To those who've used Jamie's agency .... Latin-Wife

[defenderofzon]

  I think you should go back to the other forum you are on loser!

I see you kept it safe by only writing one short sentence, with basically one syllable words.  Good job.  My only surprise is you spelled "loser" correctly.

[defenderofzon]

Ha!  Well defender of zon, i think your name should be Anti-fathertime, i did not read any defense of zon.  Based on the specifics you chose to write about, you can be one of about 5 people.  If you continue to be cautious I probably won’t be able to narrow it any further, not that it matters much. 
I must say, those charges were entertaining.  I think it would be nice if you were to expound some on all these insecurities that you are convinced I have.  The biggest insecurity I can think of is that things won’t always be as good as they are now and one day it will all end through death/disability etc, but aside from that infrequent thought,  I feel pretty good about my choices and life overall, and why shouldn’t I? 



you certainly have deserved the crap you have taken but it doesn't have anything to do with you being 'direct' 


Fathertime!

Well, just remember, the best defense is a good offense.  And yes, it matters to you fathertime, very much.  Now is your mind not only occupied with Zon, but with Defender of Zon.

[Zon]

Well now, this has degenerated into a messy name calling contest, which is the only thing this place does well and consistently.

I have done some things in the past that some of you disapprove of.   Maybe I have been too blunt, and not politically correct - insensitive at times. 

I come here to stay in touch with life in Colombia mostly. 

I would PREFER for people to allow the past be in the past.  I would PREFER for posters to overlook their many differences in favor of the one topic that can be shared.   But,  I do not give a crap about being liked by any of you.   You can call me names, and I will comment on the noticeable ABSENCE of your sharing and transparency (it is easy to pretend to be an expert when you only wear a mask). 

The only thing I object to is when dislike turns into a whisper campaign that suggests (gleefully) maybe wrongful deeds.   That is exactly what your modern society does to men - very feminine.

[defenderofzon]

Well now, this has degenerated into a messy name calling contest, which is the only thing this place does well and consistently.

I have done some things in the past that some of you disapprove of.   Maybe I have been too blunt, and not politically correct - insensitive at times. 

I come here to stay in touch with life in Colombia mostly. 

I would PREFER for people to allow the past be in the past.  I would PREFER for posters to overlook their many differences in favor of the one topic that can be shared.   But,  I do not give a crap about being liked by any of you.   You can call me names, and I will comment on the noticeable ABSENCE of your sharing and transparency (it is easy to pretend to be an expert when you only wear a mask). 

The only thing I object to is when dislike turns into a whisper campaign that suggests (gleefully) maybe wrongful deeds.   That is exactly what your modern society does to men - very feminine.

Very nice post my friend, and yes there is little constructive sharing from fathertime regarding his alledged successful marriage to a Colombiana.  The only things that come to mind are:  the fact she wouldn't even kiss him for weeks after they met, his disdain for any type of latin music in his home, the fact that she can't go anywhere without him chauferring her around (read: doesn't trust her out of his view), he has only taken her out on the town once since they have been married, and the extent of her social life is her webcam chatting with her sister and mother.  Now, these are things that have been garnished from his posts, they all can be found in the archives.  Sounds like a miserable existence to me.  Now, unless fathertime wants to share some more experiences, we will be forced to read his missives in the form of attacks on Zon, and these thoughts that seem to occupy most of his waking hours. Not much time left for him to pay attention to his hunnybun.
Defender of Zon

[fathertime]

Very nice post my friend, and yes there is little constructive sharing from fathertime regarding his alledged successful marriage to a Colombiana.  The only things that come to mind are:  the fact she wouldn't even kiss him for weeks after they met, his disdain for any type of latin music in his home, the fact that she can't go anywhere without him chauferring her around (read: doesn't trust her out of his view), he has only taken her out on the town once since they have been married, and the extent of her social life is her webcam chatting with her sister and mother.  Now, these are things that have been garnished from his posts, they all can be found in the archives.  Sounds like a miserable existence to me.  Now, unless fathertime wants to share some more experiences, we will be forced to read his missives in the form of attacks on Zon, and these thoughts that seem to occupy most of his waking hours. Not much time left for him to pay attention to his hunnybun.
Defender of Zon

More entertaining tidbits.  It has been a while since i've had a little pet around.  I like the challenge when i have been able to force somebody to take another name here just for me.  Go on now lets hear more, just be careful you wouldn't want anybody to ascertain who you really were/are! Still no defense of zon though? 

Well, just remember, the best defense is a good offense.  And yes, it matters to you fathertime, very much.  Now is your mind not only occupied with Zon, but with Defender of Zon.

Wow what an ímpressive' strategy that never had a chance of working!  Lesson one for my pet, Don't give away your 'strategy', not that i believe you anyway.

      Good ol' Zon, still the same stuff. Who says they prefer "canned truth"? To many of us this "truth" you are talking about is very basic knowledge and we treat it as such: Truth: Not all foreign women are wife material. That is like telling any human the sky is blue. OK blue sky, now what? One would think someone with as much experience in other lands, as yourself, would have already moved past the very basics.

   
   

Oh come on Researcher, zon's 'truth'about colombian women are groundbreaking, new, and 'profound'insights.  All of us guys married to Colombian women don't know much about the real Colombian women!


Fathertime! 

[Zon]

What started out to me as an off the cuff statement, has grown into a big RED FLAG.

why is it that some of you have posted THOUSANDS of comments, opinions, reports ... but, virtually NONE of you post even the most basic representations of who you are - thus giving a frame of reference?

Especially, given that most of you have a tendency to insult and call names?   At first it seemed a little lacking, then cowardly ... but, now it is growing to be something more suspicious.

[Zon]

COULD IT BE ...

Here is one of my favorite photos from a Colombian Marriage Agency.  (Nothing odd here! LOL)

[defenderofzon]

More entertaining tidbits.  It has been a while since i've had a little pet around.  I like the challenge when i have been able to force somebody to take another name here just for me.  Go on now lets hear more, just be careful you wouldn't want anybody to ascertain who you really were/are! Still no defense of zon though? 

Wow what an ímpressive' strategy that never had a chance of working!  Lesson one for my pet, Don't give away your 'strategy', not that i believe you anyway.

Oh come on Researcher, zon's 'truth'about colombian women are groundbreaking, new, and 'profound'insights.  All of us guys married to Colombian women don't know much about the real Colombian women!


Fathertime!

There is no reason to post anymore, everything is in the archives. And you haven't forced me to take any name, My monikker here is Defender of Zon, that has nothing to do with you. So please, don't let that bald dome expand too much with what you think might be flattery.  After all, with your looks and insecurities you'll try to fish for any compliment you can get. And as far as me being a "pet" of yours. No, my follically challenged friend, I am just another male obsession of yours to add to your list.
 

[Zon]

Encore performance .... There are times when I wonder if I met Researcher, Fuzzy, et al  (actually, I think one of you may be THIS guy).    I was pretty blunt - direct - a couple years back.  Here was the look on his face when I said - "Dude, do you really think you belong with THAT woman?"  Real photo.  Real situation.  Which is much more than Fuzzy; FT; Researcher ever come close to.    (Sorry if I offended.)

But, I still have not heard the slightest justification from FO why the vendetta?  How do you feel justified not only in an insult, but to imply criminal activity of some sort?!?    Is this all just an never ending game?  What makes you think you can judge me out of thin air - repeatedly; for years?   

Do you have an answer for this ...

[fathertime]

There is no reason to post anymore, everything is in the archives. And you haven't forced me to take any name, My monikker here is Defender of Zon, that has nothing to do with you. So please, don't let that bald dome expand too much with what you think might be flattery.  After all, with your looks and insecurities you'll try to fish for any compliment you can get. And as far as me being a "pet" of yours. No, my follically challenged friend, I am just another male obsession of yours to add to your list.

I don’t know why my pet is so testy, it is obvious you have been forced to post under a username other than one you have used in the past!  It seems you have been waiting a long time to finally get your chance at old FT, so then doing under a secondary name is undoubtedly weak, but it is obviously your decision.  What are you so scared of?
    Still no defense of zon though, so It seems more fitting that you post under Anti-Fathertime!  Well where are all those ‘insecurities’ of mine that you were so anxious to talk about? 

What started out to me as an off the cuff statement, has grown into a big RED FLAG.

why is it that some of you have posted THOUSANDS of comments, opinions, reports ... but, virtually NONE of you post even the most basic representations of who you are - thus giving a frame of reference?

Especially, given that most of you have a tendency to insult and call names?   At first it seemed a little lacking, then cowardly ... but, now it is growing to be something more suspicious.

Well zon, I have posted probably a dozen photos in the past on this website and to members, and I'm sure a few of them are still in the archives with my head on a cow's body or something like that.  Just because YOU are dying of curiosity and demanding to see photos does not mean anybody is under any obligation to provide them to you. 


And yes it is not very nice to post a photo of that man with his wife/girlfriend, even if you find it funny and something worth laughing at.  Hey there is a chance that some of us could look similar to that man and his wife/girlfriend
and still have a very good and loving marriage!  And you wonder why you specifically are not given photos to look at!  I doubt you had that man's permission to post his photo and you also invaded the innocent colombian woman's privacy too, which I'm sure you don't think is very valuable.
Fathertime!

[Zon]

And yes it is not very nice to post a photo of that man with his wife/girlfriend, even if you find it funny and something worth laughing at.  Hey there is a chance that some of us could look similar to that man and his wife/girlfriend  nd still have a very good and loving marriage!  And you wonder why you specifically are not given photos to look at!  I doubt you had that man's permission to post his photo and you also invaded the innocent colombian woman's privacy too, which I'm sure you don't think is very valuable.[size=78%] [/size]
Fathertime!

NICE!?!?!?

You think it is "nice" for MEN to wage a whisper campaign with inferences of criminal activity against me?!?!?!  Discussion boards are poor places for cross examination.  WTF.  Where is your balance and sobriety.

And, I have never seen one photo of you, but I have heard you post much about others.  Same with Researcher and Fuzzy.   I am 100% certain that none of you will ever step one foot outside your comfortable masks, so we are left to imagine.

And, you are wise to stay away from charges and claims.  As I have proven a million times you can not disprove a negative on a discussion board.  Just the claim, or appearance is enough to create a kind of truth.   So, does you wife have a driver's license?  How does this defender have first hand information about you?  Seems like you pissed in his coffee, or wronged him ...

[innerperson]

COULD IT BE ...

Here is one of my favorite photos from a Colombian Marriage Agency.  (Nothing odd here! LOL)

I can see why you have problems finding honest women that are interested in long term relationships with you.

[Zon]

I can see why you have problems finding honest women that are interested in long term relationships with you.

Join the FANTASY LAND of FatherTime; Fuzzy; and Researcher pal.    I know, and am friends with, MANY people who own and work in marriage agencies - they think the same way I do.  Where does that leave you?

And, by the way ...  I really do suspect Fuzzy is that guy in the photo.  Call it a hunch

[innerperson]

Join the FANTASY LAND of FatherTime; Fuzzy; and Researcher pal.    I know, and am friends with many people who own and work in marriage agencies - they think the same way I do.  Where does that leave you?

That leaves me as a guy who dates great women and has no problem finding honest women.  Must be doing something right, pal.

[fathertime]

NICE!?!?!?

You think it is "nice" for MEN to wage a whisper campaign with inferences of criminal activity against me?!?!?!  Discussion boards are poor places for cross examination.  WTF.  Where is your balance and sobriety.

And, I have never seen one photo of you, but I have heard you post much about others.  Same with Researcher and Fuzzy.   I am 100% certain that none of you will ever step one foot outside your comfortable masks, so we are left to imagine.

And, you are wise to stay away from charges and claims.  As I have proven a million times you can not disprove a negative on a discussion board.  Just the claim, or appearance is enough to create a kind of truth.   So, does you wife have a driver's license?  How does this defender have first hand information about you?  Seems like you pissed in his coffee, or wronged him ...

Regardless of your demands, nobody is under any obligation to provide you a photo of themselves or their spouses.  You have chosen to litter the internet with photos of yourself, but not everyone is going to be as foolish as you.  I've already told you that most members that have been posting a long time have seen my wife and I.  You have already made a mockery of those innocent bystanders in the photo you posted, it would be unwise for you to be provided with any further photos.
I've pissed in a lot of people's cheerios, [size=78%] [/size]and there is a lot of first hand information I've posted about, you just seem to a little too incompetent to find it!

Join the FANTASY LAND of FatherTime; Fuzzy; and Researcher pal.    I know, and am friends with many people who own and work in marriage agencies - they think the same way I do.  Where does that leave you?

Where it has left you is sleeping alone, brooding, and fantasizing about having a latina!

Fathertime!   

[fathertime]

And, by the way ...  I really do suspect Fuzzy is that guy in the photo.  Call it a hunch

..and if it was Fuzzyone in the photo you would think it is FUNNY or something worth giggling about?  I'd be slapping the guy five, for 8 years of marriage with a babe!
 That old guy in the photo that may have married that babe and that you continue to mock is someone you should seek advice from.  You haven't been able to put together a relationship with any latina for more than a week, before the ladies run for cover, you have never learned how to take care of a woman I guess.  Too encompassed with yourself.  [size=78%]  [/size]


Fathertime! 

[Fuzzyone]

I see you kept it safe by only writing one short sentence, with basically one syllable words.  Good job.  My only surprise is you spelled "loser" correctly.

   Actually I keep my sentences short with you because you do have a limited attention span and I want to mack sure you can digest everything I am telling you.

[Fuzzyone]

What started out to me as an off the cuff statement, has grown into a big RED FLAG.

why is it that some of you have posted THOUSANDS of comments, opinions, reports ... but, virtually NONE of you post even the most basic representations of who you are - thus giving a frame of reference?

Especially, given that most of you have a tendency to insult and call names?   At first it seemed a little lacking, then cowardly ... but, now it is growing to be something more suspicious.

   Again Zon you seem to be attempting to steer yourself out of another fix you are in. I never really heard your defense of a video that was posted in Aug 2012 of you and your business dealings?

[fathertime]

   Again Zon you seem to be attempting to steer yourself out of another fix you are in. I never really heard your defense of a video that was posted in Aug 2012 of you and your business dealings?

The ironic thing is that the  persons zon is targeting in his video is the very same person he went and posted a picture of and mocked here publicly.  An innocent guy who had probably never even posted here.  Wow what a great 'businessman' this zon character is! Lets see how the new ántifathertime contorts and 'defends'   him on that one!


Fathertime! 

[Fuzzyone]

Encore performance .... There are times when I wonder if I met Researcher, Fuzzy, et al  (actually, I think one of you may be THIS guy).    I was pretty blunt - direct - a couple years back.  Here was the look on his face when I said - "Dude, do you really think you belong with THAT woman?"  Real photo.  Real situation.  Which is much more than Fuzzy; FT; Researcher ever come close to.    (Sorry if I offended.)

But, I still have not heard the slightest justification from FO why the vendetta?  How do you feel justified not only in an insult, but to imply criminal activity of some sort?!?    Is this all just an never ending game?  What makes you think you can judge me out of thin air - repeatedly; for years?   

Do you have an answer for this ...

   Well lets twist this another way.... A certain guy shows up on forums to ask guys about certain countries to see what they are like. You could think of it as trying to gain information so he can open up certain business ventures. What better way to pretend you are looking for love and pretend you really know nothing of the country. Finally when it comes out that this clown really is investing in porn and what better way then to go to poor 3rd world countries. Well to make a long story short this guy get driven from each forum as the members realize what he really is up to.


   The entire story gets better because the guy will cry, whine that he is doing nothing wrong so what is the problem, but the real problem is he changes his story every time someone calls him on it. You can find a video of him stating exactly what he has been doing and changes his story slightly to try cover his tracks again.


   No wonder according to this guy most of these woman are unfaithful? Right Zon?? Right? I will tell you I love that A.J. he just makes you look like the biggest piece of crap on earth with those videos.

[Fuzzyone]

Join the FANTASY LAND of FatherTime; Fuzzy; and Researcher pal.    I know, and am friends with, MANY people who own and work in marriage agencies - they think the same way I do.  Where does that leave you?

And, by the way ...  I really do suspect Fuzzy is that guy in the photo.  Call it a hunch

  Hey nice attempt to try deflecting some of the criticism that everyone is leveling at you. You really have no grounds to judge that old guy because I too have met many older men with younger woman in Colombia. If that is what the girl wants then more power to her. I think now we should get back to you and your problem of low self esteem. I notice it is very hard for you to let the fact go that you have been caught in your B.S. lies. I want to ask what do you think of Calipro chasing after young woman? I mean that photo could be of him as far as we know. It seems you are blasting the poor guy that you in post before wanted to hold his jock strap.


   The man here that is in Fantasy land is you! Guess what DING DONG YOU HAVE BEEN CAUGHT WITH YOUR LIES, TIME TO MOVE TO ANOTHER FORUM WHERE THE GUYS HAVE NOT CAUGHT ON TO YOU YET!!!!

[Zon]

Again Zon you seem to be attempting to steer yourself out of another fix you are in. I never really heard your defense of a video that was posted in Aug 2012 of you and your business dealings?

Why do you think you are entitled to any greater explanation than that I have already given?  I  have already been FAR more transparent than any one else here - by a mile.   If I answer one, another will arise, and another, and another. 

Today, I spent all day in a recording room cutting promo videos with some of the biggest adult web sites.  The subjects were all sensual and provocative.  At the first of the year, I will be doing much live radio - a brand new round of marketing and PR that likely will make what I have done in the past look small.  .... and I bet you a dollar, some of the material will be controversial  and offensive to those like you that are against adult content. So what?!?!  

Everything I do is 100% legal!  And, the markets my products and services target MILLIONS - not exactly a small fringe.  So, what is your problem?

You seem to think that the only women that work and watch and consume these types of products and services are being abused?!?  Boy! Are you mistaken!  Females and couples are a huge part of the adult CONSUMER.   

Just because you repeat something does not make it fact. And, just because you whisper and imply vague things is something women do, not men. 

[Zon]

That old guy in the photo that may have married that babe and that you continue to mock is someone you should seek advice from.

CRACK - that is the limb snapping.  You now have lost credibility with me.   You REALLY DO BELIEVE that getting married is an accomplishment?!?!

What? Who? Why? For how long? These things are completely secondary to you. You think as a man who was not given enough possibilities in life with women.

 

[Fuzzyone]

Why do you think you are entitled to any greater explanation than that I have already given?  I  have already been FAR more transparent than any one else here - by a mile.   If I answer one, another will arise, and another, and another. 

Today, I spent all day in a recording room cutting promo videos with some of the biggest adult web sites.  The subjects were all sensual and provocative.  At the first of the year, I will be doing much live radio - a brand new round of marketing and PR that likely will make what I have done in the past look small.  .... and I bet you a dollar, some of the material will be controversial  and offensive to those like you that are against adult content. So what?!?!  

Everything I do is 100% legal!  And, the markets my products and services target MILLIONS - not exactly a small fringe.  So, what is your problem?

You seem to think that the only women that work and watch and consume these types of products and services are being abused?!?  Boy! Are you mistaken!  Females and couples are a huge part of the adult CONSUMER.   

Just because you repeat something does not make it fact. And, just because you whisper and imply vague things is something women do, not men. 

   Repeat something? Are you kidding really? all that information came from a interview you did? So what you are saying was everything you and A.J. had to say was a lie? Legal? what my problem? I problem you comments like most Colombian woman cheat and I could name many other comments you have made. Really if it is so bad down there why go? I know business! The only real reason you showed up here was business and nothing else. This forum was never started to advance the likes of a crap head like you. I have seen guys come and go some going down in flames some not. Some never getting to the goal they set, but then we also have had the mongers like you show up the only problem is you can sit there with that smug look on your face all you want but like the russian forum everyone pretty much has your pulse.

[Zon]

The only real reason you showed up here was business and nothing else. This forum was never started to advance the likes of a crap head like you. I have seen guys come and go some going down in flames some not. Some never getting to the goal they set, but then we also have had the mongers like you show up the only problem is you can sit there with that smug look on your face all you want but like the russian forum everyone pretty much has your pulse.

DO YOU REALLY think that I would post over 1000 comments for the sake of ADVANCING BUSINESS INTERESTS on a site that gets almost no traffic?!??!?  And, you think you know business?  HAHAHA    This would be the greatest loss leader in the history of the world.   I came to this board after I had a conversation with the late Dennis Levy.   My comments and interests here have been personal, not business.

BUT, at least you gave a hint on why you would start a witch hunt, and even go so far as to suggest I undertake unlawful activity.    You disagree with my well founded observations that truth is different in Colombia, generally speaking more people lie.   You disagree with my well founded observations that MANY men have wives and lovers - and infidelity is rather common.   So, you are prone to say virtually anything because these two points HURT YOUR FEELINGS.

And, again, you show a very Victorian, judgmental bend.  I have dated women I knew were prepagos.  Many guys here have.  (Some American men have been unknowingly engaged to such women).    I have seen men come to Colombia and put on their Sunday's best behavior, make a marriage proposal ... then hit a whore house on the way to the airport.   I have seen much.  Have you not?  Or, do you just prefer to pretend?

As for me?  I have been to very permissive locations in many different countries.  I enjoyed myself and my time there.  Have I made this a secret?  Often times, I have posted in detail on just the opposite!   Is this your smoking gun?!?!?!   Again, do you think I should have asked for your permission.  Or, do you think I care if you, or anyone else knows what I have done over the last 3 - 5 years.  You judgmental A$$

I never was married during this time (which is more than I can say for others here).  When I have had a girl friend during these times, I did not need to lie, or betray.   I have no children to be a role model for, or to raise.  It is amazing that I am having to comment at such length here!  If you did not have something concrete to say, you should have been man enough to apologize to me many pages back.

How do you feel so righteous in this regard?  It is worrisome, and it should be for EVERYONE here.