To those who've used Jamie's agency .... Latin-Wife

[Jedimaster]

I will admit that the girls on Jamie's site right now don't compare to the selection that was available when I first decided to go. As a matter of fact, that's what finally pushed me over the edge. After a couple of years of doubting and thinking and wondering, it got to the point where I told myself, "If just one of these girls are interested it would be worth the trip." I will say this: Jamie has an excellent camera. Top of the line even. Instead of revealing how attractive most of these women are, it insteads highlights each and every little flaw. Jamie is not running a modeling agency. There's no specialized lighting, makeup artist, or paint brushing of the pictures after the fact. However, I can assure you that if and when you actually touch down in Barranquilla you will not be dissapointed with the girls you meet there. Also, you are almost guaranteed to meet women that are not on the site. Some women don't want to be put on the internet but are very active in his agency. Others have joined but he doesn't have their photos or profiles on the site yet. Of course Jamie can't promise they'll want to meet you, so it makes sense he wouldn't even tell you about them. But I think any man on this site that has used his services can testify to the fact that they got some pleseant surprises in addition to the girls they knew they were going to meet. Most of the girls I chose before going turned me down. Out of about the 80 I showed interest in, only about 15-20 agreed to a date. Jamie promises 35-40 women for any client, and that's exactly what he delivered. Some of the girls I didn't pick showed up to meetings and I was very pleased to discover they were much more attractive than their pictures would have led anyone to believe (which is why I didn't choose them in the first place). To put it simply, IMHO the pictures of the women on Jamie's site do not do them justice. The one's you see you'd describe as "smoking hot" are much hotter than you'd ever imagine. Jamie offers clients the opportunity to meet real Colombian Women. If the hottest women in Colombia are what you're looking for, I'd recommend choosing another route. Fair warning though...exceptionally beautiful women in Colombia are for the most part no different from those in the U.S. Very high maintenance and most have nothing more to offer than their looks.
 
A gringo that's never been to the coast of Colombia wouldn't know better; but the girls in Jamie's agency are only the tip of the iceberg in Barranquilla. I've never, EVER met a gringo that regretted going, even if he didn't end up marrying a girl from Jamie's agency. I've personally recommended three friends that ended up using his services and married or not, they have always thanked me for sending them. Send me a PM for their contact info as they'd be happy to give you the details. The fact that you know Spanish only improves the odds that you'll meet someone you'll end up dating...whether they're with Jamie's Agency or not.
 
In the end it's all about taste. Costeñas are for the most part darker skinned women with physical characteristics that originate from African Slaves and the Native Tribes of South America. But there's a wide variety of women in Colombia. I've never been to Medellin, but I'd recommend that city to any man looking for the hottest women in the country. Jamie has never pretended to offer this. He runs a marriage agency. His goal is to introduce men to what could possibly be their future wives. Although looks are important, if you're wife-hunting, they should be one of the last in a long list of female characteristics. On average, any woman you're dating or eventually get married to from Colombia will be much more physically attractive than any woman you could marry in the states anyway. If your friend is not landing women in the states hotter than you see on Jamie's website, his opinion would be of no circumstance to me. It's always the ugliest, brokest, no personality having SOB's that have an opinion on which women are the hottest. Take the plunge, whether it's with Jamie or if you choose to do it yourself in Colombia in another city. You can thank me later.

While I agree with the "any woman you're dating will be more attractive than a states you would marry" statement, that sure is setting the bar low.  Truth be told, I believe that there are many places in Latin America that you could date a woman more attractive than a woman in the states.
 
I dont see how calling guys "ugly, broke SOB's" is productive or helpful.  I know that you are making a general statement here, but with that being said I believe that every guy is entitled to his opinion.

[benjio]

Jedi,
 
The point I was trying to make is ultimately a man has to be realistic. I've probably stayed at either Jamie's house in Salgar or his house in Barranquilla at least 10 times in the past. During this time, I've met dozens of gringos using his services. I think we all know the rules of dating well enough to look at a man physically, talk to him and get a sense of his personality, then accurately gauge how well he does with women. There is obviously the occasional exception, but I swear the nerdiness, weirdest most unattractive guys are ALWAYS the choosiest as soon as they touch down in Colombia. They always go straight for the hottest women initially and then wonder why they're being turned down. Can men like this land really hot women in Colombia? HELL YEAH they can, but they are almost always being used. Only those that quickly adjust their expectations are eventually successful in finding a good wife. This isn't setting the bar low. This is being realistic. Like I said, most of these guys still end up with women much more attractive than they would have ever landed in the states.
 
Jamie has an entire paragraph about this on his "Mistakes Men Make" page because it happens so often. "Colombia is not another planet where the rules of attraction do not apply."
 
Also, as I mentioned, when a man is truly looking for a woman that will eventually make a good wife in Latin America, please, please, PLEASE believe me when I say that landing a 10 should not be his highest priority. Nothing wrong with not settling for women that aren't attractive, but this shouldn't be the standard by which a gringo decides on who he should and shouldn't date. I've been dating in Latin America for a little more than 4 years now. I've spent time with several women that could easily be supermodels or movie stars. There's only one I would have married, and I screwed that up myself. Exceptionally beautiful women have usually been that way all their lives. They have usually always received preferential treatment from others because of they way they look. It gets to a point where they begin to subconsciously expect this from everyone. This makes them more spoiled and selfish than the average woman IMHO. If you haven't realized this, you haven't dated enough really attractive women. I'm not saying that every extremely beautiful woman in Colombia would be a bad wife; but I am saying the ones that would make good wives are very few and far between. They are also very choosey. Very few beautiful women anywhere in the world would lower their standards to be with a man that's both unattractive and broke. They know they can do better. What you're saying about men not lowering their standards in Colombia works both ways. Attractive Latinas know their value in Latin America just as much as gringos do. When you see normal looking, older men with hot, young women in Latin America, it's usually a sugardaddy type of relationship. Sorry, but that's just the way things work. There are too many 7's and 8's in Colombia that would be great wives for a man to rule them out just because he sees women that are prettier. And again, like I said, most 7's and 8's by Colombian Standards are easily 10's in the United States.

[Hector_Lavoe]

So, I'm asking - to any of the guys who used this agency.  Were you finding the same - that is, did you think the women you met, etc., that the ladies were not as attractive as you were expecting?   Or were they more attractive in person?  Does Jamie have other ladies in his agency who don't ever appear on his website? 

Ricardo:  I used Jamie's agency on my first and only trip to Colombia (so far) in 2011.  My experience was that there are far MORE ladies who look WORSE in person than those who look BETTER in person.  This is NO DIFFERENT than any online dating website here in the United States.  I've met countless women through online dating sites in the USA and found women are very gifted at making themseleves look good for the camera.  Some are just downright scary good at it.  Colombianas are no different. 
 
But I also must say that when I went to Jamie's there were a FEW women who did look better in person.  This included the gal I spent most of my time with.  In her photos she was borderline attractive to me. In person I thought she looked very good. She was the exception to the rule.  And for several of my top picks, I was simply not attracted to them in person (talking purely physical attraction here).  But that is the way it is going to break no matter where you meet girls FIRST via an online photo.   
 
 

  Does Jamie have other ladies in his agency who don't ever appear on his website? 

Jamie did offer up one gal's profile to me who was not in his published online database. I thought she was attractive but I turned down meeting her because she had a kid.  I have no kids and that was a dealbreaker for me.
 
Bottom line:  I only met two girls at Jamie's who I thought were physically attractive enough to me to spark a romantic relationship with.  All it takes is one gal for the serious wife hunter.  But for roughly $1,400 or $1,500 one would hope for 4 or 5 really cute ones to start with.  By the way, I would not consider the two girls I did like out of my league at all. So I don't believe I was being overly selective.
 
Of course, YOU might do better and get more of your top picks to agree to meet with you. This is the problem CaliPro mentioned in an earlier post.  I would much prefer Jamie allowing me to do what CaliPro did: send Jamie $xx to shoot my profile to 10 gals I really liked to see if they were interested.  Don't think he does this anymore.
 
My next trip to Colombia (or South America in general) will likely be to a different city (and agency if I use one).  Jamie is an honest broker but the results were too subpar for me to return to his agency on my NEXT TRIP.  Yes, I would never rule out trying his agency again.  But I would most likely try several other avenues before heading back.
 
As others have stated, try building contacts OUTSIDE the agency scene.  Tough to do from far away.....but worth it.
 
 
 

[Zon]

Also, as I mentioned, when a man is truly looking for a woman that will eventually make a good wife in Latin America, please, please, PLEASE believe me when I say that landing a 10 should not be his highest priority. Nothing wrong with not settling for women that aren't attractive, but this shouldn't be the standard by which a gringo decides on who he should and shouldn't date. I've been dating in Latin America for a little more than 4 years now. I've spent time with several women that could easily be supermodels or movie stars. There's only one I would have married, and I screwed that up myself. Exceptionally beautiful women have usually been that way all their lives. They have usually always received preferential treatment from others because of they way they look. It gets to a point where they begin to subconsciously expect this from everyone. This makes them more spoiled and selfish than the average woman IMHO. If you haven't realized this, you haven't dated enough really attractive women. I'm not saying that every extremely beautiful woman in Colombia would be a bad wife; but I am saying the ones that would make good wives are very few and far between. They are also very choosey. Very few beautiful women anywhere in the world would lower their standards to be with a man that's both unattractive and broke. They know they can do better. What you're saying about men not lowering their standards in Colombia works both ways. Attractive Latinas know their value in Latin America just as much as gringos do. When you see normal looking, older men with hot, young women in Latin America, it's usually a sugardaddy type of relationship. Sorry, but that's just the way things work. There are too many 7's and 8's in Colombia that would be great wives for a man to rule them out just because he sees women that are prettier. And again, like I said, most 7's and 8's by Colombian Standards are easily 10's in the United States.

Truer words have never been spoken.  If you want a 10 - play.  Anything serious, go for the 6 - 7 - 8 on the outside / 10's on the inside  (which are STILL hot and beautiful - especially if 10 - 20 years younger!)


It's a NO brainer

[benjio]

Ricardo:  I used Jamie's agency on my first and only trip to Colombia (so far) in 2011.  My experience was that there are far MORE ladies who look WORSE in person than those who look BETTER in person.  This is NO DIFFERENT than any online dating website here in the United States.  I've met countless women through online dating sites in the USA and found women are very gifted at making themseleves look good for the camera.  Some are just downright scary good at it.  Colombianas are no different. 
 
But I also must say that when I went to Jamie's there were a FEW women who did look better in person.  This included the gal I spent most of my time with.  In her photos she was borderline attractive to me. In person I thought she looked very good. She was the exception to the rule.  And for several of my top picks, I was simply not attracted to them in person (talking purely physical attraction here).  But that is the way it is going to break no matter where you meet girls FIRST via an online photo.   
 
 Jamie did offer up one gal's profile to me who was not in his published online database. I thought she was attractive but I turned down meeting her because she had a kid.  I have no kids and that was a dealbreaker for me.
 
Bottom line:  I only met two girls at Jamie's who I thought were physically attractive enough to me to spark a romantic relationship with.  All it takes is one gal for the serious wife hunter.  But for roughly $1,400 or $1,500 one would hope for 4 or 5 really cute ones to start with.  By the way, I would not consider the two girls I did like out of my league at all. So I don't believe I was being overly selective.
 
Of course, YOU might do better and get more of your top picks to agree to meet with you. This is the problem CaliPro mentioned in an earlier post.  I would much prefer Jamie allowing me to do what CaliPro did: send Jamie $xx to shoot my profile to 10 gals I really liked to see if they were interested.  Don't think he does this anymore.
 
My next trip to Colombia (or South America in general) will likely be to a different city (and agency if I use one).  Jamie is an honest broker but the results were too subpar for me to return to his agency on my NEXT TRIP.  Yes, I would never rule out trying his agency again.  But I would most likely try several other avenues before heading back.
 
As others have stated, try building contacts OUTSIDE the agency scene.  Tough to do from far away.....but worth it.

Hector,
 
If you know Spanish fluently give the Coffee Triangle Area of Colombia a try. As a gringo your stock is much higher there. Colombianas along the coast, in Medellin, Bogota and Cali are too use to seeing gringos. The most beautiful women at Jamie's are constantly being contacted by gringos and receiving invitations to meet foreigners, so they know they can afford to be choosey. When they look at your picture, if they see one thing they don't like, they'll usually turn down the invite. Most won't even bother to read your profile if they aren't instantly physcially attracted to you. Before I went to Jamie's the first time, there were two women I was very attracted to on the site, but they both stated they were only interested in white men. So obviously I didn't bother requesting to meet them. When I actually got to Barranquilla, I met them both in passing and they asked my translator about meeting me. As Cali was suggesting, just goes to show you how different the situation may be when you're actually put in front of them.
 
In cities like Pereira, Palmira, Armenia and Neiva, you would still be considered exotic, and therefore automatically interesting to most women. Also lots of the 10's walking around these cities that everyone hear apparently thinks they're entitled to because they jumped on a plane. No agencies though...you'd have to do all the footwork yourself after making some contacts online.

[Alabamaboy!]

I originally was introduced to my wife through Jamies. I used his service and for me, a guy who loves morenas, I was very happy. Lots of girls looked much better in person than in their photos. I would say if you like triguenas or morenas you will be very happy with Jamies. The girls seemed pretty home loving and "descomplicada" for the most part.

I have not heard of too many guys leaving unsatisfied from Jamies place. Maybe only the ones who directly went against his advice or were thinking with the wrong head. But if your head is screwed on right and you have already had your dating fun and are past the "kid in the candy store" phase, I think you will have good success there.

[Hector_Lavoe]

Hector,
 
If you know Spanish fluently give the Coffee Triangle Area of Colombia a try. As a gringo your stock is much higher there. Colombianas along the coast, in Medellin, Bogota and Cali are too use to seeing gringos. The most beautiful women at Jamie's are constantly being contacted by gringos and receiving invitations to meet foreigners, so they know they can afford to be choosey. When they look at your picture, if they see one thing they don't like, they'll usually turn down the invite. Most won't even bother to read your profile if they aren't instantly physcially attracted to you. Before I went to Jamie's the first time, there were two women I was very attracted to on the site, but they both stated they were only interested in white men. So obviously I didn't bother requesting to meet them. When I actually got to Barranquilla, I met them both in passing and they asked my translator about meeting me. As Cali was suggesting, just goes to show you how different the situation may be when you're actually put in front of them.
 
In cities like Pereira, Palmira, Armenia and Neiva, you would still be considered exotic, and therefore automatically interesting to most women. Also lots of the 10's walking around these cities that everyone hear apparently thinks they're entitled to because they jumped on a plane. No agencies though...you'd have to do all the footwork yourself after making some contacts online.

Benjio:  Thanks for the tip regarding the Coffee Triangle.  Other than Jamie's I did not see many gringos in Barranqilla. I did meet some nice ladies while out in public be it at the mall or walking down the street (even got a few numbers).  I always do better in person anyway but it is tough when you are only there for a week at a time.  Wish I could be in your shoes living and working down in S.A.

[buencamino]

I think if I were up for being "pre-screened" by the ladies I would just go with Colombian Cupid or the like. I mean they can look at your profile when you message or initiate chat with the ones you choose and either accept communication with you or "screen" you out. There is also a vastly bigger pool to choose from than any agency offers. I don't see what the benifit would be using an agency unless you have to have a translator when you meet a girl in person.

[benjio]

I think if I were up for being "pre-screened" by the ladies I would just go with Colombian Cupid or the like. I mean they can look at your profile when you message or initiate chat with the ones you choose and either accept communication with you or "screen" you out. There is also a vastly bigger pool to choose from than any agency offers. I don't see what the benifit would be using an agency unless you have to have a translator when you meet a girl in person.

I agree....especially if a guy speaks Spanish fluently. Only downside to using Colombian Cupid is the flakiness of Colombian Women. For every single woman from Cupido I've actually met in person, 10 have flaked on me in one way or another. To be honest, my "no-show" percentage is actually lower with girls I've met off LatinEuro. Whether or not they were who they presented themselves to be on the site after we eventually met is a different story altogether. Match point...Colombian Cupid! 

So sure...you can decide on a city. Make 5 contacts before going and inform them of when you're going to arrive to make plans well in advance. Then you actually get there and every single one of them are nowhere to be found. Believe me, I've seen this happen before. Jamie will put women in front of you...guaranteed. You don't want to use one of his translators? Don't! He won't care either way. Most of the cost associated with using his services have to do with him ensuring you get what you pay for. This requires him paying employees to "babysit" women up until the point you actually meet them. It's not that the women in his agency aren't interested in meeting gringos. Jamie's agency has hundreds if not thousands of marriages to their credit. But the average Costena has a serious lack focus and their perception of time and the respect of the time of others is completely different from our own. If you're not someone like me that travels to Colombia on the companies dime, or someone like CaliPro or Mickey that's staying their full time, you're taking a huge gamble that you'll have a decent amount of women to date once you actually get there. I think everyone here can agree that traveling to meet one woman is a BIG NO-NO! If you're going with the Colombian Cupid route make sure you have at least 20 girls that have agreed to meet you in person. Also, get away from online chat as quickly as possible and start calling them over the phone. If anything fishy is going on, it will be much easier to detect with frequent phone calls as supposed to MSN or Skype.

But then there's always just walking up to girls...which works pretty well from my experience. Pick your poison.

[Zon]

But then there's always just walking up to girls...which works pretty well from my experience.

DON'T FEED THE ALLIGATORS ...that's what the sign reads.   WHY?  Because they lose their fear (respect) and they get too close, too often, for the purpose of taking advantage (food).  In Florida, we do not want alligators turning into seagulls.

The same is true with women.

The women in agencies and on dating sites that are seeking foreign men (if they are attractive) they get tons of attention - the online auction.  So, the entire relationship building dynamic is changed.  In Latin America, I strongly prefer real world meetings over agencies and online services.

[Gato4Astrid]

Many years ago, when I first join eBay business, I had 2 listings selling exactly the same item (List A & List B) with starting price £9.99


At the end of the duration (for example)
List A:  1 bid sold for £9.99
List B:  12 bid sold for £25.00




Why can't they bid on List A?  Much cheaper for exactly the same item.


Unfortunately due to customers behaviour, they liked to win the bid!




I would expect the same if you had online auction with ladies even if List A & B are identical twins!!

[buencamino]

Benijo certainly have to agree about the flakiness of the women but then you said even your agency has to babysit them. I have to say though that I've had very good luck meeting girls from Colombian Cupid and believe it or not have only been stood up a couple of times. Of course I would never go to a date unless the girl had given me her phone number and we made the date by phone. If a girl says she wants to see me but doesn't give me her number I stop right there. I've actually met quite a few from that site in person. The problem is they often come up with photos that make them look ten times better (and slimmer) than they do in person. Some of them will put up four or five photos of a very pretty face but no full body shot. You can pretty much always pass on those. That said it's true you have to initiate contact with a lot before you come accross one that will make a date with you though I've even had some young very good looking ones initiate contact with me and carry through with an in person date. Back to the agency thing each to his own I guess but I wouldn't be very interested in spending a lot of money and having women I didn't choose "put in front" of me especially if like some others here I found very few on the website appealing. Must work for some guys though.

[mambocowboy]

Benijo certainly have to agree about the flakiness of the women but then you said even your agency has to babysit them. I have to say though that I've had very good luck meeting girls from Colombian Cupid and believe it or not have only been stood up a couple of times. Of course I would never go to a date unless the girl had given me her phone number and we made the date by phone. If a girl says she wants to see me but doesn't give me her number I stop right there. I've actually met quite a few from that site in person. The problem is they often come up with photos that make them look ten times better (and slimmer) than they do in person. Some of them will put up four or five photos of a very pretty face but no full body shot. You can pretty much always pass on those. That said it's true you have to initiate contact with a lot before you come accross one that will make a date with you though I've even had some young very good looking ones initiate contact with me and carry through with an in person date. Back to the agency thing each to his own I guess but I wouldn't be very interested in spending a lot of money and having women I didn't choose "put in front" of me especially if like some others here I found very few on the website appealing. Must work for some guys though.

I first corresponded with my wife on latinamericancupid, wrote only her, visited only her, now we're married. Huge risk I know, but worked out for me.

[V_Man]

I first corresponded with my wife on latinamericancupid, wrote only her, visited only her, now we're married. Huge risk I know, but worked out for me.

The first girl I wrote to on ColombianCupid was the only one I went to Colombia to meet. It is working out better than I could have hoped for. We are getting married very soon. Huge risk I know, but worked out for me too.

[Gato4Astrid]

The first girl I wrote to on ColombianCupid was the only one I went to Colombia to meet. It is working out better than I could have hoped for. We are getting married very soon. Huge risk I know, but worked out for me too.

No, because you haven't married to her yet!

[bcc_1_2]

I thought the same thing. A long time ago when I was browsing I only saw a couple women on there I would be really eager to meet so I couldn't justify the cost. Plus I could care less about staying by the beach. But another good point has been made about the laws of attraction. I suspect compared to the ex-gringas a lot of guys have gotten away from... they are making a big upgrade in the looks department at Jamie's.
give honduras a look... http://www.amorsi.com/AmorPhotoAlbumShow.asp

[whitey]

The first girl I wrote to on ColombianCupid was the only one I went to Colombia to meet. It is working out better than I could have hoped for. We are getting married very soon. Huge risk I know, but worked out for me too.

Only one woman for me too ....

[whitey]

I thought the same thing. A long time ago when I was browsing I only saw a couple women on there I would be really eager to meet so I couldn't justify the cost. Plus I could care less about staying by the beach. But another good point has been made about the laws of attraction. I suspect compared to the ex-gringas a lot of guys have gotten away from... they are making a big upgrade in the looks department at Jamie's.
give honduras a look... http://www.amorsi.com/AmorPhotoAlbumShow.asp

Looked through the first few pages ... some nice looking women.  However, most appear to be wearing a bathing suit or some other top revealing a lot of cleavage.  Not sure what the culture is like in Honduras, but as "passionate" as the women are in Colombia, those kind of pictures scream prepago or interesada and I wouldn't even consider a colombiana who would post photos like that.  Facebook, however, is a whole different thing ... but a dating site ... red flag!

[bcc_1_2]

I think the agency encourages the swimsuits... I wouldn't read much into it.

[Calipro]

Looked through the first few pages ... some nice looking women.  However, most appear to be wearing a bathing suit or some other top revealing a lot of cleavage.  Not sure what the culture is like in Honduras, but as "passionate" as the women are in Colombia, those kind of pictures scream prepago or interesada and I wouldn't even consider a colombiana who would post photos like that.  Facebook, however, is a whole different thing ... but a dating site ... red flag!

Most of the women on the website are from Colombia or other countries other than Honduras.


Could be the whole site is a scam but the notion that prepagos would waste their time joining a marriage agency is mostly a myth....unless of course they are ready to settle down. jajaja

[benjio]

...the notion that prepagos would waste their time joining a marriage agency is mostly a myth....unless of course they are ready to settle down. jajaja

I most definitely disagree, and I have personal experience and the experiences of a few other gringos to back that claim up. It's called free advertising.

[Calipro]

I most definitely disagree, and I have personal experience and the experiences of a few other gringos to back that claim up. It's called free advertising.

It isn't free....she has to get up get dress and go meet a guy that most likely isn't even interested in meeting a prepago....if she has that much time on her hands she should probably find another line of work.


 No doubt,,,, there are plenty with a plan B....but outright prepagos are few and far between. Over a ten year period of contact with marriage agencies in Cali I only met one women that was actually only interested in sex for money and nothing else.....met approx. half a dozen that worked as prepagos but were actually interested in finding a husband when they came to the agency.


One thing I'm absolutely sure of  is...... there were many more women in marriage agencies that complained that gringos propositioned them .....than gringos complaining that the women wanted money to get down to business.

[bcc_1_2]

First, I believe there are more women from Honduras on there than anywhere else. And there are a lot of cute women from Honduras on there. There are quite a few from Colombia... in fact there is a cutie on there right now from BAQ... who it seems would rather be on Amor Si than go with a local agency.
There is a real "9" on there from El Salvador for anyone with the pebbles to actually fly there. A 23 year old girl that doesn't do the nighlife scene and likes to collect ballpoint pens lol.

[benjio]

bcc,

Have you actually met any women from this website?

[bcc_1_2]

No, I have married a girl from Honduras though. The website is run by a European guy and his local wife. They are based in Siguatepeque.