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« on: September 06, 2018, 11:14:37 AM »
What do you guys think about bringing a girl that you’re interested in, here on an English school ESL Student Visa so there is some real time to get to know her?


Paying to enroll her in an English School for 6 mos. seems like a much better way then a fiancé visa, or going into a marriage too soon without enough time spent together.


After 6 months she could even extend the visa another 6 months if necessary.  Of course she’d have to go to school....  If things don’t work out long term, she goes back home with better English skills, and the guy is out several thousand dollars in tuition.  Not the cheapest route, but very low risk.


In a perfect world, we could post a bond, and bring guests in as we choose.  But that’s not the country we live in,,....

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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2018, 11:44:32 AM »
Sounds like a good idea to me-- that in horse racing, track bet terms, you're covering your 'bet'  pretty good. You're putting down money, hoping to win long term ( I assume ) But this way, you're also betting that this pony will ' show ' and placing a bet accordingly to not only to insure that, but allowing a lot more time to see what she's like here in the USA. Probably with a ton less paperwork hassle than a fiancee visa would entail.

I say that, not knowing if you have to sign off, meaning co sign anything to get her into the USA or how much money to get going on a student visa entails. If it was THAT easy, a lot of sugar daddies would have a sweet life indeed.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2018, 12:59:09 PM »
What do you guys think about bringing a girl that you’re interested in, here on an English school ESL Student Visa so there is some real time to get to know her?


Paying to enroll her in an English School for 6 mos. seems like a much better way then a fiancé visa, or going into a marriage too soon without enough time spent together.


After 6 months she could even extend the visa another 6 months if necessary.  Of course she’d have to go to school....  If things don’t work out long term, she goes back home with better English skills, and the guy is out several thousand dollars in tuition.  Not the cheapest route, but very low risk.


In a perfect world, we could post a bond, and bring guests in as we choose.  But that’s not the country we live in,,....


If you have the money it is doable.


The school tuition has to be paid before you apply for the student visa and she has to show that she has enough money in the bank to live for six months in the states to get the visa.


If you really know the chick well and trust her you could just put 10 or 15 grand in her bank account and she would have a decent chance of getting a tourist visa.


And after she gets the visa or not....she can give you the money back.

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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2018, 01:33:24 PM »
I originally came to the US on a student visa when I went to law school. I had to show that I had enough money for my tuition and living expenses. Later I got married and adjusted status to permanent resident. In fact I practiced law in New England before I was even a US citizen.


Fronting a chick with that kind of money that you don't really know that well is a risk which may or may not pay off. Of course so is a spousal or fiancee visa. With the student visa, she could marry someone else and there is nothing you could do about it.








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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2018, 03:50:30 PM »

If you have the money it is doable.


The school tuition has to be paid before you apply for the student visa and she has to show that she has enough money in the bank to live for six months in the states to get the visa.


If you really know the chick well and trust her you could just put 10 or 15 grand in her bank account and she would have a decent chance of getting a tourist visa.


And after she gets the visa or not....she can give you the money back.

If that's the case, for a lot of babes, 10-15 grand safe in her bank back in Mexico and being able to 'take the money and run' namely getting/ keeping the money and a student visa to wit, and dumping you, would be awfully tempting.

And all those college boys wandering around campus.....
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2018, 06:35:50 PM »
If that's the case, for a lot of babes, 10-15 grand safe in her bank back in Mexico and being able to 'take the money and run' namely getting/ keeping the money and a student visa to wit, and dumping you, would be awfully tempting.

And all those college boys wandering around campus.....


Sure but some girls are looking at the long run.


I have never seen the so many girls date down in my life until I hit Colombia.
Plenty of attractive Colombianas date guys that are 2 to 3 points below them in the looks department.


My guess is they are looking for someone to commit rather than sleeping with the hottest stud they can find. Or they have incredibly bad taste in men. jajaja


When I looked at pics of my girlfriend's past boyfriends I was shocked to realize that I'm the probably best looking guy she has ever dated. jajaja


I hope she at least got a one night stand in there some where with a guy better looking than myself.
Who knows.... maybe she got humped and dumped quite a few times before she decided she would settle for a guy 26 years older than her. Or maybe her mom dropped her on her head when she was a baby.


I still don't fully understand what motivates these Colombianas. jajaja

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Re: Student Visas
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2018, 09:54:23 PM »
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Sure but some girls are looking at the long run.


I have never seen the so many girls date down in my life until I hit Colombia.
Plenty of attractive Colombianas date guys that are 2 to 3 points below them in the looks department.


My guess is they are looking for someone to commit rather than sleeping with the hottest stud they can find. Or they have incredibly bad taste in men. jajaja


When I looked at pics of my girlfriend's past boyfriends I was shocked to realize that I'm the probably best looking guy she has ever dated. jajaja


I hope she at least got a one night stand in there some where with a guy better looking than myself.
Who knows.... maybe she got humped and dumped quite a few times before she decided she would settle for a guy 26 years older than her. Or maybe her mom dropped her on her head when she was a baby.


I still don't fully understand what motivates these Colombianas. jajaja
I asked my friend Coladmin at the old colombiahelp.com forum about that. He said that most of the women want stability. They generally have been screwed over by their ex, leaving them for a newer or 'late-model' edition. If they find somebody that is true to them, they seem to look past the (ahem)features. I often wonder whatever became of Coladmin.

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2018, 07:03:03 AM »
Canadian women seem to frequently date down as well. Plenty of times I've been on a Canadian beach and I see a chick who looks good in her bikini with some schlub. The guy will have a beer belly and half bald and I think, what is she doing with him? Of course he could be a great guy with a good job and plenty of money so who knows? 

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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2018, 10:24:21 AM »
Calipro said:I asked my friend Coladmin at the old colombiahelp.com forum about that. He said that most of the women want stability. They generally have been screwed over by their ex, leaving them for a newer or 'late-model' edition. If they find somebody that is true to them, they seem to look past the (ahem)features. I often wonder whatever became of Coladmin.

My wife never had any serious relationships with guys before she met me. She certainly had seen a lot of relationship dynamics growing up in the village, and then at University for five years, then working at Coca-Cola corporate , both in the big city.

She saw a lot of guys screwing around on their GFs. wives, the Mistress 'culture' amongst those with more money, etc.

It'd probably be about the 'end' if she physically caught me with another woman, but she knows I cant help but look at a sexy woman and knows that I can't help but flirt, strike up a flirty conversation with the same,
but the unwritten rule is: "You can look, but you better not touch".

Hell, she tells ME ( with an odd sense of pride and humor) when she senses another woman likes me or is visually checking me out, "hitting on you" she says in 'USA speak' but in public, she won't allow herself eye contact with men. And she's, if I dare say myself, 'eye candy' and I have to give guys the 'death stare' in public sometimes when they're obviously trying to undress her with their eyes.

But she's 'old school' in a fashion that's rapidly disappearing in 3rd world countries, but she's NOT a stupid robot.

She said she chose older me because she thought I'd be more mature, stable. Couldn't have been for money, as I've never really had a lot and besides, my two sons always were (are) vying for it. Her work income is now more than my pension! Danger zone, Will Robinson!

Funny thing is to be painfully honest, she has almost like a built in mental gyroscope, one that makes her temper stable and her decisions calm and rational. She's quick to get over those rare disagreements. Perhaps her greatest fault is that she's too generous.

She just got back from taking her family to Hong Kong, Disneyland and Macau, China. We'd saved for the trip for a while and somehow, she was still somehow able to return with over $500 left over. I told her I was amazed and proud of her. I should've told her her to put it straight into the bank account for her next car.

Well, next time at church, she put a hundred dollar bill in the collection basket--arrgh! And nooooo, I wasn't gonna pull that Benjamin back out. It was her 'way' of thanking God for the the trip, for her Mom's health and the family being able to enjoy it together.

I sometimes tease her, tell her that she's "such a damn Girl Scout", but when I get pissed and crazy, she's always somehow able to take the clip out of my gun, before I go 'bat sh!t crazy'.

Yea, I'm not typically a dorky, immature husband like some of her friend's husbands are, but there's times where she's calmer and more mature than me.

Some of the guys her friends married are real lightweights.

Best thing is that she doesn't harp on it when I'm fixing to do something crazy, and she typically tries to make me think that when we change our mind, that it was my, or at least, "our" decision, LOL.

But yea,  lot of younger babes are at least hoping, that marrying an older, hopefully more mature, stable, well off goat like us will save them a lot of grief! Ha!
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2018, 11:43:42 AM »
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My wife never had any serious relationships with guys before she met me. She certainly had seen a lot of relationship dynamics growing up in the village, and then at University for five years, then working at Coca-Cola corporate , both in the big city.

She saw a lot of guys screwing around on their GFs. wives, the Mistress 'culture' amongst those with more money, etc.

It'd probably be about the 'end' if she physically caught me with another woman, but she knows I cant help but look at a sexy woman and knows that I can't help but flirt, strike up a flirty conversation with the same,
but the unwritten rule is: "You can look, but you better not touch".

Hell, she tells ME ( with an odd sense of pride and humor) when she senses another woman likes me or is visually checking me out, "hitting on you" she says in 'USA speak' but in public, she won't allow herself eye contact with men. And she's, if I dare say myself, 'eye candy' and I have to give guys the 'death stare' in public sometimes when they're obviously trying to undress her with their eyes.

But she's 'old school' in a fashion that's rapidly disappearing in 3rd world countries, but she's NOT a stupid robot.

She said she chose older me because she thought I'd be more mature, stable. Couldn't have been for money, as I've never really had a lot and besides, my two sons always were (are) vying for it. Her work income is now more than my pension! Danger zone, Will Robinson!

Funny thing is to be painfully honest, she has almost like a built in mental gyroscope, one that makes her temper stable and her decisions calm and rational. She's quick to get over those rare disagreements. Perhaps her greatest fault is that she's too generous.

She just got back from taking her family to Hong Kong, Disneyland and Macau, China. We'd saved for the trip for a while and somehow, she was still somehow able to return with over $500 left over. I told her I was amazed and proud of her. I should've told her her to put it straight into the bank account for her next car.

Well, next time at church, she put a hundred dollar bill in the collection basket--arrgh! And nooooo, I wasn't gonna pull that Benjamin back out. It was her 'way' of thanking God for the the trip, for her Mom's health and the family being able to enjoy it together.

I sometimes tease her, tell her that she's "such a damn Girl Scout", but when I get pissed and crazy, she's always somehow able to take the clip out of my gun, before I go 'bat sh!t crazy'.

Yea, I'm not typically a dorky, immature husband like some of her friend's husbands are, but there's times where she's calmer and more mature than me.

Some of the guys her friends married are real lightweights.

Best thing is that she doesn't harp on it when I'm fixing to do something crazy, and she typically tries to make me think that when we change our mind, that it was my, or at least, "our" decision, LOL.

But yea,  lot of younger babes are at least hoping, that marrying an older, hopefully more mature, stable, well off goat like us will save them a lot of grief! Ha!
I remember hearing horror stories from 'shipmates' when I was in the Navy about their girlfriends in the PI. They were loving, good cooks, frugal. But God help you if she learned you were 'playing in a different ball field'. I guess the best term to sum it is you would be 'Bobitt-ized!'

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Re: Student Visas
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2018, 01:03:25 PM »
Robert angel said:I remember hearing horror stories from 'shipmates' when I was in the Navy about their girlfriends in the PI. They were loving, good cooks, frugal. But God help you if she learned you were 'playing in a different ball field'. I guess the best term to sum it is you would be 'Bobitt-ized!'

And with the epidemic of one worse than the next lawyer commercials: "Slip and fall, THEN CALL!" and the grocery store tabloids, the celebrity shows and phone apps like Entertainment Tonight, TMZ and others, that follow the 'news', showing all the break ups and  the money involved, just to be divied up.

Is it any wonder that an 'evil seed' is implanted into otherwise loyal women's brains?

Unless you are 'off the grid' - - It's  impossible for someone not to think that we're in a culture where relationships, marriages are not only disposable, but that it's very lucrative to exercise these readily available options.

After all, as these shiester lawyers are quick to point out via TV, billboards etc., that it doesn't cost a dime for a woman, really for anyone, to start a case, and if their 'client' doesn't make $$$$, there's nothing to them to lose, but for the woman, there's some one that they're able to quickly lose, turning him into an 'ex' and then move onto a new potential victim/s.

And if lawyer's advertising and the break up obsessed media isn't enough, if your wife is hungry for 'friends' and you don't choose carefully, she may end up with some seasoned sharks,--women she counts as 'friends'---even women from her own country, who are more than happy to hand her their lawyer's cards and explain how they can collect child support, alimony and be free to 'cruise' and find a new buck to ride, all the while collecting off the ex. We keep our circle of 'friends' very small.

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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2018, 09:47:44 AM »

If you have the money it is doable.


The school tuition has to be paid before you apply for the student visa and she has to show that she has enough money in the bank to live for six months in the states to get the visa.


If you really know the chick well and trust her you could just put 10 or 15 grand in her bank account and she would have a decent chance of getting a tourist visa.


And after she gets the visa or not....she can give you the money back.

Good point.not to.mention foreign student tuitions are astronomical and she wont be paying for it I can guarantee.

I have gotten Colombian and Peruvian women into Canadá on a tourist visa, bit in Colombianas case  we were married .

Problem is tourist visas are shorter term, but less costly, bureacratic , messy and risky than student or marriage Type visas.


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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2018, 09:52:32 AM »
Canadian women seem to frequently date down as well. Plenty of times I've been on a Canadian beach and I see a chick who looks good in her bikini with some schlub. The guy will have a beer belly and half bald and I think, what is she doing with him? Of course he could be a great guy with a good job and plenty of money so who knows?

When were you.last on a beach in Canadá?.The 1970s?


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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2018, 06:46:19 PM »
When were you.last on a beach in Canadá?.The 1970s?


You may not but I go back to Canada almost every year. It just keeps getting better and better, too.

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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2018, 08:29:49 AM »

You may not but I go back to Canada almost every year. It just keeps getting better and better, too.

I go back 2 months  a year.

Its like Disney World. Going there on vacactión is one thing, but living there and paying taxes and trying to get a job in your professión  is another.

If you go there to the beach I imagine you are going to the quaint Maritimes.

Did you know they are being subsidized to the tune of billions of dollars a year by Alberta?

Imagine how that gonna fly when Alberta and Saskatchewan get so pi$$ed off they leave the country?

(Not that I think that will ever happen..but it sure would be the smart thing to do).

Getting better and better? Putting Up illegal border hoppers and their families in $100  a Night hotels for months on end and sending their kids to overcrowded school, letting them.use the overstrained healthcare system while they wait years to see how their cases go is getting better?
Meanwhile, cutting off healthcare benefits for someone who was born and raised in the country and paid over a million in taxes to the place and is continueing to do so? Thats getting better? Driving away all foreign andi internal business investments because any especial.interest group funded by foreign organization can challenge any industrial development in court Infinite number of times until some "progressive" judge agrees with them and puts a kaybosh on the whole thing?

That "getting better"
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2018, 09:48:28 AM »
For some folks, you could ask them to describe what they'd like heaven on earth to be, what their idea of utopia if you will, would be like.

Then, if you created it exactly like that and put them right in the center of it, they'd still find things to piss and moan about.

It's kinda like my ex, my first wife. If she wasn't miserable, she'd be miserable. Misery to her, to some people, is like a vital food for survival, an inexplicable source of negative energy that somehow sustains them.

Without feeling that so many things, that so many people are below their standards and expectations, they'd be even more screwed up at the thought of lowering themselves, to have a go at accentuating the positives, ignoring the negatives as much as possible and just getting along with life.Malcontents.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2018, 10:56:31 AM »
While there's certainly truth that socialist states with porous borders allowing in immigrants who dont work and contribute to the economic base are not sustainable, there's clearly two sides to that coin.

In most of these nations, the birth rate amongst those who have ancestry from there is about zero.

There simply aren't enough young people to fill the job openings, especially in the service and construction sectors.

And among the youth from there, a lot aren't too enthusiastic about taking what jobs that are available.

Some might say that it's a moot, a 'non point', because the reality is that most 'first world nations' don't make, more precisely don't manufacture things to the extent that they once did. That economic sector has decreased and 'intellectual property' - - banks, insurance companies, engineeers designing things to be made cheaply OVERSEAS, that's what sustains first world nations.

Meanwhile, we need to bring people in to work in the last remaining factories, the service sector--hotels, restaurants, agriculture etc.


Sure there are a lot of free loaders and for a long time, even Canada was bringing in immigrants, refugees with little to no marketable work skills, many not even able to speak English or French. They've wised up a big on that case.

But still, that's just buying time, putting off the collapse of socialist states for a generation or two, at best.

Meanwhile, those who consider themselves 'natives' will increasingly complain, even rioting, all the while themselves wanting more and more for nothing, greedily ever thirstier for more milk from the socialist teat.

Perhaps the worst thing about socialism is that it's addictive and encourages laziness. And there will never be enough gratis for people like that, almost certainly leading up to the eventual rioting and bloodletting amongst those "bread and circus" accustomed people, in the streets. Natives and immigrants alike, at each other's throats and all at the govt's as well.

There's a slim chance that if they can dial back the unsustainable 'free for all everything' mindset, that this can be avoided or put off longer, but an awful lot if people are already too used to a free ride.

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Re: Student Visas
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2018, 11:03:00 AM »
I go back 2 months  a year.

Its like Disney World. Going there on vacactión is one thing, but living there and paying taxes and trying to get a job in your professión  is another.

If you go there to the beach I imagine you are going to the quaint Maritimes.

Did you know they are being subsidized to the tune of billions of dollars a year by Alberta?

Imagine how that gonna fly when Alberta and Saskatchewan get so pi$$ed off they leave the country?

(Not that I think that will ever happen..but it sure would be the smart thing to do).

Getting better and better? Putting Up illegal border hoppers and their families in $100  a Night hotels for months on end and sending their kids to overcrowded school, letting them.use the overstrained healthcare system while they wait years to see how their cases go is getting better?
Meanwhile, cutting off healthcare benefits for someone who was born and raised in the country and paid over a million in taxes to the place and is continueing to do so? Thats getting better? Driving away all foreign andi internal business investments because any especial.interest group funded by foreign organization can challenge any industrial development in court Infinite number of times until some "progressive" judge agrees with them and puts a kaybosh on the whole thing?

That "getting better"
Excuse me while I puke.


My four siblings all still live there and they would not trade Canada for anything. At one time some of them would have gone to the US but not any more.


I looked into the health care benefits and the different provinces have different rules. Some of them require longer or shorter times to be a resident in the province in order not to lose coverage. That's why I am considering buying a house in rural Nova Scotia where you only have to live five months a year in order to be covered all year.

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Re: Student Visas
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2018, 12:26:58 PM »
Robert angel said:I remember hearing horror stories from 'shipmates' when I was in the Navy about their girlfriends in the PI. They were loving, good cooks, frugal. But God help you if she learned you were 'playing in a different ball field'. I guess the best term to sum it is you would be 'Bobitt-ized!'

We have a 'real deal' Filipino Bolo knife somewhere in the house. I think as has been the fashion there for the last hundred years or so, it was fashioned out of a piece of high carbon steel--- likely from an old jeepney leaf spring. Sits in the traditional wooden scabbard. Just as well, I don't, maybe better said that better SHE doesn't know quite where it is, LOL--- it could castrate an elephant...

I have thousands of dollars in knives. Mostly Seki City Japan and Solingen, Germany sourced, as well as USA made. Fallkniven out of Sweden, makes a great knife, but typically using Seki City, Japanese steel. Take my Fallknivens anywhere. Along with the USA made Gerber LMF knife and kit, they're top notch 'bug out bag' knives.

If you guys want one "after all hell breaks loose" knife that won't cost as much as car payment and has an effective sharpener built into the sheath, the Gerber LMF is hard to beat. If a tad short, still a dandy camp knife too. Keep mine, along with a three D battery Maglite/ billyclub, under the seat of our vehicles, next to my laminated FEMA certifications, the FEMA certs (by all means, take the easy, free courses online)  in case some cop asks me: "Whadya need THAT for? " Any cop would already know what the inexpensive, but incredibly reliable Glock 17 alongside them (and permitted for C/C) is for.

https://www.amazon.com/Gerber-Infantry-Knife-Coyote-22-01463/dp/B0009JVOCA?ref=silk_at_search

https://www.fema.gov/training

Saw a great knife, from before SOG ( and Cold Steel, etc) went to cheap, really crappy Chinese manufacturing--  the SOG real Seki City made "Pentagon" model dagger in the latest Mission Impossible flick-- "Fall Out". Looked it up and they're selling for about ten times what I paid for mine. I have the long and short version.

If only I'd never sharpened my rare Emerson - Benchmade collaboration automatic tanto-- I could practically name my price for that one. Had it sharpened once and recall the old cuss who did it took about 45 minutes on it, then saying "You know--- this knife is only good for ONE thing-- killing... ".

Even some of my old, discontinued Spyderco EDC pocket knives have appreciated multiple times over. I lost one I fancied that had the blade 'skelatized' cut out. Little knife cost me about $45 originally. Missing it, went online and no longer being made, the only ones for sale were $400. Later on, found it deep in the sofa cushions. I wasn't gonna pay a stupid price. Prices can be crazy IF you can get someone to pay those silly prices they're asking on Flea-- errr-- on " E bay"

But be it guns or knives, no 'safe queens' in our house!
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2018, 05:44:44 PM »

My four siblings all still live there and they would not trade Canada for anything. At one time some of them would have gone to the US but not any more.


I looked into the health care benefits and the different provinces have different rules. Some of them require longer or shorter times to be a resident in the province in order not to lose coverage. That's why I am considering buying a house in rural Nova Scotia where you only have to live five months a year in order to be covered all year.

Yeah ..Nova Scotia..good choice for now.Not overrun by inmigrants and illegals leading to long waits for apointments  like in the 5 or 6 major metropolises, lower cost of houses and cost of living, friendly people and highly subsidized by transfer payment from taxpayers in the wealthier  Prairie Provinces.

For now.Lets see how that goes in the future. Trudeau is doing  his best to screw everything Up.
Soon enough they will run out of "other people money.
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2018, 10:22:07 PM »

My four siblings all still live there and they would not trade Canada for anything. At one time some of them would have gone to the US but not any more.


I looked into the health care benefits and the different provinces have different rules. Some of them require longer or shorter times to be a resident in the province in order not to lose coverage. That's why I am considering buying a house in rural Nova Scotia where you only have to live five months a year in order to be covered all year.


What do your siblings think about the law C 16 and the forced speech movement in Canada?


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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2018, 05:30:13 PM »

What do your siblings think about the law C 16 and the forced speech movement in Canada?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04wyGK6k6HE&t=2111s

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You can bet they will never use the law in the case of discrimination against white heterosexual  males.

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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2018, 10:26:28 PM »

My four siblings all still live there and they would not trade Canada for anything. At one time some of them would have gone to the US but not any more.


I looked into the health care benefits and the different provinces have different rules. Some of them require longer or shorter times to be a resident in the province in order not to lose coverage. That's why I am considering buying a house in rural Nova Scotia where you only have to live five months a year in order to be covered all year.

Isn't rural Nova Scotia a lot different than San Antonio, Texas? How do you think your wife  would adjust? I'd think between the weather and less Hispanic language, activities, shopping etc, that it'd be tough on her and that if she wanted to keep working, that'd be different too.

I may be inheriting a penthouse apartment in a lovely, very 'happening' part of Michigan. It'd be LOT different than Georgia! The Detroit Lions Quarterback lives there, as well as star Red Wing Hockey players and Detroit Tiger baseball players.

The taxes alone cost more than our present home's mortage payments.

It'd be luxurious, with boutiques, yoga studios, restaurants galore down below and from it's 16 stories up, we could see well into Canada and take trips to Windsor, Toronto, Banff, Quebec, Montreal, but aside from 5 months of hard winter weather, the winter driving challenges, the few Filipinos and lack of her favorite foods, I can't see it really making sense.

We like the people, the lesser amount of racism and the beauty of the great lakes, but especially because of the weather, I don't think it would be right for us. My wife loves it up there early and mid summer, as well as the beauty of the first snowfall, (until it turns into gray slush) but for about 5 months, with the short days and freezing temperatures, I think it'd get old fast.

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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2018, 11:50:27 AM »
Isn't rural Nova Scotia a lot different than San Antonio, Texas? How do you think your wife  would adjust? I'd think between the weather and less Hispanic language, activities, shopping etc, that it'd be tough on her and that if she wanted to keep working, that'd be different too.

I may be inheriting a penthouse apartment in a lovely, very 'happening' part of Michigan. It'd be LOT different than Georgia! The Detroit Lions Quarterback lives there, as well as star Red Wing Hockey players and Detroit Tiger baseball players.

The taxes alone cost more than our present home's mortage payments.

It'd be luxurious, with boutiques, yoga studios, restaurants galore down below and from it's 16 stories up, we could see well into Canada and take trips to Windsor, Toronto, Banff, Quebec, Montreal, but aside from 5 months of hard winter weather, the winter driving challenges, the few Filipinos and lack of her favorite foods, I can't see it really making sense.

We like the people, the lesser amount of racism and the beauty of the great lakes, but especially because of the weather, I don't think it would be right for us. My wife loves it up there early and mid summer, as well as the beauty of the first snowfall, (until it turns into gray slush) but for about 5 months, with the short days and freezing temperatures, I think it'd get old fast.

Life's just too short to freeze your ass off!


I agree. That's why I would only live there from May to September. Nova Scotia only requires that you spend five months a year there in order to receive benefits year round.

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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2018, 03:00:14 PM »

I agree. That's why I would only live there from May to September. Nova Scotia only requires that you spend five months a year there in order to receive benefits year round.


I have news for you
Nova Scotia Provincial Health Care wont cover your bedsheets, should you get hospitalized in Texas. I think they reimburse you about $100 Canada per day.
And just try collecting.And why should they pay any more? Same applies to "Snow Birds". If you live out of the country, you should pay for your own healthcare when you are living there.

God forbid if you have major Surgery. My sister in-laws mom had an aneurism.in California
And they were stuck with an $800,000 Bill.They had trouble with the private travel insurance Company paying Up. Finally the insurance Company agreed to.pay the hospital $400K.
The Provincial health system paid squat.


 
I have no idea what other "Benifits" you refer to.

You sure dont get CPP if you havent paid into it, and OAS  (which is peanuts)requires that you have had some residency in Canada over the years. And why would they do otherwise?

Both are federal, not Provincial.programs.

Here are the rules for OAS from.the Government of Canadá website:

If you are living outside Canada, you must:

be 65 years old or older;
have been a Canadian citizen or a legal resident of Canada on the day before you left Canada; and
have resided in Canada for at least 20 years since the age of 18.

Also, if you have other significant retirement income your OAS, which is about $400 US a month, maximum) will.be reduced significantly.



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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2018, 08:04:02 AM »

I have news for you
Nova Scotia Provincial Health Care wont cover your bedsheets, should you get hospitalized in Texas. I think they reimburse you about $100 Canada per day.
And just try collecting.And why should they pay any more? Same applies to "Snow Birds". If you live out of the country, you should pay for your own healthcare when you are living there.

God forbid if you have major Surgery. My sister in-laws mom had an aneurism.in California
And they were stuck with an $800,000 Bill.They had trouble with the private travel insurance Company paying Up. Finally the insurance Company agreed to.pay the hospital $400K.
The Provincial health system paid squat.


 
I have no idea what other "Benifits" you refer to.

You sure dont get CPP if you havent paid into it, and OAS  (which is peanuts)requires that you have had some residency in Canada over the years. And why would they do otherwise?

Both are federal, not Provincial.programs.

Here are the rules for OAS from.the Government of Canadá website:

If you are living outside Canada, you must:

be 65 years old or older;
have been a Canadian citizen or a legal resident of Canada on the day before you left Canada; and
have resided in Canada for at least 20 years since the age of 18.

Also, if you have other significant retirement income your OAS, which is about $400 US a month, maximum) will.be reduced significantly.


I have no interest in OAS or CPP. I would not expect to be covered for medical expenses in Texas under the Nova Scotia system - only while I was actually in Canada.

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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2018, 12:38:38 PM »

I have news for you
Nova Scotia Provincial Health Care wont cover your bedsheets, should you get hospitalized in Texas. I think they reimburse you about $100 Canada per day.
And just try collecting.And why should they pay any more? Same applies to "Snow Birds". If you live out of the country, you should pay for your own healthcare when you are living there.

God forbid if you have major Surgery. My sister in-laws mom had an aneurism.in California
And they were stuck with an $800,000 Bill.They had trouble with the private travel insurance Company paying Up. Finally the insurance Company agreed to.pay the hospital $400K.
The Provincial health system paid squat.


 
I have no idea what other "Benifits" you refer to.

You sure dont get CPP if you havent paid into it, and OAS  (which is peanuts)requires that you have had some residency in Canada over the years. And why would they do otherwise?

Both are federal, not Provincial.programs.

Here are the rules for OAS from.the Government of Canadá website:

If you are living outside Canada, you must:

be 65 years old or older;
have been a Canadian citizen or a legal resident of Canada on the day before you left Canada; and
have resided in Canada for at least 20 years since the age of 18.

Also, if you have other significant retirement income your OAS, which is about $400 US a month, maximum) will.be reduced significantly.

While I think reasonably priced (not saying 'free' health care anymore than free tires, food, etc) health care in wealthy countries should be a given,  it cracked me up when on a wrist watch forum where I was messaging a Swedish woman about a nice mechanical watch, she was moaning and groaning that while all her health care was excellent and free, that having a tooth pulled cost her.

Like with any work--service, pay-- 'compensation'  should be expected to be paid by the recipient of such, to the person proferring the work. But not at the highway robbery prices we see in the USA.

In the USA, we're grossly overpaying for medical services The drug companies have the largest amount of lobbyists in DC and in state capitals. The American Medical Association holds an awful lot of sway too. They kill a lot of 'reform' bills before they even approach the vote stage.

On pretty much every level, from drugs, to parts for basic surgeries, to hearts and all things replacable, (hips, knees, etc) we're paying for the research for the rest of the world and then to add insult to injury, paying a lot more when we need them in the USA.

The same high tech hip and knee replacement parts, which all come from the same area of the USA's midwest, cost a lot less overseas, JUST for the parts, than what the hospitals here charge us here.

If I need an MRI or CAT scan, my 'in network insured hospital' might charge $3000, then settle with my Blue Cross policy for half that amount. I pay a fraction of that, thankfully.

But for someone withOUT insurance, who doesn't know they can go to a non directly hospital affiliated office and get the same MRI, CATscan done and read by a radiologist for about $700,  my hospital,will simply do it for them and send them the whole $3000 bill, with NO adjustment.

Biggest beef I hear from my Canadian friends is that unless it's life threatening,  it takes forever to get an examination or have a procedure,  minor surgery done. But it's a whole lot cheaper.

"Affordable Healthcare" and 'act' has become a fire rod touch phrase. But I think we should reel in healthcare, including hospital, medical office care and  drug costs. I think that indigent health care costs force the hospitals to inflate the bills to cover for the poor who can't or won't pay.

Maybe focus on the indigent healthcare costs being paid by the Govt rather than indirectly by those who do pay regularly.  And get drug and procedure costs re examined for a 'reality check'.

Ban medicines from being advertised (along with lawyer's). Next time you watch the national news, count how many 30-60 second commercials are for drugs and for health problems you might have never even heard of. My wife saw them and initially thought we must be the sickest people on earth.

 "Side effects and complications may include death"

That and all the dog product, services comercials. She thought dogs must be a worshipped diety amongst a lot of people here.

I remember last time I was in the hospital, in a room on the cusp of midnight, at the point where I'd be charged for one OR two days. When they saw my healthcare card, I had seen their smiles, them knowing I--actually my insurance, was 'good for the money'.

I wanted out b4 midnight. When the hot looking nurse asked me around 11PM : " Mr. A, is there anything else I can do for you before I leave?"--I replied:

"Yes, please--'How about a lap dance?'"

They had my discharge papers complete less than an hour later!!!
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2018, 01:50:40 PM »
In the USA form of Democracy, it's awfully easy to forget that before an already compromised Congress and/or Senate gets to see, never mind vote on anything, it has to be reviewed and approved  or disapproved by a person or by a small 'committee' before it's even put up for, or more often NOT put up for, a so called 'popular' vote.

And the lobbyists, the people who pay them and donate Billions of dollars to these 'key to the gate' politicians, know exactly who holds the keys to the cages of the Congress and Senate and to their food--errr 'monetary' troughs that control massive amounts of money that may or may not go a politician's district back home.

No wonder there's a long ladder of ass kissing up the political line and US currency is their favorite toilet paper.
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2018, 05:12:25 PM »
Hijacked thread but I'm going to respond anyway. I would like to know who and how the HMO Act of 1975 become history quietly?  That was the law that said an employer MUST offer an HMO if it was available in the area. It had to be rescinded in order to get Obama Care shoved down our throats!

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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2018, 08:34:42 PM »
Hijacked thread but I'm going to respond anyway. I would like to know who and how the HMO Act of 1975 become history quietly?  That was the law that said an employer MUST offer an HMO if it was available in the area. It had to be rescinded in order to get Obama Care shoved down our throats!

Off thread? Here, OMG---never! This relates to 'students'!

The Senate committee with by VP Mike Pence's vote was able to tiebreak a 50-50 vote confirming Betsy DeVos as head of education. (Rev. Jerry Falwell supposedly turned the position down)  No one in her family has ever attended a public school or had a student loan.

Senator Sanders: “Mrs. DeVos, there is a growing fear, I think, in this country that we are moving toward what some would call an oligarchic form of society, where a small number of very, very wealthy billionaires control, to a significant degree, our economic and political life. Would you be so kind as to tell us how much your family has contributed to the Republican Party over the years?”

DeVos: “Senator, first of all thank you for that question. I again was pleased to meet you in your office last week. I wish I could give you that number. I don’t know.”

'Sanders: “I have heard the number was $200 million. Does that sound in the ballpark?”

DeVos: “Collectively? Between my entire family?”

Sanders: “Yeah, over the years.”

DeVos: “That’s possible”

At least she can tell the truth when she knows, when she wants to:

 "My family is the largest single contributor of soft money to the national Republican Party. I have decided to stop taking offense at the suggestion that we are buying influence," she wrote. "Now I simply concede the point. They are right."

I guess the price of getting to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom at the White House has gone up a bit....
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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2018, 08:52:55 PM »
Hijacked thread but I'm going to respond anyway. I would like to know who and how the HMO Act of 1975 become history quietly?  That was the law that said an employer MUST offer2 an HMO if it was available in the area. It had to be rescinded in order to get Obama Care shoved down our throats!

Actually, it was 1973, Nixon era.

"""What was the purpose of the HMO Act of 1973?
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The Health Maintenance Organization Act, informally known as the federal HMO Act, is a federal law that provides for a trial federal program to promote and encourage the development of health maintenance organizations (HMOs). The federal HMO Act amended the Public Health Service Act, which Congress passed in 1944.""""

Maybe they thought it pertained to 'homos' and the general populace wasn't ready to accept it...
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« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2018, 04:40:11 PM »
I knew Nixon signed it into law. I was just wrong with the dates. But in order to have an incentive for 'Obama Gold Plan', they had to negate anything that would compete with it such as an HMO. Now everything is based on Obamacare. My (bluechip) company went from offering an HMO with minimum out of pocket requirements to an 'Obamacare Clone' with excessive out of pocket before the 80% kicks in with a high max. out of pocket! And forget about 'Out of Network'!!!!! It just sux what they did and made healthcare more unaffordable for the working class just so the 'non-working class', (welfare recipients) got more and better coverage than Medicaid.

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« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2018, 07:12:59 PM »
I knew Nixon signed it into law. I was just wrong with the dates. But in order to have an incentive for 'Obama Gold Plan', they had to negate anything that would compete with it such as an HMO. Now everything is based on Obamacare. My (bluechip) company went from offering an HMO with minimum out of pocket requirements to an 'Obamacare Clone' with excessive out of pocket before the 80% kicks in with a high max. out of pocket! And forget about 'Out of Network'!!!!! It just sux what they did and made healthcare more unaffordable for the working class just so the 'non-working class', (welfare recipients) got more and better coverage than Medicaid.

Dunno all the particulars, but last time I spoke with my 27 y/o son about what was then the mandatory govt health care he had to sign up for, his premiums were high and he had to pay thousands of dollars out of pocket before any coverage (could have been) applied.

I don't think he's ever gotten anything back on anything, that it'd have to be a catastrophic illness or injury costing a ton of money before it began to pay out.

I know his wisdom teeth situation was about as complex and involved as it gets and I ended up dishing out thousands of dollars there to keep him from going broke--no help from uncle sam there.

And I was ready with my Vise Grip pliars. (not)

Health, life and financial insurance is so freaking complicated. I was looking at Fixed Index Annuities, a financial vehicle sold by insurance companies. I wanted to invest a sizable chunk of money so that it would generate a 'guaranteed' stream of income, not just for the rest of my life, but also for my much younger wife's life time. Invest, not touch for 4 or 5 years, then draw, with minimal risk to principal. Or so they said anyway...

By the time we were able to unscramble their supposed 6.5% annual interest, (supposedly compounded!) from all the minutia, the 'riders' fees and stipulations, I had to agree that they are, as one Forbes magazine article called these FIA's---"Ponzi Schemes". Yes, you'll get some money back regardless of economic markets performance, but only because these non FDIC insured annuities are attracting billions of dollars in new investors to pay at least some % to the earlier investors.

Like Momma said, "If it sounds to be true, it probably is" 

But they'd sure love to talk it up for hours, over days and weeks, get you to agree, then have you come in later and sign off on a 'plan' that's a couple hundred pages of gobbly gook that you're given as you sign. Hogwash.
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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2018, 09:27:31 AM »

I have no interest in OAS or CPP. I would not expect to be covered for medical expenses in Texas under the Nova Scotia system - only while I was actually in Canada.

I misinterpreted your post.I though you expected benifits the whole year found whole living in NS 5 months.

 

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