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Title: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: mudd on September 30, 2014, 09:35:39 AM
http://todaycolombia.com/2014/09/no-to-sex-tourism-in-medellin/
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Gato4Astrid on September 30, 2014, 11:06:16 AM
http://todaycolombia.com/2014/09/no-to-sex-tourism-in-medellin/ (http://todaycolombia.com/2014/09/no-to-sex-tourism-in-medellin/)


They have ruins girls of Medellin.   Not easy for us (genuine) to find women for serious relationships nowdays
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: buencamino on September 30, 2014, 12:16:37 PM
I don't see what's wrong with gringos traveling to Colombia and paying hookers for sex other than the girls figuring out they can hike their prices. After all it's good for the girls personal economy and good for the economy of Colombia. I saw a funny photo joke on a facebook page that was circulating among the barrio girls. It showed a girl in a short tight dress standing at her door about to leave and a dog looking at her with his dish in his mouth. In the blurb the dog says "¿Cuando terminas de putiar me vas  dar la comida?
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on September 30, 2014, 01:05:50 PM
Yeah.. and according to some people, any guy that goes to Colombia is a monger, and anytime a gringo or foreigner is with a Colombiana its sex tourism. The line has to be drawn somewhere, depends wheer you draw the line. I myself draw it at 18 years of age, but its a pretty black and white division there.


quote author=buencamino link=topic=7931.msg119302#msg119302 date=1412100997]
I don't see what's wrong with gringos traveling to Colombia and paying hookers for sex other than the girls figuring out they can hike their prices. After all it's good for the girls personal economy and good for the economy of Colombia. I saw a funny photo joke on a facebook page that was circulating among the barrio girls. It showed a girl in a short tight dress standing at her door about to leave and a dog looking at her with his dish in his mouth. In the blurb the dog says "¿Cuando terminas de putiar me vas  dar la comida?
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Awesome on September 30, 2014, 02:50:17 PM
I think they're pissing in the wind with that campaign.




I personally don't see anything wrong with prostitution.  Adults should be free to do whatever they want with their own bodies.  I just think it's extremely tacky when guys parade their barrio prepagos around poblado, but hey they are contributing to the economy.  And medellin has way worse problems to deal with than sex tourism.  The underage stuff should definitely be cracked down on, but I don't know how widespread it actually is.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: mudd on September 30, 2014, 04:40:24 PM
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I personally don't see anything wrong with prostitution.  Adults should be free to do whatever they want with their own bodies.  I just think it's extremely tacky when guys parade their barrio prepagos around poblado, but hey they are contributing to the economy.  And medellin has way worse problems to deal with than sex tourism.  The underage stuff should definitely be cracked down on, but I don't know how widespread it actually is.



i agree, noting wrong with prostitution if two people want to have sex and one wants something for it, as long as nobody is getting hurt or not passing a disease, who cares.


but the underage gringos with minors ( under 18) in medellin is a big problem, and you have to check ID, some girls  will lie about their age.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: mudd on September 30, 2014, 04:42:12 PM

i agree, noting wrong with prostitution if two people want to have sex and one wants something for it, as long as nobody is getting hurt or not passing a disease, who cares.




but the underage gringos with minors ( under 18) in medellin is a big problem, and you have to check ID, some girls  will lie about their age

Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: bernard on September 30, 2014, 05:54:51 PM


but the underage gringos with minors ( under 18) in medellin is a big problem, and you have to check ID, some girls  will lie about their age


Underage gringos with minors?   There shouldn't be anything wrong with that.   I personally have never seen any underage gringos in Medellin or anywhere else in Colombia for that matter
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: mudd on September 30, 2014, 06:49:31 PM



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but the underage gringos with minors ( under 18) in medellin is a big problem, and you have to check ID, some girls  will lie about their age




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should have been


but the gringos with minors ( under 18) in medellin is a big problem, and you have to check ID, some girls  will lie about their age
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: bernard on September 30, 2014, 08:36:15 PM
Since prostitution is legal in Colombia (only pimping is illegal), this should not be an issue.  Actually I would wager a guess that 98% of prostitution in Colombia is geared towards Colombian men, rather than foreigners.  If prepagos in Medellin had to rely on the money they made from foreigners, they would not be able to survive.  Colombian men are who keep all the whorehouses, clubs, and prepagos in business in Medellin and elsewhere.  Of course, running with underage women is illegal for citizens of the US, however it is not a problem for Colombian men, and again, they far outweigh foreign men in this category also.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Gato4Astrid on October 01, 2014, 07:49:30 AM
Bernand


Is that why you are in Colombia knowing that prostitution is legal?
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: robert angel on October 01, 2014, 08:53:28 AM
Bernand


Is that why you are in Colombia knowing that prostitution is legal?

I wonder why guys who are 'there' are even on here. When I'm abroad, I barely have time to slip into an internet café and check my e mail. I guess more guys have smart phones and bring laptops, but still...

Unless you're really cold blooded and have zero powers scoring with women, I also have no idea of why guys would 'pay for play'--even if 'no strings attached' has an attraction to them. I'm no hunk by a long shot and I have to turn down attractive women's--shall we say 'overtures'? pretty often and that's wearing a wedding ring and not baiting them. If you dress fairly nice, look halfway decent, smell good and have most of your teeth, they're going to come on to you.

As to girls lying about their age and especially where it's illegal, them being in cahoots with the cops and setting up tourists to make them pay large amounts of money or otherwise have the dupes sit in hell hole jails until they pay off large, that's a really old game too.

But as sure as there are cats and dogs, sex tourism will go on. Advertising campaigns may win elections, but they don't change primal urges

When the hot young chicks start hitting on me, I remember what Paul Newman said about not fooling around on his wife--I think they were married 50+ years: "Why fool around with hamburger when you have steak at home?”
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Gavan on October 01, 2014, 10:47:08 AM
I don't really  think prostitution is morally wrong (as long as the women aren't underage or forced into it), however I do think it is creepy and disgusting. And it can't be fun or psychologically healthy for the women to be used for sex by who knows how many creepy men .

Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Calipro on October 01, 2014, 11:39:17 AM
http://todaycolombia.com/2014/09/no-to-sex-tourism-in-medellin/ (http://todaycolombia.com/2014/09/no-to-sex-tourism-in-medellin/)


thanks for the absolutely pointless post.....unless it was to get the board back on topic....you know...gringos are creepy and colombianas are mostly prepagos....so I prefer to lead a lonely sexless life. LOL !
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 01, 2014, 11:54:46 AM
Why are you fighting with Mudd for Calipro? As far as I can see, hes the only normal guy on this site. And I say "normal" in a very relative sense.


As far as getting beautiful women in Colombia, you and EVERYONE else on this site  could learn a lot from MUDD. Dont know you or anyone else personally on this site (I mistakenly thought you were Arthur Bode before), but I can say, apart from the lawyer  post ( I know who he was talking about and where he got the info. from) Mudd is a straight shooter- a no bullsh!tter, and very modest and thoughtful  in what he posts.The only criticism I would have for him is he could do good if he learned a bit more Spanish and spoke it  a lot more, and tried to get into the culture more.



thanks for the absolutely pointless post.....unless it was to get the board back on topic....you know...gringos are creepy and colombianas are mostly prepagos....so I prefer to lead a lonely sexless life. LOL !
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 01, 2014, 12:10:11 PM
besides.. this site was getting dead..so he livened it up a bit with something "Cut and pasted" from another forum.. maybe you could post something more "useful" perhaps??
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 01, 2014, 12:13:04 PM

with all due respect,, I think filipinas are a bit more desperate than Latinas- apart from Cuba and the DR..

I wonder why guys who are 'there' are even on here. When I'm abroad, I barely have time to slip into an internet café and check my e mail. I guess more guys have smart phones and bring laptops, but still...

Unless you're really cold blooded and have zero powers scoring with women, I also have no idea of why guys would 'pay for play'--even if 'no strings attached' has an attraction to them. I'm no hunk by a long shot and I have to turn down attractive women's--shall we say 'overtures'? pretty often and that's wearing a wedding ring and not baiting them. If you dress fairly nice, look halfway decent, smell good and have most of your teeth, they're going to come on to you.

As to girls lying about their age and especially where it's illegal, them being in cahoots with the cops and setting up tourists to make them pay large amounts of money or otherwise have the dupes sit in hell hole jails until they pay off large, that's a really old game too.

But as sure as there are cats and dogs, sex tourism will go on. Advertising campaigns may win elections, but they don't change primal urges

When the hot young chicks start hitting on me, I remember what Paul Newman said about not fooling around on his wife--I think they were married 50+ years: "Why fool around with hamburger when you have steak at home?”
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Calipro on October 01, 2014, 12:15:59 PM
Why are you fighting with Mudd for Calipro? As far as I can see, hes the only normal guy on this site. And I say "normal" in a very relative sense.


As far as getting beautiful women in Colombia, you and EVERYONE else on this site  could learn a lot from MUDD. Dont know you or anyone else personally on this site (I mistakenly thought you were Arthur Bode before), but I can say, apart from the lawyer  post ( I know who he was talking about and where he got the info. from) Mudd is a straight shooter- a no bullsh!tter, and very modest and thoughtful  in what he posts.The only criticism I would have for him is he could do good if he learned a bit more Spanish and spoke it  a lot more, and tried to get into the culture more.


sorry for coming off as confrontational but what could be more pointless than posting a video clip complaining about sex tourists in a country where prostitution happens to be legal. And as far as gringos with minors .....it is an incredibly small problem compared to Colombianos with minors .....seeing how the age of consent is 14 in Colombia.


Anyway I digress......back to the more important topic of creepy gringos and morally challenged colombianas.  jajaja
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: bernard on October 01, 2014, 12:28:11 PM
I wonder why guys who are 'there' are even on here. When I'm abroad, I barely have time to slip into an internet café and check my e mail. I guess more guys have smart phones and bring laptops, but still...

Unless you're really cold blooded and have zero powers scoring with women, I also have no idea of why guys would 'pay for play'--even if 'no strings attached' has an attraction to them. I'm no hunk by a long shot and I have to turn down attractive women's--shall we say 'overtures'? pretty often and that's wearing a wedding ring and not baiting them. If you dress fairly nice, look halfway decent, smell good and have most of your teeth, they're going to come on to you.

As to girls lying about their age and especially where it's illegal, them being in cahoots with the cops and setting up tourists to make them pay large amounts of money or otherwise have the dupes sit in hell hole jails until they pay off large, that's a really old game too.

But as sure as there are cats and dogs, sex tourism will go on. Advertising campaigns may win elections, but they don't change primal urges

When the hot young chicks start hitting on me, I remember what Paul Newman said about not fooling around on his wife--I think they were married 50+ years: "Why fool around with hamburger when you have steak at home?”


I've never understood why "happily" married men are here....especially those that comment on every post under the sun, and not with just a few sentences, but with 8-10 rambling paragraphs, most of which don't make much sense.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: fathertime on October 01, 2014, 03:46:29 PM
Why are you fighting with Mudd for Calipro? As far as I can see, hes the only normal guy on this site. And I say "normal" in a very relative sense.

 


I wouldn't argue that I'm normal, nor do I care to be really, but what makes you say that mudd is normal?  Quite a few guys here seem relatively normal from their writings.  I'm not getting what you mean by normal and how you have reached that conclusion. Maybe you can clarify if you don't mind.   
Thanks,


Fathertime!   
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Gato4Astrid on October 01, 2014, 03:59:59 PM
I don't really  think prostitution is morally wrong (as long as the women aren't underage or forced into it),


Do you have a daughter who isn't underage?  Can she become my prostitute?  (since you don't think it is morally wrong)
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: bernard on October 01, 2014, 04:05:03 PM

Do you have a daughter who isn't underage?  Can she become my prostitute?  (since you don't think it is morally wrong)

I wouldn't want anyone's daughter having sex with you Gato....poor girl would be scarred for life.  Would be just a terrible terrible experience, and yes, morally wrong.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Gavan on October 01, 2014, 04:35:29 PM

Do you have a daughter who isn't underage?  Can she become my prostitute?  (since you don't think it is morally wrong)


No I don't have a daughter, but if I did have one of course I wouldn't want her to be a prostitute. As I said, I think it is a disgusting job and probably psychologically damaging as well, not to mention the risks of all kinds of diseases and so on. However I don't think that means that prostitution should be banned or that it should be a crime to be a prostitute.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 01, 2014, 05:55:25 PM
Sorry a bit tongue n cheek there..I meant to say he is the only guy I know here..so only guy I 100% know who is "Relatively" Sane.And I include myself in
the "other" category ::) :D


I wouldn't argue that I'm normal, nor do I care to be really, but what makes you say that mudd is normal?  Quite a few guys here seem relatively normal from their writings.  I'm not getting what you mean by normal and how you have reached that conclusion. Maybe you can clarify if you don't mind.   
Thanks,
S

Fathertime!
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Gato4Astrid on October 01, 2014, 07:18:11 PM
I know a 60 years old man (USA) dating a 21 years old girl from Ukraine but he complaint that his 21 years old daughter is dating a 45 years old man (local).   How is that fair?   
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Awesome on October 01, 2014, 08:28:56 PM
Like I said, pissing in the wind.


Prostitution is alive and very well all over north america, south america, europe, and asia.  Hell, the only place it's not legal or very tolerated is the middle east which happens to be the most f*cked up region on earth so what does that tell you?
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: benjio on October 02, 2014, 10:03:07 PM
The sexual abuse of underage girls is a very unfortunate aspect of prostitution in Latin America and Asia. But these crusades usually completely disregard the fact that a lot of grown women actually prefer that lifestyle. I'm sure everyone here has heard the stories about women that have had genuine opportunities to stop and they continue selling their bodies. People try to explain that behavior as a sort of mental illness but I'm starting to think some girls just really like sex and money. I've seen too many cases here of foreigners taking very good care of women and they still work as GDP's whenever the guys not in town.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 02, 2014, 10:14:56 PM
I dont care how gorgeous the women is..you gotta have Zero self Respect and Zero Self esteem if you are having a "serious" relationship with a Puta. The worst thing a guy can be is a "Capitan Salva Puta" (Cap'n save a ho)




The sexual abuse of underage girls is a very unfortunate aspect of prostitution in Latin America and Asia. But these crusades usually completely disregard the fact that a lot of grown women actually prefer that lifestyle. I'm sure everyone here has heard the stories about women that have had genuine opportunities to stop and they continue selling their bodies. People try to explain that behavior as a sort of mental illness but I'm starting to think some girls just really like sex and money. I've seen too many cases here of foreigners taking very good care of women and they still work as GDP's whenever the guys not in town.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: benjio on October 03, 2014, 06:22:11 AM
I dont care how gorgeous the women is..you gotta have Zero self Respect and Zero Self esteem if you are having a "serious" relationship with a Puta. The worst thing a guy can be is a "Capitan Salva Puta" (Cap'n save a ho)


Yep...shameful but a lot more common than one might have ever thought. There are foreign men that come here, meet a girl on the P4P scene and eventually marry them.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: bernard on October 03, 2014, 06:46:18 AM

Yep...shameful but a lot more common than one might have ever thought. There are foreign men that come here, meet a girl on the P4P scene and eventually marry them.

More than that, there are some who have relationships with what they think are "normal" girls, when they are prepagos on the side.  In Colombia there are cases of TV personalities being high paid prepagos, flight attendants, bank tellers, etc., what you might think are "normal" girls.  Hell, EL EX has probably been with a few, who knows?  Not cracking on EL EX, it's just the reality of Colombia.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Gavan on October 03, 2014, 06:50:47 AM
People try to explain that behavior as a sort of mental illness but I'm starting to think some girls just really like sex and money.


I doubt they like the sex with all those sleazy gross men, but you may be right about the money. And yes I do think many prostitutes are somewhat mentally ill.


Here is a video about prostitutes in Trujillo, Peru (one is Colombian). Those women look completely mentally messed up. I don't understand how anyone can find that appealing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWoQRWLi9hs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWoQRWLi9hs)
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: robert angel on October 03, 2014, 10:06:59 AM
There have been tales of hookers with hearts of gold--movies like 'Pretty Woman" and the hilarious Eddie Murphy, Dan Akroid and Jamie Les Curtis in "Trading Places" and I've met guys who got involved with hookers--bar girls too.

But once you start selling your body, everything changes. Your body becomes a 'commodity' and you feel as it's desirable--something men want, that you're special. And they are--they can screw and not have any emotions get in the way. I'd guess that's pretty common--easy for most men, but unusual for women.

As has been said, even after (if)  they get married and no longer need the money, some still do it 'on the side' anyway. Maybe they get bored and feel like getting guys lined up to pay them based on their looks is good for their self esteem. It's really hard to tell why they continue to do it and how even if they don't go back, they know it's an option if things get rough, but I wouldn't recommend a guy getting too serious with someone who is (or has been) an outright hooker or even a bar girl for that matter. Old ways die hard....
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: buencamino on October 03, 2014, 10:30:17 AM
Actually the most common cases I've heard of where guys were in "serious" relationships with prostitutes involved Colombians. I knew a girl who told me she had a friend who was a prosti and worked in a casa de citas. I asked her if her friend had a novio and if he knew. She said yes and yes and "es la realidad en Colombia..."
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: bernard on October 03, 2014, 10:37:15 AM
Actually the most common cases I've heard of where guys were in "serious" relationships with prostitutes involved Colombians. I knew a girl who told me she had a friend who was a prosti and worked in a casa de citas. I asked her if her friend had a novio and if he knew. She said yes and yes and "es la realidad en Colombia..."


That's very true, and part of the culture.  If foreign "sex tourists" stopped going to Colombia, it would hardly put a dent into Colombian prostitution market.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: buencamino on October 03, 2014, 10:41:25 AM
...In Colombia there are cases of TV personalities being high paid prepagos, flight attendants, bank tellers, etc...

True. I wonder if Keith Stansell's asafata wife was a prepago.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Gavan on October 03, 2014, 10:42:02 AM
She said yes and yes and "es la realidad en Colombia..."

Pretty sad and messed up. Que pena. I do wonder why prostitution is so common in Colombia though. Even in other countries of South America like Peru and Chile a very high percentage of the prostitutes are Colombian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALHDiGM2uGo
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 03, 2014, 11:29:21 AM
Another reason to do a real thourough background check..

Yep...shameful but a lot more common than one might have ever thought. There are foreign men that come here, meet a girl on the P4P scene and eventually marry them.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 03, 2014, 11:31:32 AM
Heck..maybe I even Married one. :D ..but we should all learn from our mistakes and not do it again..
More than that, there are some who have relationships with what they think are "normal" girls, when they are prepagos on the side.  In Colombia there are cases of TV personalities being high paid prepagos, flight attendants, bank tellers, etc., what you might think are "normal" girls.  Hell, EL EX has probably been with a few, who knows?  Not cracking on EL EX, it's just the reality of Colombia.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 03, 2014, 12:04:29 PM



My ex in peru said that "all Colombian men and all Colombian women cheat, and all Peruvian men cheat, but Peruvian women dont cheat". I asked  " well then, with whom do the Peruvian men cheat?"..she replied "con las putas Colombianas que viven en Peru"


Pretty sad and messed up. Que pena. I do wonder why prostitution is so common in Colombia though. Even in other countries of South America like Peru and Chile a very high percentage of the prostitutes are Colombian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALHDiGM2uGo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALHDiGM2uGo)
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Gavan on October 03, 2014, 12:16:52 PM


My ex in peru said that "all Colombian men and all Colombian women cheat, and all Peruvian men cheat, but Peruvian women dont cheat". I asked  " well then, with whom do the Peruvian men cheat?"..she replied "con las putas Colombianas que viven en Peru"

Jajaja well I think that is a little exaggerated. Most Peruanos cheat with Peruanas and there are plenty of Peruvian hookers as well. But yeah, it does seem like there are a LOT of Colombian putas in Peru.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: benjio on October 03, 2014, 04:17:44 PM

That's very true, and part of the culture.  If foreign "sex tourists" stopped going to Colombia, it would hardly put a dent into Colombian prostitution market.


Yep...that's my experience as well. Lots of girls in Colombia selling their bodies. Women you would have never thought of as hookers. I heard rumors of girls who were university students being part time prepagos during my stint as an English Tutor. It's actually very common amongst girls that are studying at universities if Mom and Dad aren't paying their way. It's always the sweet, quiet ones that do well in every class. Sheeeesh...


You can't get away from prostitutes in Rio unless you're the type of guy that just doesn't ever go out. It's not just the termas or the bars they are known to frequent. The really high end girls hang out in the best discos. It can be quite heartbreaking when some gorgeous girl is staring at you all night from the other end of the club, you finally walk up to her and buy her and drink ane start a nice conversation. Then when it's time to leave you ask what's next and she's throwing her hourly rate at you. I've even had one tell me I owed her money because she hung out with me all night and she lost the opportunity to leave with another guy that would have paid (even though she was drinking from my [snip]ing bottle all night!!!!). Like I had psychic powers, read her mind and knew she was on the job!  ???  MAN SHE WAS PISSED when I laughed in her face after asking for money. Good thing I knew the door guy and the cops outside the club that night because she certainly tried to make a big deal out of it.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Awesome on October 03, 2014, 06:01:27 PM
Damn I never realized prostitution is that common in colombia.  I don't recall ever coming across any "prepagos" in my time spent down there.  But then again I don't think I come across as the type of guy who's looking for hookers.  All the women I hung out with didn't show any signs of prepagoish behavior at all.  Maybe I was lucky, who knows.  The one time I wandered into a "skank" hangout, Farenheit(calipro's favorite spot) I blanked out and I have no recollection of what the hell I did there.


Now I did spend quite a few wild drunk nights in some sleazy strip clubs but that's a totally different scene altogether.



I can say that I've spent alot of time in mexico and from my experiences it's not common at all for women to ask for money to sleep with them.  Hookers have their red light districts where it's understood what's going on, but outside of those designated districts sex for money is pretty much unheard of from what I've seen.  When I was about 23 years old I spent about 5 weeks in the city of zacatecas where I met a med school student/ballet dancer at a disco and we hit it off immediately.  We got our freak on the first night we met, she totally initiated it, and she was my novia the whole time I was in town.  I remember one time she didn't have money to buy minutes for her cell phone and I tried to give her 10 dollars to buy some minutes and she refused to accept it.  I had to argue with her just to get her to accept the money.  I remember telling my mom about her and how she was in her final year of med school and starting her internship as a cancer specialist.  My mom told me I was a fool for not marrying her.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 04, 2014, 06:29:07 AM

LOL..the lady in the bar who wanted to charge you for lost clients in the bar sounds like a typical Canadian Lawyer..or health care administrator..or insurance company minion.. ;D

Regarding Colombian women being students or  industry professionals and prostitutes, Sure..these things happen..and are much more common than in the US or Europe..but you guys talk as if these girls where the majority of girls there..when in fact, they are the vast minority..probably less than 10% of the female population in Colombia has participated in this..still probably 10 times other countries, but still the minority. The problem is, all the Putas living in Colombia and all over the world give Colombia a bad reputation.


I found the worst place Ive been to for hookers was Cuba. They approach you within 5 minutes in a club and make an offer, in the airport, in the streets..but then , Ive never been to Thialand.




The Prostitutes' Education Network stated in its article "Prostitution in The United States - The Statistics," posted on its website (accessed Aug. 28, 2013):
"It is difficult to estimate the number of persons who currently work, or have ever worked as prostitutes for many reasons including the various definitions of prostitution. National arrest figures [in the United States] range over 100,000. The National Task Force on Prostitution suggests that over one million people in the US have worked as prostitutes in the United States, or about 1% of American women."




Yep...that's my experience as well. Lots of girls in Colombia selling their bodies. Women you would have never thought of as hookers. I heard rumors of girls who were university students being part time prepagos during my stint as an English Tutor. It's actually very common amongst girls that are studying at universities if Mom and Dad aren't paying their way. It's always the sweet, quiet ones that do well in every class. Sheeeesh...


You can't get away from prostitutes in Rio unless you're the type of guy that just doesn't ever go out. It's not just the termas or the bars they are known to frequent. The really high end girls hang out in the best discos. It can be quite heartbreaking when some gorgeous girl is staring at you all night from the other end of the club, you finally walk up to her and buy her and drink ane start a nice conversation. Then when it's time to leave you ask what's next and she's throwing her hourly rate at you. I've even had one tell me I owed her money because she hung out with me all night and she lost the opportunity to leave with another guy that would have paid (even though she was drinking from my [snip]ing bottle all night!!!!). Like I had psychic powers, read her mind and knew she was on the job!  ???  MAN SHE WAS PISSED when I laughed in her face after asking for money. Good thing I knew the door guy and the cops outside the club that night because she certainly tried to make a big deal out of it.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Gavan on October 04, 2014, 07:40:22 AM
I found the worst place Ive been to for hookers was Cuba. They approach you within 5 minutes in a club and make an offer, in the airport, in the streets..but then , Ive never been to Thialand.

I have heard that the Dominican Republic also has a lot of prostitution, even more than Colombia. There are supposed to be certain places there where 90% or more of the women are hookers  :o I have never been to the DR, but that is what I have read online, I don't know if it is true.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: bernard on October 04, 2014, 08:43:55 AM


Regarding Colombian women being students or  industry professionals and prostitutes, Sure..these things happen..and are much more common than in the US or Europe..but you guys talk as if these girls where the majority of girls there..when in fact, they are the vast minority..probably less than 10% of the female population in Colombia has participated in this..still probably 10 times other countries, but still the minority.


Where did you read any poster even SLIGHTLY inferring that the majority of Colombian women were prostitutes?


You can by pass the quote feature since its a little difficult for you and just use a simple copy and paste at which you are very adept.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: bernard on October 04, 2014, 09:00:00 AM

Regarding Colombian women being students or  industry professionals and prostitutes, Sure..these things happen..and are much more common than in the US or Europe..but you guys talk as if these girls were the majority... .still probably 10 times other countries, but still the minority.

The Prostitutes' Education Network stated in its article "Prostitution in The United States - The Statistics," posted on its website (accessed Aug. 28, 2013):
"It is difficult to estimate the number of persons who currently work, or have ever worked as prostitutes for many reasons including the various definitions of prostitution. National arrest figures [in the United States] range over 100,000. The National Task Force on Prostitution suggests that over one million people in the US have worked as prostitutes in the United States, or about 1% of American women."


So EX EL, according to your statistics and theories above based on your rational deductions, approximately 10% of Colombian women are prostitutes.  Now, you have spent many years in Colombia dating and romancing Colombian women, I think it would be safe to say you have dated between 50-75 women.  If more please correct me if my assumption is wrong, but no BS since I didn't just fall off the turnip truck.  So based on your statistical analysis, you more than likely dated or maybe had sex with approximately 5-7.5 prepagos....cut it down with a reasonable margin of error, at least one or two.  Now, can you be SO sure that you haven't been with one.  If so, why?
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 04, 2014, 09:35:21 AM

Actually- you missed your chance, you could have called me "EXLAX"..ja.ja. :)

I dont know if its 10% , just a Wild ass Guess... who knows..just think in my opinion its not anywhere near the the majority of the general female population.


Just the way people are posting about how there are so many putas in Colombia, its good to remember that the vast majority of Colombianas dont and never have dabbled in prostitution,


What is your opinion, , what proportion of Colombian Women have prostituted in their lives?


I personally believe it is quite small. But thats just my humble opinion. Also, I said I have not Knowingly been with a prostitute. I havent been living with Colombianas I have met my whole life so, I really dont know. Your probably right, I have probably dated a few unknowingly. But you want to avoid marrying or have a serious relationship  girls with this type of past history, at least I wouldnt. Maybe I am being judgemental, so be it.






So EX EL, according to your statistics and theories above based on your rational deductions, approximately 10% of Colombian women are prostitutes.  Now, you have spent many years in Colombia dating and romancing Colombian women, I think it would be safe to say you have dated between 50-75 women.  If more please correct me if my assumption is wrong, but no BS since I didn't just fall off the turnip truck.  So based on your statistical analysis, you more than likely dated or maybe had sex with approximately 5-7.5 prepagos....cut it down with a reasonable margin of error, at least one or two.  Now, can you be SO sure that you haven't been with one.  If so, why?
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: bernard on October 04, 2014, 09:38:21 AM



What is your opinion, do you think the majority of Colombian Women have prostituted in their lives?





Nope
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Calipro on October 04, 2014, 10:28:15 AM
Actually- you missed your chance, you could have called me "EXLAX"..ja.ja. :)

I dont know if its 10% , just a Wild ass Guess... who knows..just think in my opinion its not anywhere near the the majority of the general female population.


Just the way people are posting about how there are so many putas in Colombia, its good to remember that the vast majority of Colombianas dont and never have dabbled in prostitution,


What is your opinion, , what proportion of Colombian Women have prostituted in their lives?


I personally believe it is quite small. But thats just my humble opinion. Also, I said I have not Knowingly been with a prostitute. I havent been living with Colombianas I have met my whole life so, I really dont know. Your probably right, I have probably dated a few unknowingly. But you want to avoid marrying or have a serious relationship  girls with this type of past history, at least I wouldnt. Maybe I am being judgemental, so be it.


There is only one guy on this thread really pushing the point of view that there are a lot of putas in Colombia and plenty of interesadas in other threads.  Don't you realize when you are being trolled
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: bernard on October 04, 2014, 12:16:49 PM
Hey EX LAX,

quit modifying your posts AFTER I've responded to them....LMAO...you're a trip.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 04, 2014, 05:32:25 PM
Actually, didnt do that-intentionally-unless there was a time delay--like I said "unknowingly"


Hey EX LAX,

quit modifying your posts AFTER I've responded to them....LMAO...you're a trip.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Elexpatriado on October 04, 2014, 05:39:48 PM

If you want a real laff see this site:




http://colombiaforum.cl0.vanillaforums.com/


I only "Copy and Paste" my own posts from there..






There is only one guy on this thread really pushing the point of view that there are a lot of putas in Colombia and plenty of interesadas in other threads.  Don't you realize when you are being trolled
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Fosgate5 on October 20, 2014, 11:11:41 PM
I personally have no problem with the profession but I do have a problem with parts of it. I'll explain. In my area of the US we had Brothels scattered throughout that remained legal up until the early 1980's. http://www.deadwoodmagazine.com/archivedsite/Archives/Girls_Raid.htm I was way to young to ever get involved with such a place but once I graduated high school I joined the Army and went overseas to Germany where I saw the red light districts in villages, Frankfurt and Amsterdam. Never was my thing to go see a hooker but I can see it being the worlds oldest profession and would not be surprised if it was the first exchange of goods in human history.

With that said, what we have today is way different of years past. After all my small midwest home town hung the local brothel keep not because of prostitution...it was at the preachings of Carrie Nation's prohibition of alcohol movement. Sex trade is now underground and it's getting ugly, even here in the U.S. even in po-dunk towns in the Midwest are seeing children being prostituted. Even a local doctor near me got busted for aiding a child sex trafficing ring by keeping the girls as young as 11 doped up on meds. Used to be the only places in the midwest where one could fathom even approaching a prostitute is a strip club. Now with the internet, that has all changed as a person can make arrangments and seek out and feed their darkest desires and it grows until they act. This embolding people act out taboo sexual acts not only affect men as it is proven to affect women as well. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/03/2-teachers-accused-having-group-sex-with-student-at-apartment-in-louisiana/  Our educators even betray our youth now, so why do people act so shocked about underground sex trade going on in foreign countries...or even our own?

My belief is based on personal observation over the years and just simple human reaction. When laws make an activity illegal that activity often gets far worse than the activity was in the first place. Take prohibition for instance, explosion in mob violence, murders etc because people felt a need and the mob filled that need at a hefty cost. One thing I noticed about growing up when the brothels were open, very rare was there a rape compared to today. When I was stationed where I was in Germany same thing. So is it possible that if one has an outlet for sex there may be a correlation between number of rapes cases? Could we possibly assume if someone could go get serviced for $20-50 they would do that rather than risk prison? Could we also come up with the idea that a person could be going after real young girls because they have the thought if they are going to break the law and not get caught they might as well go big? Maybe they get these ideas in their head and decide less risk by going to another country thus the sex tourism trade takes off. The trafficers are simply responding to demand and with it being black market in some countries they know they can make a lot of money from it. Where as what if there was a Bunny Ranch (Nevada) within minutes of everyone? Could the pedophilia and moral degrdation of society be reduced if we treated it like the past or countries who keep prostitution legal today? Clean, in plain site in certain locations, medically screened, watched and taxed? Just some of my thoughts on the matter.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: benjio on October 21, 2014, 10:01:47 AM
My belief is based on personal observation over the years and just simple human reaction. When laws make an activity illegal that activity often gets far worse than the activity was in the first place. Take prohibition for instance, explosion in mob violence, murders etc because people felt a need and the mob filled that need at a hefty cost. One thing I noticed about growing up when the brothels were open, very rare was there a rape compared to today. When I was stationed where I was in Germany same thing. So is it possible that if one has an outlet for sex there may be a correlation between number of rapes cases? Could we possibly assume if someone could go get serviced for $20-50 they would do that rather than risk prison? Could we also come up with the idea that a person could be going after real young girls because they have the thought if they are going to break the law and not get caught they might as well go big? Maybe they get these ideas in their head and decide less risk by going to another country thus the sex tourism trade takes off. The trafficers are simply responding to demand and with it being black market in some countries they know they can make a lot of money from it. Where as what if there was a Bunny Ranch (Nevada) within minutes of everyone? Could the pedophilia and moral degrdation of society be reduced if we treated it like the past or countries who keep prostitution legal today? Clean, in plain site in certain locations, medically screened, watched and taxed? Just some of my thoughts on the matter.


IMHO if it's within a guy to rape a woman and he's given the opportunity, he'll probably do it. No sane man walks around thinking about forcing himself on a woman and I refuse to believe anyone that tells me you can get so horny you can't stop yourself if a girl says "no." Same thing with guys that have sex with underage girls. I don't understand why anyone would do either but they are unfortunately grim parts of reality. I was passing by a church one day in Barranquilla and a couple that just got married was just walking out. Guy had to be in his 40's and the girl didn't look any older than 14. She was actually probably 18 or 19...she was just really petite. But either way, I never understood how and why a man would be sexually attracted to a girl that young. After moving to Brazil and seeing foreign guys chase after underage prostitutes I began to read extensively about pediphilia in an attempt to get some kind of explaination for why it exist and I'm still stumped. Especially in a country like this where prostitution is legal, physically you can pretty much find a GDP that's close enough if not exactly like your dream girl, and even worse you can most likely find a girl that will do any sick, twisted, disgusting sexual act you can think of for the right price. Why some guys prefer to chase after little girls instead boggles my mind.
Title: Re: say no to sex tourism in colombia
Post by: Fosgate5 on October 21, 2014, 12:17:24 PM

IMHO if it's within a guy to rape a woman and he's given the opportunity, he'll probably do it. No sane man walks around thinking about forcing himself on a woman and I refuse to believe anyone that tells me you can get so horny you can't stop yourself if a girl says "no." Same thing with guys that have sex with underage girls. I don't understand why anyone would do either but they are unfortunately grim parts of reality. I was passing by a church one day in Barranquilla and a couple that just got married was just walking out. Guy had to be in his 40's and the girl didn't look any older than 14. She was actually probably 18 or 19...she was just really petite. But either way, I never understood how and why a man would be sexually attracted to a girl that young. After moving to Brazil and seeing foreign guys chase after underage prostitutes I began to read extensively about pediphilia in an attempt to get some kind of explaination for why it exist and I'm still stumped. Especially in a country like this where prostitution is legal, physically you can pretty much find a GDP that's close enough if not exactly like your dream girl, and even worse you can most likely find a girl that will do any sick, twisted, disgusting sexual act you can think of for the right price. Why some guys prefer to chase after little girls instead boggles my mind.

I think your probably correct. I've had a few discussions with a friend of mine who has been in law enforcement for over 15yrs and another retired detective. They both worked inside the local middle and high schools for several years as resource officers. I cant tell you some of the stories they tell that kids do and how even older kids prey only younger girls in high school. They'll tell a story about how a couple 16yr olds are manipulating 12-13yr olds or 12-13 yr olds chasing 8yr olds etc. into sex and sometimes more than one boy will be involved. Then they just comment how it gets let go because no one wants to ruin a young kids lives and no one really knows what to do with it but they will wind up seeing them at some later point in their lives trying to roofie or straight out rape women and kids trying to relive their past. I'm shocked about many of the things I hear from my law enforcement friends as many times you simply don't hear much of what goes on through the press reports if it's even reported.

But like all criminal acts I believe it all starts in small incriments. They cross the line a little bit and don't get caught so they try a little bit more and repeat until they are way over line. Yeah it is a different type of crime Jordon Belfort committed but I like his explanation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-ZpaOmOzew