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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2018, 06:28:43 PM »
I don't know what the current retirement income requirement is for obtaining a pensionado vise but it is surely more than $1052 which is in dollars the point at which the declaration de renta requirement kicks in.

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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2018, 10:40:55 PM »
Like Calipro says, when renewing a retirement visa Migraciòn may have to report an expat to DIAN if the amount on the retirement or social security income statement exceeds a certain amount, in other words if the retirees income subjects him to declare taxes.
If they aren't doing it now it is sure to come.

Dont start and support unsubstantiated rumours Vikingo

"May","Could","theoretically"

I just got  mine renewed 2 months ago and there was no mention.of anything remotely  related to DIAN.

So much paranoia and rumours floating around on these Forums.

People seem.to have nothing better  to do in Colombia but creaste rumors and gossip.


Like I said, I will believe it when I see it. Have yet to hear of a case of an Expat having his  house or Bank account siezed for not paying taxes on US income and assets.

When I see concrete evidence of this, I will start to believe the rumours   and gossip.
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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2018, 01:18:37 PM »
Well, I just got my retirement visa renewed too, but I only declared my income sources from one country I lived in which was enough (three monthly minimum wages) to qualify me for a visa but kept me under the tax filing requirement.
I wouldn't put it past DIAN though to require Migration to report pensioners with a certain income in the future, once the government gets  more efficiently computerized between different branches. What easier way is there to get their hands on some badly needed funds? If the expat doesn't have property or accounts in Colombia they can attach, they catch him at the airport or the border when he tries to leave the country.
So he would have to remain in the country forever and live under the radar, meaning no Colombian investments or purchase of any property that requires registration.
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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2018, 02:03:14 PM »
Well, I just got my retirement visa renewed too, but I only declared my income sources from one country I lived in which was enough (three monthly minimum wages) to qualify me for a visa but kept me under the tax filing requirement.
I wouldn't put it past DIAN though to require Migration to report pensioners with a certain income in the future, once the government gets  more efficiently computerized between different branches. What easier way is there to get their hands on some badly needed funds? If the expat doesn't have property or accounts in Colombia they can attach, they catch him at the airport or the border when he tries to leave the country.
So he would have to remain in the country forever and live under the radar, meaning no Colombian investments or purchase of any property that requires registration.

Yeah catch him and do what?

Live in tve Country forever? Ja ja

Have you talked to a real competent.lawyer and confirmed they can contain you or are you just speculating again?

You have been living here all theise years and you still dont know how things work in Colombia ?

You can waste your time worrying about "what ifs"..ja ja

Whatever
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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2018, 04:12:40 AM »
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Have you talked to a real competent.lawyer and confirmed they can contain you or are you just speculating again?
Have you talked to a real competent lawyer, elex? You reside in Colombia and I only visit about twice a year but even I know that if you ask 3 people the same question you are going to get 3 totally different answers!

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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2018, 10:10:35 AM »
Elexpatriado said:Have you talked to a real competent lawyer, elex? You reside in Colombia and I only visit about twice a year but even I know that if you ask 3 people the same question you are going to get 3 totally different answers!

No I just talked to a lots of incompetent one s.. on that subject...

I do.know that money does anything in Colombia..and if they did or could hold you Up at the border.. nothing a little."vacuna"" wouldnt fix..when.it comes to minor issues like debts , immigracion problems and tax issues.


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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2018, 04:45:55 PM »
No I just talked to a lots of incompetent one s.. on that subject...

I do.know that money does anything in Colombia..and if they did or could hold you Up at the border.. nothing a little."vacuna"" wouldnt fix..when.it comes to minor issues like debts , immigracion problems and tax issues.
Exactly. I paid off a customs official with 40$ in January to avoid paying 350$ due to my wife who is an American citizen not having her Colombian passport...

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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2018, 10:37:43 AM »
Exactly. I paid off a customs official with 40$ in January to avoid paying 350$ due to my wife who is an American citizen not having her Colombian passport...


Most countries require citizens of the country to enter with that country's passport. Canada was a notable exception to this rule but has since changed it's policy. Now only dual US-Canadian citizens can enter Canada without a Canadian passport.

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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2018, 11:35:03 AM »
Double post/requote below.
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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #59 on: August 08, 2018, 08:31:32 PM »
I'm in the Detroit area right now, and from my parent's highrise, I can see thirty miles off, the Caesar's Palace Casino and other Windsor, Ontario landmarks.

At one point, I went to boarding school in Windsor and we still occasionally visit. When I was in boarding school, I probably was responsible for half the 'recreational' contraband crossing the border, but every time, they smiled and waved my parents thru, easy as pie.

Back then, you just said you were from the USA and they basically smiled, said "have a nice visit" and you were on your way. In.

We preferred certain Canadian products. Even though the box looked exactly the same outside, the Red Rose brand tea inside is/was different - - the tea inside is much better there and we always bought Red Rose and various strains of tea there. They appreciate tea more than most in the USA, they just really expect better quality over there.

Of course, their mainstream beer brands  are typically also superior in general also and the people a bit nicer mannered overall as well A lot less guns, shootings and robberies, just crossing the river into Canada, compared to Detroit.

But I was never one to just 'fit in' - - we used to break out of our boarding school, hotwire cars and cruise around. I roomed with the equally delinquent Asian son of the owner of what was then one the largest computer/ electronics corporations in the then rapidly emerging tech world.

That kid was a genius in all things legitimate and otherwise. He could hotwire and start a car about as fast as I could start it, if I'd had a key.

We'd buy Molsons or LaBlatts (we had a hidden bucket at the school, filled with apple cider, raisins and bread, covered with a stocking, fermenting for our on campus imbibing) and at night, we'd cruise around Windsor, quaffing brewskies until about sunrise, then ditch the car and break back into the boarding house. Ah, the 'good old days' LOL

But with the exchange rate in the USD's favor right now anyway and me playing 100% legit, I'll probably go over and check the bank for prices on gold and silver coins/bullion see what market prices are now, examine the 5 year and last 12 month trends,  and hope for an uptick from the exchange rate alone

But unlike before, to go into Canada nowadays, a USA Passport is required. It used to be a breeze, but heading over there, now it's not only PP required, but sometimes even twenty questions.

Last time we hit Toronto, then visited Whitey and Nazly (anyone remember them?) in London, Ontario, and coming back, they even pulled us aside at the border and inspected the trunk. Guess I'd be in jail had I not declared that quart of maple syrup.

My, how times have changed....
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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2018, 07:08:21 PM »
Mi suegra turned 80 and my wife wants to bring her from Peru for a visit to this country.  Problem is that she can't walk well and make it on her own, especially with luggage.  I've seen the old folks being taken through airports and put on planes by airport workers.  Wondering if anyone has brought an elderly person using this service, how to make arrangements for it, is it a free service, etc.

Sooo---No Comment,  Did you decide whether or not to bring your Mother in law over? I sort of dodged that decision. Instead, I sent my wife home to the Philippines last week and besides her enjoying a few weeks there with her whole family, she's taken her sisters and Mother in law to Hong Kong and now Macau, China. No visas needed. Easy--just add money and passports.

A Visa to the USA for her Mom is more of a hassle  to get. I wouldn't, couldn't  tell my wife " No, she can't come visit", but If she did, I'd be worried as hell that given she has some serious health issues/ailments, that if she needed hospitalization in the USA, the bill would bankrupt us.

But wouldn't you know it, her Mom's held up like a trooper in HK, Disneyland,  tours all over HK and Macau--all that glitz and grandeur--it has energized her and she's 'all about it'. But I'm sure, she'll be happy to get back home.

But that's Asia. I think given how despite being highly educated, she's always been sort of a farm wife, a person deeply involved with and comfy with the rural life, that like a lot of elderly Filipinos, after seeing Walmart, the mall etc, she'd want to go back within a week.

Life in the USA, beyond the mandatory Disneyworld pilgrimage, isn't exactly the 'cup of tea' for a lot of older foreigners, contrary to what we might otherwise expect.

It even took 6 or 7 years before my young wife decided that she'd rather stay in the USA.Before that, if it were possible for her and I to move back to her home and have a decent standard of living, she'd have loved it.

But she's come to embrace life in the USA, the work rat race and $$$ hard earned, the lack of community and family cohesiveness, different food and all that...
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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2018, 07:26:46 PM »
Sooo---No Comment,  Did you decide whether or not to bring your Mother in law over? I sort of dodged that decision. Instead, I sent my wife home to the Philippines last week and besides her enjoying a few weeks there with her whole family, she's taken her sisters and Mother in law to Hong Kong and now Macau, China. No visas needed. Easy--just add money and passports.

A Visa to the USA for her Mom is more of a hassle  to get. I wouldn't, couldn't  tell my wife " No, she can't come visit", but If she did, I'd be worried as hell that given she has some serious health issues/ailments, that if she needed hospitalization in the USA, the bill would bankrupt us.

But wouldn't you know it, her Mom's held up like a trooper in HK, Disneyland,  tours all over HK and Macau--all that glitz and grandeur--it has energized her and she's 'all about it'. But I'm sure, she'll be happy to get back home.

But that's Asia. I think given how despite being highly educated, she's always been sort of a farm wife, a person deeply involved with and comfy with the rural life, that like a lot of elderly Filipinos, after seeing Walmart, the mall etc, she'd want to go back within a week.

Life in the USA, beyond the mandatory Disneyworld pilgrimage, isn't exactly the 'cup of tea' for a lot of older foreigners, contrary to what we might otherwise expect.

It even took 6 or 7 years before my young wife decided that she'd rather stay in the USA.Before that, if it were possible for her and I to move back to her home and have a decent standard of living, she'd have loved it.

But she's come to embrace life in the USA, the work rat race and $$$ hard earned, the lack of community and family cohesiveness, different food and all that...
I've thought about the health issue. My wife wanted to bring her aunt to help with the kids but her visa was denied. Iromically, she is now dealing with cancer. Had she come here I'd probably be bankrupt now....

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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2018, 10:12:04 PM »
I've thought about the health issue. My wife wanted to bring her aunt to help with the kids but her visa was denied. Iromically, she is now dealing with cancer. Had she come here I'd probably be bankrupt now....

MC,  Sorry to hear about your wife's Aunt. Oncology bill's are huge. But hell, even smaller things, like an appendix,  a gall bladder, car accident injuries or God forbid a heart attack/surgery, easily can escalate into the tens of thousands of dollars.

What really sucks is because you and I likely have medical insurance, the bill for say, a  the starting 'average' is seventy thousand dollars for a  heart bypass operation--on up to 200K+, would be cut in half when billed to our insurance and we might pay out of pocket 100s or a few thousand after deductible.

She---without any US insurance, would get the full, non adjusted, maximum bill, and they'd be mailing it to YOUR address. Scary indeed....
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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #63 on: August 13, 2018, 11:05:46 AM »
MC,  Sorry to hear about your wife's Aunt. Oncology bill's are huge. But hell, even smaller things, like an appendix,  a gall bladder, car accident injuries or God forbid a heart attack/surgery, easily can escalate into the tens of thousands of dollars.

What really sucks is because you and I likely have medical insurance, the bill for say, a  the starting 'average' is seventy thousand dollars for a  heart bypass operation--on up to 200K+, would be cut in half when billed to our insurance and we might pay out of pocket 100s or a few thousand after deductible.

She---without any US insurance, would get the full, non adjusted, maximum bill, and they'd be mailing it to YOUR address. Scary indeed....


That's the beauty of being a Canadian citizen. The second I cross the border and establish residency again, I am completely covered. One of my daughters is thinking about going to Canada and having her next child there. She is also a Canadian citizen. I may buy a house up there in the next few years just to have a place to go - in rural parts of the Maritimes, you can buy a house for a song even with ocean frontage. Most of those places are losing population and everyone left is dying of old age.

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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #64 on: August 13, 2018, 01:16:47 PM »

That's the beauty of being a Canadian citizen. The second I cross the border and establish residency again, I am completely covered. One of my daughters is thinking about going to Canada and having her next child there. She is also a Canadian citizen. I may buy a house up there in the next few years just to have a place to go - in rural parts of the Maritimes, you can buy a house for a song even with ocean frontage. Most of those places are losing population and everyone left is dying of old age.

That until all the ilegal  border crossers bankrupt the system

Already long waiting times in the 4 or 5 biggest cities.

Thank God Doug Ford got in in Ontario and people are starting to see sense (been "Red Pilled").

What we need now is for the drama teacher to get turfed in a couple years.

Marítimes or rural.areas are tve place to be in Canadá for Heath care.

Although with tve new "Triage" system.the drama teacher dreamt up, I see there are even Nigerian illegals with their families being put upin Saskatoon where I grew Up.

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Re: Putting mother in law on a plane
« Reply #65 on: August 13, 2018, 04:15:27 PM »
That until all the ilegal  border crossers bankrupt the system

Already long waiting times in the 4 or 5 biggest cities.

Thank God Doug Ford got in in Ontario and people are starting to see sense (been "Red Pilled").

What we need now is for the drama teacher to get turfed in a couple years.

Marítimes or rural.areas are tve place to be in Canadá for Heath care.

Although with tve new "Triage" system.the drama teacher dreamt up, I see there are even Nigerian illegals with their families being put upin Saskatoon where I grew Up.


You don't see many immigrants of any kind in rural Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. Large areas of both provinces are pretty much shells of what they once were. Most of them peaked about 1960 and have been declining ever since.

 

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