Stupid agency or am I unreasonable?

[mudd]

... in response to Re: Re: Stupid agency or am I unreasonab..., posted by Tim M on Apr 14, 2002

thank you very much tim. i didnt know,if you had changed the matres or not, so i bought a air matress and air pump two days ago, just in case, for my next trip in august. now i guess i will have to take it back to Wallmart. :-)

[bradley]

... in response to Stupid agency or am I unreasonable?, posted by Ramblin on Apr 13, 2002

i heard one bad comment on that agency when i was in
kherson for a short visit. i mentioned this agency to my
translator-guide she said "total scam agency!"
k-pearls or k-rose? it used to be called k-rose.
it is the very same web-site. maybe they need to adjust the name. the references of their past customers on
the web-site seem to me like they might be fiction
..just passing on what i heard
from what i believe to be a well informed source.

[Tim M]

... in response to Re: Stupid agency or am I unreasonable?, posted by bradley on Apr 13, 2002

Bradley,

My wife is the owner and operator of A Kherson Rose, and we have NO connection with KP. I will not comment on them, but I think you might be talking about us when you say the refferals sound like fiction. If so, I want to point out that we now include photos of clients with our references, unlike the plethora of hotmail references some agencies use;-)

We have never scammed anyone, and I would like anybody who claims he has been scammed by us to come forward. With the exception of the clients we had in early 2000 when we still sold addresses, we know each and every one of the clients we have had in the last 2.5 years.

Not griping, just making a distinction.
Tim

[europete]

... in response to Re: Re: Stupid agency or am I unreasonab..., posted by Tim M on Apr 14, 2002

As I said, last summer I used the services of your wifes agency "Kherson Rose" and found your brother-in-law Alex and your mother-in-law to be basically crooked, conniving, and dishonest. And in my previous post I gave examples of what occurred.
I will be in Oklahoma City as of tomorrow should you wish to discuss this further.
Pete

[Tim M]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Stupid agency or am I unreas..., posted by europete on Apr 14, 2002

Hello Pete,

I wish you would point out what the staff did for you to call them crooked? [Patrick, isn't that one of the board rules?]

I personally have no idea who you are. You were not one of our regular matchmaking clients, but we have just called Kherson to find out what happened.

Our Kherson staff had one "drop by" named Pete, a Native American from Oklahoma. I am assuming this is you. My mother-in-law received NO complaints from you during your stay, and you have never contacted our office (a local call) to voice any complaints. It has been 9 months already.

You met 3 of our roses and spent little time with us. The only problem we can see is that you picked 3 19 year olds (but you were insistent). Your complaint about Kherson Pearls (heck, I can't believe I am defending them)similarly involved another 19 year old. Now, Pete, you are not one of those 57 year old fellows who chases after women 38 years younger and when it doesn't work out blames the agency are you?

Tim

PS I e-mailed europete's hotmail address with my home number, as I am happy to meet with him

[Tim M]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Stupid agency or am I un..., posted by Tim M on Apr 14, 2002

We just received an update on europete from Alex, the supposedly crooked interpreter.

Pete arranged for 3 meetings with ladies (Svetlana #91, Natasha #58, and Katya #296). Our cost at that time was $40 per meeting for "drop ins," which included 2 hours of an interpreter. Expensive....maybe (we have since reduced the prices), but we prefer to work with our matchmaking clients and most "drop ins" only ever want to meet one lady, otherwise they simply arrange for unlimited daily introductions at a much, much better rate.

Pete understood the terms and wanted to meet these ladies, despite the fact that they were 38 years younger than he and despite the fact that he was told these age ranges rarely work out. Pete did not like Svetlana or Natasha (the roses). Maybe this was because of their lack of interest due to his age--a fact they complained to us about later. He refused to fully pay for the meetings with Svetlana and Natasha. Our agency kept the $100 he had given us (the remaining $20 was due when he 'had the cash'), and we refused to do further business with him because he wouldn't pay his bill, and this may be where his "problem" lies.

With all of this BS, we are now changing our policy regarding "drop ins," and if in the future we get old men chasing women their grandaughter's age, we will use this incident to justify refusing service to them. We probably should have done this from the beginning, but you would not believe how insistent some men are.

[europete]

... in response to the story unfolds......, posted by Tim M on Apr 14, 2002

You know Tim, you really are not telling the truth!! I am getting real weary of your lies.

[Vox]

... in response to the story unfolds......, posted by Tim M on Apr 14, 2002

No matter how one looks at this disgusting situation, an Indian guy trying to get an E.E. girl, and on top of that 38 years younger is simply sheer perversion and total idiocy!!!!!!!!!
If that's not exploitation of women then nothing else is!!!!
And talking about one's pride in the own ethnicity and exploitation of other races, first what's wrong with Indian women, they are no good anymore?
Now everyone wants THE WHITE, EUROPEAN WOMAN now, to make them feel a man, to heal them of their genetic underdevelopment???
This is nothing but exploitation of the white women, pure and simple!!!
Why can't all and everybody be happy as they are and stop feeling so inferior!!!
And the Russian/Ukrainian "matchmakers" better stop catering to all kinds of such outrageous demands from such monsters, and not cooperate in such abhorent dealings, unless they will go down in history and actually be nothing but the destroyers of their own people!
To sell a girl to a guy of a different race old enough to be her granparent, all this for money, how low can you get for crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!!!
(As if any such thing will actually work out anyway!)

[europete]

... in response to Complete & disgusting perversion &am..., posted by Vox on Apr 16, 2002

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[BrianN]

... in response to Complete & disgusting perversion &am..., posted by Vox on Apr 16, 2002

[europete]

... in response to the story unfolds......, posted by Tim M on Apr 14, 2002

Again, I made it VERY CLEAR to Alex and your mother-in-law that I wanted the girls I wanted to meet to know exactly how old I am beforehand, and if they were not interested, fine. But when 2 of the 4 girls came for a meeting and gave some lame excuse as to why they were there, and  Alex just sits there looking dumb as though he had no idea why they would say such a thing. Even after the girl had left and Alex and I spoke, he could only say that he didn't know why they were like that. Not much consolation when a guy pays for taxis, meals, and a meeting which totals between about $50.00-$70.00 for each meeting. So the crux of the problem is in outlining some specific criteria for ladies to the agency beforehand, i.e., 18-35 years old, no children, physically fit, intelligent, etc. and then ending up with someone who is just there for a free meal or drink.
Those who read this board and know me, and have seen some of the ladies I have been with, realize I am not looking for just "a trophy" or "arm candy". And I am not fat, sloppy, and balding, but not Brad Pitt either.
As for your mother-in-law not receiving any complaints from me, apparently Alex didn't pass them on to her. I would have told her myself but my Russian language is not that good as yet.
Again, you advertised $100.00 per day which included overnight stay in an apartment and 7 meetings per day with various girls. Since I was living in a rented house already and didn't need the apartment, the price was still $100.00 per day for supposedly 7 meetings. But I only got 4 meetings by the way,and they were not all 19 years old, of which 2 were a COMPLETE waste of time and money, based on what I regard as Alex's and your mother-in-laws incompetence in presenting suitable and sincere ladies.
So after wasting about $100.00 on 2 of those meetings(taxi, restaurants, etc.) on the same day, yes, I felt cheated and scammed by Kherson Rose.Believe me, I did not feel good having Alex ask me for $100.00 of my money for Kherson Rose's service when he just sat there watching 2 fiascos with disinterested girls. It certainly did not feel that I got my moneys worth, and it has nothing to do with  not hitting it off with all of the girls; rather it is about being presented with girls that are sincerely interested in meeting a man they have been given some details about.
So read again in your post where you say these girls were not interested because of my age, and later complained to you. What happened to Alex and your mother-in-law letting these same girls know something about me. Isn't that part of the reason I sat in the apartment with Alex and your mother-in-law, looking at the catalogs, and answering your mother-in-laws questions about me so she could relay the information on to the prospective ladies?
Even Randall, whom I shared a house with in Kherson, told me to be cautious about your agency, but I gave Kherson Rose a chance, along with other agencies in Kherson, and you certainly did not come out on top.
Since we have just had our conversation on the phone, now you know that there is certainly room for improvement in the way Kherson Rose operates.
Until you change for the better, I cannot reccommend Kherson Rose agency as it is.

[Michael B]

... in response to Re: the story unfolds......, posted by europete on Apr 14, 2002

18 through 35?? No children?? Why not though in she has to be a virgin and her mom owns a liquor store and her daddy has a Mercedes dealership?

Man, I'm six years younger than you and 30 is my LOWER limit, with 35-45 perfered, and I'm willing to take one or two pre-teen children (or, as is the case with the 39yo I'm currently involved with, two grown children).

Now, YOU may say that I have no ambition or that I'm not as sure of myself as you are. I perfer to think (and I reckon that most men here will agree) that I'm living with REALITY vs. somebody's FANTISY. 18yo's! Give us a break, you have probably have grandchildren that age. I don't know this agency, but I suspect that they probably couldn't FIND seven 18yo's who wanted to date their grandfather.

[Tim M]

... in response to Re: the story unfolds......, posted by europete on Apr 14, 2002

Randall told you to be cautious? Very interesting, seeing as Randall got married to one of our ladies, Julia, that he was introduced to through us, a schoolmate of my wife's. I guess there's no pleasing some people ;-)

[BrianN]

... in response to Re: the story unfolds......, posted by europete on Apr 14, 2002

God Man, look at your profile.

If you're that intense, you're gonna spend some money at a few brothels.  Get over it.  How much money you spent here on AW that age anyway?

Hell, maybe I should start my own agency for young american chix for suckers like you.

I just don't like wearin them pink hats and drivin them old fat caddies...

[europete]

... in response to Pick on Someone your OWN AGE for a chang..., posted by BrianN on Apr 15, 2002

Never spent a penny in a brothel! Never needed to and have no plans to!