Some questions

[NCPilot]

So I've been researching Philippines culture, and I have some questions that I'm hoping you guys would help me out with.

1.  I know that family is very big in the culture, and many women want children.  However, I'm one of those guys who doesn't want children.  I just don't see myself as a father.  On another forum that I use to visit, a member did give me an advice to seek out an OB/GYN in the Philippines and bribe them for a list of barren women.  Is this good advice, or even legal advice?  Also it seems to border on stalking, or should I try finding a woman in a country where the push to have kids isn't so strong? 

2.  I am not Christian.  I am a follower of German Paganism, which means I worship Gods like Thor, Odin, Freya etc.  How is that viewed in The Philippines?  They seem to have a very large Catholic population.  I don't mind if my girlfriend or wife is Catholic, I just want her to be find with me following Germanic Paganism.  I did come from a Catholic Family and was baptized, first communion and confirmed in the Catholic Church before I left it.

Those are pretty much my only questions.  Thank you, in advance, for any help or light you can shine on the subject. 

[robert angel]

Wow, you're very upfront and honest in your questioning and that's cool--we are what are and free to be as such -- hopefully. However, I think that the Philippines is probably not the most fruitful place for you to look for what it seems you're seeking.

People there tend to be very religious in their Christian denominations and I think you might get a gal who promises to be what you seek and/or one who might 'promise' to adapt to your preferences, but after a while outside of her country--in your country--things could well unravel and be a real pain.

Bringing a woman desperate for whatever reasons to be your mate may create a union that only lasts until she no longer feels desperate. Yes, many Catholics and other Christian denominations there have various superstitions that accompany their faith/s, but I haven't encountered or heard of women who have interests 'spiritually' similar to yours, in my travels to the Philippines.

From what I've seen, I'd think eastern European women might represent better odds for you. Good luck!

[jm21-2]

The urge to have at least one kid seems pretty strong in Asia. Japan has a very low birthrate and I believe so does Korea...probably Singapore and maybe Taiwan as well. Maybe HK. Doesn't necessarily mean the women there don't want children though. Any of those countries you would probably find women who are more open religiously and probably not members of an organized church. Chinese girls are typically not religious (though some might view your religious beliefs as silly) but they seem very big on kids...one of the major advantages to marrying a foreigner is to get out of the one-child policy that is in effect most places there.

[piglett]

So I've been researching Philippines culture, and I have some questions that I'm hoping you guys would help me out with.

1.  I know that family is very big in the culture, and many women want children.  However, I'm one of those guys who doesn't want children.  I just don't see myself as a father.  On another forum that I use to visit, a member did give me an advice to seek out an OB/GYN in the Philippines and bribe them for a list of barren women.  Is this good advice, or even legal advice?  Also it seems to border on stalking, or should I try finding a woman in a country where the push to have kids isn't so strong? 

Well welcome to the board NC
can i ask how old you are?

I never thought that i had any real interest in farthering children.
However as i have aged my feelings about them are now different.
don't get me wrong i have no interest in having a wild out of control kid living in my house
I don't feel that any child starts out acting like a P.I.T.A.
there are no bad children just bad parrents.
this may sound harsh or strange or whatever to some of the other members here but these are my true feelings & opinions.


piglett

[NCPilot]

I am 25, and I know that people get excited over little kids, I know my brother and his wife are excited about their son and daughter, but I just don't feel the same way.  I just don't have that drive to reproduce. 

[Ray]

1.  I know that family is very big in the culture, and many women want children.  However, I'm one of those guys who doesn't want children.  I just don't see myself as a father.  On another forum that I use to visit, a member did give me an advice to seek out an OB/GYN in the Philippines and bribe them for a list of barren women.  Is this good advice, or even legal advice?  Also it seems to border on stalking, or should I try finding a woman in a country where the push to have kids isn't so strong? 

2. I am not Christian.  I am a follower of German Paganism, which means I worship Gods like Thor, Odin, Freya etc.  How is that viewed in The Philippines?

1. Bribe an OBGYN for a list of barren women? Who the hell came up with that idea? I think that has to be one of the most ridiculous ideas I have ever heard on this forum. BAD ADVICE! Very few Filipina women even visit an OBGYN anyway. They won’t know that they are barren in most all cases until they try for a pregnancy.

Most Filipina women want to have children. You should be up front with any ladies you start communications with and let them know that you definitely do not want children. That will cut your prospects for that country drastically.

2. Yes, approximately 85% of Filipinos are Catholic. I don’t think most of the ladies will insist that you also be Catholic, or even Christian, but this paganism worship won’t fly over there. They will mostly expect you to at least believe in the same God, even if you don’t actively worship. Again, this will cut your field of eligible ladies even further.

Have you considered communist mainland China?

I think the great majority of women in any Asian country will want to have children, unless maybe they are in their mid to late forties and still childless.

Ray

[NCPilot]

So, what are my chances in Eastern Europe and Russia?

[piglett]

I am 25, and I know that people get excited over little kids, I know my brother and his wife are excited about their son and daughter, but I just don't feel the same way.  I just don't have that drive to reproduce. 

your still young dude. I can tell you that i have a much much different outlook on life now at 39 than i did at 25.
you don't know who you will be in 10 years & neither do I.
what is important rite now may not be at all important years from now.
I am still not looking to rush into the kid thing, however i can see it happening in +/- 5 years
I know that almost any woman that i marry will want at least 1 child at some point.
this is just how they are wired.
It is sort of like you as a guy are wired to want sex with a woman.
If guys were not wired this way none of us would be here.


piglett

[Freddie_May]

Hi NC,

I hope you don't mind if i share my point of view..

1. I agree with Piglett with this one. You are still young, you might see things differently 5 or 7 years from now. But I admire that you are honest about not eager to have a child. Just remember that they are individuals. Maybe there are some who doesn't want to have kids.

2. Well, in this modern world, people respect other people's religion and belief. Even if they are Catholic, I doubt that they will force you to convert, or push their belief on you. Its a bit tricky if u have kids, but since you don't want to have kids. I don't see any problem.

Good luck and enjoy your search..




Freddie

[piglett]

good to see ya back on the board Freddie
can I ask if you have decided to resume your search?
or are your still giving it some additional though?


piglett

[bcc_1_2]

2. Well, in this modern world, people respect other people's religion and belief.

Actually, I'd say people (try) to tolerate them. LOL I loved the part about even if they are catholic though. Good times.

Anyways truth be told NC's beliefs aren't all that out there. Catholics believe they are eating the body and blood of christ (call them cannibals and see what happens).

Well my point is NC isn't anymore crazy or weird than the next "spiritual" person, but while a person of a more mainstream religion might tolerate him... would they live with him and be his wife?

Seriously something to think about. When most latinas asked about my religion I told them I grew up catholic, but I no longer practice. On the first few dates I'd just leave it at that. Try explaining German Paganism through a language barrier over a bottle of wine.

At least I could be passed of as catholic to the parentals.

[Freddie_May]

Hmmmm..... you got a point, bcc..

I just thought there are openminded girls out there, who wouldn't mind celebrating yule with him, eventhough she's a catholic.

I am asian n a catholic... I wouldn't break up with a guy just coz of his belief.

Its not a dead end..

[Freddie_May]

good to see ya back on the board Freddie
can I ask if you have decided to resume your search?
or are your still giving it some additional though?


piglett

Hi piglett,

Nahhh, still not searching. I do make some new male friends, but that's all they are.
Just enjoy being single, for now.


Freddie

[Capstone]

Have you considered communist mainland China?

His desire to not have children will rule out probably 99% of those Chinese women who do not already have a child. It is an ingrained part of Chinese culture to have children. My wife still finds it odd that many people in the US don't want to have kids - she says that she has never known anyone in China that does not.

Sean's religious beliefs would not be a big deal in China but his desire to not have children would be a big show stopper IMO.

[Bear]

The idea of asking a doctor for results of examinations smells of illegal and inappropriate actions that could get you in trouble.  I think its really just plain ridiculous.  Honesty is the right way. Period.

As for your religious preferences and being married to a Filipina; it will not prevent you from marrying BUT after married they will revert to how they were raised and your life will become a living hell because they will want children and to have them raised and practise their beliefs.  If Don2222 were around anymore he could confirm this one because children was one of the two points that broke up his marriage; and he wanted children just not when she did.  Consider how one is raised and how they are comfortable living when you make such choices - a person who is raised fishing everyday isn't going to be happy living in a desert.  When you take someone out of their element then they become even more dependent on you to provide their needs/satisfactions.  So no children, no religion, in a strange country, probably no family - wow thats 4 strikes already.

Might try other areas of Asia but I think the R.P. is not a good opportunity for you.

The Bear Family

[Bob_S]

I just thought there are openminded girls out there, who wouldn't mind celebrating yule with him, eventhough she's a catholic.
I am asian n a catholic... I wouldn't break up with a guy just coz of his belief.
Its not a dead end..

Celebrating Yule wouldn't be a problem.  But what other traditions and rituals go with it?  I greatly enjoy my wife's Shinto traditions.  Though before we got married, I stated and she agreed that if we have children, they'd be raised Christian.  And she supports it by going with me to take our little girl to Sunday School.  So I try to be open-minded about any Buddhist or Shinto traditions she wants us to take part in.

I imagine any Filipina will want her children raised Catholic, or at least Christian in some denomination even if she is tolerant of her husband's personal beliefs.

Germanic Neopaganism might be compatible with poly/pan-theistic Shinto-ism.  Shinto has lots of colorful fun festivals.  Do you got anything to compare?  You might want to look into it.  And with Japan's ever-declining birth rate, you probably could find some ladies who are also willing to forgo child-rearing.

[piglett]

Hi piglett,

Nahhh, still not searching. I do make some new male friends, but that's all they are.
Just enjoy being single, for now.
Freddie

i bet 1 of these days a male "friend" will jump on a plane & come to sweep you off your feet.
your lucky Freddie that i already have a girlfriend because i would want to take you home with me


best of luck
piglett  

[Dave H]

Hi NCPilot,

Even though most Filipinas are pretty devout Catholics, the bigger problem (bigger than religion) that I see is that most Filipinas want children. I suspect that is true with Asian ladies in general. You may find a lady who can't have any, but most ladies in your age range are quite fertile. Those ladies that can't become pregnant might want to adopt or raise a child from a family member.

As to religion, most Catholic Filipinas just want to practice their religion, but won't try to force it on you. Perhaps Germanic paganism might be OK as long your rituals don't involve running around the house with naked chicks.  Of course she would probably prefer a Catholic wedding as to a pagan one. My ancient ancestors practiced Germanic paganism. 

Dave