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Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« on: May 29, 2017, 08:54:55 AM »
 Case in point,  two girls from Medellin, one 20, the other 24. Both 100% completely different in every aspect, in life, mind, education, and family.
 
First, 24 year old girl, comes from well off family in llangrande, family has lot of land, money, businesses. Old money from cattle and horses and farming. She speaks English and  attended  one of the top universities’ in medlelin and finished very high in her class, worked for Kenworth in Medellin.  Everybody  in her family, including her little sister of 17 has a visa for USA. She has no intention of going to USA to work illegally or in the sex business or overstay her visa. Her family was going to Florida to visit Disneyworld, so she needed a visa. You would think this girl would be a perfect candidate for a visa, nope, rejected two times for no reason.
 
 
Now, the other girl 20 years, only one part time job in Fuxion as a  sales girl. Speaks little to no English, family comes for barrio in belen, no money, no assets. Never in a university or real job.  Was 6 months in Cartagena then Panama as a “ working girl ”  got a nose job, lip job,  breast ect. Looks like the typical Medellin  prepago.
 
 but now, her facebook, lots of photos of her in Las Vegas  Nevada. how this girl received a visa, I have no idea. I know why she is in las Vegas, and so does everybody else. Incredible who get s a visa and who doesn’t.



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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2017, 04:30:43 PM »
I think I mentioned this before but there is a lawyer in Bogota now that can guarantee a visitors visa for $1,800,000 pesos. I thought it was just Colombian exaggeration when I first heard it but after two girls I know got visas I recommended him to a friend and now she's in the U.S. too. Only took a couple of weeks. I don't know who this guy knows at the U.S. Embassy in Colombia but his name is getting around. This is no B.S. I have his contact info if anyone is interested.
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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2017, 05:15:25 PM »

Come on Mudd..you know how she got the Visa..hint hint..nudge,,nudge, say no more..


Most of the Visa interviewers are Male Colombian Americans...


Seen the situation you are describing happen before--
« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 07:47:16 PM by Elexpatriado »

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2017, 05:18:29 PM »
So when does this hit the News and all these guys in the US embassy and the lawyer get charged,just like the 3 marines..??
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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2017, 11:44:54 PM »
Come on Mudd..you know how she got the Visa..hint hint..nudge,,nudge, say no more..


Most of the Visa interviewers are Male Colombian Americans...


Seen the situation you are describing happen before--




Have you ever been inside the US Consulate in Bogota?


I've been three times for visa interviews....all the interviewers were American women and I saw only a few men....and none looked to be Colombian.

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2017, 06:19:06 AM »



Have you ever been inside the US Consulate in Bogota?


I've been three times for visa interviews....all the interviewers were American women and I saw only a few men....and none looked to be Colombian.


Maybe they are Lesbians... ;D


I had a friend who said there were a lot of male colombian american interviewers


Anyway, how else would you explain this? Not even a government agency could be that stupid they let the blatant  unemployable hookers in and keep the well established, no-risk people out.


I have heard this happen a lot before from other people. Makes no sense at all.


If there isn´t some type of corruption, it is extreme incompetence, and should be investigated. If I were an American citizen, I would demand it.
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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2017, 07:37:46 AM »
After the 3rd girl got a visa I was also very curious as to how this was happening. I just never bothered to ask the guy. My assumption is he's got people that can cook paperwork. Phony deeds to property that doesn't exist, fake bank statements, fake employment records. How much work do you think the folks working in the embassy put into checking into all this information before approving visas. Then again, maybe the lawyer has people on the other end of the line to verify all the lies whenver someone calls. In a place like Colombia I can't imagine it's that difficult to set something like this up.

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2017, 02:51:11 PM »
What about girls who cant afford the 1.8 million like Mudds girl? Cant they figure out peoples stories dont match the paperwork.

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2017, 12:36:26 AM »


Maybe they are Lesbians... ;D 



I wish....I have faced some pretty tough interviews....separating us and asking questions to see if our answers match.


I had a friend who said there were a lot of male colombian american interviewers




That's what we are here for....to separate fact from fiction. I was there on three separate occasions....no Colombianos in sight. Mostly white women at the windows.





Anyway, how else would you explain this? Not even a government agency could be that stupid they let the blatant  unemployable hookers in and keep the well established, no-risk people out.


I have heard this happen a lot before from other people. Makes no sense at all.




I hear all kinds of things....but I have never actually SEEN a woman that was a blatant unemployable hooker get a visa. Have you?


If there isn´t some type of corruption, it is extreme incompetence, and should be investigated. If I were an American citizen, I would demand it.




I think to demand an investigation one would have to actually come up with some proof and not just stories.
Got any links to the undeserved visa recipient's facebook page?

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2017, 06:17:15 AM »



Have you ever been inside the US Consulate in Bogota?


I've been three times for visa interviews....all the interviewers were American women and I saw only a few men....and none looked to be Colombian.


I was only there once with my wife for her interview. It was a young white woman.

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2017, 06:33:07 AM »


I wish....I have faced some pretty tough interviews....separating us and asking questions to see if our answers match.



That's what we are here for....to separate fact from fiction. I was there on three separate occasions....no Colombianos in sight. Mostly white women at the windows.




I hear all kinds of things....but I have never actually SEEN a woman that was a blatant unemployable hooker get a visa. Have you?



I think to demand an investigation one would have to actually come up with some proof and not just stories.
Got any links to the undeserved visa recipient's facebook page?



Sorry Calipro, with all due respect, I know MUDD and I believe he is telling the truth on this one. I know he has said things way back that were BS (like the Lawyer that said the US embassy could chase you for child support- I believe a lawyer did tell him that - which is obviously BS-I know the Lawyer- he is a commonn name to Expats- he is good at getting visas but inexpeienced in areas beyond that)


I know people personally  who have had all the qualifications and could not get in. Have not known many of the scuzzy illegal hooker types personally who got a visa-I have to admit-but many second hand stories about "Frriends" with no money, no means of support,and intentions to stay illegally.


Maybe it depends on the mood of the interviewer. Maybe things have changed since your interviews.


Sure nobody has any "proof "but where there is smoke there is fire.


And how do you explain Benjios story about the Lawer who cold get anybody in for money? You know that is how things work in Colombia-"Vacuna" or "Palanca"


It is like Colombia Jake. You were praising his  services (Okay maybe you were being facetious) everybody (allthe Expats) in Medellin knew what a scumbag he was. There was a hell of a lot of smoke. And before you knew it, out came a "fire". The justice department and the Colombian Polce arrsted him for pimping. Whether he was set-up for child prostitution is irrelevant.


If I were MUDD , or someone with similar "ancedotal" stories from personal experience, I would pass this information on to the appropriate bodies and let them do the investigation. If people really are against illegal immigration.


If this happened in Canada, and I knew about it, I sure would. Just is not fair, keeping well intentioned , money spending tourists out, and letting illegals or potential illegals in.

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2017, 10:12:09 AM »
now i know, she has many photos on her facebook with some guy, looks like he brought her up on a fiancee visa, wowwww, amazing how stupid men are, no clue about her past as a " working girl " , or maybe he doesnt care, who knows. maybe both are using each other until the fun and money runs out.
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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2017, 05:46:23 PM »
now i know, she has many photos on her facebook with some guy, looks like he brought her up on a fiancee visa, wowwww, amazing how stupid men are, no clue about her past as a " working girl " , or maybe he doesnt care, who knows. maybe both are using each other until the fun and money runs out.

And then the truth finally comes out

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Hooker if they want in their pursuit of happiness jajaja

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2017, 10:44:06 PM »
now i know, she has many photos on her facebook with some guy, looks like he brought her up on a fiancee visa, wowwww, amazing how stupid men are, no clue about her past as a " working girl " , or maybe he doesnt care, who knows. maybe both are using each other until the fun and money runs out.

She's probably got a set of knockers with nipples an inch long, that blinded the guy--so he never saw her farcebook profile...It's amazing what a guy can not see, ignore or tolerate whilst blinded by physical attraction....
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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2017, 02:47:36 PM »
After the 3rd girl got a visa I was also very curious as to how this was happening. I just never bothered to ask the guy. My assumption is he's got people that can cook paperwork. Phony deeds to property that doesn't exist, fake bank statements, fake employment records. How much work do you think the folks working in the embassy put into checking into all this information before approving visas. Then again, maybe the lawyer has people on the other end of the line to verify all the lies whenver someone calls. In a place like Colombia I can't imagine it's that difficult to set something like this up.

Though corruption, bribery, and fake documents are possible explanations, I think well-coached interview techniques are more likely.

Knowing what to say and what not to say at those brief interviews is more important than any documentation, IMHO.

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2017, 06:00:51 PM »
hate weak girls !!!

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 04:16:02 PM »
well, looked her facebook, was in spain for a week after las vegas, now back in medlelin after a month.  maybe " honeymoon" was a short one or the whole thing was  " rent a medellin girlfriend" for a month,  who in the hell knows.   :o

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2017, 07:10:07 AM »
well, looked her facebook, was in spain for a week after las vegas, now back in medlelin after a month.  maybe " honeymoon" was a short one or the whole thing was  " rent a medellin girlfriend" for a month,  who in the hell knows.   :o


These stories always seem to disturb you. Look at this poor enterprising girl using her own initiative to see the world on someone else's dime. Good for her.

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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2017, 07:14:19 AM »

These stories always seem to disturb you. Look at this poor enterprising girl using her own initiative to see the world on someone else's dime. Good for her.


 yes, im sure a few members wife's and girlfriends on here have done the same lol. to each his own.

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2017, 08:46:36 PM »
After the 3rd girl got a visa I was also very curious as to how this was happening. I just never bothered to ask the guy. My assumption is he's got people that can cook paperwork. Phony deeds to property that doesn't exist, fake bank statements, fake employment records. How much work do you think the folks working in the embassy put into checking into all this information before approving visas. Then again, maybe the lawyer has people on the other end of the line to verify all the lies whenver someone calls. In a place like Colombia I can't imagine it's that difficult to set something like this up.


Benjio, it would make more sense to scam from the Colombian side (phony documents, fake profiles) rather than depending on an "inside-man" (or woman) at the US embasy.  Easier done that way, and I would imagine the lawyer has his network, who are 'all - in' for a piece of the action.

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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2017, 07:07:22 AM »

 yes, im sure a few members wife's and girlfriends on here have done the same lol. to each his own.


Probably that's true but I am sure each of them got what they wanted.

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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2017, 10:54:14 AM »

 yes, im sure a few members wife's and girlfriends on here have done the same lol. to each his own.


One man's hoe is another man's lifelong loving wife. jajaja


I just can't see spending a lot of time complaining about women.


I think it is odd that some guys here get so upset that a woman would take money into consideration when deciding who to hook up with or even marry.....without taking a hard look at what they want from the woman.


Do you want beauty, companionship, true love, sex, fidelity and to form a family (either by being a father to her children or having some of your own).


I'm going to try and make this as simple as possible.


If a woman does not what to have your babies she is a hoe.....and if you don't want children with your girlfriend.....you just made her your hoe.


In a colombianas mind.....all relationships that do not involve the potential to have a family are....well....P4P. jajaja


And if you romance women without the intent of forming a serious relationship then you are John.


Any questions?


I see a hand in the back of the audience.


"Yeah but I just want someone that loves me for who I am and that I can grow old with and not be alone"



Then marry an old lady whose children are already grow preferably with grandchildren. jajaja


Don't worry they don't have to be that old....I see many a grandmother at the ripe old age of 36 in Colombia. LMFAO!



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Re: Crazy who gets a visa and who doesn’t
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2017, 04:18:44 PM »

One man's hoe is another man's lifelong loving wife. jajaja


I just can't see spending a lot of time complaining about women.


I think it is odd that some guys here get so upset that a woman would take money into consideration when deciding who to hook up with or even marry.....without taking a hard look at what they want from the woman.


Do you want beauty, companionship, true love, sex, fidelity and to form a family (either by being a father to her children or having some of your own).


I'm going to try and make this as simple as possible.

So what does that make the ones that have 3 different kids from three different fathers?

Loving wives?

Ja ja ja

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Oh well, everyone has thier own opinión on every subject.




If a woman does not what to have your babies she is a hoe.....and if you don't want children with your girlfriend.....you just made her your hoe.


In a colombianas mind.....all relationships that do not involve the potential to have a family are....well....P4P. jajaja


And if you romance women without the intent of forming a serious relationship then you are John.


Any questions?


I see a hand in the back of the audience.


"Yeah but I just want someone that loves me for who I am and that I can grow old with and not be alone"



Then marry an old lady whose children are already grow preferably with grandchildren. jajaja


Don't worry they don't have to be that old....I see many a grandmother at the ripe old age of 36 in Colombia. LMFAO!

So what does that make the ones that have 3 different kids from three different fathers?

Loving wives?

Ja ja ja

World according to CP...

Oh well, everyone has thier own opinión on every subject.

« Last Edit: July 17, 2017, 04:21:03 PM by Elexpatriado »

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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2017, 04:26:12 PM »
So what does that make the ones that have 3 different kids from three different fathers?


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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2017, 10:35:08 PM »
Gullible


I know One who did it with 3 or 4 different Gringos for profit.

That makes the Gringos the ones who are the gullible ones.

 

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