Beware!!

[pat]

I know that people here don't really like RWNA(by the way it's not sooo negative, since now it's also RWTT(take two)) but i thought this can be useful "information"(moreover with all those trolls..)
here we go:

We lost a member of our group yesterday.  The circumstances
surrounding the situation are, quite frankly, sickening.

He posted enough information in his trip reports and follow-on posts
about his lady to allow her to be tracked.  A "person", using the
information contained in the members posts contacted the lady by
phone at her work and identified himself as a close friend of the
group member.  He claimed to have an urgent message for her from the
group member - "a matter of life and death".  The lady reluctantly
gave him her e-mail address.

Then, this internet wh ack job sent her copies of his post on this
list to her e-mail address.  This included his trip report and the
following discussions.  Needless to say these revalations have caused
him some serious repercussions.

We know this idiot used a hotmail account and we have his original e-
mail message to her with open headers.  My detectives are busy
tracking down this ass h*le.  We have OUR OWN suspicions who this
wha ck job is, but we will wait and find out what the sleuths uncover.

WORD  OF  CAUTION !!!

If you are telling a story, it may be wise to use a "nom de plume"
instead of your real identity.  There are some serioiusly sick
bastards out there who take great pride in screwing around with
people via the internet.

At the very least, use psudonems when discussing ladies names and
locations.

Share, but share with caution.  When we discover the identity of this
psychopathic misc reant, he will pay in hell for his actions.

Govern yourself accordingly.

Shane Neff
Brad Sharp

Moderators
RWNA-TT

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Beware!!, posted by pat on Oct 26, 2001

The head guy at EC told me that he had this guy from Texas bring a girl from the Ukraine to the USA.  He told her that he was successful and had a nice house.  He really lived in a trailer park and had serious problems.  Anyway, the girl returned to the Ukraine within 3 months and didn't marry him.  The guy in Texas complained to EC and told them to ban the girl from the socials so she wouldn't scam any more men as he put it.  He also made threatening calls and wrote lots of nasty letters.  So the head of EC ended up meeting the girl at a Ukrainian social and thought she was really nice.

[BrianN]

... in response to Beware!!, posted by pat on Oct 26, 2001

This SHANE FAG is a LOSER!  SCREW HIM!

Everybody makes a big deal of some idiot blasting RW fanatics by the name of Shane... Christ, has anyone checked out the local jails for wife beaters lateley?  How does ONE IDIOT GET SUCH A CLAIM TO FAME?

This guy is obviously such an extreme loser that he's got an almost "fearful" following of people giving him air time on various boards... including this one.  This pos would fail in deciding what flavor of bubble gum to chew!

I've been around long enough to know better, but the misguided behavior and constant mention of this loser does nothing but further HIS cause.  In every stinking bar and church you'll find at least one of him with a "woman" axe to grind...  guaranteed.

The less air time this loser "Shane" (make that "shame") gets, the less he will have the opportunity to negatively influence other well meaning and reasonably intelligent people that are serious, and would be smart enough to recognize their own mistakes instead of airing their own dirty laundry in public! These LOSERS ALWAYS blame all of their own faults on SOMEBODY ELSE!

He can't get one here, and he can't get one their either.  He's a lazy pos failure, and that's where he'll remain with an attitude like that.

And by the way, if you're an "ORTHODOX" Christian, does that mean you get to wear some kind of special baseball cap on your head, have a small nose, wear horn rimmed glasses, and eat cabbage thursdays? Why are lines being drawn?  And who cares whether one is orthodox or not?  

These are foolish diatribes that do nothing but breed hate and discontent among good people.  

Gimme a friggin BREAK!!  Shane is just another LOSER!

End of story.

AN "ORTHODOX" RW LOVER.

[BarryM]

... in response to Re: This is so much BS!, posted by BrianN on Oct 27, 2001

Shane has done such a good job promoting Shane over the last 2 years that is has come down to this.

Because of what Shane has done with his "story", every time he, RWNA, and his "story" are promoted, I feel it necessary to label him and his organization for what they are, hate and bigotry. I don't like having to do it, but it's for good reasons that it's done.

He goes unchallenged too often.

Orthodox fast days are Wednesdays and Fridays BTW. Cabbage would be appropriate on those days.

-blm

[BarryM]

... in response to Beware!!, posted by pat on Oct 26, 2001

Shane will probably blame some Orthodox Christian for the incident. After all, he considers us Orthodox Christians to be the cause of all problems in the world. He stated as much in some of his posts here in the past.

-blm

[rojak]

... in response to Beware!!, posted by pat on Oct 26, 2001

For the benefit of some of us who may not be as savvy as others, what is "RWNA?"

[BarryM]

... in response to Re: Beware!!, posted by rojak on Oct 26, 2001

RussianWomanNeverAgain was started by Shane Neff earlier this year. Most people here have seen the extremely bigoted "Shane Story" since he has been obsessively posting it for 2 years now. RWNA started as a collective of men who have had bad experiences with MOB's. It has turned into a cult with fanatical followers centered around the hate of Russians, Ukrainians, and Orthodox Christians. Shane's operatives occasionally spam propaganda here and other boards to recruit members.

I have researched many of Shanes posts on many boards for over a year and he is inconsistent in his explainations of his "story". His story is full of falsities and outright lies and he has visciously attacked my religious beliefs.

That's the reason a put up such a fuss whenever someone posts his crap on here.

-blm

[Tom H]

... in response to RWNA is a hate group, posted by BarryM on Oct 26, 2001

Barry
Shane N only posted that story 6 months ago (not 2 years as you posted). I was a member and I do not recall anyone attacking Orthodox Christians. Some were angry with their ex-rws and uw but they usually got over it in time.
Why the lies and half truths? BTW I have reconcilled with my rw so don't start calling me a hate monger.
tom

[BarryM]

... in response to Re: RWNA is a hate group, posted by Tom H on Oct 26, 2001

Shane's "story" started popping up on the internet around this time in 1999. I noticed it because it appeared on several singles and dating boards and I was dating AW at that time. It did not have the refinement and detail that the current "story" does, but it definately is same story.

Shane is a viscious wolf in sheeps clothing. I have been following some of his posts on many singles boards since summer 2000. Most of the time, his posts are friendly and benign, mainly because he is successful in persuading people to his cause, but he has attacked visciously some of those who do disagree with him and who challenge him. He especially hate Orthodox Christians and he has been especially nasty to them. Shane has been banned from several boards for causing trouble. Much of his antics have been consigned to the internet graveyard of deletion but there are still a few of his posts remaining on boards.

Shane's "story" is a false indictment of the second largest Christian denomination in the world and it slurs Ukrainians and Russians as well. For over a year now, Shane has been asked to prove the validity of his "story" by many individuals and he has either flatly refused or evaded the issue. I personally think he included the accusations of the Orthodox Priest and Church to creatively embellish his story with an aire of conspiracy against him. Anyone who is familiar with the Orthodox Church knows that his accusations would create quite a scandal and such behavior by the clergy would be strongly dealt with. Such a situation in his "story" is highly implausable.

I've seen enough of Shane's prolific presence on the internet to get a good impression of his deceptive personality. It was just last May when he encouraged his RWNA followers to come here and attack this forum. This has been a pattern of his on many singles boards. Some of them, he has dominated because no one challenged him, on others he has been beaten back by those who have the sense to know what he is all about.

RWNA seems to be his big push this year. I'm surprised he hasn't started advertising electronic gadgets for "auditing" to "clear" his followers of their RW/UW issues. His followers are fanatic zealots. If you've seen some of their propaganda on other boards, you'd agree. Shane has a huge ego. If he ever gets around to writing some more of his RW/UW hate fiction, he could be another L Ron.

I'm glad to hear that you are resolving your issues with your wife. I don't consider all of the RWNA participants to be fanatical hate mongers, but as a participant there yourself, you have seen it. The RWNA political activism is what alarms me the most. There may need to be some discussion on getting RWNA listed as a federally recognized hate group in order to neutralize the lobby effort by its members.

Good luck with your RW.

-blm

[Tom H]

... in response to It goes back 2 years., posted by BarryM on Oct 27, 2001

Barry
It isn't that bad of a list. It is more of a place to "blow off steam". I made some nasty posts myself but I eventually calmed .Some of the issues discussed were very important in the pursuit of an rw. Some posts were good and some posts were bad. All information concerning MOBs is good. You must know what you are getting into.
tom

[pat]

... in response to Re: It goes back 2 years., posted by Tom H on Oct 27, 2001

Yeah this list is not so bad...A few people are really against RW, but just a few...
Some other peope seem to be interested in sex only(why not after all??I mean as long as you go on a sex tour without writing before to women on agencies website)
And other just normal....Personnally i find that the denomination of hate group is a bit close minded, even if SOMETIMES it is true(and again only for a few individuals), there is still plenty of useful informartion there wether you want it or not...

[ron]

... in response to RWNA is a hate group, posted by BarryM on Oct 26, 2001

my take on the group, or at least shane and brad, is that they went into this blindly, got there butts scammed and now blame it on russian women.

i blame it on their stupidity

[Bueller]

... in response to Re: RWNA is a hate group, posted by ron on Oct 26, 2001

I do too, at least from reading Shane's story. Naiveté, anyway. Assuming his story is true, he blew through a number of stop signs on his way to disaster. Read boards like this, do some basic homework, don't make excuses for bad behavior, then roll the dice. Or go back to the delights of AW.

[BrianN]

... in response to Re: Re: RWNA is a hate group, posted by Bueller on Oct 28, 2001

friggin bozos.  No guts, no glory.  Lose your ass (and your emotional "shorts") blame your ass.  It's time for accountability and reality to rule, instead of blaming every woman for ones own failures.

This non-optimistic unrealistic crap gags me.

[Richard]

... in response to Re: Beware!!, posted by rojak on Oct 26, 2001

RWNA = Russian Women Never Again
RWTT = Russian Women Take Two
RWNA-TT = Russian Women Never Again - Take Two - a merger of the two after the demise of RWTT.

These are people who have had bad experiences with Russian women and have been know to take an activist approach to prevent others from having the same type of experience.  (I am attempting to put this in a neutral way, so please, no flames about me being naieve or anything.)