If a lady from BArranquilla speaks good english well is this a red flag

[whitey]

If you don't mind me saying, you always keep on giving out advice that we should speak Spanish, but how come you are still looking after having dated over 100 women  (I remembered that from your previous postings, you even counted how many women you have dated.

Dennis isn't one of us "wife-hunters" on a mission to get married or even necessarily to have a long-term novia at this point.

He's been living in Colombia for at least a couple years, enjoying life, learning the language and culture, and dating a lot of women.  At the present time he's been on the move for several months, and doesn't have a "fixed address".

Nothing wrong with that, just a different path.    

[whitey]

I used to consider speaking English as a red flag, but now consider it a yellow flag - I would simply want to learn how and why they learned English.

It's a little unfair perhaps to think this way since there are MANY more legitimate than illegitimate reasons why a woman may speak English at some level ... but the last thing I would want is to end up with someone who learned Engish from having several gringo boyfriends, because they are scammers, or because they have a burning desire to leave Colombia and live the Western lifestyle.  This would be VERY rare in Colombia as a whole, but less rare amongst the women you may meet online.

As others have stated, there are many legitimate reasons why a woman may speak English.  In Colombia, English is taught in school and at the university.  Many of the wealthier Colombian families send their children to bilingual schools - there are many in Barranquilla for instance.  People also study for career advancement or personal interest.  Colombia is pretty heavily influenced by US culture, and many listen to the music, watch movies and tv shows.  

I practice English for an hour every week with a male friend via Skype who lives in Barranquilla.  He's a sharp guy and wants to improve his English to help with his career.  

Also, I don't think HOW WELL the woman speaks English necesarily indicates anything negative.  For example, my wife and her two sisters have all taken English at school and university.  One sister is more gifted with language than the others, and she speaks quite well, despite hardly having any ability to practice.  One sister is not that interested and is only taking it because she has to in order to complete her degree - she will probably never retain very much.  Nazly is very motivated and is progressing well, but doesn't have the gift her youngest sister has.

I'm also working with a couple from Barranquilla here in my city that have recently immigrated to Canada.  They actually met each other 12 years ago in an English class at the university in Barranquilla.  The wife is very intelligent and I think has a gift for language.  Although her husband is highly motivated, and studies very hard, and is learning faster than normal, she is far ahead and close to being fluent after 5 months here.

To reiterate the last few posts, I thinks it's hugely important for the man to learn Spanish ... the reasons why have been discussed many times in many different threads, so I won't re-hash it now.  My relationship with Nazly has been 99% in Spanish (although that will be changing soon when she comes here) ... it is the language of our relationship, our love, and I can't imagine it being any other way.  It has been so rewarding and fun for me, but also very difficult and frustrating at times - so worth it though!

I guess to summarize, don't write a woman off because she speaks English well ... just look at BrazilianGirl and InnocentVixen if you need a good example ... seems to me that any man would be lucky to be with these two women.  But I'd still want to know how and why they learned English.
 

[dennislevy]

Ahhh. Whitey you remembered our conversation in Baranquilla!

gato4astrid, yes i know who you are. And yes, im not specifically hunting for a wife....I did that the first two years on colombia till aobut the spring of 2010, and then fo the last three months, Ive changed my strategy and just dated women in different cities and see if i got hit by the thunderbolt. And ive lived out of a suitcase and a carry on for the last three months in Cali, Tulua, Buga, Palmiira, Bucamaranga, Baranquilla, Santa marta, Cartagena and la Guajira.

Bye the way, that number has gone up since you last took me to task for my dating habits, as of now, ive met approximately 200 women in Colombia ofr at least a one on one coffe.

Ive you ve had a girlfriend for 15 months, I assume she s form another country then the UK....and if that is so, there can be a lot that is unsaid in an internatinal relatlonship and between visits. But let me wish you the very best of luck.

[Gato4Astrid]

Ahhh. Whitey you remembered our conversation in Baranquilla!

gato4astrid, yes i know who you are. And yes, im not specifically hunting for a wife....

If you are not hunting for a wife, why do you show off how many women you have dated?  You do not need to tell us how many women you have dated, because it isn't competition.   In this way, you will make newbies (especially these who aren't very positive) thinking it is impossible to find a woman.

Well, anyway, I wish you the best of luck in your life in Colombia, and be "James Bond" 

[dennislevy]

Gato
You shoulsd have carefully read Whitey s post (and he knows me) beofre you decided to take a shot at me.

Im going to say this one last time,
i date Colombian women because
1. its my way to learn about the culture here.
2. I would  much rather eat a meal with a woman then alone.
3. I prefer the company of women to men, especially Colombian men
4. when I told you close to 200 women, its a true number, it wasn t showing off, i was SHOWING YOU HOW LITTLE I CARE OF WHAT YOU THINK OF MY DATING HABITS.
I don t  have to show off, and i don t compete with anyone. I am who I am and i ve come a long way in three years, and my viewpoints will be different then most gringos or Englishmen  becasue i have traveled and lived in Colombia for the last three years and today, I m sititng in a cafe two blocks from the beach in Riohacha the capital of la Guajira.
5, Finding a good wife is not that easy, sometines its the right two people making a connection, sometimes its other things.

But let me remind you that you re also not married, what you appear to have is a girlfriend in Medellin who you see intermittently. and if and when you get married, Ill congratulate you.

Some of us still remember the train wreck you committed with another Colombian woman from 2008, that was when you were gatoazul on this board.   And we re not going to talk about Russia or Romania or whatever, are we?

So i ll make you a deal, stop yapping about my dating life and I won t  stick any more pins in you.

OK?

[Gato4Astrid]

Gato

Some of us still remember the train wreck you committed with another Colombian woman from 2008, that was when you were gatoazul on this board.   And we re not going to talk about Russia or Romania or whatever, are we?

Very few women compare to your 200+ women - that's big difference

Whitey might know you, but RayJCS also knew SFNM!!

I still haven't forgotten your very negative advice that you gave me about 2-3 years ago!   You told me that it is impossible for me to find a Colombian women because of 3 reasons:

1 - I am from UK
2 - I am deaf
3 - I do not speak Spanish

Giving out negative advice is something Life Coach would disapprove of.  I have proven you wrong in that "advice"

[z_k_g]

Very few women compare to your 200+ women - that's big difference

Whitey might know you, but RayJCS also knew SFNM!!

I still haven't forgotten your very negative advice that you gave me about 2-3 years ago!   You told me that it is impossible for me to find a Colombian women because of 3 reasons:

1 - I am from UK
2 - I am deaf
3 - I do not speak Spanish

Giving out negative advice is something Life Coach would disapprove of.  I have proven you wrong in that "advice"

Gato,

4 - You are too short

Zulu

[fathertime]

i enjoy when dennislevy makes his thrice a year appearance...i'm afraid i'm going to have to agree with much of what he has said...but lets face facts here, if dennislevy really was looking for a spouse certainly one of those 220 ladies would have been adequate....it would appear he is on a different mission...if i were 57, independently wealthy, and had as much freedom as dennislevy has, i might be doing the same thing he is...some of his advice has to be recalibrated because he has forgotten some of the realities of living in the usa, and he hasn't actually married a colombiana...yet

i spent some time with a stunning girl from riohacha several years ago, she spoke pretty good english...i wonder if she is now one of dennislevy's babes?
now dennis did you really tell gato he should give up and suck his thumb on the couch? 

Fathertime!

[euforia51]

Gato,
...
Some of us still remember the train wreck you committed with another Colombian woman from 2008, that was when you were gatoazul on this board.   And we re not going to talk about Russia or Romania or whatever, are we?

Jeezus Gato ... how many handles have you gone by on this board?  This makes 3 that I know of, and I am still a newbie.

[Henry]

could be a red flag but usually not...a couple of my wife's friends speak very good english because they are in schoool learning...if a woman is part of an agency it makes perfect sense for them to supplement their english skills.  it could be a red flag for intelligence, which for some wife-hunters, is a negative quality!

Fathertime!

Quite frankly, FT, I am surprised at you and Zulukong. Of course I want an intelligent woman. That will certainly help the IQ level of our children. I just dont want a feminist or one like Whitey describes in his first post here.

If there are very legitimate reasons for women in Colombia learning English, then it isnt a red flag. I just dont want one who is holding up all of the negative traits of the USA as the values she wants to accept and emulate in her life. The whole point of finding a foreign woman is finding a more traditional one who isnt sick in the head like AWs are. I am not going overseas to run into the same exact problem I just left.

[Henry]

If you are not hunting for a wife, why do you show off how many women you have dated?  You do not need to tell us how many women you have dated, because it isn't competition.   In this way, you will make newbies (especially these who aren't very positive) thinking it is impossible to find a woman.

Well, anyway, I wish you the best of luck in your life in Colombia, and be "James Bond" 

I think you should forgive him. Then forget about it. It won't help you in the long run, Gato.

[z_k_g]

Quite frankly, FT, I am surprised at you and Zulukong. Of course I want an intelligent woman. That will certainly help the IQ level of our children. I just dont want a feminist or one like Whitey describes in his first post here.

Henry,

Surprised at what?

Am I missing something here?

What exactly are you talking about?

Zulu?

[fathertime]

Quite frankly, FT, I am surprised at you and Zulukong. Of course I want an intelligent woman. That will certainly help the IQ level of our children. I just dont want a feminist or one like Whitey describes in his first post here.
 

henry, while i don't always fully agree with your posts, i wasn't referencing you in my comments...i don't even think i had read your comments on this thread...

fathertime!

[william3rd]

i enjoy when dennislevy makes his thrice a year appearance...i'm afraid i'm going to have to agree with much of what he has said...but lets face facts here, if dennislevy really was looking for a spouse certainly one of those 220 ladies would have been adequate....it would appear he is on a different mission...if i were 57, independently wealthy, and had as much freedom as dennislevy has, i might be doing the same thing he is...some of his advice has to be recalibrated because he has forgotten some of the realities of living in the usa, and he hasn't actually married a colombiana...yet

i spent some time with a stunning girl from riohacha several years ago, she spoke pretty good english...i wonder if she is now one of dennislevy's babes?
now dennis did you really tell gato he should give up and suck his thumb on the couch? 

Fathertime!

Its hard to find that special someone when you are too busy being a sex tourist.

[Gato4Astrid]

Jeezus Gato ... how many handles have you gone by on this board?  This makes 3 that I know of, and I am still a newbie.

Got problems with my old handle?

Try these people with new handles in SFNM's topic!!

[euforia51]

Got problems with my old handle?

Nooo Gato, I don't have problems with your old handle(s). I was making light that you have/had 3 of them.
estoy bromeando ... y nada mas.

[Gato4Astrid]

Nooo Gato, I don't have problems with your old handle(s). I was making light that you have/had 3 of them.
estoy bromeando ... y nada mas.

1st one :  I couldn't log in and it was a techincal problems.

2nd one: GatoAzul but I changed it into Gato4Astrid when I found her ...

In case you are wondering, I am "CDW" in other sites (non-dating forum site)

[dennislevy]

gato
I never told you that it was impossible to find a Colombian woman. I said it might present some obstacles, but never impossible. And it appears that you have found another Colombian girlfriend, wonderful. Me too, I ve had more then one girlfriend in Colombia! But when Astrid gets to England, as your wife or on a fiancee visa, as I ve said, I ll congratulate you, until then you re still just....a guy who is looking for a foreign wife.

Fathertime
jejejeje. I don t have babes, I have women who are friends and some have been more. I don t know whoever you knew in Riohacha is someone I know, but I did meet an amiga (in her mid to late 20s) who speaks terric colloquial English.  she is a friend of someone Im dating. Her mothers name is Lola They live right down the street from the El Mejor panaderia in Riohacha. But probably not the same girl? And i sure as hell am not independently wealthy, I just live my life differently with diferent priorites then other people. And I havent forgotten the challñenges of finding a good woman in the US, thats exactly why I live in Colombia!
TO ALL
Its not that I cant find someone, its finding the RIGHT someone for me and me for them. One of the challenges of findfing someone to live with in Colombia and maybe marry.....is the fear of many mature women to make a committment. I didnt understand it at first, when I moved here, I understand it better now. many women have had their lives damaged by the behaviors of past men in their lives. So I changed my strategy and I don t  talk aobut marriage anymore.

when I say Ive met 200 women, Im not implying that I slept with 200 women , if I has tried to do that, I would be dead!  Most of the women I met were no more then a couple of dates, or someone wanted me to meet a friend. many were in the first year or so when I was an agency client.

As ive said before, as an American man who lives here, I have had to find a way to understand the country and the culture. and I ve chosen to have women as my guides and teachers of customs, of Spanish. In general, I don t trust Colombian men and I still don t have a close male Colombian friend. And my goals are very different then most Americna men who live here. So thats why

WilliamIII
Im not a tourist because I live in Colombia and Im certainly not a sex tourist. Your comment was pointless and classless.

[Gato4Astrid]

gato
I never told you that it was impossible to find a Colombian woman. I said it might present some obstacles, but never impossible. And it appears that you have found another Colombian girlfriend, wonderful. Me too, I ve had more then one girlfriend in Colombia! But when Astrid gets to England, as your wife or on a fiancee visa, as I ve said, I ll congratulate you, until then you re still just....a guy who is looking for a foreign wife.

Actually you wrote "Impossible" rather than mentioning "obstacles"

[Woody]

Actually you wrote "Impossible" rather than mentioning "obstacles"

Gato, you could always link to the original post and settle this once and for all.

[z_k_g]

when I say Ive met 200 women, Im not implying that I slept with 200 women , if I has tried to do that, I would be dead!  

Dennis,

Nice!!

200 won't kill you!  

Zulu

[dennislevy]

Gato
if you have the original post then link it and if I said that it was impossible to find a Colombian woman, then I ll apologize on this forum. I believe I said that you might have tried finding a woman who was also deaf, that is not the same as saying it would be impossible.

Now put up or shut up.
Dennis

[JimD]

Dennis I spent a week in Riohacha some years back and liked it. I liked the Indian market there. If I were inclined to live on the north coast I would pick that over Santa Marta, B/quilla etc. any day.

[Henry]

Gato, DennisLevy may have given you some very discouraging advice. I dont know. Even if he did, what does it matter? If he said it, you proved him wrong. In any case, it is just his opinion and you can't live by someone else's opinion of you. There's no sense in holding on to any grudge cause it is simply not productive and a real time-waster.

[euforia51]

Gato,
...
There's no sense in holding on to any grudge cause it is simply not productive and a real time-waster.

Give it up Henry ... it's like talking to a wall.