New Guy - Old Guy - Been here before.

[Larry178]

Like all rules, works for some Ray.  It is a place to start. Life does not come with a guarantee.  And much depends on the individual.  For example, 50 less 25 plus 7 equals 32.  This is prime sex drive age for women.  On the other hand, there can be a difference between sex drives even if the couple is the SAME age. 

If you look at the attitude of a 42 year old female thinking about a 70 year old, which matches the formula, she is gonna figure that she will be looking again with 10 years or so.  So what is HER attitude likely to be? 

Larry

[CeeTeeEnn]

hi Larry

Good to see you on here. I remember you from the old LWL forum and recall exchanging a few PMs with you many years ago.

I'm sorry to hear things didn't work out for you recently but i'm at least glad to know you're happy to share your wisdom with us here on Planet Love.

Best Regards,
CeeTeeEnn

[Larry178]

CeeTee

Good to hear from you again.  Things worked out about as expected.  As always, I try to be a realist.  I have no regrets except minor ones.

You still looking?

Larry

[CeeTeeEnn]

CeeTee

Good to hear from you again.  Things worked out about as expected.  As always, I try to be a realist.  I have no regrets except minor ones.

You still looking?

Larry

Yeah, i'm still looking

I've been on the "home guard" here in London for donkeys' years. I gave the Colombians a rest these past few years and switched over to Brazilians, seeing as it's pretty much impossible now to order a pizza or a beer in SW London without coming across a Brazilian barmaid or waitress. I had a couple of run-ins ending with a narrow escape just recently, and so i'm back to facing the "old enemy" again and organising a trip to Colombia and the Andes this summer.

The ironic thing is that over the years i've introduced many of my single male friends to Latinas i know personally, or the Latin scene in general, and four of them have since gotten married or engaged; sometimes I feel like the Mister Big of a criminal gang whose henchmen have been caught and sent down but who is still at large and avoiding capture!

I see you are taking our search to the RP, as i recall you once advised me to. I have to say that i looked into this myself and do think that in 2009 it's probably still the most "safe and sensible" option for any single Western guy to take. I don't think I'm personally ready yet to do "safe and sensible" until i slay the Latin demon still living inside my heart. But if after three or four trips I still haven't found what I'm looking for in that vast expanse of land (or, of course, if I do find it but then discover it doesn't want to be found by me!) then yes, i may well consider making a trip to visit the small towns of Mindanao, where i'm told the most decent and upstanding Filipinas can still be found.

Best Regards,
CeeTeeEnn

[Ray]

Like all rules, works for some Ray.  It is a place to start. Life does not come with a guarantee.  And much depends on the individual.  For example, 50 less 25 plus 7 equals 32.  This is prime sex drive age for women.  On the other hand, there can be a difference between sex drives even if the couple is the SAME age. 

If you look at the attitude of a 42 year old female thinking about a 70 year old, which matches the formula, she is gonna figure that she will be looking again with 10 years or so.  So what is HER attitude likely to be? 

Larry

Larry, you said you were seriously considering the Philippines? If so, you really need to change your way of thinking.

A 42-year-old female is way past marriage age over there and her chances of finding a Filipino mate at that age are about zip-point-diddly-shyt. So a 42 YO is not going to be thinking 10 years ahead.

Also, I have news for you. Prime sex drive age for women is more like early forties, not 32 (at least from my experience)   

At 70, I don’t think you would have any serious problem convincing a 42-year-old Filipina lady to marry you, based on age considerations alone. Their options are already limited because over there they are already considered an old maid.

Ray

[Larry178]

Ray

I don't disagree with you especially when it comes to the Filipina mentality.  Is it Filipina or Filipino?  Anyway, 42 is beyond too old in the Philippines with some exceptions.  Buddy of mine married a 45 year old who was both beautiful and rich.  So was he, so guess that helped. :-)

The guys who started the pager business originally in Hong Kong sold out and  moved to the Philippines, whereupon they attempted to rid the country of virtue. I don't think they succeeded except in a very minor way.

Anyway, I think it is your animal magnetisism that has encouraged the kalibugan atmosphere in your house.  *grin*

Which goes back to why I think this time I will look Filipina.  There is an older nurse here in town who hasn't been here long enough to get spoiled.  While the local nurses frequently fall for Doctors, the foreign ones are totally put off by the attitudes of our MDs.

Larry

[Larry178]

Cee Tee

If I suggested a Filipina to you at some point in time, it would have been based on whatever personality and needs I picked up reading your stuff.  Latinas are not ubiquitious.  In other words, there are cultural differences between countries if not looks, which also vary. There are also cultural differences and attitude differences WITHIN a country.

So in the absense of not knowing which, of many, Latina type you crave, I don't have any suggestions at this point in time.

Larry

[Jeff S]

Is it Filipina or Filipino?

It's a masculine - feminine thing. She and her female friends are Filipinas:



He or they are Filipinos



Just like Mexicanas and Mexicanos, or Colombianas and Colombianos.

[Researcher]

 Hi Larry,

       So you've got your eye on the Philippines? I tried it for a couple of years and came close to marrying a filipina, it didn't work out.I loved the Philippines.The women are great and there are some of the most awesome beaches in the world there.If I lived somewhere like California I probably would have stuck with the Philippines but,for me, I found that a long distance relationship is tough.I can drive to Atlanta and be in Bogota in 4 1/2 to 5 hours as opposed to the long trip to PI.That meant more visits to get to know my lady and it worked out well.Any ideas on how you will handle the distance? I think I read that you are in Kentucky.


       Researcher

[Larry178]

Jeff:

I am aware of the "a" versus "o" gender indication.  I had a random brain flumox when I wrote that sentence.  I was thinking about the culture;  was it male or female values that created the situation where a 42 year old female is/was essentially worthless for a local relationship?

How was this culturally driven?  Is the Philippines a masculine culture or one based on female values or a composite, the most likely.  Here in the states, we have evolved into pretty much a female value driven culture with tattered edges. For example, in the Philippines, do bosses get aware with sexual demands on their female employees?  I know that in China, Japanese and Taiwanese plants usually have a Doctor assigned to clean up the mess after the offshore bosses try to plow their way through the local females who work for them and thus there is a huge competition for those offshore boss jobs.

I am gonna have to look up the female/male population ratio at different ages for some clues.  Survival for many young women seems to mean becoming an LBFM and working either locally or in Hong Kong or other location.  Yet they produce qualified Nurses by the thousands, who spread out all over the globe.

Larry

[Larry178]

Researcher:

YOu have nailed it.  One reason I focused on LA before is because of exactly the reason(s) you named.  And I had a lot more money then than now.  Yet it is apparent that a Filipina is more ready to accept age differences - on average -  than you might find south.  There are exceptions to every rule.

I really didn't have the time to make multiple Asian trips back then. I do now, the only issue is how to pay for them and do it right.  I do better than average as a retired guy, but I still have limitations on what I can spend and for what.

Larry

[Ray]

Lary,

Have you seriously considered going ex-pat. Your retirement pay would surely go a lot farther over there.

But then you have to give up a lot in the way of quality health care. Overall, healthcare in the Philippines sucks unless you live in a major city like Manila or Cebu.

We have a house in the province but the nearest hospital (not a good one) is at least an hour away by boat. You can't pick up the phone over there and call 911 and have trained paramedics at your doorstep in minutes. A heart attack or stroke is usually an automatic death sentence.

If you don't have any major health problems that require frequent care, it may be worth considering. Even then you could hire a private nurse if needed for peanuts.

Unlike here, Filipino families take care of their old people.

Ray

[Larry178]

Ray

OH yes!

I  have considered expat.  And health care is the ONLY reason I haven't done it as yet.  How far does $1,500 a  month go over there?  I have some additional funds stashed, but they would be capital, not recurring.

Larry

[Jeff S]

My father is doing just fine in Mazatlan on less than $1000 a month. Has a 3 bedroom house with fruit trees in the yard, satellite TV, high speed internet, his car, a once a week cleaning lady who also does his laundry, a new 25 year younger girlfriend, and is loving life. I'm sure Mexico is quite a bit more expensive than the PI these days.

[Larry178]

I am impressed Jeff.  How old is your Dad and what does he have to say about health care down there.  How much is Viagra?  *grin*

Larry

[Jeff S]

He's very healthy - makes a trip back once a year to visit the VA hospital, and his new sweetie is a registered nurse but she holds a government office job instead of working in nursing. Meds there are cheaper than his VA deal here, and you can buy whatever you want over the counter. I know he's on a couple of things, B/P and cholesterol, not sure about the discretionary meds. He's 82 now and says he's having the best time of his life. My father-in-law, now 89, claims not to need any chemical assistance to perform 3 times a week.

[Larry178]

Jeff

I looked up the price of housing in Mazatlan and it was sky high.  How does he do it?

Larry

[Jeff S]

He lives in the Mexican part of town, 1/2 mile or so from the beach, not the Gringo part of town (big $.) His 3 bedroom house with a walled-in yard full of fruit trees is about $300 a month. PM me if you'd like his contact info.

[Larry178]

Jeff:

Yes, I think I would.  Been giving it some consideration and I would like more info and your dad would certainly know the ropes.  Thank you.

Larry

[Dave H]

Ray

OH yes!

I  have considered expat.  And health care is the ONLY reason I haven't done it as yet.  How far does $1,500 a  month go over there?  I have some additional funds stashed, but they would be capital, not recurring.

Larry

Hi Larry,

$1500 a month can get you very far in the Philippines, especially the provinces. I moved to the Philippines in March of this year (disability retired). We have a small 2 bedroom house, but I am looking for a 3-4 bedroom house to rent until I can build a bigger house ($20,000). I looked at a small 3 bedroom, 2 bath house the other day that they were asking $100 per month rent. It was even close to a private hospital/ medical school, but I want more square feet. It will cost $150-$200 per month for what we are looking for. My wife's sister and retired Kano husband live in a nice hotel for less than $300 per month. My brother-in-law and I swim in the large swimming pool every day. The hotel staff brings us out food and drinks when we finish.    Food is very cheap in the Philippines!

As Ray said "Unlike here, Filipino families take care of their old people." The other day I had very bad muscle spasticity throughout my body. I had 4 Filipinas massaging me for an hour, until I felt better.  I had to actually tell them that they could stop. 3 were registered nurses, including my wife and 2 of her sisters.

What are you waiting for! 

Dave

[Cbear]

As Ray said "Unlike here, Filipino families take care of their old people." The other day I had very bad muscle spasticity throughout my body. I had 4 Filipinas massaging me for an hour, until I felt better.   I had to actually tell them that they could stop. 3 were registered nurses, including my wife and 2 of her sisters.

What are you waiting for!

what is he waiting for? heck, what am I waiting for? !!

[Dave H]

Hey Cbear,

I forgot the word "young." "I had 4 young Filipinas massaging me for an hour, until I felt better.  I wish I had gone to the Philippines or Asia the first time around! It takes a little more effort with long travel distances and all, but well worth it in the long run IMHO! Asian women are known for putting others first, especially their man and loved ones! I guess it is never too late to live and learn... 

Dave