successful disaster

[snowwego]

this will probably be my last message. warsaw was a success and everything was good until she found my house was to small for her three bedroom home was not big enough and it looked old they said. Mother daughter It is a 8 yr old modular. I am giving them 2 nights in hotel then putting them on a plane back see ya, She is wacked and our food here is no good in the states. food is all old when in cans by everybody. they also said it gave them an allergic reaction tick

[thesearch]

... in response to successful disaster, posted by snowwego on Oct 4, 2002

What a bummer. I feel for you.

[BarryM]

... in response to successful disaster, posted by snowwego on Oct 4, 2002

[This message has been edited by BarryM]

I think there is a possibility that your fiancee has decided it's not such a good idea to immigrate to the USA. She probably is not ready to get married and she's making excuses is harsh cold manner. I wouldn't call her a scammer unless she does this again to someone else. If she keeps advertising at agencies then she is a gold digging harlot.

Sometimes a woman will behave horribly when she has decided to break things off. It may be a way of preventing you from trying to change her mind about leaving.

You avoided a disaster, so you are successful.

-blm

[Rags]

... in response to Cold feet = cold b!tch...., posted by BarryM on Oct 5, 2002

Where do you get all this from the little that Snow wrote?

You are getting a little "trollish" IMO.

[BarryM]

... in response to Excuse me Barry..., posted by Rags on Oct 5, 2002

My main point was the possibility that Snowego's fiancee decided to back out of marriage at the last minute. It's also possible that she did not want to argue or be convinced to stay. Of course she feels guilt. The best way to achieve that result is to play the offensive cold b!tch. She gets a ticket home without any hassles and without having to make any excuses.

Is she a scammer? Maybe. She didn't get a luxury vacation but she might have got some cash prior to the trip. Still, her leaving after 2 days is far less a hassle than if they got married and she decided back out then. Another long time PL poster, Dande, had a similar situation. His fiancee decided to go home after 2 weeks. She wasn't a scammer, just not happy with the situation.

Maybe Snowego's girl will write him when she gets home, apologize for all the trouble she caused, and explain why she decided to leave. Then again, she may not feel any guilt at all and she may really be a cold scamming b!tch.

-blm

[Patrick]

... in response to successful disaster, posted by snowwego on Oct 4, 2002

And I think you're making the right decision.  I've seen this type before (in Latin people).  If they arrive and immediately start complaining about the US, they're most likely never going to change, and will never assimilate well into our culture.  Twenty years later, they still "hate" the US, they still don't speak English well at all, but they still don't go back to their country.  You don't want that type of person in your life.

[Rags]

... in response to I don't think the complaints will stop, posted by Patrick on Oct 4, 2002

Patrick, my wife is still not too crazy with some aspects of American life (neither am I for that matter) but she is here to be with ME not just to live in the US.

I listened to a lot of what some people would call complaining but in reality it was more of thinking out loud and using me as a soundboard for feedback.

Yes there were preconceived notions of what life would be like here (thanks to her only frame of reference, HOLLYWOOD) but we talked through the problems and concerns.

I will not say that she loves America as much as her homeland but she will live wherever I choose. Whether she will ever totally "assimilate" to life in the US remains to be seen.

[wsbill]

... in response to successful disaster, posted by snowwego on Oct 4, 2002

Maybe you should contact one of the trusted guys here on the board and have your lady talk with their wife... That is if you really do love this lady.

If you're having second thoughts, well that's why you bought a round trip ticket.

Gee, I still like the concept of giving her atleast a 30 day vacation...but that's just me.
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Just remember guy, there alot of ladies living with their parents in some old dumpy highrise, wondering what a backyard is ?

[robobond]

... in response to Re: Maybe you should , posted by wsbill on Oct 4, 2002

What round trip ticket?...

[robobond]

... in response to successful disaster, posted by snowwego on Oct 4, 2002

Rick,      I feel for you, man, and sincerely hope that this is NOT your last post.  

Other than a few informational questions before you headed for Warsaw, the following were about your last two posts.  Sounds to me like you had a spooky premonition about her having no concept of middle class (which is what she walked into.) i.e., she was expecting either what she had OR a mansion in the sky, but NOT something in the middle.  Going further out on this theoretical limb it sounds like she was here for a percieved lifestyle and not you.  Last, I am wondering what affect moving here with a teenage daughter (17?) factors into this whole culture shock process.  I don't think you can seperate the collective personalities when a FSU woman moves here with her children.  I have yet to read anywhere on this forum about guys spending any time getting to know the children involved.  I think upper teens would be more difficult to figure than pre-teens.  17 year olds have a lot of adult ideas because they are "almost there" but lack the maturity to be making all of their own decisions.  Just some food for thought...

I hear your anger and your pain because I've experienced parallel situations too many times in my life.  At least for you it did not take 10 or so years for the "irreconcilable differences" to surface and hit the fan...

I'm sure you know the cure for what ails you -- when you're done licking your wounds, get back up in the saddle and try again.

Bob
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"Posted by snowwego on 08/21/2002

my fiancee had to heat water on the stove to take a bath and then mix with what little cold water. That trickled out of the tap. NOt mention do not drink it or wash your teeth with it. Then to use the old wash water to pour down the toilet. The girls only know a little of what it is like here and they do know that some poeple have nice homes there. They do not understand that we have many levels in the standard of life here. Yet we all can live decent. Over there you are either have very good money or poor. basically they have no middle class"

"Posted by snowwego on 08/22/2002

You have to remember the only good men in the fsu/russia is the ones with a high education and a good job (not many). Most others, not all can not afford a family. My point is that they only know that a good education is a better life. The poeple from the FSU/russia, for the most part, do not understand the middle class thing."

[Oscar]

... in response to successful disaster, posted by snowwego on Oct 4, 2002

Snow, I guess you lost me here..  Are you saying that her Mother came here with her??  If so, why was that?  I met one girl who said she insisted her Mother come to the states to live with her.. that was our last date!  

How well did you know this girl, how much time did you spend with her or communicating with her?

Really sorry this is happening..

Oscar

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: successful disaster, posted by Oscar on Oct 4, 2002

His lady had a 17 year old girl that came over with her...

[LP]

... in response to successful disaster, posted by snowwego on Oct 4, 2002

....and please don't take this the wrong way, but isn't there supposed to be love involved in this somewhere?

Hey Jack, keep towing that line! ;-)!

[joe]

... in response to Sorry to hear...., posted by LP on Oct 4, 2002

Well Lp! you romantic...hehehehehe
Love is what happens after the sex is gone!
But a condo on the beach-can be ammortized!
Joe
ps. this is not a game for the weak at heart-too many people get hurt!

[LP]

... in response to Love?, posted by joe on Oct 4, 2002

...Tough break. Fact is, I do feel for him. No one deserves this kinda crap.

As I said in a recent post: The harder you work to get something, the harder it will be to lose, especially when the thing you worked so hard to get is doing the deed.

For the best I suppose. One bright spot: Proves she wasn't after a visa.
I just don't understand her motives is all. It ain't over yet, maybe she'll change her mind. After all, it's a big shock to her system.

Hey Rick: You be one tough guy to spill this, my compliments.