Dating/wife hunting in winter? good/bad

[jj]

Can any one tell me is it worth visiting Ukraine/Belarus an Russia yo meet women in winter?  What is the best visa for a three day visit to Moscow/Minsk?

[Jack]

... in response to Dating/wife hunting in winter? good/bad, posted by jj on Oct 27, 2001

jj/Max,

 As it seems your previous bad mouthing of P-L and the whole Russian bride scene has vanished from your vocabulary, I will voice my opinion to you on this subject.

 If you are going to see one woman, one woman whom you have previously met and you have great interest in, then the winter will be ok as it will allow you a lot of opportunity for some serious one on one time.

 However, again in my humble opinion, there is no comparison as to what time of the year you go if you are trying to meet MANY ladies on a trip.

 These ladies love to get out and do things, to walk, to show you there history, parks, monuments. To take river cruises, weekend trips to the country, or the sea, things you cannot do so easity in the winter.

 Although only used about 10% ot the time, some clients will go to certain locations in each city where there are usually many people who walk by, including many lovely ladies. You are aware of one such place jj/Max as infront of MacDonalds on Kreshatyk is one such location. Never fells that when you are out and about, usually with another woman, you see so many beauties that you would love to approach or talk to but cannot at the time. So sometimes guys will go to these hot spot locations and will point out to there interpreter/guide certain ladies that they are interested in meeting due to her pure beauty. One out of every 4.6 ladies will agree to talk with this man and maybe meet him later. As with most things involved with this wonderful pursuit, it is a numbers game. Point out 15 ladies and chances are three will talk with you and probably meet you later.

 Try doing this in the winter, not so easy.

 And this is just one little minor advantage.

 To see these beautiful creatures in there spring or summer wear is a beautiful site. Where as some guys who prefer the winter and seeing these ladies in long heavy coats, big boots, scarfs and hats, seems too me many more men prefer to see and observe these ladies in there short, sheer, seductive, sensual short skirts and dreeses (I hope this description does not offend you Quasamoto). Most American women trying to wear these same outfits would look obsene, but on these women it is true art.

 My four cents worth.

[tim360z]

... in response to Re: Dating/wife hunting in winter? good/..., posted by Jack on Oct 28, 2001

Hope all is well.  Best,  Tim

[Jack]

... in response to Welcome Back,  Jack!!!, posted by tim360z on Oct 28, 2001

All is well. Life is wonderful.

Thank God for Russian women!

[Reagan]

... in response to Dating/wife hunting in winter? good/bad, posted by jj on Oct 27, 2001

One of the best trips I ever had to the FSU, was in wintertime. My brother and I had a blast running around Moscow and Kiev. We met some Ukrainians and they showed us around Kiev. We went to some old Nazi bunkers on a hill outside of town. There were people walking around, hanging out and drinking and laughing. It was a blast. Then we went to the Cowboy bar right off of Kreshatyk and met some gorgeous babes. They even came up to us and asked us if we wanted to dance. (I know what some of your are thinking, no they weren't prostitutes). We also had a good time in Moscow. The pictures I took with snow covering the ground in Kiev and in Moscow, turned out great.

Just take a good coat and some good cold weather boots. My other five trips to the FSU, (St.Petersburg, Kishinev, Penza, Moscow, Penza) were memorable, but my winter trip was the best.

Go for it

Cheers

Kevin

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Dating/wife hunting in winter? good/bad, posted by jj on Oct 27, 2001

In the summer a lot of women go on vacation and may be harder to hook up with unless you're going on vacation with them.  The summer is also bad because they don't have much air conditioning over there and you're going to work up a sweat walking around.  In coastal areas the humidity may be pretty high and make it feel hotter than you thought it would.  

In the winter it's pretty darn cold and you can't go outside and see some of the sights as well.  For example if you're going to St Petersburg and want to visit Catherine's Summer Palace, the fountains won't be turned on and you will miss out on taking some great pictures.  You may not want to go outside and get pictures of Peterhoff and other sights either.  You'll also have to pack a lot of heavy clothes and it will be a hassle.  Ah, but maybe you can talk her into some indoor activities if you're lucky.

Fall and Spring are better because it's more moderate weather to go out in.  You can get away with packing lighter unless a cold front comes through.

[BrianN]

... in response to Re: Dating/wife hunting in winter? Bad, posted by BubbaGump on Oct 27, 2001

Going to Moscow in december for xmas... any ideas on clothing recommendations? (I'm laughing, but I'm serious!).
tia.

[Lynn]

... in response to Re: Re: Help Bubba, anyone..., posted by BrianN on Oct 27, 2001

I don't know about Xmas, but Christmas is not in December, not in Moscow, it is Jan. 7th, Dec. 25th is just another day to most of them (by the "X" it must be another day for you also). New Year's there is celebrated much like Christmas is here, with all the hooplah----exchanging of gifts,Grandfather Frost,etc. Christmas is more of a solemn holiday for family. From New Year's (Jan,1st) until the Old New Year's (Jan.14) is considered their holiday season. Knowledge of customs, holidays, expected behavior will win you points with your lady and her family------and that's as easy as purchasing a book and doing a little reading on your flight over----The Russian Way by Zita Dabars is a quick read and very informative, $13 list @ Access Russia.

Get some silk long-johns from Eddie Bauer or some place like that (they are very thin, but surprisingly warm). I have worn these under my normal dress clothes and been quite comfortable in blizzard conditions in Moscow-----I generally wear a long wool overcoat, a wide dark colored polar-tec fleece scarf (a must) and some kind of hat, usually a crusher fedora or pick up a hat from one of the local shops or vendors if the wind is very fierce (and it usually is)

3 or 2cts from Dixie

Lynn

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: Re: Help Bubba, anyone..., posted by BrianN on Oct 27, 2001

When I went to St Pete I forgot to take a heavy coat and it turned very cold.  I went to a mall and got a fleece (or flannel maybe?) coat, I guess that's what you call it.  It has a removable liner and is very warm.  That seems to be a typical coat there.  I keep forgetting my coat every time.

I wanted to blend in with the locals but they can just look at me and can tell I'm not Russian anyway.  Russians wear a lot of black because it doesn't show dirt.  They wear black jeans more than blue jeans and they don't often wear white tennis shoes like we do. The coat set me back about $45. Clubs and ballets will have a place to check your coat.  

I guess you can try long underwear.  Take a suit if you go to the ballet.  You will want to go to the ballet because Russian ballet is outstanding.  I thought a lot of Americans looked very tacky at the ballet in St Pete because they went in their jeans and tennis shoes. Ballet is a formal event.  The Russians wore their best clothes.  It's nice to have cough drops at the ballet if you're like me and always seem to cough at these things.

[wsbill]

... in response to Re: Re: Help Bubba, anyone..., posted by BrianN on Oct 27, 2001

Try some fur lined underwear!!!!!!!

Actually, wear what mountaineering people wear.  A turtle neck with a fleece pullover (very warm)... I typically wear two of those fleece pullovers and I'm quite snugg.

The fleece is also great because if it gets wet it drieds out fast and the turtleneck will wick away any sweat/moisture, too.

Don't forget a warm cap/hat.

Water proof hiking boots and some thick sox.  Maybe some thermal underwear - pants.

[mdante99]

... in response to Dating/wife hunting in winter? good/bad, posted by jj on Oct 27, 2001

I met my wife in the middle of winter; several people here did well when they went in winter; those that went last spring or summer did not do so well; as they posted here. But this may just be anecdotal.

Eastern Europeans are used to long winters. We used to sit by the fireplace almost every night till late. FSU people are very social; your future wife and in addition her parents and her friends will all invite you, to have tea by their fireplace.
Mark

[Go2Rus]

... in response to Dating/wife hunting in winter? good/bad, posted by jj on Oct 27, 2001

As I commented a few months back, I was amazed at the amount of travel these RW of small economic resources do.  It caused a lot of trouble arranging my meeting times with ladies in September, because so many of them were on 3-4 week trips in July - Aug and even into September.  I missed out of a couple of real winners (at least I hoped) because they just didn't get in enough correspondence with me before I arrived (because of their being on vacations).

A trip at the time you are thinking would probably avoid all of the problems I noted above.

But a 3 day trip; I wouldn't even dream of it.  For me, it would be a complete waste of time.  It will take you a day to get situated and another day to get ready to head back.

[mdante99]

... in response to Dating/wife hunting in winter? good/bad, posted by jj on Oct 27, 2001

Winter is the best time to go there. Fares and hotels are cheaper, less crowds.

Mark

[BrianN]

... in response to Re: Dating/wife hunting in winter? good/..., posted by mdante99 on Oct 27, 2001

will include a higher prevalence of depression during the winter months, and the impact of a visit then may be received with much higher mood swings, and a greater degree of emotional excitement; who knows.

Taking advantage of a situation maybe?  hmmm, trying to think of the last time an aw asked me if we did anything the night before because she got so plastered...

[ron]

... in response to Re: Re: Other issues I think, posted by BrianN on Oct 27, 2001

the winter is worse time to go to meet ladies in my opinion. spring is best, then the fall, then the summer. summer might be better if not for so many ladies taking their vacations during the summer, because of this a higher percentage are un-available.