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Author Topic: hello from newbie here!  (Read 4607 times)
deatchef
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« on: January 15, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

Hello, my name is John. I'm a single 31 yr old personal chef from Monmouth NJ (shore)
I have been a member of match.com for a few months and a few months back in 99. I've met some AW, but they all seem to be the same. (Reading several posts from 10:pm-12:30 am last night, I think you all know what I mean)
I had always done my searches based on ease- 5-10 miles w/in my zip etc..
well, just for kicks, I started searching easten Europe and oh my goodness!!! I'm hooked now. I just paid $99 to a site that sends me several womens info every tuesday for 3 months.
You have to weed out everyone though. (I'm seeking 21-26 UW, but there are alot of older women as well) (site is hosted by Elena-" Russian Brides Cyber Guide") Didn't find you guys or first dream till it was too late...
I have a feeling i could have done better,but was in the Awe stage when I signed up.
I am corresponding with several ladies (all from match.com) right now. I've even called one and spoke with her on Sunday.
I can't believe i found this forum!!!  I was hoping that I would have someone to talk to and I came across planetlove. I have too many questions to even start, but I'm going to read everyday and hopefully become an integral part of this little community.
I will ask one question to start... I just ordered two books from amazon.com (wedded strangers-Lynn Visson and To Russia for love- Frank Coleman) was that a good idea?
I mean I know very little about the process right now so I thought I'de get some info.
I'd like to thank you in advance for your replies. Also thank you to the Webmaster and anyone else involved in creating this helpfull forum.
John From Jersey Shore
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Michael B
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to hello from newbie here!, posted by deatchef on Jan 15, 2002

I've even called one and spoke with her on Sunday.

I'm interested in Latinas myself, but I read all 3 boards and a couple others also. May I say that IMHO the sentence above that I pasted from your post is the SMARTEST thing you could have done. Maybe she won't be the one, but at least you know she exists (read some of the dishonet agency scam stories in the archuves)...Call her again (make sure you get the same voice, ha ha) and if her mother (sister, etc.) answers the phone and/or she isn't home even better! You can tell a LOT if she is serious by how the "phone answerer" reacts. i.e. "Martha! Come quick! JOHN'S on the phone!" definetaly means she has discussed you with the family....always a good sign. If you have to use a translator (I'm guessing you do) prearange with the translator to stay on with you after the lady is gone and have him/her translate the "background noise" like that as well.  

Anyway, welcome and good luck.

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John K
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to hello from newbie here!, posted by deatchef on Jan 15, 2002

As KenC recommended, so I do too.  Read the Archives.  Start from the beginning and go forward.  Take lots of notes and write down your questions.  As you read through them, you will notice that certain people seem to have consistantly good information.  Pay attention to those people and feel free to make use of their email addresses.  I'm sure most people would be happy to chat with you.

I haven't been around for a while, due to my own newly married life, but the board appears to still have valuable information here that you take and use for your own personal experience.  Just ignore the constant arguments and concentrate on the information.  There is a wealth here that you won't see elsewhere.

I understand there are other active discussions going on at RWL (Russian Wives List?) and elsewhere.  I don't follow them, but some of the other people here can provide the additional URLs to find them.  Read those archives too, if they have them.  We don't have all the ideas here, you know.  Of course some people might think they do... (Grin)

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Charles
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to hello from newbie here!, posted by deatchef on Jan 15, 2002

Welcome John!  I agree with most of the comments below.  Regarding the books, the Wedded Strangers is a good introductory book about Russian-American marriages, but there's a lot of generalizations in there that may not be applicable to a specific situation, just like a lot of commentary you will hear on this board.  Actually, the site you visited - Elena's - is one of the better agency sites with some good practical advice.  However, rather than ordering books, you are well advised to scan the archives and learn more than you ever wanted to know.
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thesearch
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to hello from newbie here!, posted by deatchef on Jan 15, 2002

That is what it is all about - helping each other to making it all a success.

First you take more than you give as a Newbie and then as a veteran you give back more than you need.

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deatchef
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Welcome, posted by thesearch on Jan 15, 2002

Thanks "the search". I do hope to be a veteran one day.
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KenC
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to hello from newbie here!, posted by deatchef on Jan 15, 2002

John,
Brew a pot of coffee and read the archives.  There is a wealth of information to be found there.  Just about everything you need to know about finding, romancing and marrying a RW.  Pay close attention to the trip reports.  You can find out how to and how NOT to take a trip to Russia.  There are many INFORMED posters here and a few dip sh!ts that THINK they know.  Dan's posts regarding anything to do with visas and such are golden.  If you ignore the bickering and scammer paranoia you can learn everything you need here.  Just remember that the best lessons are learned in Russia!  Best of luck.
KenC
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BarryM
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to hello from newbie here!, posted by deatchef on Jan 15, 2002

you are looking for a Russian bride:

Bachelors begin to lose upper hand
Biological clock starts ticking for bachelors looking for mates
By Nancy Anne Jeffrey
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

Dec. 8 - Adam Rosen has a law degree from Villanova and trained in psychology at Harvard. He's also handsome and has a passion for social causes. But there's one thing the 37-year-old bachelor doesn't have in his life: candidates to be Mrs. Rosen.

'I thought I'd be married by 30. This is a great divergence from what I imagined my life would be.'
- ADAM ROSEN
Boston therapist

There's a new biological clock out there - the one ticking inside bachelors. After decades in which men statistically had the upper hand in the dating world, the demographics have reversed: For a big chunk of the dating pool - people ages 30 to 44 - the number of single men and women are now about even, or in some cases, slightly tipped in women's favor. The odds are especially dismal for men looking for younger mates: By 2010, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, men in their late 30s and early 40s will outnumber women five to 10 years younger by two to one.
What's happening here is a subtle but significant change in the birth rate. While the numbers of men and women born every year are roughly the same, the overall birthrate dropped 40% from 1955 to 1973. Because more than half of all men marry younger women, that means their pool of prospects shrinks a bit every year. "The tables have turned," says Sherry Cooper, an economist who has written about demographic shifts. "Guys in that 35-year-old range are going to have a harder time."

Matchmakers and dating companies are already seeing the impact. Social Circles, a New York singles group, has seen membership among 35-to 44-year old men soar 25-fold since it started in 1997, while women in the same age group grew at about half that rate. At It's Just Lunch, which pairs professionals, the percentage of female membership dropped 9% in the last three years. And online firm Match.com is so anxious to recruit women, it started a new ad campaign to find more. The pitch: Women no longer have to rely on "fate" or "destiny" to find the right mate.

"We're all chasing after the same women," says Jim Hague, a 33-year-old Web designer from California who says he got only a handful of daily e-mails from some online services. His female friends, however, got 200 e-mails a day. "They can easily delete you," Mr. Hague says. Indeed, 40-year-old Suzanne Mulroy got so many e-mails from her service that she put it on hold. "I thought I'd get a response," Ms. Mulroy says, "but I didn't think I was going to get this deluge."
All of which, of course, is a significant shift from the 1980s; at the start of that decade, for example, there were about 1.3 women for every eligible man from 35 to 44. The odds were even better for the narrower group of men in their late 30s dating women in their early 30s: Almost two women for every single man. Many people still remember the 1986 Newsweek article that famously, if controversially, declared that a single, college-educated, 40-year-old woman had a better chance of being killed by a terrorist than of ever tying the knot.

THE ONE-TIME SUPERMALE

But in the years since, the odds have gotten worse for the one-time supermale. Far from an abundance of bachelorettes, today there's a small shortage - for every million thirtysomething women, there is a surplus of 80,000 men of the same age. Men looking for younger women will find even more competition: Within nine years, there will be one woman 30 to 34 for every two men 35 to 44, according to one set of projections by the U.S. Census.
How did this shift occur? For starters, with more women than men on the dating scene, men played the field and postponed marriage - sometimes until their 40s, much later than previous generations. (The percentage of 35- to 44-year-old bachelors almost tripled from 1980 to 2000, according to the U.S. Census Bureau's Current Population Surveys.) Thinking they had tons of options, especially as divorce rates grew, some men got pickier, too, demanding not only good looks but also good jobs from their mates. That narrowed the field even more: By one estimate, men in their early 30s making $75,000 or more outnumber women of the same earning power two to one.

All the while, pop culture only perpetuated the belief that men had the advantage, with shows like "Sex and the City" and novels like "Bridget Jones's Diary" harping on themes of the desperate, single woman. And lots of people still believe it. "Men feel they have the upper hand," says Lisa Doherty, a 40-year-old public-relations executive. When she's gone on dates, Ms. Doherty says men have told her they want a younger woman.
But slowly, evidence of the shift is cropping up. Take personal ads, the quintessential dating device of the '80s and '90s. While the ratio of men to women placing ads varies from city to city, many towns are seeing notable jumps in male advertisers. At Chicago Magazine, for example, the percent of personals placed by women skidded 38% in just two years. During the past three years, the percentage of men placing personal ads in the Cleveland Plain Dealer jumped 14%, according to People2People Group, a firm that creates personals.
Other men are going where experts say they need to - older women. When Match.com polled its members earlier this year, the company discovered that its average male client is now willing to date a woman three years his senior, up from two a few years ago. At It's Just Lunch, men 35 to 43 are now asking to date women 36 to 40 - up about four years from a decade ago.

THE DATING CONSULTANT
Things have gotten so bad for 46-year-old Drew Clausen in Marina del Rey, Calif., he has started using a "dating consultant" who specializes in training unattached men on how to attract a woman. For $600, Mr. Clausen's consultant advised him to wear a Rolex watch, buy black shoes and not talk about his divorce. The investment is paying off. Instead of just pining after his ideal - a 35-year-old brunette - Mr. Clausen just hooked up with a "gorgeous" 43-year-old redhead. Using the consultant made him "more open to other possibilities," he says.

Indeed, once either shy or scornful about blind dates, males are becoming more aggressive about asking to be set up, matchmakers say. They also have become much more open about the fact that they use dating services. A study by It's Just Lunch shows that eight years ago, the average male client kept his membership a secret from his male friends; today, the typical male customer tells three of his friends.
So when will things get better for members of the lonely hearts men's club? Not until the generation born in the late 1970s and early 1980s comes of marriageable age, according to demographers. By then, higher birthrates will tip the scales back in men's favor. About 2005, experts say it'll be rich pickings for men who now are in their early 20s.
Until then, men will just have to keep going, much like New Yorker Eric Starkman, who swore to friends he would be married by 40. Now, at 46, the bachelor spends Sunday mornings at Starbucks, sipping a grande black coffee and scanning the marriage announcements. "I always feel good when I see a guy who is 46 getting married," he says. "I say, 'Hey, there's hope.' "

Copyright (c) 2001 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.

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thesearch
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Here is reason why..., posted by BarryM on Jan 15, 2002

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hockeybrain
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Thanks Barry for posting this n/t, posted by thesearch on Jan 15, 2002

Very interesting reading.  I hope the demographics do not change in the FSU.  What are the demographics anyway.  My general observations were that there were many more single women in Russia and that in Ukraine the ratio is about even.
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