My Horror Story

[LP]

... in response to Re: David - Surprisingly, I Don't Bear Y..., posted by John LV on Nov 29, 2002

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[Dan]

... in response to Re: David - Surprisingly, I Don't Bear Y..., posted by John LV on Nov 29, 2002

Don't you suppose that a person with an IQ of 186 would be able to learn from one's mistakes?

How is it that the blessing of intelligence and the penalty of suffering are inextricably-linked? Surely someone with an IQ of 186 would be capable of lowering themselves to be able to explain such a dilemna to those of us "average persons".

While you are at it - maybe take a crack at explaining the sorts of "suffering" that burdens you - in terms we mere mortals might understand.

I'll humor you for a time David. It's been a while.

- Dan

[robobond]

... in response to David - A Conundrum For Those With an IQ..., posted by Dan on Nov 30, 2002

Dan,
I think you erring in equating a high IQ with common sense or street smarts....
Bob

[John LV]

... in response to David - A Conundrum For Those With an IQ..., posted by Dan on Nov 30, 2002

What sort of suffering?

Good question.

Imagine knowing how and why this world is all wrong, imagine knowing how good this world could actually be if only people understood the truth about this life, about money, about power and the misuse of it.

Imagine not only understanding how bad everything is, but being reminded of it day and night without end by everything around you, as if you had a pair of glasses that can see what others cannot.

Imagine being able to see with these glasses how the world is full of lies, deceit, half-truths, manipulation, and evil. Imagine knowing that God does exist, and imagine that you know this because he came into your room and saved you from an evil being, imagine knowing what his voice sounds like since he spoke to you, imagine knowing what his presence feels like, and what his presence sounds like. Then further imagine how you can't tell anybody this due to the fact they will think you are a crazy nut, imagine how nobody you can ever know on this planet can understand this, that you stand alone with this knowledge.

Imagine knowing where this world is headed in the near future; imagine knowing how bad things are going to get for all of us. Imagine knowing that evil is all around us, tempting us at every corner, laughing at us, enjoying our suffering.

Imagine knowing that God exists, yet you don't have the knowledge of why he allows all of this to happen, why he allows such suffering, such cruelty in this world.

Imagine having such incredible knowledge of the truths about this world, given to you by God himself, yet this knowledge only brings great sorrow and pain, not success and pleasure.

Imagine knowing that so many people are so selfish, so jealous, so envious, so cruel and unkind. Imagine seeing how the whole world is caught up into money, where almost everything everyone does is for the pursuit of something so evil and wrong as money.

These are only a few things that bother me; the others are too painful for me to speak openly about them.

[Griffin]

... in response to Re: David - A Conundrum For Those With a..., posted by John LV on Nov 30, 2002

[John LV]

... in response to David - A Conundrum For Those With an IQ..., posted by Dan on Nov 30, 2002

Well, do you understand good and evil at its basic root with respect to the human brain?

Do you understand the two controlling forces that control all human behavior?

Do you understand the implications of Brain Sex Theory on society?

Do you understand that God does indeed exist, and that evolution is merely a good lie?

Do you understand the significance of The Law of the Conservation of Energy, E=mc/2 and the human body have in common with respect to your spirit/soul?

Do you know with absolute certainty that when you die, you’re not really dead?

Do you understand Quantum Chaos? Quantum Consciousness, Quantum Mechanics both with respect to particle physics and chemistry? How about ordinary Quantum Theory? Do you understand General and Special Theory of Relativity? And if so, can you explain in simple terms how time slows down the further you get from the surface of the earth as measured with the mathematical concept of measuring rods and clocks? What about Atomic Particle Theory? Or Neuro Science? Cosmology?

Do you understand Sedonia on Mars, or Ezekiel Chapters 1 through 10? What do you make of what happen in Mexico City in 1992? What is your opinion of the anomaly at Mount Ararat in Turkey?

Do you understand basic things such as how electric engines work, how steam engines work, how rockets work, etc.

Do you understand how the basic function of a microprocessor works, and how that interrelates to the software used to interact with said processor to make a computer compute?

Do you understand what money is? Where it comes from? How it is used to control people? Do you understand how money is evil by its very nature? Do you understand how money is wrong on a quantum level?

Do you know what quantum means? Can you explain the basic geometry of the theoretical Space Time Continuum? Can you name the theorized 8 different dimensions to the Space Time Continuum?

If you know about any of these things, please let me know, I would be interested in debating with you.

[Globetrotter]

... in response to Re: David - A Conundrum For Those With a..., posted by John LV on Nov 30, 2002

David....

Ever been in a knife fight in Kabul, and you didn't have the knife?

Ever had an AK47 clip fired at you in Tehran?

Ever been through Pakistan's NW Frontier Province?

I have known several with genius IQ's, who lacked common sence.  They really belonged in labs doing research, not in the real world.  You can only be helped when you decide you need it, and then do something about it.  Learn about life the way things really are, as opposed to the way you would like them to be, since you seem to know enough that comes from science books...so now learn something that can help you in life.  

Money is only evil if you use it that way.  Bill Gates gave away $25B last year to world health, and recently $100M to India for the fight against aids.  Ewing Kauffman put 2500 black and Hispanic kids from Harlem through college, as did Geraldo Rivera and Opera Winfrey..in lesser numbers.  Not bad eh?  I want to do the same with however much I can afford.

My Irish friend, and the greatest man I ever met, would say,
"It's a great life, if you don't weaken."

But then, what do I know.  I'm just the Moe who soloed too soon, got lost at 5000 ft., and had to buzz the expressway to read the road sign.  But, I got back to the airport, landed safely, and made it home that night.  Now, that's smart!!!

If you are so smart, you will know how to fix what is wrong, when you decide something is wrong.  You can do better, when you decide to do better.  

I assume you had a prenup, because that really would have been smart.

Sorry for your misfortune.  A little preparation goes a long way.

Best of luck in the future.

[BarryM]

... in response to Re: David - A Conundrum For Those With a..., posted by John LV on Nov 30, 2002

nt

[LP]

... in response to Re: David - A Conundrum For Those With a..., posted by John LV on Nov 30, 2002

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.....forget it Davey, I've studied your malady and now better understand why this post was not in your (or my) best interests. Go see someone, thats all I have to say.

[John LV]

... in response to Oh please... . ., posted by LP on Nov 30, 2002

I remember you Lear Pilot.

Listen, I'm afraid I'm a little too depressed now to argue with you, I'm still waking up everyday not believing what has happened to me with this girl. If you know my past, then you indeed know that I have lived a very troubled life. But I tried to put that behind me, I tried to find a special girl from a far away place and be happy for once.

And for a short time I was happy, I was so proud to have such a beautiful, smart girl in my life, and I honestly tried my very best to make it work, I put everything I had into it, giving up all the things that I had formerly done in my life. And now that it’s over with this girl, once again I'm completely lost. I don't have a family, my mom died a month ago, and she was the only person I could talk with. My wife has left me, and my life is basically ruined, I have no friends, and socially I cannot function for whatever reason.

I wish I could go receive help somewhere, but I honestly don't believe that anyone can help me, except perhaps to give me some drugs to artificially make me feel better.

LP, I like you, I respect intelligence, and you obviously are very intelligent, you have my respect. I don't think I'll be posting here much anymore though, I have so many things I must do about this situation, and I barely can muster the strength to do anything. The one thing that meant more to me than anything else in this life is now gone, and not gone by death, not gone by the relationship not working out, but gone by betrayal, and that is very hard for me to accept, actually its hard for me to comprehend.

I still cannot believe it, and I think it will be a long time until I can wake up and accept the reality of what has happened to me. To me this world is such a lonely and cold place, and no I would not want to pull dead people from rivers, or see burned people, I'm simply not tough enough for that, you have no idea how weak I am to all the wrongs and sufferings that happen on this planet. My whole life has been so painful, and at 35 I'm getting a bit tired of it. I'm finding it very difficult to find a reason to go on, I've already discovered more truth than I care to know, knowledge for the sake of knowledge no longer interest me, I have no family or friends, nor do I have any goals anymore, any desires, everything seems boring to me now, especially since doing anything would require doing it alone.

What am I going to do, go to East Europe again and find another girl who would only be willing to be with me simply because she wants to come to the land where everybody is good looking and tan, where everybody is rich, and where everybody is so happy?

To be honest with you, living takes far more courage than dying, I really don't know how you and others can do it, I don't often get very envious of others, but in this case I suppose I am envious, I wish I too had the courage to make it on this planet, had the courage to watch the Trade Towers crumble and imagine the people inside, imagine their families grieving for them. Imagine the little kids around the world who are suffering from starvation, malnutrition, parents who neglect them, the murders and sick individuals that the FBI has to deal with all the time. People who have sex with dead people, and then eat them. Kids who for fun play games that are all about murder, killing, rape, stealing, beating up cops, etc etc, and act as if there is nothing wrong with that.

To be aware of the corruption at every level in society, from judges, to politicians, to cops, to governments, to businesses, etc. To realize that when you go buy a new car, that person or persons are going to professional try they’re very best to rip you off the best they possibly can, all while smiling at you and pretending to be your friend. Or the person who signs you up at the gym, knowing they will say anything to you in order for you to sign, even when that includes lying and deceiving you. Or when you watch TV, how everything you see is for money, how all the shows you watch were made for money, not for entertainment, entertainment is low on the priority, its money that makes people do what they do. To the commercials that constantly without end try to convince you, (even lie) to get some of your money, all while acting as if they are your friends who want to help you.

Everything is a con, everything is a scam at some level, even relationships themselves are this way, people are selfish and they want sex for themselves, they want companionship, they want love, but often they don't care about what the other person wants, just what they want, what they can get from the relationship.

I'm tired of seeing all the pain, tired of seeing all the suffering, to me life is worthless, without meaning, nothing has any value, nothing has any substance, it is like what King Solomon said, "it is like chasing the wind", its futile. No matter how hard you try, no matter what you do, you will never catch the wind, it will be forever unattainable, and that is an analogy to what we all want, including evil, to be happy. Evil is just happy when everything is bad, that’s why evil prospers in this world, this is their world, and they like it here. But good must suffer here, for there is little good left on this planet, and things are getting worse and worse everyday.

I can assure you that soon world events will accelerate around Israel, soon very big things will start to happen that will culminate from and around Israel, we are all headed for global chaos, global financial ruin very soon. I know it would be nice to not believe this, but unfortunately I have no choice.

Maybe you and I could have been friends LP, who knows, in person I am a very nice guy, too nice I think for this world, I don't fit in anywhere, I don't belong anywhere, I'm an outsider looking in who cannot bare what he sees.

I say with absolute honesty LP, take care of yourself, I wish you the best, be happy if you can, love your family and friends, for there isn't much time left. How long I do not know, whether it starts in 1 year, or 5 years, or 20 years I cannot say, but my best guess is within 5-10 years from now, although it could be much sooner, impossible to predict. Or it could be 50 years, but one thing is for certain, man will destroy himself, that is his destiny. What is stopping the Jews from taking massive action against the Arabic world right now I will never understand, but I can assure you they won't take this abuse much longer, and when they start, the whole world will get involved, and when that happens, look out, it will make WW1 and WW2 look like romper room.

Take care LP, and I will try my best to do the same, it was nice talking with you again, even under the circumstances.

[BarryM]

... in response to Re: Oh please... . ., posted by John LV on Nov 30, 2002

especially if one is so gullible to believe all of the crap they hear.

-blm

[Dan]

... in response to Re: Oh please... . ., posted by John LV on Nov 30, 2002

And call your nearest Crisis Center. Read this message (the one I am responding to) that you wrote - to the people on the line. Ask for a referral to the nearest available mental healthcare professional - and GOOOOO!

You need the help - and you need it soon.

Nothing anyone on this board will write is going to help you.

Seek professional assistance NOW!

- Dan

[wsbill]

... in response to Re: Oh please... . ., posted by John LV on Nov 30, 2002

It's just too deep for someone who is truely depressed.  But the depth of his words, resonate with the wanna be shrink we have on this board...

No doubt, Saturday night is visiting the Library night in his family life.

[Del]

... in response to Oh please... . ., posted by LP on Nov 30, 2002

I can only answer about 45 - 47% of this.
Guess I'm just an ol' poor dumb farm boy! Whew - just about had me reaching for the encyclopedia for a moment.
Caught myself in time and reached for a coffee instead. :-)

[LP]

... in response to Well LP, I didn't pass this quiz..........., posted by Del on Nov 30, 2002

.....not bad for a farm boy!  lol, how'd you narrow it down to that last 2%?

Trust me, the coffee was a wise decision. Shows wisdom beats knowledge anyday of the week. ;-)