In case anyone is interested....

[Oscar]

... in response to I agree on the warning signs..., posted by Frank O on Oct 5, 2002

I think this is why it is very important to do some real "homework" on a girl.  What I mean by that is to be sure to see her with her family and friends, how she interacts with them, and ask THEM lots of questions, not just her.  See how she treats waiters, shop clerks and taxi drivers etc..  I personally adhere to the idea of it being good going on a few trips before making a decision, to get to know the women there, and I feel that's hard to do with just meeting one girl.  The more you go and the more women you meet, the more likely you are to be able to spot potential trouble or scammers.  If you meet more women, you will hopefully not be as determined to hang on to a potentially bad situation because you have learned from experience that there are plenty more to choose from if one isn't working out.  That's just my personal opinion and not all guys may agree.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: He was right, posted by Oscar on Oct 5, 2002

Yeah... you're right. I'm sure there were signs.

Rick will probably even agree with you.

But there's no sense in hitting a man while he is down just to be smug, Oscar.

Obviously he knows he made a mistake. I applaud him for taking the actions now, that's the point.

There is nothing he can do to undo the actions of his past. I'll not criticize him for something he should have seen, or something he should have done. I wasn't in his situation. I didn't feel his emotions. I wasn't there at the beginning of his romance. I'm not going to criticize him.

But I will applaud him for his current actions. And for his candor. His willingness to share this painful moment is helpful as a lesson for all of us.

In many ways, under the right circumstances, what happened to him could have happened to you. Or to me. None of us can say that we are coldly objective in this...

[Frank O]

... in response to Easy to say, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 5, 2002

my hat's off to him. I would be too embarassed. Everyone I know knows about my girl & that I'm going over there next month. If things don't work out I'll NEVER hear the end of it so I've stopped talking about her. It hurts man I'm sure. He didn't have to share this with us but did. You gotta respect that.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Honestly I don't know if I would have sh..., posted by Frank O on Oct 5, 2002

Stories like Rick's are much more valuable than success stories.

I wish more guys would be this honest. Sharing mistakes is just as important as sharing successes.

[Oscar]

... in response to Honestly I don't know if I would have sh..., posted by Frank O on Oct 5, 2002

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[Oscar]

... in response to Easy to say, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 5, 2002

"Hitting a man while he's down"??  "Just to be smug"?  Where do you get that from?  I really don't appreciate your commets Mark!  YOU are trying to make something out of my post that was not at all my intent and I was NOT "criticizing" him!  I said "MANY of us are willing to ignore the warning signs"!  My point being that many of us overlook things we likely should not at times. If you took the time to look at my other couple of posts to him you would see that I have been very sympathetic to his situatuion!

Thanx again for trying to stir up BS where none exists.

[LP]

... in response to Dammiit Mark!, posted by Oscar on Oct 5, 2002

[Griffin]

... in response to He was right, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 5, 2002

[MarkInTx]

... in response to You have be awfully young to be so right..., posted by Griffin on Oct 5, 2002

I know a little of the background.

He treated her like a queen.

She came over hear and acted like a spoiled brat.

And I know a little more than just one side, since she is from the same home town as my lady.

I'm telling you... he's justified in sending her home now.