Simulated diamond ring

[Ryan]

... in response to Actually Ry,  I think KMart will rebound..., posted by tim360z on Jan 31, 2002

Cuts some of the front office fat.  I drive by the headquarters and if you look at the back door area they are all outside smoking.  I work for an architectural firm that had the Kmart contract for a good many years until they started doing most of it in-house.  They would end up stealing our old architects and spec writers, hire them direct.  Believe me they were doing us a favor.  So much old dead weight in Kmart this is exactly what they needed.

[wsbill]

... in response to Front office fat...., posted by Ryan on Jan 31, 2002

They'll be competiting with dollar general and family dollar stores.  Wal-Mart has won that battle.  KM is suppose to come out of BK in 2003 and will probably go out in 2004.  The CVS CEO (if he is still there can do wonders), but some companies are just not capable of return from the dead.

Didn't KM going into BK protection about 2 years ago...?

[KenC]

... in response to Re: KM is dead., posted by wsbill on Feb 1, 2002

Bill,
Chuck Conaway (from CVS) is who put the last nails in the Kmart coffin.  Although he is still CEO, his powers have been cut back sigificantly.  Kmart lost their focus years ago when they opened book, stationary and hardware stores.  Walmart took away their base business and their nich.  Of 2200 stores, they have "maybe" 800 "good ones".  If they survive, and that is a big "if" they will be a chain of 1/3 the size.  Knowing them as well as I do, they will hang on for a few years, but eventually they will fold.
KenC

[Mike]

... in response to Re: KM is dead., posted by wsbill on Feb 1, 2002

Buy stock and sell next year ( wink)
Mike

[KenC]

... in response to Front office fat...., posted by Ryan on Jan 31, 2002

Ryan,
I have done business with Kmart for years and it is salesmen out back trying to settle their nerves.  I knew they were in trouble last year when they screwed me out of $200K.
KenC

[BarryM]

... in response to those are salesmen out back, posted by KenC on Jan 31, 2002

If you use the Ryan logic of stock investing, K-Mart and Enron are bargains. It doesn't matter that there will be no dividends for at least 5 years with both companies.

-blm

[Ryan]

... in response to Simulated diamond ring, posted by Pete on Jan 31, 2002

What did you do cut and paste this from the web site firstdream.com?

[Pete]

... in response to Re: Simulated diamond ring, posted by Ryan on Jan 31, 2002

No, I did not. I am not one who believes in spending a lot of cash on jewelry when it could be spent in much better places. And the simulated diamonds I have seen look really good, and a real diamond does not guarantee a woman will stay with a man any more than a simulated one would.

[Ryan]

... in response to Re: Re: Simulated diamond ring, posted by Pete on Jan 31, 2002

My look at this is that I would go with BerryM idea and do the Gold band thing.  In my opinion it would set a better precedence. (Not showing off your money or lack of in terms of the fake diamond issue)  Don't do it dude it just sounds like a bad idea.

[Charles]

... in response to Simulated diamond ring, posted by Pete on Jan 31, 2002

Pete, I have to differ with you on this one.  If you are going to marry someone, you'd better be prepared to go whole hog.  Would you buy an American girl a cheap ring?  Don't assume that the RW will be happy with something cheap.  You'll be making a big mistake.  When she sees all the girls with the real diamonds in America you will be toast.

[Pete]

... in response to Re: Simulated diamond ring-Big Mistake!, posted by Charles on Jan 31, 2002

Charles, should I find the right girl to marry, I am prepared to "go whole hog" but I tend to spend in other places which in my mind are not superfcial, and to me trinkets and baubles are superficial. All show, no go!
I assure you, last year I was in Ukraine for 5 1/2 months, went to many socials with the 3 major companies and travelled to quite a few places, and during that time I have indeed spent quite a sum so spending cash doesn't bother me, but I want to put in what I think is the right places.
Also, look at some of the diamond rings you see on someones hand, and tell me how you know it is real or not?
And does it really make a difference?

[tim360z]

... in response to Re: Re: Simulated diamond ring-Big Mista..., posted by Pete on Jan 31, 2002

about Diamonds and even less about women.  Bbbbllluuueeelightdotcom for you...Bozo

ps:  My sincere aploogies to the other posters---but the guys a Bozo.

[John K]

... in response to Re: Re: Simulated diamond ring-Big Mista..., posted by Pete on Jan 31, 2002

Diamonds have a different level of light refraction over CZ's or other simular look-alikes.  Most people can't tell the difference, true, but some people's eyes can pick them out.  My eyes are apparently good enough to tell the difference.  I think it's because I am more color observant.

Paste "diamonds" are extremely close to the same color as the original, but the cost of a good paste mockup can be pretty expensive in it's own right.  There was a diamond look-alike that came out years ago that had almost the same refraction index as a diamond, but I haven't seen one, nor heard of it since.  It was interesting to read about, however, because even experienced jewelers were having a hard time telling them from real ones.  They were two or three times the cost of a CZ, so they probably fell through...

[Charles]

... in response to Re: Re: Simulated diamond ring-Big Mista..., posted by Pete on Jan 31, 2002

The smaller diamonds are indeed difficult to tell the difference, but when you get 1ct or more you can tell, particularly if there is some age.

[BarryM]

... in response to Simulated diamond ring, posted by Pete on Jan 31, 2002

It is traditional to exchange simple gold bands without the fancy stones. Give her a gold ring and when she makes the trip and ties the knot, upgrade. Very simple and cost effective.

-blm