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Author Topic: Fished out?///?/?/??//?  (Read 23483 times)
Mark H
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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not everybod..., posted by Oscar on Aug 14, 2002

Oscar,
good luck in the future. I'm glad your situation has worked out for you. Things are not always as they seem or appear to be..regardless of who is telling you the so called facts. Keep up the good advertising, I used to have the same deal worked out. I think it went something like this "post as much as you can on the board about a certain business and I'll give you your stuff for free". Hmmmmm.

Mark H.
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Oscar
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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not ever..., posted by Mark H on Aug 14, 2002

Well, just so you understand, I RARELY mention Jack on this board, he would be the first to tell you that..
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Jack
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not ..., posted by Oscar on Aug 14, 2002

Oscar, it is a good thing you were an honorable, sincere, serious man and you followed thru with your obligations to meet all the ladies waiting for you. If you had not, you would have lost all your free priviages.

Come to think of it, by following thru with your commitments, you met your wife in Dnepropetrovsk didn't you? It is evident to me that you were serious about finding a bride. I often wonder Oscar as to why some guys go thru the motion, pretending to be serious, saying they are serious to find a Russian bride, if they really are not.

Oh well, we have all types of guys in this pursuit. I prefer to only work with serious guys but sometimes even I am fooled.
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Oscar
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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ..., posted by Jack on Aug 15, 2002

Jack,

Yes, I had actually gone first to Dnepropetrovsk, met 10-12 women, of which my girl was one, and spent pretty much a week with her. Then I had to leave and go to Odessa as I had women waiting there I had committed to meeting.  I told my girl that I had made prior committments to meet some other women and that it would be very rude and unkind of me not to follow through.  She really respected me for it too, not that she was thrilled of course.  It was hard but I left my girl and went to Odessa.  I met all the women there I was supposed to meet (10 or 12) but missed my girl in Dnepro a lot.  So then went back to Dnepro and spent the last 2 weeks with her.  I was glad I met these other women because all it did was make me more certain that I had made the right choice..

Oscar
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Mark H
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not everybody ge..., posted by Mark H on Aug 13, 2002

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Mark H
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Now I get it, one of Jack's cronnies!!! ..., posted by Mark H on Aug 13, 2002

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MarkInTx
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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Sorry dude, be cool and good luck.   n/t, posted by Mark H on Aug 13, 2002

Oscar has already found hsi lady.

The only luck he needs now is getting her through the INS hurdle (like the rest of us!)
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Mark H
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Actually, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 13, 2002

Mark, I know he has and I'm happy for him. I just wanted to apologize for letting someone else make me crabby and lash out at Oscar. That's all. Did you get my email the other day?

Mark H.
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Actually, posted by Mark H on Aug 13, 2002

Yeah... just got back from Pittsburgh about an hour ago, and haven't gotten to all of my email yet... thought I would start here and see what I was missing.

Wow! One thing about you, Mark, you seem to draw a ton of responses!
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Oscar
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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Fished out?///?/?/??//?, posted by Mark H on Aug 12, 2002

Mark,
I think the term "fished out" has more to do with the attitude about foreign men than the number of women.  In an area where foreign men have gone a lot and for a long time, women in the agencies can tend to become somewhat spoiled and demanding.  When many rich foreign men keep throwing money at them right and left, it's not hard to imagine why.  New women coming into the agencies ofen want to know the scoop from the women with experience, so they also can (not always) become jaded rather quickly.  In areas like Moscow and St Petes, there are thousands and thousands of women who have learned well how to "play the game" and they certainly pass on their information and experience to newbie girls, so it becomes increasingly difficult (not impossible) to find a woman who does not!  
Most inexperienced first timers to the FSU usually end up in one of the main "fished out" areas like Moscow, St. Petes or Kiev and don't always have the best experience.  Many of the women there have learned to play these newbie men like fiddles!

I found my girl in Dnepropetrovsk.  Few men go there.  I met probably 15 women there and there were only 3 who had ever met an American man before and then only once.  They were so much more polite and prompt and in my experience much more "sincere" than 98% of the women I ever met in Moscow or Kiev, I couldn't believe the difference!

This was MY particular experience in 4 trips to the FSU.  Other guys may have different feelings about it.  But knowing what I know now, I would never go back to one of the big hubs (as much as I do like Kiev).  I would stick to the more out of the way places, not necessarily smaller (Dnepropetrovsk is about 3 or 5 million people (I forget which), a huge industrial city, but few American men visit there because there don't seem to be many agencies there and it's not a "pretty" city like Kiev or Odessa.

Just my opinion..
Oscar
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Jack
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Fished out?///?/?/??//?, posted by Oscar on Aug 12, 2002

Oscar,

 Please, don't be telling Mark about Dnepropetrovsk women! That's a sore subject with us.
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Oscar
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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Fished out?///?/?/??//?, posted by Jack on Aug 12, 2002

Sorry Jack, I don't get it???
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Huh, posted by Oscar on Aug 12, 2002


Mark H went to Ukraine and had Jack set up some meetings for him.

Originally, Mark was supposed to go to Dep- but then changed his mind, and stayed in Kiev.

Jack's take is that since he said he was going, he should have honored his commitment and gone.

Mark's take was that it was his trip, and his money, and if he wanted to "call an audible" and stay in Kiev, that was his right.

It was a Big bruhaha... you can go back in the archives and read all about it...
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Oscar
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« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Check the archives, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 13, 2002

All I can say is, that he should have definitely gone to Dnepropetrovsk..  But personally, I really do not see Mark as being serious about actually finding a wife from his comments, just in having a "good time", and you can do that in any major hub, like Kiev..
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MarkInTx
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« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Oh yeah, I remember..., posted by Oscar on Aug 13, 2002

Well, I would never want to predict someone's motivations from posts on here...

But I think MarkH is, in fact, serious... he just wants to distance himself from those guys who have reached a point of desperation in their search -- as in: "I have to find a wife now!"

I think he is simply trying to emphasize that he is in no rush, and is willing to take his time... and that just because you go over, and come back and you are not engaged, it does not mean that you "failed".

It is not a bad attitude to take...
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