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Dad finally gets son back from Brazil
« on: December 24, 2009, 04:16:25 PM »
I'm happy to see this story.  If indeed Hillary helped this man in any relevent way to get the boy back, I gotta give her a kiss next time I see her! :D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091224/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_brazil_us_custody_battle

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Re: Dad finally gets son back from Brazil
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2009, 01:41:54 PM »


  Where is Hillary mentioned in this story?


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Re: Dad finally gets son back from Brazil
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2009, 03:16:29 PM »

  Where is Hillary mentioned in this story?


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Hilary is not the important part of the story but here are some links since you are curious.
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091224/pl_afp/braziluschildcustodyflightclinton_20091224184756

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90852/6852197.html

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Re: Dad finally gets son back from Brazil
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2009, 03:16:29 PM »

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Re: Dad finally gets son back from Brazil
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2009, 04:34:47 PM »




      The only thing she did was speak publicly for his return(which is good) but she wasn't directly involved.


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Re: Dad finally gets son back from Brazil
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2009, 06:31:03 PM »
     What I found most interesting about these situations is that within an international marriage a spouse can take a child to a foreign country without permission from the other parent.  Which means if a unknowing/unprepared man is at work he could come home one day and find his wife and child are flown to Brazil/Colombia etc and there is nothing he would have done to prevent it.   

Here is what I read a parent can do to prevent this from happening.

If parents are separated and international abduction is a concern, a parent with the right to custody or visitation of a child may ask the State Department to “flag” any attempt to use the child’s passport.
• A parent can register with the Children’s Passport Issuance Alert Program, to alert them if the other parent applies for a US passport. This does not prevent a parent from applying for a passport from a foreign country, if eligible.
• If a parent suspects an abduction is about to occur, he or she can seek emergency relief from a judge to pick up the child. They can also contact the State Department Office of Children Issues, the National Center For Missing and Exploited Children, immigration and state and federal authorities and airlines to detain the abducting parent before leaving or upon entry.
• Those getting a divorce in an international marriage should make sure they have a custody decree that addresses Hague considerations and requires the foreign parent to post a significant bond before international travel
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Re: Dad finally gets son back from Brazil
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2009, 06:52:27 PM »


  That's good  info fathertime.I wonder if the Dad would have been out of luck if  the US government had not gotten involved.Anyway, that's good info for any guy that has or plans to have kids with a foreign woman.


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Re: Dad finally gets son back from Brazil
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2009, 07:15:02 PM »
     What I found most interesting about these situations is that within an international marriage a spouse can take a child to a foreign country without permission from the other parent.  Which means if a unknowing/unprepared man is at work he could come home one day and find his wife and child are flown to Brazil/Colombia etc and there is nothing he would have done to prevent it.   

Here is what I read a parent can do to prevent this from happening.

If parents are separated and international abduction is a concern, a parent with the right to custody or visitation of a child may ask the State Department to “flag” any attempt to use the child’s passport.
• A parent can register with the Children’s Passport Issuance Alert Program, to alert them if the other parent applies for a US passport. This does not prevent a parent from applying for a passport from a foreign country, if eligible.
• If a parent suspects an abduction is about to occur, he or she can seek emergency relief from a judge to pick up the child. They can also contact the State Department Office of Children Issues, the National Center For Missing and Exploited Children, immigration and state and federal authorities and airlines to detain the abducting parent before leaving or upon entry.
• Those getting a divorce in an international marriage should make sure they have a custody decree that addresses Hague considerations and requires the foreign parent to post a significant bond before international travel
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This case began when the wife was unhappy in her marriage and went home for 2 weeks vacation with the child. In reality, she planned to divorce. Husband immediately filed in the US. WIfe somehow divorces in Brazil and gets orders that she was not entitled to. New husband was a big shot in the family court in Brazil. . WIfe DIES and still the non-blood family tries to keep the child.

Unfortunately, this is the same country that had difficulty recognizing custody rights over Elian Gonzales just a few years ago and now the shoe was at least partly on the other foot.

HERE IS WHAT YOU REALLY REALLY NEED TO DO IF YOU ARE DIVORCING.

FIRST- Dont play malt shop or have an adult  discussion in the kitchen. You file  for an OSC at the same time  as you file your dissolution and you have her served.  You make sure that you know where the passports for the child are at all times.  Mom's passport is hers; you cant mess with that. Get your temporary orders restricting travel and then talk.

I really wonder why dad didnt see anything wrong in the relationship. I means, 2 week vacationand had o idea?
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Re: Dad finally gets son back from Brazil
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2009, 04:40:55 PM »
This Brazilian family are a bunch of  incredible meddling bastards.

 1st they keep this man from his son for a period of years, despite court rulings then
after they have completely run out of ways to keep him from his rightful father, they drag the kid publicly through the streets to the airport.  Now they want the child to decide where he wants to live just days after he has arrived in the USA.  Of course all he knows at this point is his Brazilian adoptive family, but that is due to their withholding of him from his father, who was trying to see him all along.  

As far as I’m concerned the father should be monitoring any conversation between the child and adoptive family in Brazil, because they are likely going to continue to poison the boy’s mind.  They are lucky he is allowing them to talk to the child at all, given what they are plotting.  

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091229/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_brazil_us_custody_battle


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Re: Dad finally gets son back from Brazil
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2009, 09:05:33 PM »
This guy was smart enough to use the legal system. Just a couple of months ago, an American man divorced from a Japanese woman, flew to Japan and tried to bring his children back to the states. I think he is still rotting in a Japanese jail.

I am on another board. There is this one Brazilian guy, and he says this is a common thing for Brazilian women to do. Imagine how far the child support money would go if she could get it from you enforced by the USA.

 

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