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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2018, 09:38:07 PM »
According to the World Economic Forum:


"The top five most dangerous countries are Nigeria, Pakistan, El Salvador, Yemen, and Colombia."

http://www.thisisinsider.com/dangerous-countries-2017-5

Something doesn't sound right. I'd rather take my chances with Colombia rather than Pakistan, Yemen or with Honduras for that matter....

Forbes pegs Colombia at number ten, citing the US State Dept. as it's source guide, but there are a whole lot of hell holes, several dozen really, that I would imagine being a lot more dangerous.

I mean, they find Colombia more dangerous for US citizens than the Congo or North Korea?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/priceonomics/2017/03/21/ranking-the-most-dangerous-countries-for-americans-to-visit/#1c3d5c0528a7
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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2018, 06:19:15 AM »
i dont know who comes up with these lists, maybe its countries that people might actually go to. but their are many more countries way more dangerous.


but yes, Colombia can be a dangerous place, more so if your messing around with questionable women that you know you shouldnt, or dont know their history or friends. yes gringos get set up and robbed all the time by girls and their friends here.


 Venezuela  i would think would be a lot more dangerous than Colombia right now, but i dont see anybody wanting to go there and get robbed leaving the airport. ::)

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2018, 08:12:28 AM »
I told this story before but in 2003 when I was on my way to Medellin, I was sitting next to a man and his son on their way back to Honduras. They came to Texas to buy used pickup trucks which they sent by barge back to Honduras for resale. They did this several times a year and this was their business. He was telling me about San Pedro Sula where they were from and after he was done, I was relieved that I was going to Medellin and not San Pedro Sula. It really sounded like hell on earth.

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2018, 08:33:15 AM »
There is a story in todays paper about a small business man from Cali who was kidnapped on his way to his finca in a rural zone near Santander del Quilichao in Cauca department. He was held for four days but escaped yesterday when his captors were partying. Police think it was dissident members of the FARC.


http://www.elpais.com.co/judicial/comerciante-caleno-secuestrado-en-el-cauca-se-fugo-de-sus-captores-en-jambalo.html
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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2018, 08:40:23 AM »
I told this story before but in 2003 when I was on my way to Medellin, I was sitting next to a man and his son on their way back to Honduras. They came to Texas to buy used pickup trucks which they sent by barge back to Honduras for resale. They did this several times a year and this was their business. He was telling me about San Pedro Sula where they were from and after he was done, I was relieved that I was going to Medellin and not San Pedro Sula. It really sounded like hell on earth.


It's really off the charts, and If they even kept accurate records, it'd look worse. They claim the murder rate is down last couple,of years, but seeing how many victims are never found and most crimes aren't reported--yet the rate is still the highest in the area, I don't see how they can claim improvement.

The police are part of the problem, rather than the solution.

Yea our country has issues, but as with my life in general, I'm more glad for things I don't have to worry about every day than I am about conditions and possessions. I think we're too obsessed about 'things',  including more things that we want, and not cognizant, never mind grateful, for what we do have.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/men-women-honduras-inside-dangerous-places-earth-woman/story?id=47135328

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/honduras
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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2018, 03:35:19 PM »


but yes, Colombia can be a dangerous place, more so if your messing around with questionable women that you know you shouldnt, or dont know their history or friends. yes gringos get set up and robbed all the time by girls and their friends here.



It amazes me that you take a gringo out of the U.S. and put him in Colombia where he has all the social and economic advantages that he never had before. And still... some how.... he still gets taken advantage of by women. LMFAO!!




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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2018, 04:48:58 PM »

It amazes me that you take a gringo out of the U.S. and put him in Colombia where he has all the social and economic advantages that he never had before. And still... some how.... he still gets taken advantage of by women. LMFAO!!


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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2018, 06:16:30 PM »

It amazes me that you take a gringo out of the U.S. and put him in Colombia where he has all the social and economic advantages that he never had before. And still... some how.... he still gets taken advantage of by women. LMFAO!!


 just recently i was invited to a wedding here in march, buy a guy in his 50's marrying a girl in her 20's with a young child.    been together for a whole 6 months, maybe a total of a month in total days together.  and this guy is going to bring this girl and her child to USA.  many guys confuse sex and affection with love and  commitment, once   they go south.


 I  see a pending divorce and payments coming soon.

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2018, 06:40:19 PM »

"Feminine beauty is like clean drinking water. In some countries you can find it in any given kitchen. In others there are men willing to kill and die for it. I have traveled the entire world and I have yet to find a breed of men more "thirsty" than those in the United States."


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So true. I posted a few years back about a venezolana via Barranquilla.  She had two spoiled sons by a Colombiano, and of course a gringo married her and brought her and her kids to the States. He funded her lipo and boob job while also funding her 6 yearly trips to BAQ and the negocio she was doing there. On top of that, he gave her 2000 bucks a month in spending money. Meanwhile, even though the guy hoped she'd have his kid, she confided in my wife there was no way shed have a kid with him. I also found it interesting her facebook was full of selfies but not a single pic of him...long story short, she left him 2 years ago for a Colombiano here in the States who is younger and in better shape physically.  She has plenty of pics of him on facebook while the gringo ex has to continue to support her financially...

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2018, 09:47:01 PM »
So true. I posted a few years back about a venezolana via Barranquilla.  She had two spoiled sons by a Colombiano, and of course a gringo married her and brought her and her kids to the States. He funded her lipo and boob job while also funding her 6 yearly trips to BAQ and the negocio she was doing there. On top of that, he gave her 2000 bucks a month in spending money. Meanwhile, even though the guy hoped she'd have his kid, she confided in my wife there was no way shed have a kid with him. I also found it interesting her facebook was full of selfies but not a single pic of him...long story short, she left him 2 years ago for a Colombiano here in the States who is younger and in better shape physically.  She has plenty of pics of him on facebook while the gringo ex has to continue to support her financially...

That is a GREAT story....tragic/pathetic for the guy but a very good warning to anyone considering walking down this path.

$2,000 a month in spending money...WTF!? Amazes me how some people think they can buy love and affection. I assume the guy lives in San Diego.

If he wanted to "hire" a professional he could have found some cheap(er) labor directly south of the border with Tijuana. Jajaja.

Pictures are worth a thousand words...I'd love to see a photo of the gringo and the Venezuelan chick. 

 

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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2018, 09:57:31 PM »
That is a GREAT story....tragic/pathetic for the guy but a very good warning to anyone considering walking down this path.

$2,000 a month in spending money...WTF!? Amazes me how some people think they can buy love and affection. I assume the guy lives in San Diego.

If he wanted to "hire" a professional he could have found some cheap(er) labor directly south of the border with Tijuana. Jajaja.

Pictures are worth a thousand words...I'd love to see a photo of the gringo and the Venezuelan chick.
He wasn't a nerd. Beefy and seemingly masculine but he just couldn't say no to her. Its hard for me to feel sympathy for him though. My wife went out shopping for a suitcase with them in late 2013. We were living very modestly in an apartment with our infant daughter, and according to my wife they both tried to convince my wife to leave me, assuring her she could "do better" (eg financially) than with a guy like me...

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2018, 10:54:45 PM »
So true. I posted a few years back about a venezolana via Barranquilla.  She had two spoiled sons by a Colombiano, and of course a gringo married her and brought her and her kids to the States. He funded her lipo and boob job while also funding her 6 yearly trips to BAQ and the negocio she was doing there. On top of that, he gave her 2000 bucks a month in spending money. Meanwhile, even though the guy hoped she'd have his kid, she confided in my wife there was no way shed have a kid with him. I also found it interesting her facebook was full of selfies but not a single pic of him...long story short, she left him 2 years ago for a Colombiano here in the States who is younger and in better shape physically.  She has plenty of pics of him on facebook while the gringo ex has to continue to support her financially...


Just another story to illustrate how desperate American guys are.


In Colombia if your wife has a couple of your kids you are pretty safe from having some guy better looking or with more money trying to steal your wife and live with your kids. LOL!


Good looking Colombianos with cash have a hell of a lot better things to do.... than your wife with child.


Only in the U.S. are guys so desperate that they will take your ex-wife.... kids and all and think they really got it going on. jajaja


I don't know why the gringo would have to support her...unless he lives in a state that has alimony and that ends after a couple of years....God forbid if he adopted her children. Then he might as well commit suicide. Because that goes on until the kids are 18.


It is a lot easier on the guys that stay in Colombia. I'm 55 and my girlfriend is 29 and she knows I could go out and find a chick just as hot as her in no time. And way easier than she could find a guy willing to support her and my kid even if the guy was uglier than me. LOL


No doubt about it....the guys in Colombia are on top of the situation and the guys in the U.S. are on the bottom.
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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2018, 12:02:23 AM »

Just another story to illustrate how desperate American guys are.


In Colombia if your wife has a couple of your kids you are pretty safe from having some guy better looking or with more money trying to steal your wife and live with your kids. LOL!


Good looking Colombianos with cash have a hell of a lot better things to do.... than your wife with child.


Only in the U.S. are guys so desperate that they will take your ex-wife.... kids and all and think they really got it going on. jajaja


I don't know why the gringo would have to support her...unless he lives in a state that has alimony and that ends after a couple of years....God forbid if he adopted her children. Then he might as well commit suicide. Because that goes on until the kids are 18.


It is a lot easier on the guys that stay in Colombia. I'm 55 and my girlfriend is 29 and she knows I could go out and find a chick just as hot as her in no time. And way easier than she could find a guy willing to support her and my kid even if the guy was uglier than me. LOL


No doubt about it....the guys in Colombia are on top of the situation and the guys in the U.S. are on the bottom.
He lives in California so he's screwed...My most recent trip to Colombia made me feel like I was on a different planet. Guys in the US are beyond hope. There are plenty of guys in this country who simply cannot get laid...

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2018, 01:11:37 AM »
He wasn't a nerd. Beefy and seemingly masculine but he just couldn't say no to her. Its hard for me to feel sympathy for him though.

 Yeah, I can't feel much sympathy for the guy either since he was apparently spending money on her like a drunken sailor. Is he very wealthy or something? 


My wife went out shopping for a suitcase with them in late 2013. We were living very modestly in an apartment with our infant daughter, and according to my wife they both tried to convince my wife to leave me, assuring her she could "do better" (eg financially) than with a guy like me...

Jeez...WTF!?  Just f-u-c-k-I-n-g amazing! They both sound like they deserved each other's company...though she did dump the guy. What is the age difference between them?

Clearly, we have guys on P.L. (like you) who chose much more wisely than that guy did.

And while I am being hypercritical of the guy...I am trying to keep my eyes wide open because even though I wouldn't be as stupid as that guy was you just never know for certain until you take the plunge and bring the girl back.
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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2018, 01:27:58 AM »

Just another story to illustrate how desperate American guys are.

In Colombia if your wife has a couple of your kids you are pretty safe from having some guy better looking or with more money trying to steal your wife and live with your kids. LOL!

Good looking Colombianos with cash have a hell of a lot better things to do.... than your wife with child.


Even Russell Wilson (the NFL Quarterback) married a (hot) girl who already had a kid with another guy.

On a flight to Colombia I was sitting next to a guy from the U.S. He had married a Colombiana about 25 years his junior. He brought her back to the U.S. with the fiancé visa, etc.

After they were married for a while she started asking for kids (even though he repeatedly told her before they got married that he didn't want any kids). Apparently, she had an affair with a co-worker (in the states) and confessed to him she couldn't be with him anymore because she really wanted a kid. So they got an amicable divorce and she moved in with and had a kid with the co-worker.

When I met him on the flight to Colombia, he had just retired and was moving full time to Bogota to be with some Colombiana about 30 years younger than him. Not sure what the financial arrangement was with the chick in Bogota....but at least the guy got smarter and was getting the hell out of the U.S.


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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2018, 01:44:18 AM »
This is a more credible list. The 50 most violent cities in the world (based on homicide rate).

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2017-4/#50-durban-south-africa-had-3443-homicides-per-100000-residents-1

Of the 50 cities on the list, 43 are in Latin America, including 19 in Brazil, eight in Mexico, and seven in Venezuela.

The Top Ten (as in the highest homicide rates) are:
1. Caracas
2. Acapulco
3. San Pedro Sula
4. Distrito Central (Honduras)
5. Ciudad Victoria (Mexico)
6. Maturin (Venezuela)
7. San Salvador
8. Ciudad Guyana (Venezuela)
9. Valencia (Venezuela)
10. Natal (Brazil)

There are four (4) cities in Colombia on the list. Cali is ranked the highest (i.e., the worst) of the Colombian cities at No. 21.

The other Colombian cities on the list are: Cucuta, Armenia and Palmira.


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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2018, 08:42:05 AM »
Yeah, I can't feel much sympathy for the guy either since he was apparently spending money on her like a drunken sailor. Is he very wealthy or something? 


Jeez...WTF!?  Just f-u-c-k-I-n-g amazing! They both sound like they deserved each other's company...though she did dump the guy. What is the age difference between them?

Clearly, we have guys on P.L. (like you) who chose much more wisely than that guy did.

And while I am being hypercritical of the guy...I am trying to keep my eyes wide open because even though I wouldn't be as stupid as that guy was you just never know for certain until you take the plunge and bring the girl back.
Age difference was probably 8-10 years. I dont think it was a factor....I think funding her trips to Barranquilla every 2 months was a huge mistake and symbolic of her complete dominance of him...  These women need a man who calls the shots; otherwise they will take control and end up leaving for another man they can respect...

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2018, 09:18:37 AM »
This is a more credible list. The 50 most violent cities in the world (based on homicide rate).

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2017-4/#50-durban-south-africa-had-3443-homicides-per-100000-residents-1

Of the 50 cities on the list, 43 are in Latin America, including 19 in Brazil, eight in Mexico, and seven in Venezuela.

The Top Ten (as in the highest homicide rates) are:
1. Caracas
2. Acapulco
3. San Pedro Sula
4. Distrito Central (Honduras)
5. Ciudad Victoria (Mexico)
6. Maturin (Venezuela)
7. San Salvador
8. Ciudad Guyana (Venezuela)
9. Valencia (Venezuela)
10. Natal (Brazil)

There are four (4) cities in Colombia on the list. Cali is ranked the highest (i.e., the worst) of the Colombian cities at No. 21.

The other Colombian cities on the list are: Cucuta, Armenia and Palmira.


I can attest that Natal, Brazil should definitely be on that list. The City of Natal itself...at least the area of the city they call Natal is just the affluent area along the coast. Some of the most beautiful coastline you'll find in Brazil. But the rest of the municipality is split into zones. All the "zones" are VERY dangerous. I didn't meet one person from Natal while I was there that hadn't been robbed at knife or gunpoint. Every time I left the hotel at night the door man would try to talk me out of it.  There's a lot of gang activity and violent crime the further you get away from the coast. Watching the news there is like seeing an action movie.
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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2018, 01:30:29 PM »

After they were married for a while she started asking for kids (even though he repeatedly told her before they got married that he didn't want any kids). Apparently, she had an affair with a co-worker (in the states) and confessed to him she couldn't be with him anymore because she really wanted a kid. So they got an amicable divorce and she moved in with and had a kid with the co-worker.



The relationship was doomed from the start.


Why would a gringoo ever marry a young chick and not want to have kids?
Why would a young chick marry a gringo and not want to have kids?


If a chick doesn't want your baby and she is willing to marry you....then she wants something else...like money or a green card on nice life style. Some gringos know this.


If a gringo wants to marry a hot chick and not have children....he wants to live and have sex with her while he lives in the U.S. All colombianas know this.

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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2018, 04:00:55 PM »
There are some young calleñas who really don't want kids. I have dated one (long term) with that attitude albeit she was only eighteen when she voiced that assertion. A lot of eighteen to mid twenty something girls  just don't want to be slowed down from the disco rumba by a kid but they almost always cave when they get older and their allure hits the wall. Regarding their allure one thing I've come to notice is that while a lot of them start out (18-19) with great slim figures by the time they're 25 they have huge thickened legs and hips and that's without having had any kids. You see women in Chipichapi who've had lipo, bust enlargement and butt injections but their legs never got longer so they look ridiculous (albeit not to Colombian men).
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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2018, 05:02:04 PM »
There are some young calleñas who really don't want kids. I have dated one (long term) with that attitude albeit she was only eighteen when she voiced that assertion. A lot of eighteen to mid twenty something girls  just don't want to be slowed down from the disco rumba by a kid but they almost always cave when they get older and their allure hits the wall. Regarding their allure one thing I've come to notice is that while a lot of them start out (18-19) with great slim figures by the time they're 25 they have huge thickened legs and hips and that's without having had any kids. You see women in Chipichapi who've had lipo, bust enlargement and butt injections but their legs never got longer so they look ridiculous (albeit not to Colombian men).


I've met several young ladies in Colombia of the same opinion. One of my ex's was very adamant about it and she took her birth control shots religiously although she hated some of the side effects. But most girls that talk like this don't actually do anything to prevent from getting pregnant. I've heard it a thousand times, but in the end some Colombiano charms them into the sack and the SOB's never have condoms. Even if they did they'd never use them. Then forget about them pulling out. It's just not something they think about. That "live for the moment" culture gets them every time. I met a lot of younger girls when I was living there. Relatives of girls I dated. Young girls that took classes at some of the institutes I taught English at. Most of them have managed to find me on Facebook, Instagram or both at some point since we met. Almost ALL of them...and I mean like 98% of them are now unwed mothers. I'm talking about dozens of young women between the ages of 16 and 25 in multiple cities from all sorts of backgrounds. It's just what happens to a lot of girls there. The only exceptions I've seen are girls from very affluent backgrounds, super religious girls (usually not Catholic, but Presbyterian or Mormon) and girls that are really serious about their studies.
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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2018, 06:16:10 PM »

I've met several young ladies in Colombia of the same opinion. One of my ex's was very adamant about it and she took her birth control shots religiously although she hated some of the side effects. But most girls that talk like this don't actually do anything to prevent from getting pregnant. I've heard it a thousand times, but in the end some Colombiano charms them into the sack and the SOB's never have condoms. Even if they did they'd never use them. Then forget about them pulling out. It's just not something they think about. That "live for the moment" culture gets them every time. I met a lot of younger girls when I was living there. Relatives of girls I dated. Young girls that took classes at some of the institutes I taught English at. Most of them have managed to find me on Facebook, Instagram or both at some point since we met. Almost ALL of them...and I mean like 98% of them are now unwed mothers. I'm talking about dozens of young women between the ages of 16 and 25 in multiple cities from all sorts of backgrounds. It's just what happens to a lot of girls there. The only exceptions I've seen are girls from very affluent backgrounds, super religious girls (usually not Catholic, but Presbyterian or Mormon) and girls that are really serious about their studies.
The difference between zColombia and the US. After a woman has a kid out of wedlock she's almost unmarriable. In the US she has guys lining up to support her and her kid lol

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2018, 06:16:10 PM »

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2018, 06:24:27 PM »
The difference between zColombia and the US. After a woman has a kid out of wedlock she's almost unmarriable. In the US she has guys lining up to support her and her kid lol


Yeah....I'll never understand that. Damn shame.

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2018, 07:50:07 PM »
There are some young calleñas who really don't want kids. I have dated one (long term) with that attitude albeit she was only eighteen when she voiced that assertion. A lot of eighteen to mid twenty something girls  just don't want to be slowed down from the disco rumba by a kid but they almost always cave when they get older and their allure hits the wall. Regarding their allure one thing I've come to notice is that while a lot of them start out (18-19) with great slim figures by the time they're 25 they have huge thickened legs and hips and that's without having had any kids. You see women in Chipichapi who've had lipo, bust enlargement and butt injections but their legs never got longer so they look ridiculous (albeit not to Colombian men).


Yeah, there are a lot of young colombianas that say they don't want to have kids. And I'll bet they don't want to get married either.
Nothing wrong with that especially if you are just interested in fun as well. But it's a huge red flag if you are wanting to get married and the girl you are with doesn't want children. And then you better figure out what her motivation is....if she does want to get married and preferably have it written up in contract form. jajaja


One thing I like about Medellin over Cali is that the women do stay slimmer as they age. The only bummer is that Paisa men like thinner women than Calenos. There is a lot more competition for the flaquitas en Medellin than in Cali.

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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2018, 07:54:31 PM »

Yeah....I'll never understand that. Damn shame.


I wouldn't fret about it too much.


It's one of the main reasons guys are still on top in Colombia. They absolutely refuse to pay for another guys mistakes. And the government doesn't step in to take the missing father's place either.




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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2018, 08:34:07 PM »

The relationship was doomed from the start.

Why would a gringoo ever marry a young chick and not want to have kids?
Why would a young chick marry a gringo and not want to have kids?



Yes, it was doomed from the start. The guy was older and already had grown children so he wasn't interested in more kids. He should have seen it coming from a mile away.

The guy seemed naive or he just didn't care....he knew he wasn't getting squat in the USA and figured he'd get it anyway he can get it. At least, that was my perspective on it.

He told me he's still on good terms with her relatives (parents, sisters, etc.) in Colombia. To them he is their "hero"....I guess since he was a one-way ticket to the USA for a family member.

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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2018, 10:10:56 PM »
Yes, it was doomed from the start. The guy was older and already had grown children so he wasn't interested in more kids. He should have seen it coming from a mile away.

The guy seemed naive or he just didn't care....he knew he wasn't getting squat in the USA and figured he'd get it anyway he can get it. At least, that was my perspective on it.

He told me he's still on good terms with her relatives (parents, sisters, etc.) in Colombia. To them he is their "hero"....I guess since he was a one-way ticket to the USA for a family member.


Sounds like in the end they both got what they wanted. Do you know how long they were together.



A couple of years with a trophy wife isn't bad if it doesn't cost too much in the end.

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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2018, 01:06:19 AM »

Sounds like in the end they both got what they wanted. Do you know how long they were together.

A couple of years with a trophy wife isn't bad if it doesn't cost too much in the end.

I don't recall exactly but I think it was in the ballpark of 3 years....

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2018, 05:37:14 PM »

One thing I like about Medellin over Cali is that the women do stay slimmer as they age. The only bummer is that Paisa men like thinner women than Calenos. There is a lot more competition for the flaquitas en Medellin than in Cali.

This statement caught my eye.

I prefer petite/thin with some curves and darker skin (than a typical paisa).  Here is an example of the body type and skin tone I like:






Would you say Cali or Medellin is more fertile ground for what I am looking for?



 


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« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2018, 06:28:20 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2018, 02:50:04 PM »

It's really off the charts, and If they even kept accurate records, it'd look worse. They claim the murder rate is down last couple,of years, but seeing how many victims are never found and most crimes aren't reported--yet the rate is still the highest in the area, I don't see how they can claim improvement.

The police are part of the problem, rather than the solution.

Yea our country has issues, but as with my life in general, I'm more glad for things I don't have to worry about every day than I am about conditions and possessions. I think we're too obsessed about 'things',  including more things that we want, and not cognizant, never mind grateful, for what we do have.

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https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/honduras

I was in SPS back in 2003.

Dangerous then. Way worse  nowadays.

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« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2018, 03:52:13 PM »

Just another story to illustrate how desperate American guys are.


In Colombia if your wife has a couple of your kids you are pretty safe from having some guy better looking or with more money trying to steal your wife and live with your kids. LOL!


Good looking Colombianos with cash have a hell of a lot better things to do.... than your wife with child.


Only in the U.S. are guys so desperate that they will take your ex-wife.... kids and all and think they really got it going on. jajaja


I don't know why the gringo would have to support her...unless he lives in a state that has alimony and that ends after a couple of years....God forbid if he adopted her children. Then he might as well commit suicide. Because that goes on until the kids are 18.


It is a lot easier on the guys that stay in Colombia. I'm 55 and my girlfriend is 29 and she knows I could go out and find a chick just as hot as her in no time. And way easier than she could find a guy willing to support her and my kid even if the guy was uglier than me. LOL


No doubt about it....the guys in Colombia are on top of the situation and the guys in the U.S. are on the bottom.

When Colombians and other Latinos go to the US,
They become desperate just like gringos. Get thier US citezenship.and they virtually become gringos.

And the Comombianas turn into gringas...kinda

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« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2018, 03:58:44 PM »

The relationship was doomed from the start.


Why would a gringoo ever marry a young chick and not want to have kids?
Why would a young chick marry a gringo and not want to have kids?


If a chick doesn't want your baby and she is willing to marry you....then she wants something else...like money or a green card on nice life style. Some gringos know this.


If a gringo wants to marry a hot chick and not have children....he wants to live and have sex with her while he lives in the U.S. All colombianas know this.

Funny
I know of a few Colombianas that have a kid with a gringo specifically for money ,economIcs, property or a green card.

In fact, dont really see getting away from.that....

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« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2018, 04:38:05 PM »
Immigrants coming to the USA from impoverished countries and as the oft used term becoming: "More American than the Americans", still is applicable, and in too many instances, in common with negative conotations more than the 'hard work and sweat' ethic and "patriotic" mindset. They're ALL about brand cachet.

They grasp the 'me' and 'more for me' mentality. Whereas back home, humility, thinking about family, religion, the 'team', the company and not so much about 'self', once in the USA, the almighty dollar and what it can get 'me' becomes more important.

Morally, young impressionable women who 'back home' might be frightened by social pressures from having extra marital affairs, from thinking about, never mind seeking, a divorce, or who back home were once tolerant of their boyfriends and husbands back home having affairs and mistresses on the side, change their mindsets after a whIle in the USA.

Between the media, overall USA cultural assimilation and friends from back home who've already grasped and shared the USA available game set--the rules and laws that can give them the upper hand---they often change. Their sense of loyalty is diluted.

Even material tastes change in odd ways. We like to go into Asian dominated areas of Atlanta and hit the great restaurants, bakeries and the shops that are really  a 'fusion' of mostly Asian influences, but have a lot of non Asian brand visibility as well. It's really interesting to watch what the people wear and drive. It's a bit like NYC's 7th avenue, with a bit more of high end Euro flair than NYC and even some California twists--whatever's hot and trending, all thrown together.

It always cracks me up to see that almost all the successful Asians in Atlanta don't drive Lexus or Infinity sports and luxury cars. They almost always prefer Mercedes, BMW, Porsche and Italian exotics.

But be they South, Central American, Asian or European women immigrants to the USA, unless kept shut in and away from the media, TV, internet, they're going to pick up on their new 'rights' eventually.
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« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2018, 10:30:12 PM »
Funny
I know of a few Colombianas that have a kid with a gringo specifically for money ,economIcs, property or a green card.

In fact, dont really see getting away from.that....


Any thing is possible I guess.


But I don't know any nor have a heard of any hot Colombian chicks that would have a child with a guy that they don't like on the hopes that that guy would set them up.


Now a semi attractive or older colombian that already has a child or two and anything is possible...because that really is a a desperate situation. Man ....just contemplating this kind of desperate scenario where a chick would have a child and have to care for it for 18 years just to get ahead makes me wonder who the hell you are hanging out with in Colombia anyway..jajaja


But the fact remains that any guy can walk away from any chick in Colombia and there is very little she can do about it.

Don't buy anything of real value in Colombia and you have nothing to lose. Cut her off any time you like. That is why so many chicks are scared to death to have a kid.


I have a friend that got nailed in a the U.S. by a chick he met on plenty of fish. LOL!


She was living on welfare and child support from the two kids she already had and he believed her when she said she was on the pill. jajaja


I can't believe he couldn't see this coming but now she has his kid and he is going to be paying her child support for the next 18 years whether he likes it or not. She messes with him all the time about when he can see his kid.


Low class women in the U.S. have kids all the time for child support and welfare. Colombianas have to beg borrow and steal to take care of their kids a lot of times.


I'm in the process of buying a another house right now and I'll be putting it an irrevocable trust after my daughter is born and making her the sole beneficiary. Not having anything in your name gives you an incredible amount of freedom. jajaja
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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2018, 09:12:49 AM »
When Colombians and other Latinos go to the US,
They become desperate just like gringos. Get thier US citezenship.and they virtually become gringos.

And the Comombianas turn into gringas...kinda


Clearly you've never met my wife. After 14 years in the US, she is as Colombian as the day I met her. Which has its good and bad points.

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« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2018, 10:17:16 AM »

Clearly you've never met my wife. After 14 years in the US, she is as Colombian as the day I met her. Which has its good and bad points.


Both of the colombian women I married and brought to the States went back to Colombia after we divorced.


Apparently the lifestyle of young hot Colombiana in Colombia beats that of working a low wage job in the U.S. jajaja

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« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2018, 12:38:44 PM »

Both of the colombian women I married and brought to the States went back to Colombia after we divorced.


Apparently the lifestyle of young hot Colombiana in Colombia beats that of working a low wage job in the U.S. jajaja

Depends on strata and adaptability..what I meant is they become a lot more uppity when there are more options available..

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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2018, 02:44:09 PM »
Sounds like you guys are each fishing very different waters. Even the babes I traveled to see and didn't go for were class acts. Heads screwed on pretty good, well educated and beautiful. Can't say if they'd have turned out half as well as my wife after a dozen years living and being successfully employed in the USA, but I sure as hell wasn't 'bottom fishing' when I set my nets out looking for women from the start.

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« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2018, 11:29:26 AM »
Take it from me honduras is as bad as it sounds. I was in bogota a few weeks ago... at least that city has no business on the list. Obviously we can tell that list is flat out wrong. Sadly tourist parts of MX have taken a turn for the worse while df remains safe. DF and bogota are just fine.

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« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2018, 05:49:01 AM »
Even Russell Wilson (the NFL Quarterback) married a (hot) girl who already had a kid with another guy.

On a flight to Colombia I was sitting next to a guy from the U.S. He had married a Colombiana about 25 years his junior. He brought her back to the U.S. with the fiancé visa, etc.

After they were married for a while she started asking for kids (even though he repeatedly told her before they got married that he didn't want any kids). Apparently, she had an affair with a co-worker (in the states) and confessed to him she couldn't be with him anymore because she really wanted a kid. So they got an amicable divorce and she moved in with and had a kid with the co-worker.

When I met him on the flight to Colombia, he had just retired and was moving full time to Bogota to be with some Colombiana about 30 years younger than him. Not sure what the financial arrangement was with the chick in Bogota....but at least the guy got smarter and was getting the hell out of the U.S.
If a colombiana doesn't already have a kid, especially a son, she wants one. And that is just about written in Stone. They believe a son will support them when they're old and alone, it's tradition.
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Re: Dangerous places? Colombia really that bad?
« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2018, 09:34:43 AM »
If a colombiana doesn't already have a kid, especially a son, she wants one. And that is just about written in Stone. They believe a son will support them when they're old and alone, it's tradition.


"Written in Stone" ha ha ha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZCG2Ex8Q0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZCG2Ex8Q0


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My favorite quotation from a movie  "Nothing is written"
 
 I met a 28 year old girl well adjusted, not a puta. She was operated, cant have kids. Has none now. She doesnt want them All types of women exist in Colombia, and they do things for all types of reasons. No use to generalize.

 
 Another thing. I know several cases where a guy has houses and property in Colombia, or even less, or for whatever reason, 401Ks , visa to the US , and the gal will get knocked up or want to have a kid.. for material reasons, no for love,
 
 
 If guys are so sure its "For Love" why the hell do they trust thier wives or whatever they think they need a DNA test to make sure the kid is theirs?..ja.jaj.ja
 
 
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