Do Not Send Money!!!

[KenMan]

If you guys continue to be suckered into sending money to a girl you meet on an internet singles site SHAME ON YOU!!! If you wrote to a girl from Michigan or Utah and she said she needed money for this or that what would your reaction be? Would you send it? Well sending money to someone you have never seen in person but wrote a few letters to is stupid and desperate! If you really want to find a sincere and honest woman be patient. Start a writing correspondence followed by a visit to see her. The advice by Bubba Gump should be heeded! My advice write and visit. See the girl, see the family. And remember NEVER TRADE LOVE FOR AFFECTION!

[KenMan]

... in response to Do Not Send Money!!!, posted by KenMan on Oct 13, 2001

my apology for posting twice but maybe those thinking of sending any significant amount of money need to read it twice. You are ruining this for honest and sincere people and have turned it into a business for these ladies. They are big fish in a little pond when you send them American $$$

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: Do Not Send Money!!!, posted by KenMan on Oct 13, 2001

At least somebody agrees with me.  Not sending money also agrees with the cheap side of me.  I'll spend a bunch of money on them once they come over but I'll have to pace myself or else they'll think I'm rich.  

I don't want to see another post where one girl tells another girl that her American boyfriend sends more money.  Too much money sets a bad precident.  

[KenMan]

... in response to But your message needed reemphasis, posted by BubbaGump on Oct 13, 2001

Yes, I imagine and it even says it in the scammer website that sending money for internet and translation expensives is not necessarily a scam. Still $50 a month is a month income in this country. If the girl can write to more than one man who knows. Does she make a percentage of this fee? I imagine 95%+ of the men who write will never visit so why shouldn't she write to more than one man. And if there is not much work and can survive and make an income from this again I say why not? Of course she might not be 100% sincere but are the men who write? Anyways all is fair in love and war. Women and men, LOVE and MONEY! My strategy is just this. I do not mind sending up to $50 a month in internet-translation fees but I have planned a trip for November. I will then get a better feel if this is right for me. I was writing to one girl. Sent $50 for a few letters and then asked her to switch to another internet-translation service that was half the price of the one we were using. She never did switch so I stopped writing to her. I said if this was someone I wanted to marry she would gladly want to save US some money. It cost me $50 which was a cheap lesson. Anyways I have 4 girls that I plan to visit. I will then come back and see how we correspond until the Spring in which I will make another visit. I think write a couple months. Plan a visit. Write a few more months. Plan a visit and I might have something. Most of the girls are on ALL the single sites. Friendfinder, kiss, absolute agency. Some with more than one profile on each site. I imagine they get more than a few letters. But how many men or women are actually serious to marriage? I hope to find out more. I will have a little more and possibly good experience. Guess what city I am targeting? Yes!!! The Scammer Capital... I believe it is the poorest area with no work. Has a bad reputation which diminishes the competition. I also believe there are girls who REALLY want to leave that city and start a new life with a better opportunity. Well who knows take a chance. Lose a few bucks at worst but have alot of fun at MOST!

[BubbaGump]

... in response to My personal and GREEN experience....., posted by KenMan on Oct 14, 2001

I did not mean to imply that translation services were a scam.  I was thinking he was sending a bunch of money to the girl.  If I'm writing a lot of girls I should expect to spend a lot on translation services.  The online translator I used gave some very strange translations.  It made me wonder what she was reading.  I'm going to try that translator recommended below on some old emails and see if it's any better.

I've been on two trips but didn't get the girls to come back and I've learned from the mistakes.  I'm shooting for the stars, and they are the hardest to get.  

It is hard to get anything going in such a short time.  When you split your time between several women they get mad that you see other women and you don't get to know any of them very well.  It makes them think you're just there to play around with them.  I also blew off some nice girls that showed a strong interest to choose the better looking women.  Even the good looking women must be frustrated at the choices we have.  

I think you have to get things started with some letters to determine their motives and how much you have in common.  Demonstrate an interest in them in your letters or else they will quickly stop writing.  Then go for a short visit to see if there's any chemistry at all and go for a second longer visit if the first visit went well.  

[KenMan]

... in response to Re: My personal and GREEN experience......., posted by BubbaGump on Oct 14, 2001

Email me if you want to talk sometime. That is pretty much what I have done. I am going to go to one city for a week. I have been writing to three girls and have contacted an Agency. I wanted to concentrate on only ONE!!! But??? I asked myself what if it doesn't work out with her. I get there and she acts disinterested or the chemistry is not there. I am going to be upfront and honest with them. Tell them they are probably writing to more than one man and we are just courting ( dating ) to get a feeling if there is something between us. I do not plan on a sexual affair so when I get back the one I communicate with best is the one I will spend more time with next time. I still have a couple of days open in Kiev and might ask one if she would like to go there with me. The writing process is really good. You get see who really is interested and how you communicate. Always ask QUESTIONS!!! See if or how she answers them. Each letter should complement the other one. The form letters are easy to detect. Also the affectionate ones that profess an undying love for you. I stay away from those automatically. I only write to the ones with an intelligent conversation that is on a friendship level. If they are scammimg me for a few dollars then they deserve and can keep the change. I mean if I get 15 to 20 well thought out letters that have meaning ONLY FOR ME then it is worth it. I would not want to go more than 2 or 3 months of writing without a visit though. Anyways I hope that it works!!!