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Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« on: May 11, 2011, 01:46:45 PM »
This piece was written by a martial arts friend of mine, I would like to share it with you guys/gals. Although I edited & added a few things- all credit goes to Daigoro.
 
Why the Super-fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao that everyone would love to see never happen or may never happen.

Steroid Accusation:

During August & September of 2009, Floyd Mayweather Sr (Floyd Mayweather Jr’s father) a retired professional fighter publicly states he believes Manny Pacquiao is using steroids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRH6Ehf32bo&fmt=18

Floyd Mayweather Sr. (Jr's father), accuses Manny Pacquiao of taking steroids, supplements.
Manny,  in order to subdue controversy started by Floyd Senior and Roger Mayweather, files a lawsuit against the Mayweather team for defamation of character. 
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4783321
 
The accusations by the Mayweather’s camp that Manny Pacquiao is using steroids because of the weight classes he is constantly moving up in. Freddie Roach replies to critics and tells everyone ‘’it’s not steroids, it’s beans and rice, trust me”.

Random Blood Test:
Floyd demands OSDT-RBT (Random Blood Testing) for Manny Pacquiao.
Note that random blood testing is not a requirement from Boxing Governing bodies but Manny did agree to it.

In deference to governing bodies whose credibility has been put to question by that demand, Pacman initially refuses.
After Mayweather’s victory over Shane Mosley in May 2010, Floyd was asked by HBO's commentator & Senior Boxing Historian Larry Merchant: “Let’s talk about the fight everyone wants to see, you and Manny Pacquiao’’. Floyd replied ‘’No blood test, no fight’’.
   
Manny, wanting to continue his legacy of taking on every challenger (ducking no one) and to satisfy the growing demand of fans around the world, he agrees to take the test. Under a stipulation by Freddie Roach a 24 day cut off is announced in order not to interfere with his actual training, followed by a test AFTER the fight but Floyd wanted 14 days & stuck to it.

Manny then requested 18 days but Floyd Mayweather Jr refuses. That negotiation collapsed due to Floyd’s intransigence, insults, and smear campaign.

After Pacquiao defeated “Joshua Clottey”, Manny wanting to give everyone what they wanted, accepted Mayweather’s 14 days test before the fight. But Mayweather Jr (after his defeat of Mosley) changed his tune and asks for OSDT-RBT up to the day of the fight. So the demand went from 14 days to “up to the day of the fight”.

 Pacman’s team wanting the fight to happen said to "Team Mayweather" that they will meet them half-way and asks for a 7 day cut-off. But Floyd replied ‘’my way or no way’’ then finally Pacquiao’s team expressed that they were willing to take the test anytime and anywhere.
 
After hearing Pacman’s last reply, the Mayweather camp suddenly became silent, and Floyd Jr. took the opportunity up to going into semi-retirement/retirement a second time, claiming ‘’he has nothing else to prove in the sport’’ and that he wanted to take time to raise his children etc,.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ4IEPuv3yw
 
http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports-in-national/floyd-mayweather-jr-is-the-ultimate-coward-for-choosing-retirement-over-manny-pacquiao
 
http://trueslant.com/bencohen/2010/06/07/is-floyd-mayweather-retiring-again/

Floyd Mayweather jr. Is "Afraid" Of Manny Pacquiao! – The Sports Report Girl.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgd1MWsvOsQ&feature=channel_video_title
 
The story continues….
Floyd claimed there were no more negotiations, that they had come to a halt or disputes between Bob Arum and Camp Mayweather, but Ross Greenburg (president of HBO sports) said there was a second negotiation of which he tried to act as mediator between Top Rank (Bob Arum’s boxing circuit) and the Mayweather’s team.
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/07/26/hbos-ross-greenburg-floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-negotiatio/
 
Due to the Mayweather’s team evasive tactics, excuses and stalling that negotiation failed.

During the Margarito post fight interview, Manny was asked how important a match with Mayweather was to him. He replied ‘’I really don’t need him, I’m satisfied with my success and all the accomplishments I’ve made in boxing’’
http://www.nesn.com/2010/11/manny-pacquiao-doesnt-need-floyd-mayweather-to-enhance-his-legacy.html
 
Mayweather's $100,000,000 demand - Yes one Hundred Million dollars demand.

There was a third negotiation initiated by Bob Arum in March 2011.That negotiations came to a halt when the Mayweather camp asked for $100,000,000. At  first everyone thought it was a joke, and that Bob Arum was lying, but when Roger Mayweather (Jr’s Uncle and trainer) was asked ‘by Elie Seckbach (AOL News, LA Times, ESNews) ’what would it take for his Floyd and Pacquiao to Fight. Roger Mayweather replied:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIKedIMYFu4&feature=channel_video_title
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2011, 05:32:28 PM »
 
Mayweather is a stinking COWARD and everyone knows it.
 
I guess Pacquiao has run out of any real competition for now. I guess he is fighting Margarito again in November... 
 
 
 

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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 08:04:21 AM »
I used to have a great uncle Floyd & he was cool but i don't think he was much of a boxer either
 
 
 
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 07:39:03 PM »
I would agree that this is one fight that we will never see!!  Mayweather is too much of a coward to fight Manny as he knows he will lose!!!  (but I would love to go and see this one if a miracle happened and it was arranged)
 
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 09:24:17 PM »
I think that little Floyd needs to realize that his legacy will be defined by Pacquiao no matter what, good or bad, and I think unfortunately, it will be for bad.

 
If he never fights Manny, any claim that he puts out, undefeated record or not, of being the greatest ever in his weight class, will be questioned because he basically refused to fight the only guy who stood a real good chance of whupping his chicken shyt ass. I sometimes shoot the breeze with some hard core dudes in the very poor black inner city here, where my work takes me sometimes and those fellas KNOW boxing. They feel that Mayweather will look gutless in the long run if he doesn't man up here. They begrudgingly admit thinking 'Sugar Shane' Mosley and Margarito have shown more guts than Mayweather has.

 
For the rest of his life, he will at best hear whispers, real and imagined, or at worse cat calls and chicken cackles, calling him out for his cowardice when he ventures out in public. He has a huge ego and can't fathom it right now, but I bet if he doesn't fight Manny, eventually it will make him bitter, maybe crazier than he already is.

 
I don't like Mayweather, but I begrudgingly have to admit that he is a great fighter, particularly on defense--perhaps one of the greatest defensive fighters ever. And therein lies the rub. He's never, as far as I know, ever really had to go 'toe to toe' and swap some heavy punches for any length of time from a guy who don't dance. And regarding Pacquaio, to paraphrase the immortal words of 'The Boss'--Bruce Springsteen, -->"This guy don't dance, and the word's been passed this is our last chance".

 
No, it doesn't look like it's shaping up to the epic, Godzilla versus King Kong like bouts--FIGHTS like Frazier--Ali---Foreman--no 'Bungle in the Jungle' or Thrilla in Manila' here, sadly enough. And the public deserves such spectacle and to the warriors, go the spoils.

 
Very, very few fighters have the stamina and and ability to throw, not just as many punches, but as many punches that CONNNECT, as Manny Pacquiao does. Right now, fighting Manny is like fighting not just an indefatigable windmill, but one that has buzzsaws on it. As we used to say as kids: "The guy don't know quit". For all his dancing, jabbing and defensive artistry, we don't really know if Mayweather can take a good punch, but we do know that Pacquiao can throw one.

 
Pacquiao wasn't always anywhere near as good as he is now. At 53 wins, 3 losses and 1 tie--a record that Mayweather loves to belittle,  he's come up the old school way--in 'the school of hard knocks'  and learned his lessons well along that way.

 
Sad thing is that if there were a series of three fights between these two, they'd most certainly walk away with 200 million apiece. Mayweather has a reputation for being immature, morally, legally and financially irresponsible. Yes, Iron Mike Tyson was able to piss away upwards of 400 million dollars, and Floyd, especially with his family's help, could do the same. But if little Floyd wants to keep his Rolls Royce's and 45 watches for a while, he's gonna need some insurance money.

 
A lot of people think he's trying to wait until Manny gets old and loses his edge, but the fact is that Manny's actually about a year younger than Floyd and despite humbly saying he has nothing left to prove, I think he has a burning desire that isn't going away anytime soon, to complete his career by whupping Floyd's mouthy ass and in doing so, bringing the glory home to the Philippines. Pacquiao is said to be very well invested, back in the Philippines, with diversified holdings and could likely retire financially comfortably after one fight with Mayweather.
 
In a blood sport like boxing, that might not be a bad idea and going out on top, never having dodged a contender, it would be quite a fairy tale come true.

 
It's INSANE to think Mayweather doesn't want this fight, but the guy is an insane, egotistical maniac, smart in some ways, but stupid in others. He doesn't hear what he doesn't want to hear and doesn't allow people around him who might be able to talk some sense into him. He puts too much stock in his family of clowns he calls his handlers and trainers. He foolishly thinks he can retire undefeated, financially set forever, without fighing Pacquaio and STILL have a great and respectable legacy.

It ain't so, I'm afraid and the shame's all on lil Floyd....
 
« Last Edit: May 16, 2011, 09:59:41 PM by robert angel »
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2015, 03:06:42 PM »
Well...it looks like its finally going to happen May 2nd. Anybody care to venture a guess as to who'll win? Been several years since either fighter has knocked anyone out and I think that Pacquiao (last KO 2009) is going have to knock out Mayweather if he's going to win, as Mayweather's very good (slippery)on defense and at picking up points.

The judges have given Mayweather a slim edge on point cards a number of times, allowing him to remain undefeated and generally speaking, the Champion sort of enjoys a 'home field' advantage with a lot of boxing judges.

Then again, Mayweather hasn't fought many left handers. It should be an interesting fight, as both boxers are said to be training hard and have altered their normal training preparation to more exactly 'fit' their opponents expected fighting style.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2015, 03:11:10 PM »
I don't think Pacquiao is going to have to knock out Floyd to win.  I think he will win handily on the scorecard. 
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2015, 03:27:42 PM »
I don't think Pacquiao is going to have to knock out Floyd to win.  I think he will win handily on the scorecard.

I hope you're right or that he otherwise knocks Mayweather out.

I think that in a way similar to the Muhammad Ali - Joe Frazier fights, this may go to three bouts, although at the age these two guys are, it certainly isn't the best thing for their health. But if they stand to make 200 million plus each for two more fights, I suppose no matter how much they've earned, it'd be hard to resist. More than one boxer has ended up broke after making incredible amounts of money and these guys both live 'larger than life' lifestyles.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2015, 04:32:22 PM »
I don't think Pacquiao is going to have to knock out Floyd to win.  I think he will win handily on the scorecard.
Manny will start fast; by late in the fight Money will have figured him out and will be potshotting his way to a clear decision victory

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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2015, 05:02:53 PM »
Manny will start fast; by late in the fight Money will have figured him out and will be potshotting his way to a clear decision victory

Pacquiao does fight like windmill on meth and neither of these guys are getting any younger, so there's reason for concern here. Pacquiao will have to control the pace and not get sloppy--Mayweather can slip punches and dance--he's an artful dodger for sure.

It's in the later rounds that I'm concerned about--if Mayweather's still in there, dipping and letting punches slip off of his shoulders and scoring points with jabs and hooks as is his typical style, it could be decided in his favor. A lot of jabs add up to more points than do several solid body punches, although most people don't realize the hurting those body punches put on an opponent.

My Uncle Luke --who was Golden Gloves Champion of the Bronx in his day, always used to tell me:"Robert--once a boxer's legs are gone, he's done" and Pacquiao's own camp (this may be subterfuge) has been saying they are training with an eye on not wearing out his legs too much.  He's had leg cramp issues for a few years now.  I don't think there's anybody who'll be going into the ring with more heart than Pacquiao, but he's gonna need more than heart.

Even though Mayweather's a bit older than Manny, I think time has taken more of a toll on Pacquiao's skills--he hasn't KO'd a fighter since 2009. Mayweather may be a jerk, but it's said he doesn't drink or do drugs--he's not the off the wall party dog  a lot of people think he is. A wife and woman beater and illiterate, yes. Manny cooled his party jets only after his wife Jinky was an inch away from leaving him. Importantly, Mayweather hasn't taken nearly as many punches as Pacqauio has, much less in fact than most pro fighters who've had close to 50 fights have.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2015, 07:27:44 PM »
Pacquiao does fight like windmill on meth and neither of these guys are getting any younger, so there's reason for concern here. Pacquiao will have to control the pace and not get sloppy--Mayweather can slip punches and dance--he's an artful dodger for sure.

It's in the later rounds that I'm concerned about--if Mayweather's still in there, dipping and letting punches slip off of his shoulders and scoring points with jabs and hooks as is his typical style, it could be decided in his favor. A lot of jabs add up to more points than do several solid body punches, although most people don't realize the hurting those body punches put on an opponent.

My Uncle Luke --who was Golden Gloves Champion of the Bronx in his day, always used to tell me:"Robert--once a boxer's legs are gone, he's done" and Pacquiao's own camp (this may be subterfuge) has been saying they are training with an eye on not wearing out his legs too much.  He's had leg cramp issues for a few years now.  I don't think there's anybody who'll be going into the ring with more heart than Pacquiao, but he's gonna need more than heart.

Even though Mayweather's a bit older than Manny, I think time has taken more of a toll on Pacquiao's skills--he hasn't KO'd a fighter since 2009. Mayweather may be a jerk, but it's said he doesn't drink or do drugs--he's not the off the wall party dog  a lot of people think he is. A wife and woman beater and illiterate, yes. Manny cooled his party jets only after his wife Jinky was an inch away from leaving him. Importantly, Mayweather hasn't taken nearly as many punches as Pacqauio has, much less in fact than most pro fighters who've had close to 50 fights have.
In 2009 I favored Manny, but he no longer can fight 3 minutes of every round and that helps May weather...

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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2015, 08:33:12 AM »
Manny is going to be on ESPN First Take Today at 11:40am ET.  Always fun with Skip Bayless and Stephen A.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2015, 08:48:31 AM »
Manny is going to be on ESPN First Take Today at 11:40am ET.  Always fun with Skip Bayless and Stephen A.

I may catch it on-line later. Thanks. But Manny's such a nice guy that I doubt if it'd be too interesting--he doesn't typically say a whole lot. His trainer, Freddie Roach on the other hand, is trash talking the Mayweather camp about as much as Mayweather typically does his opponent's and it's amusing and at the same time a bit informative, with Roach claiming Mayweather's legs are going already.

>>I don’t think he’s (Mayweather) passed it at all. I think his legs are a little shot, a little worn, and I think Pacquiao has better legs at this moment at this time. I think maybe Pacquiao is a little faster and hits a little bit harder. Mayweather has a little fragile hands and is not the biggest puncher in the world. But I think we have more assets to win the fight I feel.<<

I have to agree, but Roach has also recently stated that Mayweather having his family work his corner is one of Pacquiao's greatest advantages. LOL.

>>He also told Yahoo Sports that he thought Mayweather's current trainer, Floyd Mayweather Sr., the fighter's father, was not near as good as Mayweather's former trainer, his uncle Roger Mayweather, and that it would cost Mayweather on fight night.

"I think Floyd Sr. is a terrible cornerman, I really do," Roach said. "That's going to work to our advantage on fight night because in the corner, I'm not going to be nervous and I'll be able to calmly talk to Manny and make whatever adjustments we have to make.

"But Floyd Sr. can't get his message out in that minute (rest) period. He gets so excited and worked up and he starts to stutter so he can't give his fighter any useful (information)."<<



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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2015, 11:21:27 AM »
Let me first make it clear that I don't think I'm some boxing expert before someone perceives my humble opinion as an expert analysis. In the next paragragh I'm just going to write what I think is going to happen in this fight.  :D


Mayweather will be on the retreat for at least 5 rounds. He'll let Manny come forward and attempt to turn it into a brawl, counterpunching when given the opportunity but not taking any real chancces. (i.e. Ricky Hatton, Carlos Baldomir, Canelo, etc.). Manny has long stated that overwhelming aggression might be the best way to beat Mayweather. Laying it on him and accepting the fact that you're going to catch the occasional counter punch in the nose. His short jabs and that little pocket uppercut he has definitely hurt like hell but they aren't nearly as devastating as that straight right or that left hook he will land after dodging a punch his opponent put entirely too much weight into. Pacquiao might be able to weather that storm for a few roungs. Manny thinks staying in Floyd's grill, continuously punching and preventing him from using distance to utilize his superior speed is probably the best way to go. The most dangerous thing about Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is his patience and his ability to never get emotionally involved in a fight. He'll have no problem waiting for an older Manny to wear himself out a bit. He also won't get angry or phased if Manny catches him a few times. He'll never stray from his game plan.


I think the fight will go the distance and Mayweather will win a controversal decision on points. I think the first half of the fight is going to be pretty disapointing because Floyd is going to take his time feeling Manny out and trying to frustrate him. The second half will be Floyd slowly and systematically picking Manny apart with counters and footworks. With all that being said, I AM NOT A MAYWEATHER FAN AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO SEE HIS ASS GET KNOCKED OUT!!! I'll end this with two quotes...




"It only takes one punch..." Joe Frazier


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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2015, 11:55:33 AM »
Here is the clip from First Take.   Worth a watch as it is enjoyable.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2015, 01:34:09 PM »
Here is the clip from First Take.   Worth a watch as it is enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UPToQpA9rw


Manny seems very confident as usual. The simple fact is however, if a guy that can run twice as fast as you punches you in the face then runs away. And you chase him until you're dead tired. Then he comes back, punches you in the face and runs again...you're pretty much going to slowly get your ass whipped for as long as you're willing to chase him. The good thing is inside the ring you can't literally run, but Floyd most definitely can backpeddle, duck, dodge, bob and weave faster than any other fighter. The bad thing is Manny can't give up and stop chasing him as one could do in my original analogy. So all he can do is keep coming forward and taking that drawn out ass whipping.


I really hope things go differently, but I know Floyd Mayweather. In a few of his last half a dozen fights he's shown a willingness to be the aggressor and come forward at times. I think on May 2nd however, we'll be seeing Classic Floyd in all his splendor.

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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2015, 01:53:05 PM »
We'll see but Floyd has never fought anyone as good as Pacquiao.  I think everyone is really overlooking the Pacman.  And Floyd has all the pressure going into this fight being the favorite.  But it's all talk and who really knows what will happen.   I can't wait for May 2nd.   Should be awesome...Go Pacquiao!
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2015, 08:07:29 PM »
I may catch it on-line later. Thanks. But Manny's such a nice guy that I doubt if it'd be too interesting--he doesn't typically say a whole lot. His trainer, Freddie Roach on the other hand, is trash talking the Mayweather camp about as much as Mayweather typically does his opponent's and it's amusing and at the same time a bit informative, with Roach claiming Mayweather's legs are going already.

>>I don’t think he’s (Mayweather) passed it at all. I think his legs are a little shot, a little worn, and I think Pacquiao has better legs at this moment at this time. I think maybe Pacquiao is a little faster and hits a little bit harder. Mayweather has a little fragile hands and is not the biggest puncher in the world. But I think we have more assets to win the fight I feel.<<

I have to agree, but Roach has also recently stated that Mayweather having his family work his corner is one of Pacquiao's greatest advantages. LOL.

>>He also told Yahoo Sports that he thought Mayweather's current trainer, Floyd Mayweather Sr., the fighter's father, was not near as good as Mayweather's former trainer, his uncle Roger Mayweather, and that it would cost Mayweather on fight night.

"I think Floyd Sr. is a terrible cornerman, I really do," Roach said. "That's going to work to our advantage on fight night because in the corner, I'm not going to be nervous and I'll be able to calmly talk to Manny and make whatever adjustments we have to make.

"But Floyd Sr. can't get his message out in that minute (rest) period. He gets so excited and worked up and he starts to stutter so he can't give his fighter any useful (information)."<<
Floyd doesn't need a corner man, his ring IQ is the best in the game. He keeps his uncle and dad around because they are family and both work the mitts well. Manny has slipped way more than Floyd has. Manny is still elite but he is nowhere the fighter he was in 2009 because his work rate has diminished. Floyd has been in with freaky quick southpaws. Zab Judah was causing him problems early but once Floyd figured him out he dominated him. Floyd by decision over Manny. If I was married to a pinay I wouldn't say that because the Filipino pride in Manny is incredible....

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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2015, 07:40:31 AM »
Let me first make it clear that I don't think I'm some boxing expert before someone perceives my humble opinion as an expert analysis. In the next paragragh I'm just going to write what I think is going to happen in this fight.  :D


Mayweather will be on the retreat for at least 5 rounds. He'll let Manny come forward and attempt to turn it into a brawl, counterpunching when given the opportunity but not taking any real chancces. (i.e. Ricky Hatton, Carlos Baldomir, Canelo, etc.). Manny has long stated that overwhelming aggression might be the best way to beat Mayweather. Laying it on him and accepting the fact that you're going to catch the occasional counter punch in the nose. His short jabs and that little pocket uppercut he has definitely hurt like hell but they aren't nearly as devastating as that straight right or that left hook he will land after dodging a punch his opponent put entirely too much weight into. Pacquiao might be able to weather that storm for a few roungs. Manny thinks staying in Floyd's grill, continuously punching and preventing him from using distance to utilize his superior speed is probably the best way to go. The most dangerous thing about Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is his patience and his ability to never get emotionally involved in a fight. He'll have no problem waiting for an older Manny to wear himself out a bit. He also won't get angry or phased if Manny catches him a few times. He'll never stray from his game plan.


I think the fight will go the distance and Mayweather will win a controversal decision on points. I think the first half of the fight is going to be pretty disapointing because Floyd is going to take his time feeling Manny out and trying to frustrate him. The second half will be Floyd slowly and systematically picking Manny apart with counters and footworks. With all that being said, I AM NOT A MAYWEATHER FAN AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO SEE HIS ASS GET KNOCKED OUT!!! I'll end this with two quotes...




"It only takes one punch..." Joe Frazier


"Boxing is not about hitting. Any fool can hit! Boxing is making the other fella miss!" Noah in the Movie Gladiator (played by Ossie Davis)

I think what's said here is a pretty good analysis and that while we all probably agree it's impossible to predict, the pieces fit.

I have to begrudgingly give Mayweather respect as a boxer. His defensive moves, ability to detect incomings--his eyes and reflexes are incredibly fast. His eyes at times almost look like he's afraid, but he's thinking every nano second, making adjustments. as George Foreman said: "In boxing, I had a lot of fear. Fear was good." He said he had no fear against Ali. He lost.

A little different than Benjio's astute analysis , but I think in the early rounds, we'll see the classic Floyd back pedaling and dancing while scoring points, then he'll go into the 'holding mode, preserving himself by using the clinch while trying to minimize Manny's body punch impact. Then in the later rounds, he'll probably be able to figure out the best way for him to deal with Manny. As the rounds wind down, Pacquaio will have to take more chances, as I think on only one judge's card in Mayweather's 47 fights has a judge ever given the other fighter more points. Compare that to Pacquaio--Bradley. It's almost like the judges like Mayweather.

Both fighters will be in great shape this time. Neither are perfect gents, but both give millions to charity, feeding the homeless--it's odd that Mayweather who it seems that the only thing he can't control is his mouth and the police, remains quiet about his charitable activity, which is admirable. He may seem dumb, but he's not stupid. His schooling, since about age three has been the boxing gym.

Pacquiao does a lot too and feels the weight of over 100 million Filipino's dreams on his shoulders. He came from utter poverty and this will be the fight for which he and Mayweather will likely be remembered for above. But Pacquaio probably has more of an axe to grind--more pressure. Surprisingly, that could also work in Mayweather's favor. As Manny himself said: "Boxing is not about your feelings. It's about performance."

But one punch and ten seconds can be all it takes between rounds one and twelve.

Mayweather's personal life may be a mess and he might not be able to read a book, but the guy can read a fight.

“I Made a Lot of Mistakes out of the Ring, but I Never Made Any in It.” Jack Johson, first black heavy weight champion, in 1908 (who was known foremost for his defensive skills)
« Last Edit: March 12, 2015, 07:55:42 AM by robert angel »
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2015, 09:15:18 PM »
>>"Former heavyweight Mike Tyson believes Manny Pacquiao has the upper hand going into his May 2 bout against Floyd Mayweather Jr., giving the advantage to Pacman due to the stylistic differences between both fighters.

Anticipation continues to build for the long-awaited fight, and Tyson is but the latest to give his two cents on how the welterweight clash will play out. As reported by the Daily Mail's Jeff Powell, he's been convinced Pacquiao would win from the moment the fight was announced:

 
"I thought from the start that Pacquiao is going to win. This guy is perpetual motion. He comes from every angle. He’s all energy. Always throwing punches. Never stops.

Floyd tucks in and picks his shots and he is more accurate. But he doesn’t throw anything like Manny’s hundred punches a round.

It’s unlikely he can knock Manny out so if he wants to win he’s got to change. Unless he throws more punches he can’t win the rounds."

He provided more details in a video he made for his personal YouTube channel, detailing some of the key differences between both fighters:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSLaIpFM66k

Opinions seem split on the May 2 fight, with Mayweather installed as a slight favourite by the oddsmakers, per Powell. The 38-year-old is undefeated, entering the contest with a record of 47 wins with 26 knockouts.

Mayweather's shoulder-roll defence has served him well throughout the years, but it's exactly this aspect of his style Tyson fears will hurt him against Pacquiao. The Filipino slugger has too much hand speed to lose to a static target, and indeed, Mayweather's lack of movement was particularly evident in his fight against Marcos Maidana.

CompuBox owner Bob Canobbio noted Mayweather took far more punches in that fight than he usually does, as he told Bleacher Report:"<<



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2395474-mike-tyson-casts-floyd-mayweather-vs-manny-pacquiao-fight-prediction

Tyson still looks baddd--as in he could still kick some azz....
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