Still looking for flat in Odessa-

[Oscar]

Going to Odessa in February and need a decent flat..  If anyone has a good line on one, I would appreciate any info..  
Stayed in Kiev in an excellent flat for $20 per night but am told the cheapest in Odessa (which should be cheaper than Kiev) is $40-50 per night!

Thanks for any info,
Oscar

[Oatmeal]

... in response to Still looking for flat in Odessa-, posted by Oscar on Dec 3, 2001

I stayed in a flat in Odessa for about 2 weeks.  I thought the flat in Odessa was not quite as nice as my flat in Kiev but I did not require much.  I just needed a place to put my head.

The flat I used was arranged by Jack from First Dream.
I would suggest that you talk to Jack and I am quite sure he can fix you up.  If you don't like the flat they have arranged then they can show you other flats.

I am not sure what you expect in terms of luxury but the price range was close to what I paid.  I paid $50 per night but again that was in the summer and I am not sure if the rate would be any cheaper in the winter.

If you like you can e-mail me at JLBeckett55@hotmail.com if you have any questions regarding my stay in Odessa or contact Jack.

Good Luck.  Jim

[Dan]

... in response to Still looking for flat in Odessa-, posted by Oscar on Dec 3, 2001

I cannot help you either Oscar, except perhaps to add perspective. My experience with Odesa (and Kyiv) suggests that:

* Yes, under normal circumstances one should be able to find a flat to rent that is cheaper than Kyiv.
* I do not know where you stayed in Kyiv or how you found an "excellent flat for $20 per night" - but I might suggest you were either very lucky, or your standards are far different than mine - and many people with whom I travel and am acquainted. I have never paid less than $40 per night in Kyiv (more than a dozen trips in the past 5 years - and more than a year's worth of collective nights spent in Ukraine), but then I always insist on a flat with certain amenities (such as independent hot water boiler and washer/dryer, etc) AND I always insist on a flat within a block or two of Kreschatyk.
* While you seem to be upset with the $40 per night in Odesa - your other option is a hotel - and I know from personal experience that you will pay substantially more than $100 per night in Odesa. Krasnaya is one of the more affordable hotels in Odesa - and it is substantially more than $100 per night. Londonskaya is out of sight insofar as pricing. I believe Chornye More may be a little less - but still more than $100 per night.
* Finally, you also seem to be growing a bit out-of-shape over not receiving a helpful reply. You might want to consider that you have outlined a pretty narrow range of options in your request for people to respond back to you. Seems a bit silly for you to say you are growing tired of helping others and yet not receiving a reply to your request. Maybe people simply do not have a decent reply to your narrowly-defined question.

- Dan

[DR]

... in response to Unfortunately . . ., posted by Dan on Dec 4, 2001

Dan,

How's your son's tennis game coming along?  Is he improving?  Just wondering.  I thought to play tennis today when I remembered our discussions on this topic some time ago.  Anyway, I hope everything is going well in your neck of the woods.

Cheers...
D.R.

[Dan]

... in response to Q for Dan...an aside, posted by DR on Dec 4, 2001

Nationally - which isn't too bad considering he is only 10 years old. About a month ago he was selected to Team Colorado - the 8 best 12-and-under player's in the state - and Greg Patton was working with him this past weekend. Greg has coached most of the greats like Courier, Chang and Sampras - and he was full of praise for Christopher's game.

We'll see - it's certainly a marathon and not a sprint - and we're only just beginning - so we'll just have to see where things go in the future.

Thanks for thinking of us DR. I'll keep you posted about the progress.

- Dan

[Jack]

... in response to DR - He's Ranked About 600 in the 12's ...., posted by Dan on Dec 4, 2001

Rumor has it Nike is considering offer him 2.5 for future endorsements!

[LTB]

... in response to Still looking for flat in Odessa-, posted by Oscar on Dec 3, 2001

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[Oscar]

... in response to Can you pass on the Kiev connection? n/t, posted by LTB on Dec 4, 2001

I've passed on the "Kiev" connection about 10 times from the last time I asked for any help on Odessa a couple of weeks ago!  I am getting tired of helping everyone else, yet nobody has given me one bit of help on Odessa!  If you want to go back about 2 weeks, you will find the info..

[ron]

... in response to Re: Can you pass on the Kiev connection?..., posted by Oscar on Dec 4, 2001

you want to get a good flat in odessa for less than $40, good luck oscar!