Imitation jewelry

[Natalya]

... in response to I agree with you..., posted by Stevo on Mar 13, 2002

Unless gem stone is diamond

[Charles]

... in response to Imitation jewelry, posted by Cinderella on Mar 13, 2002

I agree with the posts below that say that it is the thought that counts.  That being said, to buy imitation jewelry is in most instances very poor taste.  I think a woman would enjoy a teddy bear or some other heartfelt gift far more than a $20 piece of jewelry.  Listen guys, if you want to give jewelry, give the real thing.  When my wife saw her engagement ring she nearly fainted.  Accept no substitutes.

[Ryan]

... in response to Imitation jewelry, posted by Cinderella on Mar 13, 2002

I realize that I have no experience on this subject and to be honest from what I read it is a bad idea to give the fake stuff but you know it seems to me if this was really love that it would not mater what you gave her… But again I live in some fantasyland so don’t listen to me…

[BubbaGump]

... in response to What ever happened to "it is the th..., posted by Ryan on Mar 13, 2002

You didn't believe it did you?

[Quasimoto]

... in response to What ever happened to "it is the th..., posted by Ryan on Mar 13, 2002

perhaps some of the respondents are right, in that perhaps it was nice costume type jewlery. If so, my appologies. But buying a $15 piece of junk at the mall bangles and bobbles shop is not my idea of "thought"!

Steve

[KenC]

... in response to Re: Who says there was any thought!, posted by Quasimoto on Mar 13, 2002

Steve,
Once I sent Lena a little "care package" of odds and ends.  There was nothing of great value in it.  I did include a ceramic pin of an angel made by Hallmark.  She still appreciates the thought behind the gift, 3 years later.
KenC

[Quasimoto]

... in response to Re: Re: Who says there was any thought!, posted by KenC on Mar 13, 2002

I wish I had read this earlier. But I am certain Lena could feel your thoughtfulness. Expense wasn't the issue. But some jewelry could be almost rediculous. Gold, silver, pearls, a nice watch. Those types of things go well with almost anything. No questions asked! But a lot of fake jewelry on the cheap side could be questionable. I don't think it would be that much greater effort to walk 100 feet to a decent jewlery counter and buy something decent. Your angel pin represents more than just jewlery you know. I think that is why you bought it!

Steve

[thesearch]

... in response to What ever happened to "it is the th..., posted by Ryan on Mar 13, 2002

Ryan,  I agree with you that it is the thought that counts.
That is why, to some degree but with exceptions,  it does not mater what you give, but when you start giving fake it is the thought that she is fake and does not deserve real that becomes the subliminal message that you are giving along with the gift --------  if that makes any sense.

So, since it is the thought that counts, a small real jewelry item that you can afford should mean as much as something bigger.

However, the gift size should have some relevance to your income/purchasing power or again you are bringing in the thought that counts in reverse.

IE if a man was poor and took a night job to save money just to buy his lady a special birthday present and it was not super expensive but what he could afford, a real woman would cherish more this more than a big expensive piece given by a rich man who only had to write a check that did not phase his bank account.

However, there are many men (and I am not saying that it is you that is this way) who hide behind the concept of " it is the thought that counts" as a way to avoid buying nice gifts for their lady that they can afford.

And here it still applies -" it is the thought that counts". In this case it is the thought that money for other things than a gift for my lady is more important to the man.

It is the thought that counts. Make your thoughts count with your lady --- not with you.

[greg2]

... in response to Making the thought count for her versus ..., posted by thesearch on Mar 13, 2002

that is the nice thing about being registered at two different computers. You can read your own posts and comment on them all on your own ))

[KenC]

... in response to What ever happened to "it is the th..., posted by Ryan on Mar 13, 2002

Ryan,
You are not living in fantasy land.  You are just being idealistic and there is nothing wrong in that.  Keep your standards high and eventually you will find the right girl.  I agree that it is the thought that counts too.  If all you can afford is imitation than that is what you should give, but never try to pass it off as real.  Personally I would give a less expensive but "real" piece.  If your Russian girlfriend doesn't appreciate a simple gold bracelet for example, this would be a huge red flag in my mind.
KenC (who DOES live in fantasy land)
p.s. (Ryan, I sure do like this new and improved version of Ryan!)

[Oatmeal]

... in response to Imitation jewelry, posted by Cinderella on Mar 13, 2002

Dear Cinderella,

I think this question really depends on the people and situation involved.  

For example:  I spent tons of money on traveling to Eastern Europe and meeting my fiancee.  In fact I was given the ultamatum of returning back to the USA to try to salvage my job or risk losing it to stay with my lady to get to know her better.

I don't mind saying that I decided to stay with my fiancee.  So now I have a job that pays considerably less but I am getting married in about 2 weeks.

eventhough, I am paid much less now, I still managed to travel to Warsaw to go through the K-1 interview with her and escort her home.  

It was all a very expensive and costly experience for me all the way around but I still think I got much more for my sacrifice.  

In any case, since I don't have much spendable money these days my fiancee is more than happy when I present her with any gift no matter how inexpensive or cheap it may seem.  This is really what I love most about her, the fact that she feels any gift I give is from the heart and that is all that truly matters.

Now, if your man had bought you fake jewelry and knowingly tried to pass it off as the real thing then I feel you have some grounds for feeling slighted.

My advice would be to try to see into his heart and find his intent in giving you the gift.  Was it given to try to trick you, or was he just trying to give you a gift from the heart.

If after all that you still feel cheated then I would say terminate the relationship, but personally I never thought much of a person who would turn their nose up at a gift I was giving them.  That is one of the very reasons I left America to find a lady in the FSU.  American women here are too concerned with possesions and not what really matters in life (LOVE!!!!!)

Good luck,  Jim

[Mike]

... in response to Re: Depends on the situation, posted by Oatmeal on Mar 13, 2002

This statement you made is the way I feel too,

" personally I never thought much of a person who would turn their nose up at a gift I was giving them"

but you made a big sacrifice and your lady knows this. as for this statement.

"That is one of the very reasons I left America to find a lady in the FSU. American women here are too concerned with possesions and not what really matters in life (LOVE!!!!!)"

It is your life experiance and your view but is not a true representation or is it fare to lable American women this way. This is a good way to lable the single girls here that no one wants! I know all the girls in my family, and all the girls that are happilly married to my friends don't fall in this catagory, only the girls that are left to pick from here usually qualify for this sterio type. ha ha and that's why they're single!
Mike

[Mike]

... in response to Imitation jewelry, posted by Cinderella on Mar 13, 2002

Cenderella,
some guys are not so smart when it comes to jewlrey or the value it has on a ladies mind. In American culture gifts have less value then the actual thought that he/she is thinking of you. For example, I know many (not all)American ladies that would rather have a gift that came from the heart such as a poem, or flowers he picked growing in the field, compaired to just walking into a store and throw some money down and come out with a gift that required no effort. Myself as a man would value a hand knitted scarf from my wife 10 times more then if she purchased me something expensive to wear, and most girls here are like this as well. From my understanding this is one item that is a culture difference between AW and RW.( I did a small poll on this subject a long time ago )The gift has less value then the thought for us, and the more expensive the more thought it shows to FSU people.
Mike