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Author Topic: RW dental needs - Costs in US?  (Read 22207 times)
Dan
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: RW dental needs -  Costs in US? , posted by Oscar on Nov 17, 2002

n/t
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Oscar
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Where Would You Start?   n/t, posted by Dan on Nov 17, 2002

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rickmoe
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to RW dental needs -  Costs in US? , posted by Burt on Nov 16, 2002

Reminds me of my first trip to Ukraine in 1993 (I'm a dentist). I asked for dental floss, and was met with blank stares, it wasn't sold anywhere! (Kiev included). Some people told me they used sewing thread. Basically though, the standard of care is susstandard to US, so be prepared for dental expenses, the older the lady, the greater (usually) expense.

Rick G

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robobond
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to RW dental needs -  Costs in US? , posted by Burt on Nov 16, 2002

Burt,

To me one of the values of this forum is a bunch of guys with accepted common goals fraternally jolting each other back into reality when one of us goes adrift and seems to need it.  So when you ask "is this a selection factor that deserves some consideration?" I answer YES.  

I think that this along with other general medical conditions is worthy of discussion as it is a matter that can quite easily bankrupt you.  DOES THAT GET ANYONE'S ATTENTION?  Although my feelings are based on personal experiences not relating to a particular RW or her kids, I would suggest that all of you give this matter a lot more attention than you do.  

I say this knowing that it's easier said than done.  (1) While we(men) are supposed to be the "logical" creatures when it comes to the differences between AM/AW's thought process', I think you can rule this out when (a) we are in the emotional love trip (b) we are in the 'rutting' mood.  Then it's "F___ the practical, F___ the logic, let's just do it!"  

My background includes (1) I'm now looking for a Russian bride & been there twice.  (2) I'm now in the middle of extensive dental work.  (3) My ex was diagnosed with a rare terminal blood disease a few years ago.  (4) I had a quadruple bypass operation at the same time (young by anyone's standards).  Let me tell you, all this S___ is expensive!.  

Dental: Cosmetics don't seem to be as important in Russia (my Opinion). Although dental work is free they seem to have to pay extra (off the books) for quality.  In the US some consumer organizations have recommended against even buying dental insurance coverage as the annual premium almost approaches the annual benefits available (which are quite low compared to other health coverages.) If you have kids involved, check out your coverages on braces.  My periodontist told me last week that implants were not covered under my plan -- he ballparked three at about $9-10,000 total.  This and other planned work could easily approach $50,000 in the next 10 yrs. - I've had American dental work done all my life.  The obvious and cheapest alternative always is to yank the teeth and put in choppers -- do you want that for your new bride or yourself?.....

Health: My bypass was done by the best Doc on the East Coast - he's been written up in Time Magazine - his bill (for the surgery alone) was over $75,000 -- the whole procedure easily topped $100,000.  My ex's only chance of survival, as diagnosed by the best hospitals in US - we went to them all -- was a bone marrow transplant - entry fee $650,000 -- add in follow up care & you're easily over $1mm - for this disease it's "experimental" - good luck on insurance coverage -- I'd have to sue to get any at all...

Do you still wonder if this is worth consideration?

I'm sure you'll get a smattering of personal stories re: your question but good luck on putting that into any kind of statistical advice because the data isn't there.

Burt, MY (it's free) advise to you:

You simply cannot over-analyze (note that this includes the word 'anal') this stuff when it comes to getting married AND you're getting older all the time.  Like, how many clinical analysis' and medical questionnaires can you submit your prospective family to?  What do you do in the absence of test results?... put qualification clauses in the marriage vows?  Obviously, you can't wring out all the risks here.  Take a quick and educated scan of the situation, ask her questions about your largest concerns, hold your breath, and say "I do."  Remember, "I Do" is a better or worse thing.  Almost all AW get married with this vow but in retrospect I think they are only committing to 'better' -- if it hit's 'worse' she's outa there!

Especially for you unmarried bachelors w/ no kids, check your current insurance coverages and ask a LOT of questions.  You may just have a policy that's great for you but perfectly s___ty for a family...

If you get too critical on your analysis you're gonna destroy the romance of the whole thing and become a cold-blooded A--H---.  If you get too sloppy on your analysis you're gonna become a very poor schmuck.  THAT's the fun of it all!  And so with all that concrete advice, just jump on in there and you are gauranteed to succeed (or fail)!  I think I just went on a rant here so I apologize for that.  

Bob  

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wsbill
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Let's talk teeth, folks!, posted by robobond on Nov 16, 2002

To the dentist on board, what are the major alarms you have seen with their teeth ?

I just can't seem to grasp that their workmanship is so lousy.  As long as she is doubled over with pain.  Why replace it... I mean, how long do their filling last compared to ours.

Are you talking about denistry skills of the indivdual or the material compounds?

Don't say both, as one will have to out weight the other in retrospective.  Which one is the main concern.

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Dan
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re:  Tell me just how bad there workmans..., posted by wsbill on Nov 17, 2002

I will tell you that our dentist told us that he has worked on quite a few people from the FSU and they nearly all have similar issues.

In Olya's case, the dentist left one root canal unfilled. The Ukrainian dentist also applied a bonding compound that was incompatible with the type of material used as a facade for the tooth. The lack of workmanship was evident in the polishing job that was (or should I say - wasn't) done to the exterior of the teeth. And the basic materials used for tooth exteriors - particularly those which are seen often (in the front) were substandard.

All aspects of her experience with dentistry in Ukraine were sub-par when taken in comparison with American dentistry.

Notably, this dentist made the same observation that I made in an earlier post - the people he has seen from the FSU are all conscientious about their dental hygiene. The problems arise from a lack of materials and professionalism on the part of the dentists. Not all FSU dentists, I am sure - but enough to suggest it is an area worth some attention.

FWIW

- Dan

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Pordzhik
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Let's talk teeth, folks!, posted by robobond on Nov 16, 2002

How yous gonna take a peek into them fillys mouths without making them feel like horses at an auction?
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Zink
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to I'm wondering, posted by Pordzhik on Nov 17, 2002

I've found romantic music or a boring movie and a couch to work for inspections of dental hygiene.
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wsbill
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: I'm wondering, posted by Zink on Nov 17, 2002

Why not just slip them a Mickey.  Poof - lights out!
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robobond
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: I'm wondering, posted by wsbill on Nov 17, 2002

WS, I think that thought is another thread.... but, it has potential....   Smiley
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BURKE89
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: I'm wondering, posted by wsbill on Nov 17, 2002

is this your preferred method of sedution (keyboard isn't allowing: the letter "after b" at the present)?

Sad...

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wsbill
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to So, Bill..., posted by BURKE89 on Nov 17, 2002

Like the women at the morgue.  (sic).

But the whole point was to check under the hood to find any real potential problems.

I could break out my photo collection of my hydroponic tomatos and really knock'em out.  Course, this would probably turn them on.

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Zink
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: I'm wondering, posted by wsbill on Nov 17, 2002

I kind of like my girls a little more lively.
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Pordzhik
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LOL
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I'm wondering, posted by Zink on Nov 17, 2002

Just make 'em laugh and all is revealed.

Or bore them til they yawn.

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KenC
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: I'm wondering, posted by Zink on Nov 17, 2002

n/t
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