Single Russian woman in Dallas

[Jack]

I get several of these request a year, to advertise a Russian woman that is in America. I ask questions as to what the Russian woman is doing here, how she got here, etc. If she came over on a fiancee visa I politely refuse the request and give my reasons as to why I prefer not to be a part of.

On average a couple times a year I will get a request to advertise a Russian woman here on a tourist visa, in which case I ask a few more questions and a photo to what she looks like. If she is a dog, and yes, there are some Russian dogs, hate to say it, but if she is, I politely refuse because I have exceeded my bandwidth (or something like that).

So today I get a request from a very reliable source, a happily married AM/RW couple in Dallas, it is her girlfriend that she helped to get here on a six-month tourist visa, all legit from what I can see.

Ok, for those interested in a real Russian woman, and don't plan on going to the FSU themselves in the next two years, here is the information on "Maria".

Maria is 28 and from Khabarovsk (spelt many differnt ways). Never married, no children about 172 cm's tall and slim (don't have her weight but can tell she is very slim). She is a natural blonde (well, as far as I can tell) and has a Bachelor's degree in Management. As far as looks, I learned a long time ago that beauty is truely in the eyes of the beholder. Some men will without doubt find her to be an attractive woman.

I have an e-mail address for her. For any interested guys (SINGLE/NOT ENGAGED), write me, I'll send you her photo and e-mail and you can decide if you want to correspond with her.
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hehhhhheeeeehhhh,.......... what's that noise I hear,.. is that a thirsty horse?

Is that you out there Ryan?

[johnnydudeman]

... in response to Single Russian woman in Dallas, posted by Jack on Jun 28, 2002

n/t

[Ryan]

... in response to I hope Ryan's drinking "upstream fr..., posted by johnnydudeman on Jun 28, 2002

My Grand pappy always told me a thirsty horse should only be allowing four or five swallows of water, then walking it for 10 minutes then allowing it to drink a few more swallows. Walking and watering should be alternated until the horse is no longer thirsty.   What’s my point…Umm ahhhh I don’t know; I’m still confused over reading squirecam’s trip report.  Are you kidding me you guy actually do that?   I like to think about it by putting me in the women’s position; if she was the one going threw all those men how would I feel…   Just amazing…

[johnnydudeman]

... in response to Re: I hope Ryan's drinking "upstrea..., posted by Ryan on Jun 28, 2002

....upstream, downstream, I don't care.  Thank God its Friday!!!

[Jack]

... in response to Re: I hope Ryan's drinking "upstrea..., posted by Ryan on Jun 28, 2002

I think your Grand pappy was trying to give you good advice Ryan.

I am waiting to read the next chapter of squire's report, d@mn, I wish he would go to the last chapter now, the suspense is killing me! I commented before he must be a very pataint man, I do not think I could have done, or endured, what he did.

Like you, I have also tried to put myself in these ladies shoes (yea, like I could wear any Russian ladies shoes!) and what they must think of the process. I never went the route as squirecam did, but over the years I've spoken to guys that have. I know the concept has had some success, as KenC and a few others met there future wifes thru this program, but for the most part, these were some two, three and four years ago. Not sure that it is such a successful venture today. Oscar told me of some of his experience's with the process and said never again. Recently the guy who it is said has taken one to many hockey pucks to the head, Bobby Orr, said it was a complete waste of his time and money. And at $250 a day, not including travel expense, you figure what 10 days will cost you! Hell, give me three weeks, one each in Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa for the same price if you want to meet some ladies!

I think it would not be so bad if the ladies were to meet somewhere else, like in a little outside cafe, over coffee or tea. Seems so impersonal to walk into this office, go to a room with this guy, look each other over for ten minutes and it's either daaa or nyett!  If daaaa, what time will you be available next,...let's see here, oh, next Tuesday in the morning. If nyett,..paka! One such meeting at 9am, 10am, 11 am and lunch. One at 1pm, 2pm, 3pm. If you have a no show, you sit and a long wait, talking to other guys sitting on a couch with you and waiting for other ladies to show, or not to show! At least if my no show was at an outside cafe I had the chance to look at and possiably meet other ladies walking by, and such does happen!

[KenC]

... in response to good advice, posted by Jack on Jun 28, 2002

Jack,
   As you mention my name, I thought I would add my 2 cents on LTP.  As many know, I really went to meet Lena, but I also had a back up plan to meet some more of LTP's women.  I never experienced the "no shows" that a few guys talk about here.  I had one woman take off from her work, to come meet me (unscheduled) because she knew I was in the office at the time.  LTP also had MANY fine looking women to choose from.  But my experience was also 4 years ago!
   The "interviews" in the office are a bit uncomfortable.  LTP had a seperate room with a couch and some chairs for some privacy.  The conversations are akward at first, especially if there is a language barrier.  You don't fall in love during this interview, but what it does do is eliminate some of the potential women immediately.  Not that they are necessarily "bad" women, but you just know that there could never be a future together.  I met maybe 6 women this way.  I stopped "interviewing" after that because I didn't want to mislead anyone.  I felt sorry for the girls as they came in with all the hopes in the world and my heart wasn't really in it.
   The girls at LTP know the drill.  First an interview and then maybe a date.  They come in dressed to kill with their best make up and personality.  Some of the women look better than their photos and videos, some look the same and some look worse.  Their sincerity level is hard to tell.  The couple of women that I did take out on follow up dates appeared to be very sincere and they indicated that a more serious relationship would be welcomed.
   One girl I interviewed was a total knockout.  I mean breath takingly beautiful.  She was young and acted young.  Even with the language barrier I knew she was not for me, but she had other ideas.  She must have sensed that I wasn't very interested because she kept trying to prolong the interview.  I finally had to stand up and very politely explain that I had to leave as my dinner date was waiting for me in the other office.  As this fox walked through the office, another AM jumped at the opportunity.  He had his interpreter ask her to have dinner with him.  As fate would have it, we all dined at the same place!  As my date for the evening was pouring her soul out to me to make the very best impression, the other girl is constantly walking past and trying to give me signals.  She must have made 5 trips to the ladies room alone!  LOL.
Now, let's just think about this for a second.  I am being wooed by a good looking 25 year old while a 21 year old fox is trying to steal my attention.  I understand why men get so confused while in Russia!  All this is happening while I know that NEITHER one really has a chance for me because of Lena.  You also have to think about what position the other AM was in.  
KenC

[Jack]

... in response to this process is uncomfortable, posted by KenC on Jun 30, 2002

Ken,

 The thing about you, and some other, if I can use the word "smart", men was that even though you had a feeling about a certain lady, you still took the time, went thru the motions to meet other ladies.

 What one does by doing this is to either re-inforce one's feelings about his particular lady, OR, if by chance he meet's another lady that get's his interest, then maybe he is not so sure about the lady he thought he had special feelings about. To me, it is only a little insurance move. Sure you have good feelings about a certain lady, no better way to find out and know those feelings for sure than to meet a few other ladies, to be able to compare with some other ladies.

 Now Ken when you went some four years ago, I hear the Tver pond was not as well fished as it is today. But even if the pond does get re-plenished in the future, I could never see doing these 10, 15, 30 minute interviews in this private room hour after hour. Hey, I don't want to see the inside of this room, I want to see the city, life, people! This type of meeting is just a little to impersonal to me. Seems to me that this type agency would (and as I try to do) show a client all the ladies in there data base. The client would then pick out the ladies that he was interested in, then the agency contacts each of these ladies in advance and have the ladies come by to see the man's bio/profile and photo. Now once a lady, after seeing this info, says she is interested, the agency arranges for a private meeting, a meeting over coffee/tea, or lunch or dinner. The meeting in my opinion should be at least one hour long but not longer than two hours. Now, what do you do when you realize after the first 10 minutes you are not interested in this lady, or you feel she is not interested in you?? You take this time to learn what you can about a Russian woman! The ways of a Russian woman. Ask about her life, what she likes and dislikes. Ask her what problems she thinks she might have in adapting to life in America, or England or wherever this guy is from. Use this valuable time to educate yourself as to the ways of a Russian woman. Now no meeting is a waste of time.

[KenC]

... in response to this process is uncomfortable, agreed, posted by Jack on Jun 30, 2002

Jack,
   That IS how LTP works with one exception: the initial meeting is usually held in the private office.  I am sure that they would happily change it to a lunch or coffee meeting.  LTP incourages contact prior to traveling to Tver.  They provide free email and free interpretations (both ways).  As I had limited contact with most ladies except Lena, I went through the "interview" process with them.  Most had exchanged at least a few emails with me.  All had reviewed my profile and I only met with women that were interested in me.  I had a few very pleasant dates with these women.  Of course Lena and I were on a different plane and were drinking champaign with interlocked arms 1/2 an hour after meeting.  (We knew each other very well before)
    LTP is into volume meetings though.  It is not out of the ordinary for a guy to meet 20+ women in a week.  One of the salesmen now for LTP was in Tver the same week I was there.  He was a client at the time.  This guy's head was spinning!  He didn't know an Olga from a Tanya!  He had his interpreter break it off with the wrong girl.  He was parading in and out of the office with roses for his next victim.  He was a mess with the overload of his schedule.  How anyone could keep his mind straight, let alone get to know any of the girls at that pace is beyond me.
KenC