Ukraine Lady Coming to US (Part II)

[micha1]

... in response to Ukraine Lady Coming to US (Part II), posted by BruceJet on Nov 5, 2002

here's the deal, you have made a hell of a mistake.

I would tell her that youy were given very bad advice, let
say, from a friend whom had been had.

What I would do is,  buy her a ticket (no refund, no exchange.....etc.)  .... and get it to her as soon as
possible.

It is my believe that you did have reasons to worry,  but
had no reason to let her know.

Remember, women never forget these things and somewhere
along the road in the future,  somehow you will get the
invoice.
Take care and good luck

[Quasimoto]

... in response to Re: Ukraine Lady Coming to US (Part II), posted by micha1 on Nov 5, 2002

n/t

[BURKE89]

... in response to Ukraine Lady Coming to US (Part II), posted by BruceJet on Nov 5, 2002

must be rather wealthy. I certainly could be wrong, however, I was under the impression that type of 'readily available cash' was reserved for a different class of people. Yes, the type involved in nefarious dealings. Perhaps this board has made me a bit paranoid, yet, if I were you, I'd like to know who this 'friend' is. That's quite a chunk of change for the average 'best friend'.

Nevertheless, I think it's a splendid idea for her to come here First, for all the obvious reasons aforementioned.

Good luck,

Vaughn

[Stan B]

... in response to Her best friend..., posted by BURKE89 on Nov 5, 2002

some people do have that kind of $ and aren't in the mafia. My wife has a few friends that have their own businesses and have $. Plus when I was there, there were quite a few new houses being built that were large, modern and not cheap looking. So obviously some people had money.

[yoe]

... in response to believe it or not, posted by Stan B on Nov 5, 2002

many people have money-they just do not tell the gov. my wife made $300 to $400 a week selling plane tickets. How do people think that they live on $0 a month? It is like here. I paid myself $40k a year-but I spent over $300K so tell me, how much did I make?
Joe

[BruceJet]

... in response to believe it or not, posted by Stan B on Nov 5, 2002

Also, they are young professionals working for a multi-national company so they earn good money (in Ukraine standards), got good education and family background.  

I guess my lady's ability to gain the US Visa is one sign that shows she has capability and good background.

[Alfred]

... in response to Ukraine Lady Coming to US (Part II), posted by BruceJet on Nov 5, 2002

I believe Austrian Airlines flies between Dnepropetrovsk and the US via Vienna.  I believe that this might be a seasonal flight.  It may also be more expensive than having her travel to Kiev for an international flight where you will have more options.

Someone like Jack at FirstDream can help with the Dnepro Kiev leg.

Personally, I would rather go visit her there first, but that is not an option here.  Good Luck.

[KenC]

... in response to Ukraine Lady Coming to US (Part II), posted by BruceJet on Nov 5, 2002

Bruce,
You made a big mistake in verbalizing your doubt to her.  Be very cautious and try to verify that she is not misleading you, but don't confront her with your doubts.  You are in a no win situation when you do.  If she is being 100% honest, you will offend her.  If she is being dishonest, you will only tip her off to be more careful in her deception.  Hopefully, you have only offended her.  SUCK UP TIME for you now. (Tell her you got some bad advice)
KenC

[Quasimoto]

... in response to big mistake, posted by KenC on Nov 5, 2002

n/t

[BruceJet]

... in response to big mistake, posted by KenC on Nov 5, 2002

THanks KenC for your tips.

So you think there is still a possibility of her being a scammer?  

One of the things that I am really afraid is having someone who is a professional dater...comes here on a freebie and goes out...

Also it seems that she trusted me that I would pay her 100% when she comes and so that is like saying--"You dont trust me, but I do trust you"

What would you advice once we meet here?

[Quasimoto]

... in response to Re: big mistake, posted by BruceJet on Nov 5, 2002

I think you will know pretty soon what her interests are. If you feel you are the focus of the trip, it will reveal itself. If it appears she is coming here for a vacation and smoozing, including potentially other men, it will reveal itself.

On the other hand if you are doing fine together, then you had better be ready to back-track, and let her know you were the fool. This is the most popular scam going along with the sick mother routine.

Steve

[KenC]

... in response to Re: big mistake, posted by BruceJet on Nov 5, 2002

Bruce,
"Scammer" is a much over used term here.  Let me just say that in order for your relationship to work out, there are many unknowns yet to be uncovered.  The biggest hurdle yet to come in MEETING EACH OTHER.  Until that happens, this is just a fantasy for both of you.  My advice is to take it very slow once she arrives.  Get to know her as best you can and don't try to "sell" America to her, it is YOU that should matter most to her.
KenC

[AndrewinOH]

... in response to Re: big mistake, posted by BruceJet on Nov 5, 2002

I still think something sounds fishy here, but this is your life, your money and your emotions. I would call her comments regarding trust basic reverse psychology...."I trust you, why do you not trust me?"...well, she has not really got anything to loose has she? I hope things turn out good for you both, but from these postings today, something does not sound kosher.

With respect to advice on what to do when she gets here, unless this is the first ever time you have dated a woman, go with what comes naturally. Be yourself and hope above all else that she falls in love with you and not the notion of coming here to get something better once you have paid for everything.

I am no expert, hell I am divorced so I am no relationship guru, but the only thing I will say finally on this matter is er on the side of cautiousness. Even $400 is a lot too loose, but broken hearts are even harder to mend. To quote a somg lyric, "memories fade, but the scars still linger". I wish you the best of luck, just be careful.