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Author Topic: Tips from the Russian Guys  (Read 6535 times)
Zink
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« on: November 06, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

I had the oportunity on this trip to visit with quite a few Russian men. Of course some of them wanted to talk about women with me. This a compilation of the best of what I heard from these guys and girls. Now keep in mind some of these seem to contradict each other at first. Life is full of contradictions.

Your lady is number 1. She is the most important thing. Without her you are nothing. When you are with her your focus should be entirely on her. Don't be chasing every woman you see if you already have one. Be prepared to defend her with your life even if she is wrong. You can sort out what is right and wrong later in private. In public you and your lady are one entity.

Never insult a woman. To do so only proves you are a small man. If you can not get along with your lady, find a new one. Russia has many beautiful women. Don't complain and condemn her. Just move on and find what you want. The people in Volgograd thought that guys on the RWNA-RWTT group were the worst kind of men. And I met girls who actually met a couple of the guys who post there. The divorced guys I met had no obvious bitterness towards their ex's. Most of them had nice new wives.

The world is round. I really like this one myself. What you do in Russia can come back to haunt you. Some guys think that once they leave Russia everything they did stays in Russia. Not! Many people there have an incredible network of friends and aquaintances around the world. If you trash a lady's reputation or hurt her you may find yourself on an unwritten blacklist amongst the ladies in that city or a larger area. The agencies will still take your money but many of the better ladies will not be interested in you.

Be prepared to back up all of your words with actions. Russians do not respect someone "who is like a small dog that only barks." Threats and bravado aren't big over there. If your going to do something, don't talk about it, do it! Russia is not a good country for the timid. They respect strength and action. You don't need to be agressive but don't let anyone push you around.

I hope this helps somebody. I like Russia and the Russian people. But Russia is a very intimidating country until you learn how to handle yourself there. It is possible to find what you want there but you must be prepared to work for it. Endurance and perserverance are ingrained into the Russian soul. They don't like whiners and quitters. To quit in Russia is to die.

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BubbaGump
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Tips from the Russian Guys, posted by Zink on Nov 6, 2001

A lot of the girls are listed through the same agency in some of these cities and know each other.  You may be badmouthing a girl to another girl that knows her.  

Always watch what you say about others so you won't have to apologize later and you'll make a better impression.  If you didn't like her just say you weren't compatible.

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Zink
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Especially watch what you say about the ..., posted by BubbaGump on Nov 6, 2001

I never write to two ladies from the same agency at the same time. Even if the agency doesn't let other clients read your letters the girls will gossip. They do share stories good and bad about the men who write to them. I read about a guy who actually wrote to two best friends with identical form letters. Needless to say he lost his chance with both of them. I'm not a fan of form letters.

And to quote Thumper's mother(from the movie Bambi)- if you can't say something good don't say anything at all. How's that for a highly educated quote?

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yoe
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Tips from the Russian Guys, posted by Zink on Nov 6, 2001

I have been saying this all along and I do believe it. I think that most people who haev all this negative crap to spew are not ready for the ride. If some of these 'big shot' go try some of there macho crap in the FSU they may not feel so macho in the morning. The one thing I respect about my wife is that it is not a detriment to be a MAN and she enjoys being a woman....................with her MAN.
Peace
Joe
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Go2Rus
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Tips from the Russian Guys, posted by Zink on Nov 6, 2001

Your first and second sentence mentioned conversations with RM.  But then your third sentence mentions the compilation is from these 'guys and girls.'  In some cases, it would not make any difference if the comments were from guys or girls, but in other cases it would make a difference.  So could you clarify please.
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Zink
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Interesting stuff Zink.  I do have one c..., posted by Go2Rus on Nov 6, 2001

The woman is #1 was from the men. Three different times in two different cities I got speaches similar to this from older guys.

The never insult women was from the men. If you want a nice fight just make a rude comment about women in front of some Russian guys. The one day me and a Russian guy were waiting for my lady. She was late again and he started to grumble. I told him jokingly that was normal for women. He glanced around nervously to make sure nobody heard me. Then he leaned in and gave me a quick lecture about how to treat the women. And then there was the incident I already wrote about the mongol artist. He almost got badly hurt because he insulted my lady. And not a single one of those guys knew who my lady or I were. They would have done it for any woman.

The world is round was a warning told to me by the ladies. It closely ties into the don't give insults as well. Another thing is some of these ladies are tough enough to hurt a guy badly on their own. They want a man to protect them but they don't really need it.

The barking dog paragraph was told to me by both men and women. The actual quote was from my lady but I heard similar things several different times.

Hope this clarifies it for you. Yes, I understand that it would be self serving for the ladies to give me lectures about absolute obedience to them. But the truth is the women all told me the man must be the boss. This is a lot more difficult in practice than in theory. They say they want to be told what to do, but just try and make them do it!

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BubbaGump
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Interesting stuff Zink.  I do have o..., posted by Zink on Nov 6, 2001

Since the world is round, next time go to another town until you run out.
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Go2Rus
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Interesting stuff Zink.  I do have o..., posted by Zink on Nov 6, 2001

that women want men to lead but then won't let them.  In may case it was with 40 something women who had been on their own for many years or perhaps their entire adult life.  In e-mail they talked about how they were tired of that life and wanted a man to lean on, to lead them, etc.  But when actually together, some really tried to order me around.  They just could not break old habits.

Others however, did let me lead and some too much. e.g. they wanted me to tell them what they should order at restaurant, etc.  So just like with everything, there are huge differences between them.

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BrianN
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Thanks for clarifying; I had similar exp..., posted by Go2Rus on Nov 6, 2001

the ones that want you to "lead", is kind of a misnomer anyway.... it's that they want you to THINK you're the one leading.  Once you're trained, then you're done!

Lol.... (That was actually from a rw post a couple of months ago here).

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mdante99
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Tips from the Russian Guys, posted by Zink on Nov 6, 2001

Things to remember.

Mark

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