to succeed at this endeavor seem to have their act together before they go - are desirable men in their own right to women at home, but just wanted something different or extra. If you plan to go scuba diving in shark infested waters it's far safer to get trained and hone your skills in a swimming pool so that you know what's up when you hit the shark's environment. Female friends, sisters, cousins, aunts, etc. are often willing to help you out with some training in the tactics of women. Hone your dating and BS radar skills at home first where it's less expensive both from a monetary and comittment standpoint, before venturing out into an unfamiliar environment. Just my 2 cents worth.

- Jeff S.

[tim360z]

... in response to Some people are looking to get suckered...., posted by Frank O on Dec 12, 2002

can be a total fool for an Aw,  there are millions of those stories---- so he can definitely be a fool for an RW.  The big difference is the agencies with their agiprop and small deceits for biz.  And there definitely are some agencies who are larcenous.  They lure in the gullible and unsuspecting.  There is money to be made.  Just need to bait the trap.  Then,  there are some girls who individually run a con for dollars,  which the unsuspecting guy sends.  In either scenario the guy has a weakness which can easily be exploited....he is lonely for a woman.  And maybe for one that is far too good looking and young than ones who may normally be attracted to him.

With the Aw a man is a fool,  full-time face to face.  In the RW scenario he can be the fool through emails and fantasy.  And maybe a short visit.

There is no substitute for real time in-person face to face time in a relationship.

[John LV]

... in response to Some people are looking to get suckered...., posted by Frank O on Dec 12, 2002

I'm not sure what to say, but there is a long lasting myth that there are more girls than guys in this world.

This is nothing more than a modern day lie based upon a WW2 reality, sure when most of the men went off to fight wars, there was an imbalance of men to woman.

But since through genetics we know that the Y chromosome swims to the uterus faster than the X chromosome 72%-75% of the time, we can then infer that there are about 3 guys to every one girl in this world.

You have imbalances in certain areas due to many factors, most of which include men moving to larger cities and woman staying in small towns with family and friends.

Any guy, no matter how good looking, has to compete with so many other guys to not only get a girl, but keep her as well. I have never been good a doing either. Not everyone can be successful in this area, not everyone has the ability or the skills to do so.

Girls like guys who are cocky, sure of themselves, and to a certain point who are ruthless and mean. I have none of those qualities, nor can I put on an act as if I do.

If you treat a girl well, she will walk all over you, if you treat her bad, she will respect and love you. I cannot deal with this apparent dichotomy.

Therefore I lose.

David

[bryan]

... in response to Re: Some people are looking to get sucke..., posted by John LV on Dec 12, 2002

The statistcal probability of a male (X) or female (Y) baby is 50/50. The only factor that skews this # is environmental,in most cultures the parents prefer males so when they have a boy they stop trying to have children. This can account for MAYBE on half of a percent. Where do you get this sh!t dude

[John LV]

... in response to Re: Re: Some people are looking to get s..., posted by bryan on Dec 14, 2002

I'm a scientist and philosopher, and it's ignorant people like you that makes me not want to live in this world anymore, I don't know where you've grown up, I don't know what schools you have attended, but the idea you would act as if you know what your talking about has got to be one of the biggest jokes I've ever heard of in my life.

You act as if this knowledge is not commonplace, and if you don't even know such a simple thing such as genetics, certainly you don't know about more complex things such as the significance of the law of the conservation of energy and E=mc/2 with respect to the human body, or how time slows down the further you get from the surface of the earth, or speeds up the closer you get to the center of the earth, or the significance of quantum chaos, or the beauty of quantum theory, or the understanding of global society with respect to brain sex theory.

"Learning that which is already known is not the challenge, learning that which is not known is"

David Lewis Kuvelas
Philosopher

[Travis]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Some people are looking to g..., posted by John LV on Dec 14, 2002

You think to much! Live a little...with the right woman that is!

[mudd]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Some people are looking to g..., posted by John LV on Dec 14, 2002

how did you go from DavidSD to johnLV?

[John LV]

... in response to DavidSD, you stil posting on here??, posted by mudd on Dec 14, 2002

Who are you?

My old sparring partner? Mark was it?

[mudd]

... in response to Re: DavidSD, you stil posting on here??, posted by John LV on Dec 14, 2002

actualy i dont think i ever sparred with you when you were DavidSD, i just kind of ignored your off the wall comments, and then you really went "off the wall" and vanished. i just noticed after someone else pointed out that you used to be DavidSD. a good "off the wall" commment is difrent now and then, but yours were, how to put this........completely diffrent. so why the new name??

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: Some people are looking to get sucke..., posted by John LV on Dec 12, 2002

Only women you do not want are attracted to not being treated nice.

Women feel secure when a man is the take charge type. If he is a balanced blend of confident and caring women love that. Women do not want a man that they can walk over. Many test men to see what he is made of.

[Mike]

... in response to some truth but in the end BS David, posted by thesearch on Dec 12, 2002

You got that right! A women will test you in many ways and I'm not even sure they know they are testing you. There is the girl that wants what the other girl has, and there are the girls that want what they can't have. I've noticed over the years that by being a gentleman and when it's called for be dominaiting seems to cause a consistant admiration in women. I suppose it makes them feel like daddy"s little girl?? You know treat them with affection but when they act up scold them, or at least they think he will scold them who knows but it seems to make sense. I do know by talking to many girls that are friends of mine that they don't like a wimpy guy,or a guy they can dangle around their finger, but yet they want a man to treat them like a lady and be sensitive. (again something like a good father)

I doubt anyone can give another man advice on how to be what girls are looking for, and expect that man to always be that way. If he doesn't already have it going in he's pretty much screwed until he see's the light himself. This stuff is how I see things with AW. As for RW I"m banking on them being not much different except they preffer a little more cash security to go along with it then an AW.

Mike -- who has done ok with women, Married to a RW and still isn't 100% sure what makes women tick, and when he's dead maybe God will explain it all.

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: some truth but in the end BS David, posted by Mike on Dec 13, 2002

I agree with you. Funny thing is that even if you explain this to a guy who is blind to it ----- they can not seem to change.

Maybe there should be a school. In this school you go out on a fake date with your instructor and the guy has a shock collar around his whatever and the instructor gives you a shock from her remote every time you are doing something wimpy -- then she tells you why she did it. LOL

[Griffin]

... in response to Re: Re: some truth but in the end BS Dav..., posted by thesearch on Dec 13, 2002

[Mike]

... in response to Re: Re: some truth but in the end BS Dav..., posted by thesearch on Dec 13, 2002

That really got me laughing when I imagined a guy with his eyes poping out and his hair standing up! I bet that would take the wimp out of him -- hmmm hey you may be on to a million dollar idea there!

Mike