One Very Good Thing About AW

[Cain]

An AW will never use you for a green card.  I am new to this, but I think I'm seeing something many of us choose to ignore.  I got to thinking about my real motivations for wanting a woman from the FSU.  The first thing that comes to mind is that I could swing a chick over there much hotter than the ones I swing over here.

BUT, for the last few years I've been a broke college student.  In December I will be a bonifide mechanical engineer(and a good one at that, I have accepted a fellowship for graduate school at a major university).  Maybe I ought to wait and see how things pan out after that.  I know it sounds shallow, but do we not flaunt our status to the Russian chicks just as much as we do to the American chicks?  Also, the American chicks will have a better idea of the life they are getting into by marrying you.  At least if an American chick leaves you before you get married, you don't have to pay her foodstamp tab for ten friggin years!

Guys, I'm sorry if I sound like I'm trolling this board.  This is the first time I've consumed alcohol in a while.  And in the long run, I'll probably not want to mess with these ruined American girls(by the way, how did our forefathers let these b!^ches get so out of line?).  I will still continue to desire a FSUW.  I just had a drunken realization that I had to tell someone about.  D@mnit, I WILL marry a girl from the Ukraine(or Russia), I just hope I don't get scammed.  I really am sorry about this outburst guys, I'll probably regret it in the morning, but tomorrows another day.

-cain

[wilmc]

... in response to One Very Good Thing About AW, posted by Cain on Jun 13, 2002


You ask a valid question.  I will give you my personal response based upon my observations and experiences.  I may even throw in some unsolicited advice. It will be worth as much as the amount you have paid for it.

What do women want?  Freud searched a life time for the answer.  Like in real estate where the 3 most important determinants of value are , location, location and location.  I believe women want security, security and security.  In addition they want a good father for their children born or desired, happiness, romance, sexual satisfaction, intellectual stimulation, compatibility shared values, etc.  These are all extras once the basic need is fulfilled.  In the FSU there is a lot of political and economic instability, thus insecurity.  In addition a large proportion of the male population is dealing with this instability by drinking and smoking themselves to death and abusing their wives and/or girl friends.  

Therefore a lot of FSU women are seeking better prospects in the west.  These ladies tend to be more of the risk taking self confident variety. (Sounds like a description of our immigrant forefathers. I mean all of them, incuding the Native Americans whose ancestors crossed the land bridge and the Afro-Americans who survived those horrendous slave ship voyages. They truly created a "Lucky Country" that all the world envies.)  The women who have these  characteristics are apt to be physically more attractive than average.  Society curses the unattractive with a double whammy by often injuring their confidence. The result, thousands of very attractive ladies from the 3rd world who would like a wealthy, healthy, sexy, good father for their children want an American husband.

This is great news for American men.  Many of whom have been abused by women in our society who have fallen victem to unrealistic expectations.  In my experience RW's are more realistic about their expectations and a little less materialistic than the average AW.  As they come here and become more "Americanized" that may change of course.    

Yes, thanks to the INS and our divorce and Family Court system we are guilty, never to be proven innocent.  When a marriage goes bad, with very rare exceptions, the man will pay and pay, support, child care, alimony, equitable distribution of assets, etc.  Oh yes do not forget the lawyers.  This will occur when a marriage goes sour whether the bride is a RW or an AW.

I am unfamiliar with a liability to pay for food stamps if you do not marry.  I better check this out, I guess.  I understood that if you do not marry the fiancee, she must return to her native land.  

Yes, there are unscrupulous, greedy and just plane bad FSU people.  Maybe in the same proportion as there are in the west, but I do not believe in any greater proportion. The desire for a "green card" is no different than the desire by a "bad" AW to exploit a boyfriend or husband.    

I guess that each individual has his, or her, own reason for seeking a relationship with a partner from the FSU.  In your case you have considered the risks.  You would not be participating in this forum if you were not interested in the ladies of the FSU.  You are beginning a professional career with good prospects for the future.
Take it slow, establish some criteria, ex. with or without children acceptable age, height, weight other physical features, education, English skills.  Choose some candidates and correspond with them and visit with them,  Meet their families.  The archives of this forum offer a wealth of good advice and information.  
Take it slow, get into your career make some $'s  Have fun.  It is a great adventure courting RW's but the risks are just the same as seeking an AW mate.  In my opinion the hunt in the FSU is worth the trouble.  Good luck!

[BrianN]

... in response to Re: One Very Good Thing About AW, posted by wilmc on Jun 13, 2002

[MarkInTx]

... in response to One Very Good Thing About AW, posted by Cain on Jun 13, 2002

Cain,

Assuming you are for real...

There is nothing you have said that hasn't been considered, discussed and rehashed to death by everyone on this board.

You're a kid just graduating from college, so I'll cut you some slack.

But as someone who has some experience in divorce let me tell you something: It's expensive. And it's bad. And it's ugly... And that is true no matter what nationality your wife is...

And if you don't think that an AW will "take you" when she decides to go... you are sadly mistaken. (Ten years for foodstandps will seem cheap -- and btw, that's a myth, that mandate is unenforceable, and has never, to my knowlege been enforced...)

However, if your idea of making "Good money" is being accepted to a fellowship at grad school... you're going to have to wait a few years before you take this venture, anyway.

The women of the FSU may not be as expensive as AWs, but getting there and finding one sure is...

So... go date and marry your AW... we'll see you in seven years when you've been divorced, and have the money, and are as sick of dealing with the women our culture has produced as we are...

[Cain]

... in response to No, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 13, 2002

MarkInTX,
I am well aware that my fellowship pays less than a real job.  I will recieve 1300 per month from my University whereas my brother who is one year out of UT with the same degree brings in around 5000 per month.  I brought that up only as proof that I'm well adept in my field.  I have a small endowment from my grandfather that would permit me to play in the FSU almost indefinately.  I am not concerned with what I earn right now(financially anyways).  The brass ring is what matters(btw, I know it's gold, it's just an expression you may or may not have encountered).
By the way, I'm from Texas as well.  I was born and raised in Lubbock.  What part of the DFW area are you from?  Congrats on your engagement and good luck in the future.
-cain-very much for real

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: No, posted by Cain on Jun 14, 2002


Very near the DFW airport...

How old are you, btw?

[Cain]

... in response to DFW, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 14, 2002

.

[Bobby Orr]

... in response to One Very Good Thing About AW, posted by Cain on Jun 13, 2002

I live in Brooklyn, NY, home to more former FSU people than anywhere else in the USA.  I have met two women who have been married to Americans just until they had their green cards.  I am constantly warned about the mentality etc. from my Russian friends here in the US, yet I still go over looking.  Once the girls come here they get Americanized very quickly (within 5 years).  There are good and bad of all types of people, of course.  The Russian culture / mentality is different and you have to know it well before you make a decision to marry a girl from over there.  If you just pluck a pretty young girl out of a slum after seeing her once or twice  and barely corresponding with her you are going to be in for a world of grief.

[BrianN]

... in response to One Very Good Thing About AW, posted by Cain on Jun 13, 2002

:-)

[Cain]

... in response to Welcome, Mr. Conventional  n/t, posted by BrianN on Jun 13, 2002

My motivations are not entirely based on being able to bag a very attractive girl.  I find a lot of allure in the exotic aspects of dating a women from the other side of the world, especially from the FSU.  I have always been interested in Russian culture.  I will be doing my masters thesis in aerodynamics, and you will be interested to know that the aircraft that is most respected in our camp is the Sukoi SU-27 family of aircraft.  Yes, we do a lot of research for the DOD, but it is believed by many American engineers that the SU-27 is the greatest fighter airframe in the world(too bad they can't get within visual range of an f-15 or f-16 due to the radar/weapons package without going down).  What does this have to do with Russian women you ask?   I have no idea, I'm still drunk.  I'm just trying to say that my interest in all things Russian is intense.  My desire for FSUW is not purely superficial.  I was just reading too many horror stories at one time to handle.  Hopefully next time I post I will have my wits about me a little more.  I really do like the FSU chicks for more than their appearance.  Anyways, I've dug this hole deep enough for tonight.
-cain