TRIP REPORT PART 3-

[Ryan]

... in response to Philosophical question to everyone, posted by thesearch on Mar 20, 2002

My take is sort of different that yours I feel that cites like Kiev/Odessa get allot more men like us trying to court them etc.  I feel that they just sort of go threw the motions and play the game. (They are hip to all this stuff) They do it because they might either happen upon a guy that will put up with her and cater to their every whim or she might get lucky and she feels a spark and everything ends up good.  I just feel there are more agency in these cities and the women are getting allot of bad impressions or experiences from guys like us that they think it is all a big joke.  They are smart and know how to play the game and it is a great way to pass the time or go out on the town.  Yes this is a generalization but I think it might happen more then we think.

As I agree with your security issue I think it is in a state that we are thinking more about than they are.  I mean I met a very poor family etc. I have to say they were very secure in their life and happy even though they really had no future or a foreseeable one anyway.  

[Oscar]

... in response to Philosophical question to everyone, posted by thesearch on Mar 20, 2002

My thoughts-

I have been to Moscow, Kiev and now Ddnepropetrovsk and Odessa.  I believe that many of the women most men meet are from agencies.  When they are in the high tourist areas, I think that with meeting so many foreign men, some of the girls get pretty spoiled and beging to EXPECT to be spoiled.  There are good girls in Odessa and Kiev, but I didn't happen to meet them as much as I did in Dnepro.  I also ran an ad in Dnepro where I did not in the Odessa and Kiev areas.  Many of the women that write to personal ads are not in agencies and scammers will rarely go to the trouble of answering personal ads.  So for me, the answer is two fold-  The ladies in Dnepro have not been spoiled by many foreign men and the ladies I met there were mostly because of my personal ad and thus, not with agencies that sometimes fill their heads with a lot of crap!  Some of the women men meet from agencies have been in agencies for YEARS and I think it almost always has a very negative effect.  I think these women often become very cynical..

My 2 cents.
Oscar

[Stan B]

... in response to TRIP REPORT PART 3-, posted by Oscar on Mar 20, 2002

You can set-up a photo page @ http://communities.msn.com they have a photo center and you can put quite a few pictures on very easily.
And I totally agree about the 1 woman thing. I knew in less than 5 minutes that we had no chemistry and had no other ladies to meet. But I met 1 anyway when my agency played matchmaker and things have worked out great.
Looking forward to seeing your pic's and the rest of the story...aloha

[Ben26]

... in response to TRIP REPORT PART 3-, posted by Oscar on Mar 20, 2002

I know most of the posters that are still on the board after Patrick's house cleaning are nice people, but there are plenty of people who read these boards who don't post.  Someone tried to infect my computer with a virus because of an association I had with someone on this board and on other boards I have heard of a person finding out who someone is corresponding with and trying to destroy that relationship.  Please don't post her photo or link to it.  Just email it to those you *realy* trust.  BTW, I'm not a paranoid person...if that is what you are thinking...lol.  I'm actually a psychologist as well.  I'm getting my doctorate in School Psychology.
Ben

[Oscar]

... in response to Don't post her picture...some people hav..., posted by Ben26 on Mar 20, 2002

Hey Ben,

I don't know, maybe that's good advice about not posting her photos, I don't know.  But as this girls is not on any sites or agencies, I don't know how they could really affect her, you know?  But I'll think about it..

Thanks,
Oscar

[Rags]

... in response to Re: Don't post her picture...some people..., posted by Oscar on Mar 20, 2002

If you post her picture, I would bet that she does suddenly end up on some websites. Anyone can steal a picture from the web, paste on a fake profile, and start sell an address (any address).

If you do post a pic, make it one of both of you.