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Author Topic: I screwed up big time  (Read 3165 times)
juio99
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« on: November 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

As most of you know, I have no qualms about admitting that I am not the winner that most of the rest here are.

In my most recent trip, I was fairly cautious about spending big money on the ladies, especially for first dinners.  I knew to do so would set the bar for future dates, a future life together, etc.

But, I made one exception that was a little bit planned and a little bit of spur of the moment.  One lady was a physician, looked very classy in all of her pictures, had excellent English, etc.  I showed up dressed to hilt and so did she.  We looked very prosperous, she was very, very warm, so, I said what the helsinki, and took her to posh restaurant.  Ran up bill big time, she ordered everything on the menu, or so it seems.  But can't blame her . . .  I took her there and said something like . . . have anything you want.  I could tell she felt like being in heaven.  She was probably thinking, 'this is the life I have always wanted and this is the life that a person of my education and postion should have.'  She glowed through out the meal and continued to later that evening.

On two other occassions we also ended up at posh restaurants and ran up big bills.  In fact, I spent more on her for three meals than I spent on 11 other ladies in all combined meals.  Also spent big time for expensive ballets, etc.  It just kept happening because it felt right at the time, and some of it was just circumstantial.  I know it sounds crazy, but we would just happen to be near expensive restaurant when we got hungry; her most favorite ballet that she was dying to see just happened to be that night, etc.

As I say, I can't really blame this gal, but then again most of the other ladies shied away from expensive restaurants  and ballets, indicating that they were 'too expensive."

Anyway, my screw up is coming home to roost because I am starting to plan another trip to a southern location with two or three of these gals as I did last year.  This gal would be near the top of my list, but I know that it would break my bank to take her.  Anything less than the first class way we went before will be a big let down for her and ruin the trip for both of us.  Note, I never told her or bragged that I was rich.  I just spent too much money on her.  Also, the sad part is that I think she would have been just as happy if we had 'gone the cheap routes' the first time around, because as many of you know, the physicians don't make very much money there, and aren't used to big spending anyway.  But now, she is used to it . . . at least with me.

I knew the appropriate procedure before . . . . don't spend big time for first meals . . . . but I violated my own rule.  Now I am paying for it by having to eliminate one of my top choices.  Don't see any way I can sell her on the idea that we can't spend that much money in the future.  For the short-run on holiday together, she would be a sour puss, and for long-run, it would set up all kinds of questions in her mind about whether I was really a pauper, was I trying to 'buy her attention' on first dates, etc.

JR

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tim360z
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to I screwed up big time, posted by juio99 on Nov 6, 2002

you certainly did contribute generously.  Its your money, so what the hey.  But,  probably not the best route to take.  So,  just tell her you really wanted to splurge a little with her as you had never had dinner with such a charming lady before.  That "you" also felt that you were in heaven with her.  I find most RW's who come here to be very realistic about money.
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Quasimoto
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to I screwed up big time, posted by juio99 on Nov 6, 2002

Why not offer the "big-time", or offer "the man", and see which she takes?

Tell her the truth about your first encounters. Let her know the realities. This sort of situation pissed me off about one lady from Kharkov, who TOOK me to various places, all of which were outrageously expensive. One place wasn't even that good, and yet cost me $150 for 3. The meal was rather meegar. She was spoiled as hell. I left her after 5 days, and barely had enough money left for the last 3 weeks. I wasn't rich either, but she was rather demanding, and I had no idea about where she was taking me.

Money can be your biggest curse pertaining to expectations. Just be frank, and see if she is interested in the life-style or in you.

Steve

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wizard
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to I screwed up big time, posted by juio99 on Nov 6, 2002

You may try to explain to her that you normally don't go first class all the time, but when you met her it just felt right (truth)... That you were trying to make a good impression (truth)... That you did not want her to get the wrong impression, which is that you're a rich americano (truth)... That you like her and that you just want her to know what's important to you (truth)...

You do like her don't you??? Well, don't throw that away just because you got a little carried away...

She will either appreciate the sentiment and love you forever, or, drop you like a hot potato...

This way you stand a 50/50 chance of rearranging her perspective... Versus 100% loss if you write her off...

The truth will set you free...

wizard

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thesearch
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Maybe not..., posted by wizard on Nov 6, 2002

This approach can not go wrong, as he has accepted the worst already. This could reverse the whole problem. Her true nature will be revealed in how she responds to the TRUTH.
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KenC
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Maybe not..., posted by wizard on Nov 6, 2002

Wiz,
You are right on the money.  When my wife & I spent time in Moscow, I had a similar experience.  We were doing things right in Moscow but the prices were higher than I had expected.  I told my wife that we needed to cool it a bit because I had not planned on such expenses.  She had no problem with downshifting into a less expensive mode.
KenC
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wizard
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to novel idea, telling the truth, posted by KenC on Nov 6, 2002

Unfortunately many people don't think of telling the truth first... It's common in our culture (US) for people to embellish on the truth to put their own spin on reality... I think Juio was just having a knee-jerk reaction to the picture he had painted for his lady... Guys in this country have been conditioned by AW's perception of value and worth, which equates to "how much can you spend on me"... Not bashing, just my experience...

I understand juio's situation, getting carried away because he likes the woman... I think we have all been in this situation before, trying to make a good impression with a woman we like... I like to blow it out as much as the next guy, as long as you know your presonal limits...  It's not easy though when your dates with these women are 3 - 4 month apart... Just backup, take a deep breath and let her know what you limits are... No sense cutting off you nose to spite your face though...

His reaction to write her off because he had painted an unrealistic picture for this lady is understandable... Just tell her the truth, that you got caught up in the moment and like her SO MUCH, that you blew some cash on her... He'd probably get some mileage out of it too... If she didn't understand, I would write her off... The last thing you need is a gold-digger... There are plenty of those here!!!

Just my opinion...

Wizard

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