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Offline LittleBigFoot5

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Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
« on: January 07, 2010, 10:57:37 AM »
Have you seen the videos where there is this guy hawking "virgin brides" from Vietnam?  Apparently he's in some mall in Singapore.  Basically the women are from super-poor areas and are willing to marry anyone for a better life (they target South Korea and Taiwan).  One interview video they are talking about how if the guy was 60 would she marry him (she was 18 or 19 or something), and she said "yes".

While I appreciate the honesty of the situation, I wonder how long those marriages last.  I'd love to see some follow-up interviews later!  Thoughts?

Like these:
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Re: Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 11:35:08 AM »
These agencies are fairly common. They also target women from Mongolia, poorer parts of Thailand, Laos, and other countries. Do a search for "Mr. Cupid" sometime. He has made his page a bit more professional and is looking for western clients now. That first video posted I believe is from his agency and he at least used to use it to brag about his services. Basically the women work in a sweatshop to pay the agency fees and are paraded in front of men until they get picked up. There was actually some follow-up in one video and it was kind of sad. The woman had been married a couple years but sorely missed her family and country and was crying about it...but I guess since she stayed with the husband it's a good thing?

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Re: Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 04:54:23 PM »
Vietnam's factory of virgin brides

March 22, 2005

In an industrial suburb in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, a single-storey zinc-roofed factory staffed by 3,500 young women churns out items like sports shoes and polo T-shirts for foreign brands.

It is not unlike hundreds of other factories, except this one has something else: virgin brides for foreign men.

The Mr Cupid International Matchmakers service was the brainchild of the factory's owner, a reclusive semi-retired Vietnamese man in his 4Os.

Girls at a factory in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, working long hours while they wait to be match-made with foreign spouses.

While businesses offering brides are hardly rare, the idea of using eligible young virgins as workers while they wait for husbands is almost certainly unique.

At first, the factory hired scouts to scour the countryside for suitable virgin village girls they could advertise to foreign bachelors through their agencies in countries such as Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea and Malaysia.

Now they don't have to go looking. Parents bring their daughters to them.

Girls like willowy 20-year-old Huynh Thi Phuong Thuy put up with long shifts sewing shirts and glueing shoes hoping it is a first step to marriage.

"I went to work in the factory because I wanted to marry a foreign man," she said in a phone interview.

Phuong Thuy got what she wanted.

She married a 40-year-old Singaporean storeman last July and now lives in Jurong.

"Life in Singapore is much better than back in Vietnam," she said.

But the factory won't take just anyone. In fact, there are strict quality controls.

New arrivals are given the once-over by matronly female supervisors who look out for tell-tale signs of previous pregnancies, such as stretch marks or caesarean scars.

Those who fail are sent back.

Those chosen are given a medical examination to check that their hymen is still intact. If it isn't, they are rejected.

Vietnames brides taking a break from handing fliers at a Singapore shopping centre recently. After being hired, the women are expected to work hard and behave well.

Female supervisors at the factory penalise lazy, talkative or rebellious girls by barring them from matchmaking sessions. No work, no husband.

Said Martin Wong, managing director of Mr Cupid's Singapore office: "These girls are marrying abroad. They have to be obedient to their husbands.

"We're preparing them for their new lives."

Before she got married, Phuong Thuy used to work 12-hour shifts seated on bare floors, earning less than RM11 a day.

But despite the long hours, most village girls find life at the factory easier than working the padi fields, plantations or shrimp farms back home, where many of them had no electricity or running water, ate one meal a day and bathed in river or rainwater.

So far, Mr Cupid has found brides for around 1,800 men in the region, 300 of them in Singapore.

The girls are given photographs of the men and they choose whether they want to go for the matchmaking session. After that, the decisions are down to the men.

The process can be brutal. In one case, 2,200 girls wanted to be set up with a Taiwanese businessman.

"Can you imagine, they're so hopeful. They stay back in the dormitories, dress up and they only have two seconds to impress before they're turned away," said Wong, in an interview at Mr Cupid's second-floor office at Pearl's Centre in Eu Tong Sen Street, Singapore.

If the groom makes his choice, the rest of those in the queue are sent back.

It sounds degrading, but Wong insists the young women are willing.

"They're born in a poor country. For many of them, this is their only chance to break out of poverty," he said.

For many, it is a long wait. Out of the 3,500 girls working at the factory, only about 300 get hitched each year.

The prettier ones usually get chosen within six months, while some have gone for more than 200 matchmaking sessions without success.

Most quit after two or three years and go back home if they haven't been chosen, said Wong.

Some cling on.

The oldest worker there is a 35-year-old seamstress, who faithfully works her shifts and lives in hope of being picked one day.

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Re: Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
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Re: Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 05:04:32 PM »
I remember watching the first video awhile back. I think it has been discussed here before. There is something you can take away from that video.

Let's forget about the paying money to matchmakers and all this virgin BS. The girl in the video (the one that was interviewed) was very attractive and she seemed very nice. Her expectations for a guy are also very reasonable.

LittleBigFoot, I just don't think your question matters in terms of your search (or hopefully anyone else's on here). If you aren't using that type of "matchmaker" and chasing teen virgins you aren't in that situation.

Finally from that video hopefully you've noticed the language barrier. Unless you know some of her language and she knows some of yours... I can't imagine overcoming that. I lucked out and found a girl fluent in english. So education and language are of importance.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 06:04:34 PM »

Mr. Cupid?

Oh Boy! Here we go again...  :-X


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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2010, 04:34:43 AM »
It sounds like Mr Cupid has a lot of back stock that is going out of date! Maybe he should consider a rent to own plan.  ;D
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Re: Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2010, 08:18:20 AM »

 Marrying someone after a few minute interview sounds awfully risky...physical attraction can only get you so far in my opinion, plus she'd have to take English classes or something.Though I'm 6 hours away from Singapore :S, sounds like a good backup plan to use in a few decades though, does anyone know how much the whole 7 day pack costs?

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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2010, 09:22:15 AM »
Marrying someone after a few minute interview sounds awfully risky...physical attraction can only get you so far in my opinion, plus she'd have to take English classes or something.Though I'm 6 hours away from Singapore :S, sounds like a good backup plan to use in a few decades though, does anyone know how much the whole 7 day pack costs?

Hey confusio,

I don't know what he charges. But at Dave's U-Pickum Virgin Brides, I can probably beat his prices. I have low overhead, working out of my tricycle, instead of a fancy office.  ;D If requested, I will check a lady to see if she WAS a virgin for free. I will even g.a.r.r.u.n.t.e.e that she WAS !  ::) Remember, YOU "break it", YOU buy it!  ;D

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Re: Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2010, 09:59:49 AM »
Big Bad Chinese Mama runs a reputable MOB (mail order bride) site.  ;) I laugh my azz off every time I see it! You think FemNazi AW'S are bad...check FemNazi A-AW'S! They aren't worth the crust in my thong diaper! I guess being that there are so few in the US, it really goes to their school girl brainwashed heads! Damn how I love "real" Asian women...who think that FemNazi A-AW'S are just spoiled, young, privileged brats with too much time on their hands!!!  ;D What a waste of an expensive education!

http://www.bigbadchinesemama.com/

Be sure to check out the "Harem of Angst!" Hands off that "little virgin school girl" BANGKOK BANG BANG!!! She's already taken!

http://www.bigbadchinesemama.com/brides/profile2.htm?bride=18
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2010, 10:24:32 AM »
Hey confusio,

I don't know what he charges. But at Dave's U-Pickum Virgin Brides, I can probably beat his prices. I have low overhead, working out of my tricycle, instead of a fancy office.  ;D If requested, I will check a lady to see if she WAS a virgin for free. I will even g.a.r.r.u.n.t.e.e that she WAS ::) Remember, YOU "break it", YOU buy it!  ;D

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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2010, 10:45:45 AM »
I think he used to have a price up and it was pretty expensive. There was also some blurb about sending the girl to Chinese language and cooking classes while waiting for the visa approval.

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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2010, 05:49:29 PM »
These agencies are fairly common. They also target women from Mongolia, poorer parts of Thailand, Laos, and other countries. Do a search for "Mr. Cupid" sometime. He has made his page a bit more professional and is looking for western clients now. That first video posted I believe is from his agency and he at least used to use it to brag about his services. Basically the women work in a sweatshop to pay the agency fees and are paraded in front of men until they get picked up. There was actually some follow-up in one video and it was kind of sad. The woman had been married a couple years but sorely missed her family and country and was crying about it...but I guess since she stayed with the husband it's a good thing?

Ya know i can only look at this situation through American eyes. So i guess these ladies are looking at their situation much differently than most of us would. None of us put these ladies in a 3rd world country though.
It would be interesting to see what the actual success rate of this type of marriage is.


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Re: Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2010, 12:05:11 AM »

It would be interesting to see what the actual success rate of this type of marriage is.

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By "success rate," I am assuming that you mean the number of couples that stay married. I would imagine that it is quite high! Take a woman to a country where she doesn't speak the language, doesn't know if she has any legal rights, where wife abuse is considered justified and seldom prosecuted, keep her isolated with few if any friends or trusted confidants, and little of no contact with her family... The marriage will probably last, but it won't be a happy one...at least for the woman!

FemNazis would be wise to stop wasting their resources on trying to make western men (especially American men) look bad and realize that most Asian women married to westerners lead a far better, safer, more secure, loving, stable, and happier life than their fellow countrywomen married to fellow countrymen and men from other Asian countries! FemNazis love to focus on the few American wackjobs, pretending that they are the norm, rather than the exception, present anecdotal evidence as if it were fact, and creating enormously inflated statistics and other lies out of thin air to prove their claims! Most do not even know the US immigration proceedures and requirements. So far they have been quite successful with their lies, since few people bother to question their "fact"s and polititions just want their votes. But, just like Al Gore, their lies will eventually come back to bite them in the AZZ! I wonder if Al is under a 24 hour suicide watch yet?

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Re: Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2010, 12:37:58 PM »
Well Dave then why are all there Viet. ladies going to Taiwan if the men there are soooo bad ???
are the Viet. men just as bad only poorer ??


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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2010, 12:57:29 PM »
"FemNazis would be wise to stop wasting their resources on trying to make western men (especially American men) look bad and realize that most Asian women married to westerners lead a far better, safer, more secure, loving, stable, and happier life than their fellow countrywomen married to fellow countrymen and men from other Asian countries!"

That's a bit of a generalisation Dave, but I get your point. And so do the Feminazis, which is why they and are determined to try and prevent it.

Here, our disreputable and utterly discredited socialist "government" recently passed a Danish-style law preventing any non-EU national bride of a UK or EU citizen, who happens to be under the age of 21, from being able to enter the UK on a marriage or fiancee VISA. This has been done, supposedly, to protect the rights of Asian women living abroad - notably women from the Indian subcontinent who marry UK citizens of Asian origin in traditional family-arranged ceremonies. The same guys can still marry a UK citizen provided she is 16 or older. This blatant discrimination, based solely on nationality, seeks to deny the rights of UK citizens to marry who they choose. It also goes against the "human rights" and equality legislation they have championed for so long, and shows just what odious hypocrites they are.

I hope nothing like this ever gets passed into the legislature of any other Western countries, but I wouldn't bet against it. I'm sure there are feminist creeps in every Western democracy rubbing their hands at the successful passage of such laws, and are now salivating at the thought of extending them to prevent Western menfolk from marrying any foreign bride under the age of 25 (or maybe 40 - why not?) who weighs less than 180lbs. And who are we to argue? Aren't we all the disfunctional, abusive and unwashed rejects that no decent Western woman would want to be with, and which our effeminised media could oh-so-easily vilify...?

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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2010, 01:33:39 PM »
Wait - i've just noticed something on his website - he is offering Franchise Opportunities!!!

What a brilliant idea!!!

LWL members - let's open a virgin bride clothing factory in Colombia!!!


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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2010, 02:52:46 PM »
CeeTee, aren't you in UK? Seems to me like something like that HAS been done there before. The British were quite glad to have Chinese serving in their merchant marine during WWII, both as seamen and shore based workers in the repair yards. Many of them married local (British) women and had children. For the act of marrying a foreigner, the women were stripped of the British citizenship and as soon as the war ended the government said to the Chinese "Thanks for helping us win the war. Now it's over, so get the hell out of our country." Didn't care about ripping families apart or little things like that. Somewhere (Liverpool, I think) there is a memorial to them today. The gist of the memorial is "We're sorry" and "Never again".  --- yeah, right on both counts.

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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2010, 05:02:20 PM »
Didn't care about ripping families apart or little things like that. Somewhere (Liverpool, I think) there is a memorial to them today. The gist of the memorial is "We're sorry" and "Never again".  --- yeah, right on both counts.

And our country has a spotless history? I give people and governments credit that admit they make mistakes. A memorial suggests they admit they [snip]ed up. That's not something I'd rag on.
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2010, 06:08:52 PM »
Yes Michael, I acknowledge that the Liverpool Chinese seamen's story is another shameful chapter in British history.

However, the point I was making is that since 1997 our left-wing government has passed much legislation to guarantee "human rights" for ethnic minorities, women, the disabled, LGBTs etc., including the EU convention of human rights that guarantees the "right to a family".

And yet, if I were to choose to marry one of the 18 year old Vietnamese virgins shown in the video ( ;D ) then my "right to a family" would be denied - as a result of a law passed by the UK parliament specifically to protect girls living 1000s of miles away and with no ties to the UK!

This is the Feminazis at work, make no mistake. And if they can strike with laws like this, or for that matter IMBRA, then they can strike again to deny all of us our right to marry who we choose. Be on your guard.

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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2010, 08:56:41 PM »
And our country has a spotless history? I give people and governments credit that admit they make mistakes. A memorial suggests they admit they [snip]ed up. That's not something I'd rag on.

The memorial is fine and dandy.  I did not take Michaelb’s comments as a rip on the memorial but rather to the somewhat hypocritical policies that make the memorial a joke in Michaelb’s eyes. At least that is how I interpreted his post. He can correct me if I'm mistaken.

I don’t see what sordid parts of the US history has to do with this discussion.  Nobody was disputing that historically bad things have happened here, so what prompted you to throw that out there?

CTE:

That sounds like a really stupid and restrictive law.  I would not be happy about it either, even though I didn't marry a gal under 21.  I just don’t like to see govt. meddling in things like this.   

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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2010, 10:31:05 AM »
I never implied that the US has a 'spotless' history. The truth of the US history in fact is quite the opposite. (look up the exploits of Smedley Butler for some examples).

I did not intend to poke fun at the monument itself, hopefully it is a comfort to the descendants of those it is intended to honor. The yeah right was directed at the hypocrisy of politicians who won't do stuff like that ever again, at least not until the next time it is expedient for them or their masters.

Mostly I brought it up to show that there has previously been discrimination the UK in the handling of foreign spouses....i.e. British MEN who married foreign women were NOT stripped of their citizenship and were allowed to bring in their spouses to live with them. The spouses of British WOMEN were forced to leave, sometimes without even the opportunity inform their families. Similar (but I'll admit not exactly the same) to CTE's noting that under this law a British citizen can marry (and even more to the point, LIVE WITH) a LOCAL as young as 16, but can't live with (at least not in his/her own country) a foreign spouse until they are 21. A law like that is blatant discrimination, and as CTE points out, is letting the camel put his nose in your tent. --- Although I think the camel is already in at least up to his shoulders already.

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Re: Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2010, 07:33:27 AM »
Well Dave then why are all there Viet. ladies going to Taiwan if the men there are soooo bad ???
are the Viet. men just as bad only poorer ??

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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2010, 08:09:35 AM »
"FemNazis would be wise to stop wasting their resources on trying to make western men (especially American men) look bad and realize that most Asian women married to westerners lead a far better, safer, more secure, loving, stable, and happier life than their fellow countrywomen married to fellow countrymen and men from other Asian countries!"

That's a bit of a generalisation Dave, but I get your point. And so do the Feminazis, which is why they and are determined to try and prevent it.


Hey CeeTeeEnn,

Perhaps on the surface...but 100% accurate! FemNazi's have been highly successful in controlling (non-surgical castration) American men using the school systems, media, work place, and government...no such luck in Asian, Latin American, African or Muslim countries. If you really want to put out a fire, you don't spray water on the smoke! It might look good on TV or a picture in the newspaper, but the fire will continue to burn out of control. Their resources would be MUCH better utilized in Africa than America! But it is much easier and safer to keep whipping an obedient man who is already controlled. I am old enough to remember when only Bad Azzes wore leather!

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An estimated 25,000 Filipinas have been brough into the US to work at brothel houses, bars, nightclubs and illegal sex farms in various states and in the vicinity of US military bases and camps.


Some 25 sex tour operators in the US each send 15-25 men each month to the Philippines to engage in sex tourism. A Philippine Adventure Tour, for instance, costs $1,645 including RT airfare, hotel and guided tours to the bars where women are purchased for sex for as low as $24.


Neither the Philippine embassy and its consulates nor the US government has any adequate program to deal with the problem. US legislators of Philippine ancestry focus largely on whether the women should be called "mail-order brides," the agencies "mail-order bride agencies," or some other term which would effectively hide the fact that women are being sold."

http://www.gabnet.org/campaigns.php?page=2.2

That doesn't sound like me or any other American that I personally know who is married to a Filipina!  G A B R I E L A uses words like "usual", "estimated"  and "some" since they don't have any solid facts or data, just anecdotal evidence to support their Anti American Male/Filipina Marriage Agenda of their PURPLE ROSE CAMPAIGN!
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Re: Vietnamese Virgin Brides!
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2010, 04:57:12 PM »
Yes, Feminists the world over would be delighted to be able to pass legislation to outlaw Western-Asian and Western-Latin groom-bride marriages, unless the Latin or Asian woman in question was a venerated writer on topics such as gender equality, secularization, and so on. And this would have nothing to do with furthering the lot of women living in the third world and everything to do with denying Western men any avenue of escape from their twisted agenda.

I am surprised, however, to see that 5000 is the figure they quote for the number of annual US-Pinay marriages. I wonder where this figure came from; it does seem very high, equating to some 13 weddings a day and the number of American-Pinay couples running into 6 figures. Add to this the number of Filipinas married to Westerners from other countries and you soon begin to understand why so many Filipinos end up working as merchant seamen!

 

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