Going to Colombia any adivce?

[Caballero2009]

Hi All

I have been reading this site off and on for a awhile. It seemed that i found the posts really interesting real experiences from people.

I have reached a point in my life where i am going to settle down within the next few years. I met some colombian people in college.... were great people fun ... happy.. energetic... the ladies were nice but had boyfriends back in their country go figure.  Sadly its been some years since then.

But I am looking to visit colombia and i want to ask some questions to kind of save time. I really wont have long ... maybe 1-2 weeks total. I do speak spanish to a degree.... i mean i can speak but not like a native for sure and i have been out of practice for a long while.

ANyway,, my question is.... if my goal is to meet (some) a lady for a future serious relationship... which city is "better".  I have read medellin is nice but the ladies arent as open. I heard barranquilla the ladies are freindly but what type of ladies am i looking at there and where would i meet them?

Is bogota a good place to meet ladies and again whta is the atosphere like here? Where would one go to meet ladies?

There are other cities i have read about... Pereira...cartegena...etc.... i dont know much about those.

I am not silly..... and i dsont plan to JUMP into anything but yet I am serious minded.

Although i am not ruling out any lady if she is just awesome and is what I am looking for...

I would like to stick to 24-30 generally as a rule of thumb.  I do have alittle more knowlwegde of colombia than most general guys because i knew some colombians in college and learned basics of colombia of course a culture is not so quick to learn any adivce would be nice since i plan to visit this year either summer or fall.

Thanks!!

[bcc_1_2]

Caballero,

you found the right place man. I'm flying out to Cali in a few days. I have been to Costa Rica in the past and just went to have a good time and not g/f or wife hunt. I suppose what you should do depends on what you want to do and what you can afford to do. That and time plays a big factor. If you are working with limited days off I'd suggest picking a city and getting a lot of dates set up so you spend your time well.

I suspect your thread will get moved to the general discussion but I'll be looking for your first trip report in here later!

Also the search feature is a good tool to search about agencies, cities, interpeters, and all other topics.

Good luck and have fun.

[Pivery]

  Caballero,

Yes, indeed you have come to right place. For myself when I first had an idea of finding my true love outside of the states, I went through the old posts and checked in regularly and monitored the subjects I was interested in. So I suspect that by going through the past postings and asking questions respectfully, I suspect 99% of the guys (and the few gals here as well) will go out of their way to help out. I settled on Barranquilla near the Carribean coast and the women could not have been more lovely. Also very friendly! They open up even more if you don't use a translator all the time and can stand on your own language-wise. Very jarring how nice and easy-going the women are for a guy from the U.S. where the women wouldn't even so much as throw their coffee on you if you were on fire nevertheless have a conversation with you.
  American women are, from my observations at this point in time, almost completely unapproachable! They don't even want you as a friend unless you're gay, which in their mind, you're no longer a threat to them. Go figure... Too many games and overall silliness. Just not worth the time and headaches-Yikes!!!
I don't think there is a bad choice in cities that you could choose to go to, For myself, as I mentioned before, I choose Barranquilla where there seemed to be such a mix of women, I thought it was great! Pale skin, medium, dark. So whatever city you choose, you will be quite pleased by the reactions you receive from the ladies. I know I was, and my only regret now is that I did not go down there sooner in my life!

Good Luck!
Pivery

[Caballero2009]

HI Privy thank you I tried to respond in the general i was a super noob when i first posted im trying to learn the lay of the land about posting... but i wanted to respond since you took the time.

Well SADLY even though it may be to some degree alittle exaggerated.... i have felt many of the things you posted or experienced them... now im no bradd pitt but im a decent looking guy but i agree american women are getting to be unappraochable unless you are Brad pitt...

I actually opend a door for a lady not long ago.. (hey my parents taught me to be a gentleman) .. and the woman says "EXCUSE ME..." I said oh im sorry i thot maybe i had held her up or something but then she says... "I CAN GET THAT DOOR MY SELF THANKS" and then walks away in a huff.... i was floored.... which is why i am here i guess

not such a bad thing pushed me to evaluate what i want i guess

[drm64]

Caballero,

First, welcome to the board. I am glad you have had some experience with Colombian women already but I think your biggest challenge, as it is for all first timers, is staying focused. Colombia is home of the  most beautiful women in the world as you can see from my wife in our picture and that can easily distract an otherwise level headed guy from the focus of his mission. Go knowing, if you could only get a 6 in the US, you will probably be able to get a 9 there. This is where the problem always starts. The new guy is so proud of his catch, he is blinded by warning signs that can quickly follow. I speak from experience. I married the first one I met and divorced her 4 months later. Go knowing you can get a very beautiful woman but stay focused on finding the inner qualities that make her right for you. Even the most beautiful woman looses her appeal when the new wears off and all your left with is at best, a beautiful stranger, at worst a beatiful b*tch!  Every wrong beautiful woman can easily be replaced. It's like trying to decide who is the most beautiful: JLo, Selma Hayek or Penelope Cruz? You'd probably settle for  any of them, so why not get to know each and find out who would be best for you? Every guy on here could tell you the same thing.  As far as where to go and how to find her, I have been to various parts of Colombia, but only wife hunted in BQ. You have options ranging from meeting women one on one to using an agency to using a tour service. This decision might be best made by you according to your comfort level. Each has its pros and cons. Your knowledge of spanish will help you immensely regardless which route you take. The good thing about this board, is you can shorten your learning curve and not make the same mistakes as your predecessors. I'm willing to share more here if you have more specific questions or you can pm if you like. Good luck.

[Pivery]

  Caballero,

Don't be deterred by the overall stupidity of the "New American Woman". They have brought this on themselves and as a result most men don't even want to be bothered with them anymore. So they end up being even more angry and bitter since not many men want to deal with all of the B.S. that comes along with dealing with them. Yes, I am a gentleman as well. Hold doors open, let a lady have my seat on a bus, or if she dropped something, pick it up for her. But wow, you can't do any of that stuff anymore, so I use my gentlemanly (Is that a word?) skills on my lady now and she feels like a queen. So I know I'm right, just had to use it in the right country, I guess!
  I'm not a frequent flyer down there, but if I can help in any limited way, pm me as well. That's why we are here. To help out if we can, and make this a true resource for men looking for a real woman looking who are looking for a real gentleman!

Good Luck!

Pivery

[InnocentVixen]

I actually opend a door for a lady not long ago.. (hey my parents taught me to be a gentleman) .. and the woman says "EXCUSE ME..." I said oh im sorry i thot maybe i had held her up or something but then she says... "I CAN GET THAT DOOR MY SELF THANKS" and then walks away in a huff.... i was floored.... which is why i am here i guess

I've heard comments like those more times that I can count, sounds like it happens quite often in the states. I am used to men being gentlemen and always appreciate it, but in the few occasions they are not I feel like a fool sitting or standing there waiting for them to do it, it's pretty embarrassing... not that I mind, I am just not used to it!

[Caballero2009]

Thanks for the responses.

Yes its slightly sad for me that I have to look outside USA for the partner I want to walk the rest of my life with.

Its more also I like the latin FLARE/spirit/fire/passion one or all of those. Seems to me latin women from Colombia especialy have some spice for life or spark that girls up here lack generally... are there exceptions.. yea. but it seems its not the norm in the states for some reason.

The thing is also
i kinda have an idea what im looking for in a lady i decided to start posting here when I at least had an idea what it was i was looking for... i dont intend to block any possibilities though ill remain open but i kinda know what will make me fullfilled now i just have to find her... and that wont be as easy it sounds i am sure... the journey has just begun!

So i plan to use the experience from people on this board to save time and learn from them.

Im still debating which cities to visit... or should i just go to one city and spend all my time/money there. its hard.

Jaimies agency is sounding good. Is there a similar trusted agency in say BOGOTA... or Pereira... or Medellin?

thanks

[bcc_1_2]

Caballero,

Yea its sad but then again its really not. i mean "they" sure do try and put a stigma on going overseas to meet women. But the world is becoming a smaller place with the internet and all the traveling so this is something that is going to continue. I can't even imagine how many more guys are going to do this in the next decade or so.

Feminists seem to hate men and their behavior and yet they also seem to mirror us (act just like us). They put shoulder pads in their jacks to look like.... men. They cut their hair really short. They basically try to copy and act like us. Once I figured out there are beautiful women out there and I didn't have to settle or an immature or bitchy women that wouldn't take care of herself... I was relieved.

[Dave H]

I've heard comments like those more times that I can count, sounds like it happens quite often in the states. I am used to men being gentlemen and always appreciate it, but in the few occasions they are not I feel like a fool sitting or standing there waiting for them to do it, it's pretty embarrassing... not that I mind, I am just not used to it!
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Hi IV,

In South Florida where I live we have another problem. Many of the woman are quite arrogant! You hold the door for them and most don't even give you a glance or smile, let alone a gracias or thankyou. They walk past totally ignoring you, often talking on their cellphones or to others. They act as if you are a doorman and expect it. I usually yell out "Your Welcome!" Sometimes a kid will say "thanks."

I find that the few Mexicans here to be quite and polite. Especially Thalía. 

Dave

[JamesTee]

  Caballero,

Don't be deterred by the overall stupidity of the "New American Woman". They have brought this on themselves and as a result most men don't even want to be bothered with them anymore. So they end up being even more angry and bitter since not many men want to deal with all of the B.S. that comes along with dealing with them. Yes, I am a gentleman as well. Hold doors open, let a lady have my seat on a bus, or if she dropped something, pick it up for her. But wow, you can't do any of that stuff anymore, so I use my gentlemanly (Is that a word?) skills on my lady now and she feels like a queen. So I know I'm right, just had to use it in the right country, I guess!
  I'm not a frequent flyer down there, but if I can help in any limited way, pm me as well. That's why we are here. To help out if we can, and make this a true resource for men looking for a real woman looking who are looking for a real gentleman!

Good Luck!

Pivery

Regarding American women, you said "most men don't want to be bothered by them anymore." I disagree. From my experience, men still fall all over themselves to get an American  woman's attention. I work in a school and it's funny (or sad - I don't know) to watch the other male teachers stumble all over themselves to get the young female teachers' attention. All are married and their wives would not be happy to see this behavior. The truth is that American women, even the least unattractive ones, get all the attention they want, either from single or married men. Take a look at a web site like plenty of fish and you will see that the bitchiest women's profiles have hundreds of guys willing to put up with this [snip] (by way of the number of favorites the woman has).

[henryw]

Caballero if you only have one or two weeks you certainly should stick to one city on this visit. If it´s your first visit and your priorities are undefined you might fill your time at a single agency. However if you´ve already narrowed your search regarding age range, children yes or no and how many, skin color, race and things like that you will go through the women who meet your criteria fairly quickly at any given agency and should plan on being able to use other agencies during your visit. Otherwise you´ll find yourself finishing out your time meeting the second and third string choices just for something to do. Most agencies will negotiate with you regarding the time you have available and many will give you a per cita price. In the latter scenario where you´re already focused this is certainly best.  I would research all the agencies you can find in the city that interests you, make note of the girls on their sites that interest you and go from there. It´s too bad that the Planet-Love site here doesn´t organize the agency lists by city. You´ll have to wade through and make your own.

[civilizedchaos]

I agree with the comment about not spreading yourself too thin in terms of the number of cities you visit. Also, since communication is key and you want to develop your Spanish, consider avoiding the coastal areas on your first visit--the costenas are harder to understand than someone from an inland city like Medellin or Bogota. Of course if you don't know Spanish at all this is a moot point. 

Good luck and have fun.

CC

[henryw]

Try understanding the costeños on the pacific coast!

[jay5688]

I enjoyed the women on the coast. The skin color and attitude for me was great. I understand everyone is different. The difference for me was more in the looks and laid back attitude they seem to have. I was not looking for a women with a career or wanting a full time career as a professional. I also think the girls on the coast are a little more independent from the family. just my humble opinion, I only have 3 trips to Colombia in 3 cities so I am not close to being a expert on anything.  be safe Jay

[utopiacowboy]

Very nice avatar, Jay!

[jay5688]

Thanks, I am happy with the results of a few trips and lots of pretrip planing. We were at a new club on the north side of BQ close to mall. Those girls sure know how to dance. LOL

[utopiacowboy]

Most of them are prepagos? I guess it depends what you're looking for. As for Cali, it has a far worse reputation within Colombia than Medellin as far as women are concerned.

[Dan Las Vegas]

Hello Caballero2009, Barranquilla and Cali are the best places to meet good house wifes in Colombia, they are still not spoiled by gringo mania. Medellin is completely westranized and chicas are more bitchy than US or Europe, and most of them are prepagos, so is Bogota and Carthahena. Cali, Barranqilla, Perria, Armenia sill offer the best women. Cali women are brown to dark, there are many fair skilled ladies in Cali, Barranquilla the same. The attitude in both the cities is great, ladies will chat with you at the malls, easy to approach, each to connect. They are trainied to be nice and down to earth. You would need a week or 10 days in each city to see by yourself. Many dating sites like cupid, amigos , romancelatina will offers you some good leads. IF you do not speak english it wil be a problem , you also need to find a good apartment, hotels are a bit expensive, if you going to Cali or Medellin try this apartment for rent
http://pabladoapartmentrent.blogspot.com/ , PM me and good luck

It seems as you know quite a bit about prepagos, since the link is the same as the link that was deleted  offering Prepagos along with the apartment for rent. You also might try learning how to spell.