My Horrible Russian Experience

[Stevo]

... in response to Looks like we're being attacked by RWNA ..., posted by BarryM on Dec 14, 2001

No one is "attacking" anyone except you.  A guy tells a story, and true or not, it is NOT some kind of attack.  Leave that poor guy Neff alone, you seem to have some kind of vendetta against him.  Are all Orthodox Christians paranoid like you?   Give it a rest!

[BarryM]

... in response to From a famous movie..."What is your..., posted by Stevo on Dec 14, 2001

The movie line was "What is your malfunction, Private Pyle?!"...the words uttered by the drill sargeant played by R. Lee Ermy to "Private Pyle" played by Vincent D'Onofrio in Stanley Kubricks "Full Metal Jacket".

Just a correction.

-blm

[Bob S.]

... in response to From a famous movie..."What is your..., posted by Stevo on Dec 14, 2001

For those new here, BarryM and Shane Neff have a long-standing feud.

The story goes:
Shane was married to a RW, and eventually things took a turn south.  Shane said he tried to go to the local Russian Orthodox Church for marriage counseling, but instead the parrish priest further split them apart, advising his wife to file false Domestic Violence charges or something and dumping him.  Whether this is true or not, I don't know; I wasn't there.  Suffice it to say that now Shane has all the love for the Orthodox Church that a person who was molested by a priest in his youth might have for religion and God in general: not very much.

Barry, if memory serves me, converted to the Orthodox faith as a way to grow closer to his own Russian wife.  He found it to be spiritually satisfying and supportive.  So naturally he has all the religious fervor of a recent convert.

In each case, you have people shaped by their diametrically opposed experiences.  And think, who are the most annoying and preachy non-smokers?  Ex-smokers, of course.

Now, Shane avoids this board, and Barry avoids the RWNA-TT board.  If you don't see both, you only get one side of the fight.  So it appears that Barry has declared Jihad against anything that hints of Shane and his board.  And whenever anyone comes on and hints that all RW are less than perfect saints, he is quick to load up his plane with C-4 and drive it into their building.  Is he a whack job or a Defender of the Faith?  Personally, I think he's just a nice guy trying to practice a little old fashioned Chivalry and defend his lady's honor.

As for the original post, IMNSHO, Jeff is correct.  Not only did this guy breeze past some obvious red flags (an easy mistake we can all make since red flags are just "caution warnings" after all), but he blew right thru some barricades in his eagerness to: a. end his loneliness;  b. play out a fantasy role as a Knight in Shining Armor rescuing a fair damsel.  He may find a more sympathetic ear among the RWNA group, but I suspect even they will call him up short on some obvious blunders to avoid should he decide to be part of the RWTT set.

[doctahd]

... in response to WWF Smackdown presents: Barry vs. Shane!, posted by Bob S. on Dec 14, 2001

I don't know what IMNSHO means, but I'm the guy who did the original post, and you are absolutely correct in your summation of me.

In my defense, I never spotted any support groups when I began my Russian quest back in 1998. Either they weren't there or I was insufficiently adept at hunting them down. (I believe Google was not available then.)

Although it sounds like it may be a choir singing songs of death and immolation in the fires of Heck to those who already know the awful truth about their fate, I'd like to take my chances with the RWNA group. (Which stands for "Russian Women... N?....A?...?) Where do I find it?

To those who have found happiness with their Russian brides, I am very happy for you and happy that you have affirmed my faith that good things possibly could have come out of my marriage to a Russian woman. The RIGHT Russian woman.

[Jeff S]

... in response to Re: WWF Smackdown presents: Barry vs. Sh..., posted by doctahd on Dec 15, 2001


IMNSHO = In my not so humble opinion
RWNA = Russian women - Never again

As others have said, your story sounds quite a bit like a (what we take to be fictional) account that members of feminist groups like to come here, pretend they're distraught American men, and post every week or so, then after generating lots of comment, come back with "you're all a bunch of losers" conclusion. Sorry to hear your story and best of luck to you. If you search the archives for RWNA, I'm sure you'll come across the website address.

-- Jeff S.

[doctahd]

... in response to Re: Re: WWF Smackdown presents: Barry vs..., posted by Jeff S on Dec 15, 2001

Thanks, Jeff,

It's good to see there's at least one human being who uses this board.

I swear on a stack of bibles and Boy Scout manuals my story is true. I don't know why feminists would come in with bogus stories. According to an article I read tonight, there are now more single men in the 35-45 age group than women in the 30-40 age group in the U.S., so the women shouldn't have any gripes about guys searching for Russian brides. In Russia, the ratio greatly disadvantages single women.

Well, I can tell when I'm not wanted and that there are a goodly number of A holes using this site (I'll bet Barry is really a scrawny wimp with an inferiority complex who hides behind the anonymity of this page to flame anyone who gets in his sights.)

But, again, thanks Jeff for being different than these other guys.

I won't be back again.

[BarryM]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: WWF Smackdown presents: Barr..., posted by doctahd on Dec 16, 2001

You were stupid enough to post here before you understood what this board stood for and, by the way, I think you're lying to us. Your story sounds like a broken record from the usual feminazis and RWNA trolls that spew their garbage here.

Jeff, by the way, is interested in Asians. Going by his profile, he is kind of out of place here.

As far as an inferiority complex goes, the fact is that no one achieves superiority by flaming the likes of you, but someone has to shotgun the vermin and clear up the bullsh!t that the likes of you post here. My humble role in this makes the sincere posters look good on here.

-blm

[Richard]

... in response to Hey jerk off, get lost., posted by BarryM on Dec 16, 2001

Hey, Barry, I think that you should learn to be more tolerant of other people.  I would like to remind you that, as Jack recently pointed out, we have some real life members, (Jeff from Pennsylvania) and King Dande for example, whose stories had all the marks of troll posts.  However, they proved not to be trolls.  

I would like to suggest that you give the good Doctah a chance.  If you are right,  he will hang himself.  On the other hand, he may prove to be an upright member of our community her.

Welcome aboard DoctahD!

[BarryM]

... in response to WWF Smackdown presents: Barry vs. Shane!, posted by Bob S. on Dec 14, 2001

I have seen Shane's "My Story" propagated all over the internet since 1999. He hit most of the Internet dating sites a long time ago... dating sites for AW/AM by regions. I saw one of the first incarnations of the "Story" on Matchmaker.com I think in late 1999 or early 2000. That was long before I even considered pursuing RW/UW.

If anyone is fanatical about his cause, it is Shane. That bigoted nutcase is relentless in his denigration of international dating of RW/UW and the Orthodox Church. He also is urging his followers to lobby Congress to shut down the MOB business and restrict k-1's for RW/UW. His motivations are ego and power rather than some altruistic sympathy for us "victims" of greedy RW/UW and agency owners.

I did not actively flame him until he rudely intruded on here and RWA. I did not accuse him of lying until I saw contradictory posts by him on other boards around 1999-2000. His accusations against the Orthodox Church are false and reflect his personal bias against us.

I only started my tirades against him around spring of this year. There was no one else objecting to his false statements and he seemed to convince everyone on here. I stood alone against his evil and he showed his true colors on here.

There still exists on several board's archives some of his past posts that reflect a much more contradictory "Shane" than most PL members have seen. Occationally, an internet search on "Shane Neff" will show some of them. Find out for yourself. Most of the incriminating stuff is now vapor unfortunately.

-blm

[Richard]

... in response to WWF Smackdown presents: Barry vs. Shane!, posted by Bob S. on Dec 14, 2001

I think that's a good explanation of why Barry acts the way he does.  Makes me feel as if I've been a little rough on him. {grin}

[mdante99]

... in response to WWF Smackdown presents: Barry vs. Shane!, posted by Bob S. on Dec 14, 2001

Thanks Bob; I think we can ask every one to calm down.

Mark

[Dan]

... in response to From a famous movie..."What is your..., posted by Stevo on Dec 14, 2001

Your comment regarding Orthodox Christianity - or faith of any kind - was a shot below the belt.

As for Shane Neff - he has well-earned any "vendetta" that anyone chooses to launch against him and his board of whiny-boys. Neff's vitriolic attacks against this very board Stevo - and the persons, such as yourself, who post here - are well documented in the archives.

Yes, Barry can be a bit harsh in his responses - and yes *MAYBE* this new poster is merely relating an honest and sincere story. Then again . . . .

- Dan

[Dan]

... in response to My Horrible Russian Experience, posted by doctahd on Dec 14, 2001

Why does your profile say you were married since 1998, but you indicate in your story you were married in September one year ago (if my date calcs are correct, that would put it at September 2000)??

Have you visited this board previously, or is this your first time here?

LOTS of other questions, but let's just start here.

- Dan

[doctahd]

... in response to Uhhh - Not That I Don't Believe You, But..., posted by Dan on Dec 14, 2001

I just checked my profile. The question asks "When did you first develop a curiosity...etc.? I first developed a curiosity in 1998, as stated.

[doctahd]

... in response to Uhhh - Not That I Don't Believe You, But..., posted by Dan on Dec 14, 2001

I don't know why my profile says I was married in 1998. That's when I first made contact with the little woman on the Web. Perhaps I was up too late when I wrote that. Yeah, that must be it, because I don't even recall writing a profile.

The lateness of the hour might also explain why I posted a message the first time I found the forum. I'd just gotten out of jail and I desperately wanted to find out how I could stop the damage to my life. I'm beginning to get the point that I can't stop it as long as she wants to continue doing damage.