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Title: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: anm8tr on May 22, 2010, 01:20:16 PM
Hola, I don't want to get in a heated discussion here regarding Colombian women, but just wanted to give some feedback I have experienced lately. I have been corresponding to several Colombian women and also a few Brazilians and I have to mention what a difference there is in communication between the two. I am finding that the Brazilians are much more attentive to my questions and what I would call proper communication between two adults, humans etc. vs the Colombians. The letters from the Brazilians are much warmer and to the point.
It's a completely different mindset between the two.

I am not keen on having to learn Portuguese after all the time I have spent on Spanish, luckily the Brazilian girls speak Spanish. It's like two worlds apart between the women though.

Also, I am not sure how I can convince a woman who is used to spending time on the beach everyday, to trade that for Cactus, Mountains and Snow. LOL!

Just curious, does anyone else have any similar experiences here?
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Woody on May 22, 2010, 01:36:26 PM
Interesting subject. I wonder though, what cities did you target? I know this will play a role in Colombia, probably in Brazil as well.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: anm8tr on May 22, 2010, 02:32:50 PM
Interesting subject. I wonder though, what cities did you target? I know this will play a role in Colombia, probably in Brazil as well.

I have two Colombians in Medellin and two Brazilians in Belo Horizonte. The difference in communication is like night and day. the Brazilians seem so much more alive, at least in correspondence. I know statistically speaking this is a small sample, but the difference for me was so striking that I had to mention it. I have also spoken to many many Colombians in the past, before I married one over 10 years ago, so i have a little experience there, but I have never been to Brazil.

Has anyone noticed most of the Colombian woman profiles;

Likes: Music, Dancing, Shopping, Going to the gym.  A few mention sports.

I know to each his own, it's just my recent observation.

I also got rejected by 1 girl in Cali and 1 recently in Medellin, I believe because of all the sports I listed. They wrote me back and stated that they didn't think we really had much in common after reading my reply letter. So I started toning my letters down and got more responses, but then I thought to myself, why should I sacrifice what I like to do just for the sake of pleasing someone else. I am a very flexible person, I have no problems going shopping with women, I like nice clothes too! I like buying new gadgets for the kitchen and house, I love to cook! I also learned Salsa, Merengue and Bachata, so I could hit the dance floor at any given moment. I do know what women like and I have accepted those roles and I know it makes them very happy.

It might take me longer to find what I want, but damned if I will accept second best.

I guess if a woman enjoys the outdoors, you could train her to at least try skiing. I used to love skiing until I tried snow boarding. But I am just as comfortable at the beach. I learned to surf in Hawaii. :)
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: bcc_1_2 on May 22, 2010, 04:15:00 PM

I guess if a woman enjoys the outdoors, you could train her to at least try skiing. I used to love skiing until I tried snow boarding. But I am just as comfortable at the beach. I learned to surf in Hawaii. :)

I'd give up on the internet and go comb the beaches and find a surfer chick who will be up for the adventures you are into.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: utopiacowboy on May 22, 2010, 04:26:32 PM
My wife was a member of an outdoors club in Medellin. They used to do various outdoor activities on the weekends like hiking, bicycling etc. The traditional Colombian culture did not encourage strenuous physical exercise for women. In fact my mother-in-law still disapproves of my stepdaughter's many sports activities.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: anm8tr on May 22, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
My wife was a member of an outdoors club in Medellin. They used to do various outdoor activities on the weekends like hiking, bicycling etc. The traditional Colombian culture did not encourage strenuous physical exercise for women. In fact my mother-in-law still disapproves of my stepdaughter's many sports activities.

Very interesting, My ex Colombian wife wouldn't be caught dead doing any strenuous exercise outdoors. In fact the only thing outdoor activity we ever did was to join a 4 wheeler group in AZ after I bought a Jeep, and then I let her drive.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: anm8tr on May 22, 2010, 05:23:27 PM
I'd give up on the internet and go comb the beaches and find a surfer chick who will be up for the adventures you are into.

But I am not a beach bum either, my point was that I am very flexible, I can and like to do many things, whether I am next to a beach, or having dinner in a restaurant playing Salsa music.  My point is that I prefer a woman who is flexible also. Someone who isn't afraid to try a few new things. The Brazilian women seem a little more responsive in that respect, or I just got lucky.

I am a little hesitant pursuing the Brazilian route though.  I had correspondence with one girl a few years back and I had contacted a local translator to help me communicate with her and the lady told me that she had also been hired by the Police to help communicate with all the Brazilian women in AZ who had married, divorced and were stuck in AZ. So it was kind of an outreach program for foreign ex wifes. So I got a little shell shocked by that. It's just that I had received a few letters recently and then replied back to these girls; they seem very cool so far. Very alive!

I was hoping someone else here had some experience with Brazil, that was all. :)
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Bob_S on May 23, 2010, 12:34:44 AM
you could train her to at least try skiing.
Train her?  Are you marrying a woman or adopting a dog?  Are you going to hit her on the nose with a rolled up newspaper if she doesn't want to even go near the bunny slopes?   ??? :P
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: anm8tr on May 23, 2010, 12:55:31 AM
Train her?  Are you marrying a woman or adopting a dog?  Are you going to hit her on the nose with a rolled up newspaper if she doesn't want to even go near the bunny slopes?   ??? :P

Hmm, not sure how you equate the word train with a dog. Surely, you do not compare women with dogs. We know where your mind is, don't we? Shame on you! Better that you smack yourself for being bad! Bad dog!

Here is the definition of train;

v. tr.
To coach in or accustom to a mode of behavior or performance.

To make proficient with specialized instruction and practice. See Synonyms at teach.

To prepare physically, as with a regimen: train athletes for track-and-field competition.

Here is the definition of teach:

–verb (used without object)
3.
to impart knowledge or skill; give instruction.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: kojak on May 23, 2010, 05:34:47 AM
Brazil is such a large country compared to Colombia, women wise Brazil runs the gamut so many different types.  I wouldn't even know where to begin, one thing I do know is that when it come to sex its a very liberal society even if they are the largest Catholic nation. A lot of things that are frown upon here in the states are very common in brazil, its hard to understand unless you've been there.

That's something that u are going to have to take into account, especially in a long distance relationship....I've been to rio and sao paulo several times and I've seen it with my own eyes, [a garota all over her gringo, inseparable like as if her long lost love just came into town but as soon as he leave no later than the next day loving the next guy like if he was the only man in the world for her] very common especially in rio, People would always tell me its the brazilian way or at least carioca way.

My advise to U is if you have the resources and time travel go experience it yourself, go to belo, rio, sao paulo many other cities you'll comeback with a different outlook, beautiful women of every shape, size, ethnicity and religion u name it.
Problem that I've always had with garotas is that I just don't see them been happy here in the states on less u live in south Florida or LA maybe NYC, even then its a stretch. U never know though U might be lucky, find U one that would be happy in the U.S. by your side, hell probably even follow U to Antarctica if U ask her. ;D  females U can't never tell.  Good luck with UR journey, hope U find that special one whether she's Colombian or Brazilian!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Kiltboy1 on May 23, 2010, 07:44:34 AM
I have never dated a Brazilian woman, but culturally they are supposed to be much more promiscuous then Colombianas,but then again, it never took me more the a dinner and lunch the next day to hit the sheets with every Colombiana I ever knew, so I guess that blows that stereotype out the water. There was a guy who used to post on here about a year ago that married a woman from Brazil and then she backed out on him, changed completely about 2-3 months after the wedding. Have not heard from him in a while, so do not know what happend.The travel distance would be the big factor if I were still single . Good to get some feedback on this subject though.

KB
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Pivery on May 23, 2010, 09:46:57 AM
 Good luck with finding a woman who is into sports much Anm8tr...

They are out there, but very few and far between. I brought a skateboard, frisbee, tennis rackets/tennis balls, soccer ball, baseball bat and ball and I had to practically
explain to my fiancée what each one was for except the soccer ball. So although I wasn't looking for a woman who wanted to spend every waking moment outside with
me playing sports, it was something that I thought might interest her somewhat. Oh well, so much for that idea... ???

Sports for women is almost unheard of at least as far as my lady knew about. She was not taught nor encouraged to play any type of sports in school and so when I
asked her if she would like to at least put on some sneakers and go outside and at least kick a soccer ball together, I was given a look that I should be committed to a
nuthouse. She would rather take care of the house and leave the sports to the boys. Maybe the women are a bit more athletic on the Brazilian side, but as far as the
Colombian side of the map not so much.

As far as the beach is concerned, I grew up in Hawaii so I am used to being on the beach. But my fiancée is from Barranquilla and had never even touched the water.
That really had me scratching my head but again if it isn't something that you are used to doing, by the time you reach adulthood it really sounds like something bizarre to do.

Pivery
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: anm8tr on May 23, 2010, 03:46:19 PM
Good luck with finding a woman who is into sports much Anm8tr...

They are out there, but very few and far between. I brought a skateboard, frisbee, tennis rackets/tennis balls, soccer ball, baseball bat and ball and I had to practically
explain to my fiancée what each one was for except the soccer ball. So although I wasn't looking for a woman who wanted to spend every waking moment outside with
me playing sports, it was something that I thought might interest her somewhat. Oh well, so much for that idea... ???

Sports for women is almost unheard of at least as far as my lady knew about. She was not taught nor encouraged to play any type of sports in school


Wow, thanks for the info. Probably explains why I am getting more hits from the Brazilian side, although I did just get a letter today from a 34 yr old in Medellin who told me some of her likes; "I love to go to the movies, and go out for a dinner, I love sports, camping, music, dacing.. I enjoy all things in life!"   This is a good start. She is very attractive in her photos, although she told me she was doing some modeling and I was trying to steer clear of those types. But this girl seems to be on the ball, maybe not the basketball, but on the right track, well maybe not the running track, but looks like a good start! That's better!

Yes, my ex would not be caught dead anywhere without her extremely short skirts and high heels, etc., etc. Little did I realize the dragon that lurked beneath. Ouch!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Pivery on May 23, 2010, 08:32:24 PM

 
 Anm8tr,

I think you will ultimately find the ideal type of woman you are looking for. Sort of a hybrid inside/outside type woman. As I said before, women who want
to spend quality time outside at the beach, a picnic, softball, bicycling, etc. are out there they just need to be encouraged a bit. Every man has an idea of
what type of woman will fit his likes and dislikes. The short skirt/high heel types of ladies weren't my first choice, but they definitely are great to look at.
I was more into a woman who looked super-duper in a dress, but didn't spend 23 hours per day staring at herself in the mirror packing on makeup and doing her hair.
I'm pretty sure that I spend more time in the bathroom then my lady does. The short skirters just receive too much unwanted attention for my taste...

I think that in general (I have no concrete knowledge) the Brazilian women are more accustomed to being outside of the home than say the Colombians.
I was bummed at first that she didn't take an immediate liking to spending more time outside, but the house is kept spotless and breakfast, lunch and dinner
made from scratch every day isn't the worst trade off. I wasn't looking for a training partner, but neither was I interested in a Colombian vampire afraid to step
outside during the daytime.

I think with time, most women (that are seriously into you) will want to be into the things that interest you and will ultimately give them a try.
When I first met my fiancée, she would not even so much as leave the house unless there was an earthquake happening. But now we take walks, have the occasional picnic
and have gotten her to at least watch me play a little soccer with her nephew when we go and visit her sister.

I can't picture a Brazilian out in AZ, but that's not etched in stone. I don't think there were too many guys here considering the Brazilian way and actuallly succeeded, but I
could be wrong. You may be one of the few that make out if you go that route. Also don't cross off the other countries in S. America & Central America. You may have better luck
there... 8)

Pivery
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Bob_S on May 24, 2010, 06:30:46 PM
v. tr.
To coach in or accustom to a mode of behavior or performance.

To make proficient with specialized instruction and practice. See Synonyms at teach.

To prepare physically, as with a regimen: train athletes for track-and-field competition.

Here is the definition of teach:

–verb (used without object)
3.
to impart knowledge or skill; give instruction.
So, do you plan to be her coach and teacher? Or do you plan to be a husband?
Look at the long term relationships around here.  Most you will find are marriages of equals.  The men found their counterpart in another country in terms of social, mental, educational, or maturity levels (and in some cases, it was the guy who married up!).  When you go in to find someone who you will have to instruct or train, you set up an imbalance in the relationship that will ultimately destroy it.  These women are not sponges ready to absorb all your hopes and wishes, interests and tastes.  That dynamic may work in the movies (My Fair Lady, Pretty Woman), but in real life it's a recipe for disaster.  It's treating them like a child, and children ultimately rebel against and leave their parents.

Right now, I think Pivery is giving you some of the best advice.  I hope you take it seriously.  You will definitely need to cast a wider net to find a good match who is into some of your interests.  Find your equal, the woman you'd look at and think, if I were born a woman in her country, I'd be her.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: anm8tr on May 24, 2010, 10:32:25 PM
So, do you plan to be her coach and teacher? Or do you plan to be a husband?
Look at the long term relationships around here.  Most you will find are marriages of equals.  The men found their counterpart in another country in terms of social, mental, educational, or maturity levels (and in some cases, it was the guy who married up!).  When you go in to find someone who you will have to instruct or train, you set up an imbalance in the relationship that will ultimately destroy it.  These women are not sponges ready to absorb all your hopes and wishes, interests and tastes.  That dynamic may work in the movies (My Fair Lady, Pretty Woman), but in real life it's a recipe for disaster.  It's treating them like a child, and children ultimately rebel against and leave their parents.

Right now, I think Pivery is giving you some of the best advice.  I hope you take it seriously.  You will definitely need to cast a wider net to find a good match who is into some of your interests.  Find your equal, the woman you'd look at and think, if I were born a woman in her country, I'd be her.

Hi, thanks for all the feedback, sorry I had too much Tequila that night and was trying to have fun, but seriously, I am not a home body type, but I am not a sports nut, I don't even like sitting inside on Sunday watching football, it's just not my thing. I do watch an occasional game of football or basketball, but that is about it. I have always been very athletic all my life, a long distance runner in school, and now I teach Martial Arts, I have a small school of students and I just enjoy exercising when able. But you guys also missed the fact that I learned Salsa dancing as well as just about every Latin dance the exists except for the Samba, which is not too difficult to do either. I am 50 yrs of age and look younger than 40 and have the energy of a 20 yr old. I am in the best shape I have ever been in my life, I eat good, I am educated and financially secure. So why shouldn't I expect the best I can. Trust me, I have already been through this once with an American girl and once with a Colombian, and I am telling you guys, do not sacrifice what you like in life just for the sake of being with someone. If you cannot share what you both like then it's not a good thing.  I made that mistake twice already. My point is I would like it better if my wife joined me skiing or at least tried, it's not a mandatory requirement to be with me, it's a point of sharing activities together and enjoying life and good health. Spontaneity is the key to a fun and long lasting life together, don't get stuck in the same old routine, or 10 years down the road you may be very bored of life together.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Bob_S on May 26, 2010, 03:10:32 PM
do not sacrifice what you like in life just for the sake of being with someone. If you cannot share what you both like then it's not a good thing.
You make a lot more sense when you're sober.  ;D
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Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Researcher on May 26, 2010, 05:53:19 PM


    anm8tr,
       If you want an athletic woman you just need to look for one.My wife is into exercise and likes to play sports like basketball and tennis she just never had the time when he was in Colombia.She always made time to exercise though.The first time we worked out together I thought I was going to have to take it easy so she could keep up but I had trouble keeping up with her!

    Researcher
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: anm8tr on May 30, 2010, 07:13:19 PM
You make a lot more sense when you're sober.  ;D
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I never said I was drunk, I just said I had some Tequila. LOL! But technically I was right. :)
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Zon on June 02, 2010, 06:46:11 AM
Brazil is back on my radar screen since I have spent the last two months in the DR and have ran into a couple of guys that are telling me that I am focusing on Medellin and the cafe triangle prematurely.  I am going back to Medellin for two months, but I am very interested in the comparison and this dialogue.

Besides all the turn-ons with Colombia and Colombianas - and there are many - there is no getting around the gringo target factor.  It takes time and cunning to earn and identify honesty.  A naive guy can be played like a fiddle.  Plus the place is not 3 star safe.  You have to watch you back all the time and avoid predictability.  That can get old. Then, there is the fact that if you take 100 girls who you are attracted to and then filter by:
- intelligence
- education
- good family
- sincerity
- special chemistry
That number gets down below 10 fast.   It is not easy and takes much time to find a keeper (if that is what your into).

How does Brazil, especially Southern Brazil compare?  A great question.  Particularly, what are the differences to Colombia in the following points
- Gringo stereotypes - positive and negative
- cost of living (in Colombia you can live for as little as 1100.  For 3000, you can live at a high level)
- women - especially for serious consideration - age gaps and league gaps almost do not apply in Colombia providing a man keeps in shape and is fashionable

Personally, I think finding a woman and doing a total transplant - marriage with US living only is unwise and most risky.  It does not matter if the woman originates from Colombia, or elsewhere.  So, where ever I find a special woman, I am also finding a second home.  That is an important consideration for me as well.  I could be happy living with Medellin - but there maybe some other options I have not fully explored.

Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Woody on June 03, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
Personally, I think finding a woman and doing a total transplant - marriage with US living only is unwise and most risky.  It does not matter if the woman originates from Colombia, or elsewhere.  So, where ever I find a special woman, I am also finding a second home.  That is an important consideration for me as well.  I could be happy living with Medellin - but there maybe some other options I have not fully explored.

Looks like we have similar opinions on this subject. I'm not ragging on the guys that transplant, I just choose not to take the risk of Americanizing her.

This is also why I would REALLY like to talk to some women in Honduras but wont. I can't see Honduras as a stable proposition for permanent residency. Costa Rica I can see, Brazil is a possibility (But the Cost of Living is significant), and a few others. Then again, this is why I plan on visiting all these countries so I can see what I would be getting into first hand.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: bcc_1_2 on June 03, 2010, 12:43:29 AM
I may have married a honduran... but I could end up owning property in Costa Rica instead depending on if Honduras keeps up the development of the coast and tourist areas.

In 20 or 30 years I'm not sure if I'll like Costa Rica or not anymore. It might just get too commercial. It almost already is in someways. The crap (food, crafts, gifts, etc) priced in dollars is just that... crap and a total rip off. The taxi tells you your hotel is closed... burned down... etc because he gets a commission to take you to a different hotel... you get the idea. Eventually if Costa Rica turns into one big gringo scam that would suck. But I do like Costa Rica currently. Just eat where the locals say is good... shop where they shop... party where they party (note stay out of really rough/ poor areas), etc.

I would not write off Honduras long term. The development of the coast, tourist police that speak english, etc has been underway and I approve of all that. We of course want to see incomes rise and the goverment become much more stable.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Alabamaboy! on June 03, 2010, 08:16:22 AM
"How does Brazil, especially Southern Brazil compare?"

I was really checking out Brazil a while back. Southern Brazil was said to have some unbelievable cities where there are pockets of population with almost fully German or Italian ancestry. They are known for having very pale skin, model type features.

I was more interested in morenas so the other areas were more interesting to me.

From all that I found through my research, there were very few sources that reported success with bringing a Brazilian girl to the States. Seems you need to stay on their home turf. I guess it is because it appears to be almost a modern day paradise there with a booming economy, incredible beaches, no real military enemies, great food, music, vibe, and of course the women. Almost all the pics I have seen all over the country show that for the most part the people there have a great sense of style and are usually in great physical condition.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: utopiacowboy on June 03, 2010, 09:29:08 PM
"How does Brazil, especially Southern Brazil compare?"

I was really checking out Brazil a while back. Southern Brazil was said to have some unbelievable cities where there are pockets of population with almost fully German or Italian ancestry. They are known for having very pale skin, model type features.

I was more interested in morenas so the other areas were more interesting to me.

From all that I found through my research, there were very few sources that reported success with bringing a Brazilian girl to the States. Seems you need to stay on their home turf. I guess it is because it appears to be almost a modern day paradise there with a booming economy, incredible beaches, no real military enemies, great food, music, vibe, and of course the women. Almost all the pics I have seen all over the country show that for the most part the people there have a great sense of style and are usually in great physical condition.

From my perspective, the future belongs to Brazil. The US is a washed up has-been.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Zon on June 05, 2010, 04:19:14 PM
ALA - "very few sources that reported success with bringing a Brazilian girl to the States. Seems you need to stay on their home turf. I guess it is because it appears to be almost a modern day paradise there with a booming economy, incredible beaches, no real military enemies, great food, music, vibe, and of course the women. Almost all the pics I have seen all over the country show that for the most part the people there have a great sense of style and are usually in great physical condition. "

Like I commented up-thread, it is very difficult to gain all the advantages with a multi cultural relationship and then 100% transplant the women to the US.   I see it time and time again, things become USA "normal"  - which is not in most men's interests.    That is why it is important, in my opinion to embrace the culture, family and friends equally - and that means at least 25% time in her country, maybe more.  In these case, the risks are much much more manageable, and life more happy, frankly.

So, I am researching the Southern cities of Brazil along with Argentina.   I am a fan of Colombia, but I hear that there might be more sincerity in Brazil.  I also am with the understanding that the classes are not so divided and raw (if you are ppor in Colombia, it is tends to leave a life time scar).

So, is there anybody that can make an intelligent utterance on the comparison, or is this thread about dead?

(PS - every once in a while I get info, or meet someone that is perfectly refined and attractive in Peru ( I prefer blancas and flacitas - not so into indiosa).   I know there are 1 or 2 contributors here that are big Peru fans.   It just seems that there is too little cream in the crop?  Still, very likely worth a visit)
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: kojak on June 06, 2010, 02:45:36 AM
Looks like we have similar opinions on this subject. I'm not ragging on the guys that transplant, I just choose not to take the risk of Americanizing her.

This is also why I would REALLY like to talk to some women in Honduras but wont. I can't see Honduras as a stable proposition for permanent residency. Costa Rica I can see, Brazil is a possibility (But the Cost of Living is significant), and a few others. Then again, this is why I plan on visiting all these countries so I can see what I would be getting into first hand.


I have  similar views of bringing latinas to live in the U.S. that's why I'm in the process of moving to Panama, at least if I bring a Brazilian, Colombiana or whatever I know culturally she'll be able to adjust to Panama without many problems. Keep in mind I'm not saying that a latina can't adjust to life in the U.S. but eventually they do change for better or worst when you bring them into the U.S.

One of the main reasons why I enjoyed the company of a Colombiana or Brazilian is because of their attitude towards life in general(Joie de vivre) even if they are poor there is a joy in there life that's intoxicating...I've seen it in other latinas to a lesser extent but you bring them her, that "Joie de Vivre" is going to change. From my point of view Colombian will adjust better to life in the U.S.

I use to work with several Colombianas when I lived in Austin TX several years ago, both of them came to the states after marrying gringos, both of them would cry all the time about how boring life here was, how bland everything was. Both of them were seriously contemplating returning to Colombia, one of them had family in Patterson NJ she would tell me how much fun it was going up there to visit... I laugh told her that Patterson was a sh**t hole compare to Austin. Both of them would go out partying most weekends while their husbands where busting their asses working. I told them that if they where married to Colombian guys that sh**t would never happen, one of them said probably not. I told both of them several times that it takes time to adjust to a new life and culture, with time they would realize that the U.S. was a great country regardless of what anybody says.

Brazil for the most parts its a great country, "country of the future" I do hope that all the accolades bestowed upon them do come to fruition but there are crippling issues facing that great country still, one of those issues been the small middle class "uneven wealth distribution" if they can conquer that issue lookout. Generally  speaking though the south is more develop than the rest of the country, better distribution of wealth produces a larger middle class less prone to leave their country looking for a better life. It can definitely happen just don't expect it to be like Colombia or other parts of Brazil, hell I've been told that they have more in common with American Women, don't know how truth that is but I've heard that.  
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 06, 2010, 08:29:04 PM
Brazil for the most parts its a great country, "country of the future"

Brazil is the "country of the future" since before I was born. And I'm 29. I do believe we have a great potential, but this excess of corruption may prevent us from going somewhere...

hell I've been told that they have more in common with American Women, don't know how truth that is but I've heard that.  

Totally true, especially in the South/Southeast (sadly for you guys, where the prettiest ones are....).
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: crusin2k8 on June 07, 2010, 07:49:44 AM
Hello Braziliangirl
 
You mentioned South and southeastern Brazil as having the prettiest gals, What areas would you be referring to and what makes them so special?  Do they have a certain look or personality traits?  

I have seen many women from Brazil and beauty was never in short supply
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Zon on June 07, 2010, 08:24:58 AM
B-Girl; Please clarify ---
Quote from: kojak on Yesterday at 04:45:36 AM "hell I've been told that they have more in common with American Women, don't know how truth that is but I've heard that."

B-Girl - "Totally true, especially in the South/Southeast (sadly for you guys, where the prettiest ones are....)."


Not EVERYTHING about American women is a negative.   What specifically do you mean?

- Age Gaps of more than 20 years are possible, but not normal in the US.  They certainly are normal in Colombia; Peru; and Eastern Europe.   America is a youth obsessed culture; so traits like intelligence and success are not as highly valued as in other countries.  Plus, very few people suffer REAL financial hardships.

- League Gaps.  On a similar note, America is Beauty obsessed.  So, if you ever see a "normal looking" 40 year old man hadn in hand with a knock out sexy 23 year old women ... there is social pressure and whispers.  This is almost exactly the opposite in Colombia and other culture where the most beautiful young ladies hardly take the good looking young men seriously.

- Happy and home and not DESPERATE to move ANYWHERE ELSE.  I understand women in South Brazil and Chile are happy and don't want to run away to a fairy land - the USA (by the way, the same is true with the MOST BEAUTIFUL women in Colombia).

I am well over 35 years of age but have tons of game (some think that is a good thing, some don't ... I am still not sure).  It is not uncommon for me to date hotties in the US in their 20's.  (The truth is that women do not value model looks like men value model looks). But why would I want to? (other than the obvious).   It is very very very hard to find a younger, attractive women in the US that has an inner world that values traditional views with a sincere willingness to form a family.  Again, this is the exact opposite in Colombia, and with other Latinas I have met and dated. 

I have not crossed South Brazil off my list - or Argentina for that matter. 

I am interested to hear your thoughts.  THANKS
I

Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: anm8tr on June 07, 2010, 05:53:13 PM

I use to work with several Colombianas when I lived in Austin TX several years ago, both of them came to the states after marrying gringos, both of them would cry all the time about how boring life here was, how bland everything was.

This is all so true! The same reason I keep preaching about having the ability to spend the right amount of time with a foreign girl no matter where they are from.

I will not ever do a K1 again after my last situation. 90 days is a ridiculously short amount of time to decide on marrying, unless and only if you have spent enough time with her in her country, otherwise I would recommend marrying in her country.

But this gets back to the original quote, it is a problem all too common when a girl is trying to adjust to life in the USA. I got the same feedback from my wife, but I thought she could weather the storm long enough for us to get settled in a little better.

But I also mentioned before that I met a Brazilian translator here in AZ and she told me how many transplanted Brazilian girls there were here and how she helped the Police and state communicate with these girls, since so many had left their husbands or things did not work out. So she was nice, but was warning me. I found her on craigslist and she was translating a telephone call for me to a Brazilian girl a few years back. I decided that learning Portuguese was just not in my game plan.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: anm8tr on June 07, 2010, 06:27:03 PM
(PS - every once in a while I get info, or meet someone that is perfectly refined and attractive in Peru ( I prefer blancas and flacitas - not so into indiosa).   I know there are 1 or 2 contributors here that are big Peru fans.   It just seems that there is too little cream in the crop?  Still, very likely worth a visit)

I am currently in contact with 3 Women in Medellin, Two Colombianas and one Chilean. I have only met 1 Chilean in my entire life, well at least that I knew was 100% Chilean and that is a girl that currently works for me, she is quite attractive but distinctly different than other SA women I have met. It's interesting watching my Mexican customers trying to figure out where she is from due to her light skin and Chilean accented Spanish. Most are very surprised she is Chilean. The Chilean I am corresponding with is very attractive and has quite a different outlook on life as compared to the Colombian girls. In fact she commented very highly on my detailed letter and she also responded the same back to me, which is an absolute first. The only reply I ever received similar was from a Brazilian girl in Belo.

But, I have also recently been in contact with an absolutely gorgeous Peruvian girl, but they are quite short in stature I am finding, this girl is 5'3" but built like a you know what! I was quite taken by surprise. She contacted me through AFA as did a zillion Filipino and Russian women. Onyl a few from Colombia have written, but many Peruvians, but nothing like the one I befriended. The bad part is she is too young for me at 25, well she turns 25 on the 17th. I had to draw the line at age 30 as an absolute minimum. Most women older than 30 have too many children already. I'm no spring chicken either, so I have some decision to make, do I want kids at 50? well, better now than never. I think family is one of the best ways to keep a foreign marriage together. OTOH, you don't want to end up chasing your spouse and kids back to their country either. I think we have all seen the horror stories on that.

But yes, Peru is very viable as is Chile for some researching.


Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 07, 2010, 06:38:06 PM
I'll bet a lot of women from foreign countries, period, wouldn't mind moving back to their native lands in a minute. Rarely a day doesn't go by that my wife doesn't talk, or at least think about it. It's just that the money we make and the money she makes and sends home, make life back there a lot easier for her family. Still, every last one of them works and/or goes to school--they're not free loaders. My wife's greatest dream is for us to have a home back in her country.

Sometimes, with all the poverty, corruption and pollution back there, I can't see why she misses it, besides the family element, but then again, they're not locked into a rat race fueled by materialism.

As some smart fellows have said, if you can live abroad with your wife, your chances for making it last are greater than if you marry her and stay stateside, especially if you can keep your pants on with all those hotties running around back in her country....
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 07, 2010, 07:53:34 PM
Hello Braziliangirl
 
You mentioned South and southeastern Brazil as having the prettiest gals, What areas would you be referring to and what makes them so special?  Do they have a certain look or personality traits?  

I have seen many women from Brazil and beauty was never in short supply

Hi crusin2k8,

I understand that the concept of beauty is totally relative. So I'm talking about what I think most of the guys would find beautiful (or the mains standards imposed to us by the media ;)). In South and Southeast people have less Amerindian influence and more European. So there you would find more girls with fair skin, light eyes... I'm from the North and here we have more of the Latin look, but still with some influence of the European look. I'd say even in the North, we look less like Amerindians than woman in Peru, for example.

People here use to say that the most beautiful women in Brazil are in Minas Gerais and Goiania, they have more like the girl next door look. Santa Catarina, Rio Grande do Sul and Paraná concentrate the European communities and that's where models we "export" like Giselle Bundchen and Alessandra Ambrosio are from. In Bahia you can find more mulatas. Rio and Sao Paulo, might have the largest diversity, because people from all over the country migrate there. Girls from Rio are really into taking care of themselves... Finally, in Pará and Amazonas is where you would find the more classic Latin look. Please notice that I didn't cover all the states.

Just to make clear, before someone shouts at me, I'm not saying that a certain look is better or worse. I'm just trying to explain and make it easier for you to picture how women look like here.

About the personality... I could say that South and Southeast have the more rich states, so girls there seem to get in touch more with other cultures, and because of that, they are more like American or European girls, career oriented and everything. In the North and Northeast, you may find more girls that are family oriented.

Again... It is not scientific or 100% accurate. It's just based on my observation (as someone who is born here and travels a lot) to help you with the big picture.

If is there anything else you want to know, just ask me.

Good look on your journey,
braziliangirl
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 07, 2010, 08:57:01 PM
B-Girl; Please clarify ---
Quote from: kojak on Yesterday at 04:45:36 AM "hell I've been told that they have more in common with American Women, don't know how truth that is but I've heard that."

B-Girl - "Totally true, especially in the South/Southeast (sadly for you guys, where the prettiest ones are....)."


Not EVERYTHING about American women is a negative.   What specifically do you mean?

Hello Zon!

I'm sorry if it sounded that anything in American women is negative. I said "sadly for you guys" because I understand that if you are here, that's because you don't want a woman that has a lot in common with AW. Otherwise you would just stay there, right?

I have many American friends and I would say they are among the nicest people I know. Honest, hardworking, always willing to help... I hope I'm not just lucky to know the "right" ones.

BUT... I observed that AW are losing their sense of femininity. And by that I mean what you call "value of traditional views with a sincere willingness to form a family". That seems to be happening on the more "developed" parts of Brazil too.

- Happy and home and not DESPERATE to move ANYWHERE ELSE.  I understand women in South Brazil and Chile are happy and don't want to run away to a fairy land - the USA (by the way, the same is true with the MOST BEAUTIFUL women in Colombia).

I could say the only ones that are "DESPERATE to move ANYWHERE ELSE" are the poor ones. Middle-class and rich ones are happy with the Disney and New York trips once in a while. They can get good jobs here, since they could paid for good education and everything.

But, love... oh love... I'm considered middle class and have a very good job here. But to pursue my dream of raising a family with this guy I was in love with I was about to move out to a tiny town in Poland... So, it is not impossible that one of those girls would go to the US for you.


I have not crossed South Brazil off my list - or Argentina for that matter. 


If you like the European look, this is the way to go. Though I'd say that Argentinian guys are much more handsome than Brazilian, so maybe you would have more chances here.

I am interested to hear your thoughts.  THANKS
I



You're welcome, if you or other guys need to know more about Brazil, just ask me.

I will say one more thing. I know girls from almost all over Brazil, and the nicest ones are complaining about the lack of quality men here. Basic things like just treating a woman right is totally being forgotten.

Best,
braziliangirl
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Zon on June 07, 2010, 09:46:16 PM
OKAY BrazilianGirl, your my new confidante in matters of the heart and travel ...  I don't know why, or how it happened but the two have become intertwined to me.  I think it is because I am not only seeking a partner in life, I also understand that i am willing to adopt a new culture and to partly become that place too.

So ... I did not take any offense to your observations on American society and American women.  I think you are right on with what you see as positive and negative.  There is a "role confusion" that is common in modern societies - I do not think any gender wins.  The men are not getting what they want and neither are the women.

Personally, I do like the European look.  And, that can be found in Colombia a little too.  I am especially curious about your observation about Brazilian guys being less attractive that Argentinian.  I had a Romanian girlfriend a couple of years ago.  I could not help but notice that all the Romanian women were beautiful to me, but the Romanian men where rather unattractive - how that hell is that possible:)   

Can you compare the positives and negatives of Brazil to Argentina for me?    I am a 7 in beginner Spanish on a scale from 1 - 10.  I have a good chance to become intermediate by the year's end - which is huge for me!   I am not against learning Portuguese - but HELL that will take time.  And, I understand that without Portuguese, it is difficult to get around and communicate?  That is why Argentina stays on my mind.  Plus, I think the cost of living and economics are better for the US dollar than in Brazil; but I could be mistaken.

Lastly, I would like to ask, in general of course, about the sincerity level you think most Brazilian people would have to a north American visitor.   In Colombia, it takes time to develop real, honest relationships.  It is difficult to not feel that people are just being interested for financial gain.  Do you think Brazil is different?

And about danger and violence ...  I know Rio has very dangerous places, but how about San Poa and the smaller cities in the South?   I don't mind getting scammed for a few dollars every now and then, but GOD DO I HATE TO HAVE TO WORRY about being kidnapped - that would suck.

Thanks for participating on the forum, but the way.  It is great to get a woman's perspective and to shift the focus away from Colombia for a change.

Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 07, 2010, 10:30:24 PM
Oh Zon! You are such a lucky guy. I just came back from Buenos Aires...

Now it's time to sleep, but I'll prepare a good report for you.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: kojak on June 08, 2010, 04:57:14 AM
quote by Zon:Yesterday at 10:24:58 AM 
 quote[Not EVERYTHING about American women is a negative.   What specifically do you mean?]quote



Yeah Zon I wasn't implying anything negative about AW but the fact is a lot guys are venturing overseas looking for that special one. My personal history with AW hasn't been that bad....AW generally speaking tend to be a product of their environment, they can be very picky when it come to choosing a mate, the reason why they are like this is because they CAN BE, plain and simple. Competition here in the states for the nicer looking ladies can be fierce, I've seen guys spent big money just to get close to a nice AW. Another reason why I tend to stay away from AW is because of what brazilgirl mention in one of her post "lack of femininity" its all good and well females trying to act like guys, you know the saying "imitation is the best form of flattery" but I don't want a masculine gal sleeping next to me, you know what I mean ;)

Me myself I've always been attracted to latinas, specially Colombianas and Brazilian, probably has something to do with my childhood growing up in Panama. For a half gringo kid it was heaven on earth, even later on in my life coming back to Panama opened up my eyes to all the great possibilities available to a gringo or in my case half gringo.

I got a question for you braziliangirl,  I've been corresponding with a garota through Parperfeito she is from Recife, I was wondering if that service "parperfeito" was pretty popular in Brazil. Is it widely use, your opinion would be most welcome?

Muito Obrigado!!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Kiltboy1 on June 08, 2010, 07:47:32 AM
I would not overlook Ecuadorian women either, not just because my wife is Echatoriana, but In the time I have spent there, there are some absolutely stunning women and very well educated and much more traditional then Colombianas and tall as well, My wife is 5'6, and I see many that height and contrary to popular belief, Ecuador is not one big Indian Reservation ;D. If you want a good educated, traditional woman and are tired of Colombia, Ecuador is a good choice and if I had not met my wife, I would still visit there as there are some great women in that country. Divorce rate is very low there.

KB
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 08, 2010, 08:07:53 AM
Re:
>>I would not overlook Ecuadorian women either, not just because my wife is Echatoriana, but In the time I have spent there, there are some absolutely stunning women and very well educated and much more traditional then Colombianas and tall as well,<<


It's nice to 'think outside of the envelope'--Ecuador, with some 13 million people, has a reputation for lovely womem. Quito and even more so, Guayaqui, are pretty big metropolitian areas.

There is so much variance among people in each country, but I'd dare to venture than there's a bit less drama overall in Ecuadorian women than you might find in Colombia or down in Brazil..
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 08, 2010, 08:10:56 AM
I would not overlook Ecuadorian women either, not just because my wife is Echatoriana, but In the time I have spent there, there are some absolutely stunning women and very well educated and much more traditional then Colombianas and tall as well, My wife is 5'6, and I see many that height and contrary to popular belief, Ecuador is not one big Indian Reservation ;D. If you want a good educated, traditional woman and are tired of Colombia, Ecuador is a good choice and if I had not met my wife, I would still visit there as there are some great women in that country. Divorce rate is very low there.

KB

I was thinking about saying that, Kiltboy1!

I work with some Ecuadorian women and I've been in Quito once. I made friends quickly and they were incredibly nice. One of the girls I knew was married to an American guy for some years, but  didn't even care to get a greencard or something like that (they were living in Quito). For me that shows that she was really interested in the guy and not on moving to the fairy land.

The girls I work with are the best. I have to interact with people from all over Latin America as well and many states in the US. And I would say that the girls in Ecuador are the best to work with, they are so dedicated, sweet and smart. They even care to try to speak in Portuguese with me. One of them is a senior manager and she is seen in the organization as an example of balance between work and family dedication. And they are pretty too. I guess if I were a guy I would definitely chose Ecuador.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 08, 2010, 08:17:32 AM
I'd dare to venture than there's a bit less drama overall in Ecuadorian women than you might find in Colombia or down in Brazil..

Totally agree.

And there, just like in Brazil, they are complaining about the lack of quality men.

I remember one day I was sat in a cafe with my friends in Quito, and I looked around. Almost all the tables were filled with single good looking girls. That was when I realized "the crisis" may be global LOL
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: kojak on June 08, 2010, 09:32:37 AM
Re:
>>I would not overlook Ecuadorian women either, not just because my wife is Echatoriana, but In the time I have spent there, there are some absolutely stunning women and very well educated and much more traditional then Colombianas and tall as well,<<


It's nice to 'think outside of the envelope'--Ecuador, with some 13 million people, has a reputation for lovely womem. Quito and even more so, Guayaqui, are pretty big metropolitian areas.

There is so much variance among people in each country, but I'd dare to venture than there's a bit less drama overall in Ecuadorian women than you might find in Colombia or down in Brazil..

This off topic but I got to asked ROBERT ANGEL if that lady on your picture is your wife, she is a beautiful ladies if she is. She looks like a latina, I've be told that some filipinas are mix with spanish but she looks more spanish than anything else. You are a lucky man indeed, congratulations Robert on such a nice find!!!   
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 08, 2010, 09:54:19 AM
This off topic but I got to asked ROBERT ANGEL if that lady on your picture is your wife, she is a beautiful ladies if she is. She looks like a latina, I've be told that some filipinas are mix with spanish but she looks more spanish than anything else. You are a lucky man indeed, congratulations Robert on such a nice find!!!   

I guess many latinas look like filipinas... When I'm at the US, someone always ask me if I am filipina.

And yes, Robert, your lady looks great! Congratulations :)
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 08, 2010, 10:01:19 AM
I got a question for you braziliangirl,  I've been corresponding with a garota through Parperfeito she is from Recife, I was wondering if that service "parperfeito" was pretty popular in Brazil. Is it widely use, your opinion would be most welcome?

Muito Obrigado!!

I've heard of Parperfeito and a friend of mine was using it. But online dating is something that people here in Brazil are very ashamed to talk about. I would tell you that unless she is looking for someone outside of where they live, a girl with chances to get a nice guy in real life would never apply for such service.

If you plan to come to Brazil, Recife is a very nice place. Wonderful beaches around there.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 08, 2010, 11:58:57 AM
Regarding

>>And yes, Robert, your lady looks great<<

Well, first of all--THANKS! Joy is Filipina, but there's definitely Spanish blood in her family, as is quite common, with Spain having run for the place for I don't know how long--but a long time. As you know, the standard greeting in the 7000+ nation is Kumu sta ka? --or something close, as there are many dialects and some are very close to Spanish to the point where if you're good in Spanish, you can get by. Not every where there, but in some places for sure. I was just reading a site on Zamboanga, Philippines, and at the top, it has "Zamboanga Hermosa!  Bienvenidos!"--I'm sure they take liberties with the language, but you get the idea...

Anyways--I want to take some time --and it would probably take all of 15 minutes if I press the right keys, to copy maybe 6 or 8 random profiles of Filipinas and show how some look purely Spanish, such as with milky white skin and well defined noses, some like my wife in the picture, with a cream clored complexion, to Chinese of similar variance in complexion, to Japanese, Korean, Indo-Maly and Indian looking women, to name but a few over there.

There are just sooo many different sorts of people there, and many are beautiful in different ways. Something for everyone, I guess.

I am sure I'm going to insult somebody here (Hey--someone call Ray!) but --and this is just ME--I don't care for too much 'drama'--not having to chase and conquer, fight and make up--no more 'kisses and hand grenades' for me. I was pretty much done with that by High School. Again, that's just me and some guys just LOVE and LIVE for that 'give and take'. Yes, sex is usually better after you fight and make up, but if you're lucky, communicate openly and keep it fresh, it can be pretty damn good already.

Three of my Uncles married Hispanic women and they treated me like a Prince--I was never hungry and always had a bed at their house. But temper? Si! My late Uncle Luke made incredible money, suprisingly from driving a truck long distances. I guess he'd be making close to $200,000 today. But he'd go away for  2-3 weeks and come back and Aunt Jenny would have put an inground swimming pool in the back yard to 'surprise' him. Or she'd replace the new carpet with 'newer' carpet. And generous to all in the family--as a teen, I never lacked movie money for a date. Lord, she could burn through some money and between the rice and beans, Tom Collins and Cuba Libres' flying around, she had a temper you could fire up the grill with. So did a lot of the Spanish gals I dated and my dear Aunts Sonia and Norma were pretty firey too.

Here I go again, rambling on and ticking off half the people here--but anyway, in the Philippines, I just had better luck with gals from the country (province) who after high school went to the big city for college or at least meaningful work. In the city, they saw, often for the first time, prostitutes, drinking, drugs and temptations, but never forgot (hopefully) their roots. Back in the province, where if you were an easy lay or drunk--that's the rep you had to live with, most teenage girls wouldn't dare.

I think a lot of what I am saying here you can generalize to other nations and bringing spouses to the USA.

Most foreign women who I see come to the USA and 'go bad' don't have much in the way of education or job prospects once they get here. They come to the USA from a very, very simple back round and BOOM, the big city, bright lights and all that comes with it, overwhelms them. They choose the wrong friends. We met a gal last weekend from a barangay (village) not far from my wife's in the distant province, (very rare thing) who was working in a strip club and she never told her husband--a soldier serving in Iraq. I was dumb founded and ready to puke. I asked my wife how someone from so close to her village and environment could be sooo diffeent and she explained "That's why our parents sent us to Davao (a big city) -so we could be exposed to such things while focusing on our education--that girl never saw anything until she left her village, she probably didn't have a strong family value mindset and was easily led 'astray'.


Most Filipnas I know are calmer tempered than most Latinos I know. Again--that's just me and yes, there are variances ALL over. Both have a sense of fashion and many may enjoy gossip, but my wife is quite humble, hates gossip and too much talk (why the hell she married me, I'll never know)  but if I say something remotely WRONG in being critical of her, her country or family and her pride will come out.  We soloicit each other's opinion and no matter how stupid I get, she never calls me out in public. >>RESPECT<< If someone ELSE does hurts her verbally, chances are she'll let it slide, but after the lights are out, she'll share with me the slight and make me swear not to put a contract out on the offending person.

She has a degree from a fine school in computer engineering, but doesn't pretend she's better than anyone else. She's TOO nice in some ways and she doesn't think she's pretty, no matter how many people tell her how she's lovely. She wears no, or very, very little makeup and clear nail polish, if that, except maybe on her toes--ha ha. What you see in the picture is how she looks when she wakes up and it totally amazes me. She has a cute little gap between her front teeth and I told her if she wanted, we could easily have it filled in, but her Mom has that too and a such, she wants to keep it and not risk offending her family by going and changing. She has a brilliant white, killer smile anyways. Most American women's faces came out of several jars of makeup and w/o are unrecognizable. After we've been out somewhere, if there was another lovely lady present, Joy will often say in private "She's a 'hottie' looking woman isn't she?--I wish I could be a 'hottie' looking woman--in college, I didn't even get noticed'...". Well, that's MY GOOD LUCK!

Not to say that theere aren't some WONDERFUL people w/o educations, because there are and some of the dumbest and snobbiest jerks are the highly educated, so called middle and upper class people. My Grandparents were Irish and Italian immigrants and without high School educations, became better educated than I am, even with three graduate degrees. They could kick my ass in any intellectual discussion if they wanted to and knew classical literature I don't even know the titles of. My family would disown me if I judged people merely on education and looks alone.


I know there are some great women in Brazil and Colombia, but I have never taken the main route or straight line in my life. I think I'd look at places like Peru and Ecuador for starters, IF I was single and searching in L.A., but I'd go back to to Philippines first for sure. My heart laughs and cries with those people's.

I would love to go back to Mexico (certain places) and visit Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Argentina and a few other places, but I think I'd probably meet the right gal (if I hadn't found her already) in places more off the beaten path. That said, remember that in matters of the heart, nothing is certain and love will be right where you find it. Hopefully it will transfer well and last many years for you!

Sorry for the ramble....
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 08, 2010, 05:52:44 PM
robert,

you posts about your girl were one influences on my decision to break up with my german ex. you really sound like you love her and if you sound like this here, i can imagine the things you say to her.

german guy would be like "did you ran today? how many km?" "honey, i've just came out of the hospital, remember?" "that's no excuse, if you want to be with me, run!".

cute  >:(
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Woody on June 08, 2010, 07:46:48 PM
german guy would be like "did you ran today? how many km?" "honey, i've just came out of the hospital, remember?" "that's no excuse, if you want to be with me, run!".

Well, I guess that would make him a deutch bag. :P

Seriously, some men feel that being controlling and an [snip] is how to be the male in a relationship. It is not. Not saying to put the woman on a pedestal, then she loses all respect for you and you have doomed the relationship. There is nothing stopping you from complimenting her and being that reassuring emotional rock in her life. Love and be loved in return, simple concept. I don't understand why so many people just can't grasp that concept.

I also find that being able to laugh at MYSELF helps a lot. I poke fun at others, but I use self-deprecating humor all the time!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: whitey on June 08, 2010, 08:03:30 PM
I am sure I'm going to insult somebody here (Hey--someone call Ray!) but --and this is just ME--I don't care for too much 'drama'--not having to chase and conquer, fight and make up--no more 'kisses and hand grenades' for me. I was pretty much done with that by High School. Again, that's just me and some guys just LOVE and LIVE for that 'give and take'. Yes, sex is usually better after you fight and make up, but if you're lucky, communicate openly and keep it fresh, it can be pretty damn good already.

You insult me sir!  Pistols at dawn!

I can't handle the drama either.  My Colombiana is very calm, but definitely not lacking in passion.  They're not all drama queens.

She's TOO nice in some ways and she doesn't think she's pretty, no matter how many people tell her how she's lovely. She wears no, or very, very little makeup and clear nail polish, if that, except maybe on her toes--ha ha. What you see in the picture is how she looks when she wakes up and it totally amazes me.

If I may quote my fellow Canadian Mike Myers: "She's such a babe, if she was president she'd be Babraham Lincoln".

You're wife is very attractive, but more importantly she sounds like a beautiful person ... congratulations amigo!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: michaelb on June 08, 2010, 09:05:45 PM
Hey, KB, a guy I worked with just retired and is going to move to Cuenca in about a month. Do you or your wife know the place? He's just interested in a cheap, no stress retirement place, not looking for romance nor business opportunity. Yes, he HAS been there before, and yes he HAS been granted a pensioner visa which will let him live there full time. Just wondering what it's like. The Wikipedia article about it mentions that it's a UNESCO World Heritage Site because of its colonial architecture.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: kojak on June 08, 2010, 09:39:45 PM
I've heard of Parperfeito and a friend of mine was using it. But online dating is something that people here in Brazil are very ashamed to talk about. I would tell you that unless she is looking for someone outside of where they live, a girl with chances to get a nice guy in real life would never apply for such service.

If you plan to come to Brazil, Recife is a very nice place. Wonderful beaches around there.

Thank for your answer brazilgirl, I didn't know that online dating was frowned upon by many Brazilian. Sounds like the U.S. back in the days when your where consider a freak for using the internet to date. Now Here in the U.S. social networking (facebook, myspace, twitter, hi5, ect)are probably the most popular avenue of dating or socializing in this the U.S.  I think with time more Brazilians would be more open to online dating, especially within the newer generation.

I'm actually surprised by the number of beautiful garotas you can find on parperfeito, from pretty much every area of Brazil. You can definitely see the differences by region just by looking at the pictures of the ladies on parperfeito. The last time I went to brazil I actually wanted to go to Recife but was caution not to, a lot of violent crime "murder capital of Brazil" I don't know how it is now but I'm definitely thinking about it. Also I'm surprise by how many lorias they are in Recife, I taught southern Brazil was the only area that you could find loiras.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 08, 2010, 10:39:34 PM
Yea Whitey--I hear you when you say:

""My Colombiana is very calm, but definitely not lacking in passion.  They're not all drama queens""

That's why I always say things like 'most' 'not all', etc. Women in any given nation are as varied as weather.

But then again, I think that perhaps some guys like Woody relish that kind of challenge, sort of like taming lions, so to speak --until they're eating out of their hands in a happy symbiosis!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 08, 2010, 10:49:58 PM
Thank for your answer brazilgirl, I didn't know that online dating was frowned upon by many Brazilian. Sounds like the U.S. back in the days when your where consider a freak for using the internet to date. Now Here in the U.S. social networking (facebook, myspace, twitter, hi5, ect)are probably the most popular avenue of dating or socializing in this the U.S.  I think with time more Brazilians would be more open to online dating, especially within the newer generation.

Here in Brazil people are really into social networking. Check out the demographics on Orkut for example. We took over it. Now we are taking over Facebook. But people are still shamed of online dating. The general sense is that they are for losers, people that can not get anyone in real life.

I'm actually surprised by the number of beautiful garotas you can find on parperfeito, from pretty much every area of Brazil. You can definitely see the differences by region just by looking at the pictures of the ladies on parperfeito. The last time I went to brazil I actually wanted to go to Recife but was caution not to, a lot of violent crime "murder capital of Brazil" I don't know how it is now but I'm definitely thinking about it. Also I'm surprise by how many lorias they are in Recife, I taught southern Brazil was the only area that you could find loiras.

There was a time when things were pretty bad in Recife. But now it seems to be better...

About the loiras, hydrogen peroxide can be found anywhere :P. There are also a lot of blonds with fair skin in Fortaleza, for example, but they are not as pretty as the ones in the South. I don't know the ones in Recife...

I'm starting to hate myself for that talk :-[. I guess I'm spending to much time on this forum and I'm starting to talk like a guy LOL
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: kojak on June 09, 2010, 12:11:50 AM
This is all so true! The same reason I keep preaching about having the ability to spend the right amount of time with a foreign girl no matter where they are from.

I will not ever do a K1 again after my last situation. 90 days is a ridiculously short amount of time to decide on marrying, unless and only if you have spent enough time with her in her country, otherwise I would recommend marrying in her country.

But this gets back to the original quote, it is a problem all too common when a girl is trying to adjust to life in the USA. I got the same feedback from my wife, but I thought she could weather the storm long enough for us to get settled in a little better.

But I also mentioned before that I met a Brazilian translator here in AZ and she told me how many transplanted Brazilian girls there were here and how she helped the Police and state communicate with these girls, since so many had left their husbands or things did not work out. So she was nice, but was warning me. I found her on craigslist and she was translating a telephone call for me to a Brazilian girl a few years back. I decided that learning Portuguese was just not in my game plan.


Very true anm8tr specially latinas, you have to make the sacrifice of really getting to know the lady your courting. Also agree that marrying in her country is the best option, it save money and having all her family and friends there make for a happy bride. I definitely  see the difference in Colombianas now a days from the ones I met 10 years ago. I think that I'm going to correspond with Colombianas that are from smaller cities Armenia, Pereira, Bucaramanga, Monteria, Ibague ect. I think that you might be able to avoid all the drama that you get with city girls if you look in places that foreigner are rarely seen.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: kojak on June 09, 2010, 12:58:33 AM
quote by Robert Angel
>>>I don't care for too much 'drama'--not having to chase and conquer, fight and make up--no more 'kisses and hand grenades' for me.<<<


Yeah Robert that was my biggest problem with my ex caleña,  passion and emotion are not bad things when used in moderation but my ex use to throw some big fits, use to drive me insane. She wanted to have children, I told her lets wait till she at least gets here to the states, she just went crazy threw a big fits, ran out of the apartment I literally had to chase her down. She told me that she was afraid that I might not comeback for her, keep in mine that I had just married her.

Threw a big fit during our honeymoon in san andres because I was checking out Colombianas in tangas so what, hell I just married you, I didn't  say sh**t when she was been approached by guys on the beach. I'm definitely aware of the latina personality my mom, aunts, cousins are latinas so it comes with the territory. 
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Kiltboy1 on June 09, 2010, 06:58:42 AM
michaelb

We have been to Cuenca and it is a very nice place. Yes, Very colonial as well and one of the fastest growing places for Ex Pat Americans to retire . Actually, Cuenca was rated the # 1 place to retire in the entire world based on scale of economy, access to healthcare , cost of living and quality of life. It has a climate similar to Medellin as well, so you can grow veggies, etc year round. Basically a 4 bedroom house, 6 day a week maid, Gardner, health insurance, budget to eat out and movies at least 3 times a week will set you back between $1800-2000 US a month. I do not know specific places as we were only there overnight on our way to Salinas

KB
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 09, 2010, 07:08:36 AM
Well, I guess that would make him a deutch bag. :P

Seriously, some men feel that being controlling and an [snip] is how to be the male in a relationship. It is not. Not saying to put the woman on a pedestal, then she loses all respect for you and you have doomed the relationship. There is nothing stopping you from complimenting her and being that reassuring emotional rock in her life. Love and be loved in return, simple concept. I don't understand why so many people just can't grasp that concept.

I also find that being able to laugh at MYSELF helps a lot. I poke fun at others, but I use self-deprecating humor all the time!

Woody,

I really like your posts because we share this view of men and women having different roles in a relationship (and in the whole society) based on their genetics and everything. I agree that women are made to nurture, and man to protect. And I guess every woman seeks to be protected and man to be nurtured.

But what I see in our society is a complete mix up. Women in general is losing the sense of femininity and men, the sense of masculinity.

The guy was great in many other aspects, and maybe that's why I put up with those things for one year. I did my best to play my role, maybe wishing that if I did that, he would play his role too. But this one from the hospital was just too much. And when I tried to tell him how I felt (not accusing, not fighting, using my sweetest voice and calling him baby), he just stepped out. And now he has been gone for almost two weeks. Not a single word from him. This is what I call lack of manliness :(

I guess when I find someone, I'll hire you to give him some classes on that subject ;D

All the best!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Kiltboy1 on June 09, 2010, 07:18:11 AM
BrazilGirl

I hear you when you talk about German guys. I have met several and all were decent men, but there view on how to treat women was similar the way Latin men treat them as very Machista. I wish when I was single, I would have made it to Brazil to see the country and taste the wonderful food that you have there. Maybe this post will inspire the singles guys here to forego a Colombia trip and see what the Brazil has to offer.

KB
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 09, 2010, 07:47:32 AM
BrazilGirl

I hear you when you talk about German guys. I have met several and all were decent men, but there view on how to treat women was similar the way Latin men treat them as very Machista. I wish when I was single, I would have made it to Brazil to see the country and taste the wonderful food that you have there. Maybe this post will inspire the singles guys here to forego a Colombia trip and see what the Brazil has to offer.

KB

OK. Now Germany is also crossed off my list too.

I believe you made the right choice. As I said on other post, the girls from Ecuador are the best. If a guy asks where to go to find a nice wife, I will definitely tell him to go there. I don't understand all the hype about Colombia...

About the food, if you live in Quito, whenever I have a work trip there, I can cook you and your beautiful wife a wonderful feijoada! Or I can send her my secret recipes ;D
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Kiltboy1 on June 09, 2010, 08:08:28 AM
Please do send me the recipies :P

We cannot get back to Quito until next summer due to my wife's promotion to branch manager at the credit union she works for, so I need some good Brazilian food !

KB
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: kojak on June 09, 2010, 08:26:52 AM
michaelb

We have been to Cuenca and it is a very nice place. Yes, Very colonial as well and one of the fastest growing places for Ex Pat Americans to retire . Actually, Cuenca was rated the # 1 place to retire in the entire world based on scale of economy, access to healthcare , cost of living and quality of life. It has a climate similar to Medellin as well, so you can grow veggies, etc year round. Basically a 4 bedroom house, 6 day a week maid, Gardner, health insurance, budget to eat out and movies at least 3 times a week will set you back between $1800-2000 US a month. I do not know specific places as we were only there overnight on our way to Salinas

KB

KB Cuenca sounds like a pretty nice place, I'm actually a big fan of the Panama hats that come out of Ecuador, got a pretty nice collection. In Panama they are pumping up this town called Boquete, really nice place like Cuenca touted as the best place to retire in the world four or five years in a row.

Just like Cuenca and Medellin mountain spring like weather year around, problem with Boquete now is that is too dam expensive, to many American and European bought homes there, So gringo pricing is in full effect. Homes going for 300k on up that's crazy for Panama and the sad thing is that the people that are gringo pricing most of those homes are gringos dam shame I tell you. Go up to the next town where very few gringos live and the prices are a fraction of what you pay in Boquete. I hope Cuenca doesn't become like that!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Bob_S on June 09, 2010, 12:16:42 PM
Well, I guess that would make him a deutch bag. :P
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Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Woody on June 09, 2010, 01:16:42 PM
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I was waiting for someone to catch that. :)
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Woody on June 09, 2010, 01:35:06 PM
I really like your posts because we share this view of men and women having different roles in a relationship (and in the whole society) based on their genetics and everything. I agree that women are made to nurture, and man to protect. And I guess every woman seeks to be protected and man to be nurtured.

But what I see in our society is a complete mix up. Women in general is losing the sense of femininity and men, the sense of masculinity.

The guy was great in many other aspects, and maybe that's why I put up with those things for one year. I did my best to play my role, maybe wishing that if I did that, he would play his role too. But this one from the hospital was just too much. And when I tried to tell him how I felt (not accusing, not fighting, using my sweetest voice and calling him baby), he just stepped out. And now he has been gone for almost two weeks. Not a single word from him. This is what I call lack of manliness :(

I guess when I find someone, I'll hire you to give him some classes on that subject ;D

All the best!

Hah, I would be the worst to take advice from. Sure I have sound advice, but my own relationships usually end up a smoldering crater because of my own passive-aggressive tendencies. That, and I have impossibly high standards and am a bit hypocritical at times. That said, I am working on it. I get more tempered with age.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 09, 2010, 04:12:08 PM
I was waiting for someone to catch that. :)

Oh... I did, but I can't spit on the plate where I ate ;D
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 09, 2010, 07:21:01 PM
Whitey & Kilt.,

Your wives are also quite lovely--very beautiful women indeed.

It's silly how they say in the USA you can never be TOO thin, too tan or too rich, but while I can't see your bank accounts, you certainly have a perfect situation on the first two accounts!

I like my women as I like my coffee--creamy colored and sweet!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Woody on June 09, 2010, 07:24:53 PM
I like my women as I like my coffee--creamy colored and sweet!

Funny, because I like my women as I like my beer--dark and intoxicating!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 09, 2010, 08:04:39 PM
Yea man, Woody,

It's guys like us--with different tastes, that keep this world spinning around in such unique ways!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: michaelb on June 09, 2010, 08:34:03 PM
Thanks, KB. Sounds like a nice place. Fastest growing place for ex-pat retirement? Really? He told me that there were only about 700 gringos in the whole place and that there was some book store that was more or less their gathering place. Maybe he was misinformed? Oh well, hope he enjoys it.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: fathertime on June 09, 2010, 08:41:58 PM
Hah, I would be the worst to take advice from. Sure I have sound advice, but my own relationships usually end up a smoldering crater because of my own passive-aggressive tendencies. That, and I have impossibly high standards and am a bit hypocritical at times. That said, I am working on it. I get more tempered with age.

hey young man!  it is great that you recognize your own foibles and aren't so arrogant...really that will make you much easier for a woman to coexist with...the standards start to falter the older you get..at least that is my experience...a few defining good traits are about all it took to hook me...oh and a ultrafine face and body didn't hurt! even if it was more than i deserved :D

Fathertime!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: whitey on June 09, 2010, 09:30:22 PM
Whitey & Kilt.,

Your wives are also quite lovely--very beautiful women indeed.

Thanks Robert.  I mentioned what you said to her tonight ... she said "gracias mi amor".  We're not married yet ... I'm still working on the paperwork and if all goes well we'll be married in Barranquilla next month.

Like your wife, she's even more beautiful on the inside.

I like my women as I like my coffee--creamy colored and sweet!

Yep, me too!!!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Kiltboy1 on June 10, 2010, 07:12:11 AM
Whitey & Kilt.,

Your wives are also quite lovely--very beautiful women indeed.

It's silly how they say in the USA you can never be TOO thin, too tan or too rich, but while I can't see your bank accounts, you certainly have a perfect situation on the first two accounts!

I like my women as I like my coffee--creamy colored and sweet!


Thanks Robert

Your wife is very pretty and I was ready to forget Latin women and start my Asian hunt  and then I met Fer, but I like the way Asian women look but it is just a long dam way from North Carolina

Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Alabamaboy! on June 10, 2010, 08:05:09 AM
Thanks, KB. Sounds like a nice place. Fastest growing place for ex-pat retirement? Really? He told me that there were only about 700 gringos in the whole place and that there was some book store that was more or less their gathering place. Maybe he was misinformed? Oh well, hope he enjoys it.

I get a magazine called "International Living" or something like that. And it is always touting Cuenca as being the best or one of the best places to retire. The fotos look incredible. Definitely caught my eye.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: afj56 on June 21, 2010, 12:45:58 PM
Hello Braziliangirl,
 
I enjoy reading your insights on Brazil and Colombia.  I have visited Bogota,Colombia, Rio and Bahia, Brazil.  I enjoyed Bogota and I loved Rio and Bahia.  The weather, beaches and people of Brazil are very nice.  I think I would love Colombia if I visited Medellin, Cali, Barranquilla/Santa Marta.  I plan on visiting Recife, Natal, Olinda, and Maragogi in November.  The thought of going to Brazil and not going to Rio and Salvador, Bahia, hurts.  I have fallen in love with the morenas and mulatas of Brazil.  The paisas of Medellin are unbelievable too.  I don't exclude anyone.  Beauty is everywhere.  Being an African American, will I find a high concentration of morenas and mulatas in the northeast region of Brazil that I will be traveling to in November, or would I have to concentrate on Salvador and Rio?  I really need to learn more Spanish and Portuguese.  Thank you for your knowledge.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Henry on June 21, 2010, 05:51:59 PM
Colombia and Ecuador are much closer than Brazil for me. That makes for much more effective usage of vacation time. Plus I am not a fan of long plane flights. I am also looking for a sexually conservative woman, and from what I have read, that rules out many Brasileras.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Woody on June 21, 2010, 05:56:50 PM
I am also looking for a sexually conservative woman, and from what I have read, that rules out many Brasileras.

Really? Really? {deeper voice} Really?

Sexually conservative and you are looking at Colombia?
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: whitey on June 21, 2010, 06:12:23 PM
Really? Really? {deeper voice} Really?

Sexually conservative and you are looking at Colombia?

OK, I was going to let that one go by, but now that Woody has jumped in, I cant resist!  ;)

Henry, by sexually conservative, do you mean a woman who only (for example) likes the missionary position and sex once a month unless trying to conceive ... or a woman who is faithful?

If it's the former, the well is going to be pretty dry in Colombia!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Henry on June 21, 2010, 06:38:49 PM
Hmm, well I know Kiltboy gives me the impression they are all easy down there. I do know some guys who claim their wives had only slept with one or two guys before them, but maybe their wives were lying.

I didnt say boring. I am just saying not a skank. :D

If I go there myself and verify that it isnt all that sexually conservative, then I will move on to Ecuador. Only reason why Ecuador is not number one on my list is simply because the greater population of Colombia makes me believe there is greater opportunity for finding a good woman there.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 21, 2010, 06:40:07 PM
>>Sexually conservative and you are looking at Colombia?<<

Like looking for Eskimos in Fiji, me thinks....
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 21, 2010, 06:51:03 PM
Sexually conservative in Colombia? Maybe you could wait outside the convent for girls who flunk out of nun school.....
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Henry on June 21, 2010, 06:52:49 PM
Now that's interesting. So four nays on sexual conservatism in Colombia.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: utopiacowboy on June 21, 2010, 06:53:10 PM
Hmm, well I know Kiltboy gives me the impression they are all easy down there. I do know some guys who claim their wives had only slept with one or two guys before them, but maybe their wives were lying.

I didnt say boring. I am just saying not a skank. :D

If I go there myself and verify that it isnt all that sexually conservative, then I will move on to Ecuador. Only reason why Ecuador is not number one on my list is simply because the greater population of Colombia makes me believe there is greater opportunity for finding a good woman there.

I know my wife pretty well at this point and I am certain that the only men she has slept with are her husbands, one dead and one alive. Back in the day, a lot of Colombian society was conservative but for the most part things have changed with the youth of today. OTOH, there is not a sluttier population of young girls on the planet than in the US. Gang bangs, serial partners, lesbian experimentation, you name it. A complete generation of hos.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Henry on June 21, 2010, 07:00:41 PM
Yeah. Pretty much most of the AWs have experimented with licking carpet, havent they? Not so sound too graphic. But it is more like a rite of passage now with AWs.

The other reason why I was thinking COL over ECU is that when I went to ECU, it just seemed like an Anglo country where the women are difficult to meet. They arent really outgoing (that may go well with sexual conservatism though).

I have read articles by Ecuadorians talking about sex before marriage, abortion, etc., and they do seem very conservative down there sexually.

Still, how do you meet them? I am not an online dater, and I do think the *exclusive* club of beauties will never post ads online (no offense to anyone).

Maybe there is a much lesser chance of the pretty women being grabbed by Narcos and Mafiosi in ECU., too.

Their population is just so much smaller than COL it makes me wonder though.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: utopiacowboy on June 21, 2010, 07:06:36 PM
How do you meet them? Try church.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Woody on June 21, 2010, 07:09:44 PM
How do you meet them? Try church.

Exactly what I was thinking. Why not? If you are excluding online dating, well, you need to commit some serious time in country. I'm not sure how exactly you expect this to play out in ANY foreign country with what you said.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 21, 2010, 07:11:27 PM
Re:

>>How do you meet them? Try church.<<

I've seen a couple prostitutes approach a john, propose a threesome, get turned down and decide to attend mass instead, as the church bells tolled ....
 
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Henry on June 21, 2010, 07:29:04 PM
How do you meet them? Try church.

That's an idea. My best idea was just hanging out around the local universities and trying to strike up conversations with people.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: whitey on June 21, 2010, 07:42:20 PM
Henry, sounds like by conservative you mean not promiscuous, with few sexual partners, and faithful in a relationship.

My (very) limited experience is that there are many women like that available in Colombia, but probably the majority aren't.  You'll need to pick well and observe behavior over time.  Your odds are probably better in other countries.

The standard goal for almost every Colombian guy (as told to me by male Colombian friends) is to have a wife, a mistress, and one or two girlfriends.  They are not all doing the same woman ... so ... it's easy to do the math and assume that many women are either unfaithful or promiscuous.

I'm told this is a little more prevalent on the coast, but still happens everywhere.

The GREAT thing is, that if you find a good woman, although she won't have much experience, she's likely to be VERY passionate.  After all, "Colombia es pasion!"   ;D     

 
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 21, 2010, 08:28:51 PM
Hello Braziliangirl,
  
I enjoy reading your insights on Brazil and Colombia.  I have visited Bogota,Colombia, Rio and Bahia, Brazil.  I enjoyed Bogota and I loved Rio and Bahia.  The weather, beaches and people of Brazil are very nice.  I think I would love Colombia if I visited Medellin, Cali, Barranquilla/Santa Marta.  I plan on visiting Recife, Natal, Olinda, and Maragogi in November.  The thought of going to Brazil and not going to Rio and Salvador, Bahia, hurts.  I have fallen in love with the morenas and mulatas of Brazil.  The paisas of Medellin are unbelievable too.  I don't exclude anyone.  Beauty is everywhere.  Being an African American, will I find a high concentration of morenas and mulatas in the northeast region of Brazil that I will be traveling to in November, or would I have to concentrate on Salvador and Rio?  I really need to learn more Spanish and Portuguese.  Thank you for your knowledge.

Hello afj56!

Welcome to the forum.

Can you believe I've never been to those places? Just Rio (the most beautiful city in the world). But the statistics show that most of the mulatas are in Bahia and Rio. You will find morenas also in the North (like Belém, Manaus), but they are more influenced by the indigenous people's looks. In Recife and Natal you'll see many blondes. But I think that's great for you. Here in Brazil the blondes love the African American look. In fact, I guess every girl likes it. All of the girls say that everyone has to have a 'negão' (it's not pejorative here) at least once in their lives.

I think that's great you don't exclude anyone. By the thinks I learned here, I think Colombians and Brazilians are very very similar...
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 21, 2010, 08:38:25 PM
Colombia and Ecuador are much closer than Brazil for me. That makes for much more effective usage of vacation time. Plus I am not a fan of long plane flights. I am also looking for a sexually conservative woman, and from what I have read, that rules out many Brasileras.

Sweetheart,

Have you ever been to Brazil? If not, can I buy a ticket? Yes... You would also need a visa, but I can take care of that for you too.

Once you get here, I'm sure all of your prejudice will be gone and you'll be a very happy man.

And since I'm here, I'll put a spell on you. You'll fall in love with a Brazilian girl that is smart, amazingly beautiful, faithful, very dedicated to you, has a great personality and everything else you dream about and never thought you would find in a girl from my country.

Beijo!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Henry on June 21, 2010, 09:11:15 PM
Sweetheart,

Have you ever been to Brazil? If not, can I buy a ticket? Yes... You would also need a visa, but I can take care of that for you too.

Once you get here, I'm sure all of your prejudice will be gone and you'll be a very happy man.

And since I'm here, I'll put a spell on you. You'll fall in love with a Brazilian girl that is smart, amazingly beautiful, faithful, very dedicated to you, has a great personality and everything else you dream about and never thought you would find in a girl from my country.

Beijo!
I correspond with some Brazil guys online. They say the marriage-divorce laws in Brazil are very similar to Britain and the USA.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 21, 2010, 09:18:58 PM
I correspond with some Brazil guys online. They say the marriage-divorce laws in Brazil are very similar to Britain and the USA.

Where are they from? Southeast?
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Woody on June 21, 2010, 11:01:54 PM
a Brazilian girl that is smart, amazingly beautiful, faithful, very dedicated to you, has a great personality and everything else you dream about

Are you talking about yourself again? :D
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 21, 2010, 11:37:30 PM
Are you talking about yourself again? :D

Oh no... The spell was on him not on me :P

And i never talk about myself. I'm not self-centered  ;D
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: vallenatoman on June 22, 2010, 10:34:01 PM
Regarding Brazillian women versus Colombian.

Im being honest here. Although the idea is they are sexy sweet fun... the last part is they (most) have sex with anyone at the drop of a hat.

i have been told all my life.....if you want to party and hook up with unlimited women go to brazil....for a wife go to colombia.

Now that doesnt mean people are considered "bad" like venezuella has a negative view of them as a whole by many cultures.

and of course its not every brazillian girl but probably enough to truly be true even if we dont want to admit it.

just putting forth what i have learned :) may be off a bit im not perfect of course
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: michaelb on June 23, 2010, 06:07:50 PM
Re:

>>How do you meet them? Try church.<<

I've seen a couple prostitutes approach a john, propose a threesome, get turned down and decide to attend mass instead, as the church bells tolled ....
 


Patrick: Wait here a moment, I want to go to confession.
Michael: Alright.
Patrick: Bless me father.....I committed adultery with a married woman.
Priest: Was it Nancy O'Toole?
Patrick: I'd rather not say.
Priest: Come now, my son. Then it was Mary O'Connor?
Patrick: I told you, father, I can't say.
Priest: Brigid O'Shaugnessy?
Patrick: For the last time, I'd rather not say who it was.
Priest: Well, if you won't come clean, I can't give you absolution. Come back when you're ready to tell me.
Patrick: Well, OK, then see you. (leaves church, Michael is faithfully waiting for him)
Michael: Well then, did you get absolution?
Patrick: No, but I got some great prospects.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Henry on June 23, 2010, 06:51:22 PM
Patrick: Wait here a moment, I want to go to confession.
Michael: Alright.
Patrick: Bless me father.....I committed adultery with a married woman.
Priest: Was it Nancy O'Toole?
Patrick: I'd rather not say.
Priest: Come now, my son. Then it was Mary O'Connor?
Patrick: I told you, father, I can't say.
Priest: Brigid O'Shaugnessy?
Patrick: For the last time, I'd rather not say who it was.
Priest: Well, if you won't come clean, I can't give you absolution. Come back when you're ready to tell me.
Patrick: Well, OK, then see you. (leaves church, Michael is faithfully waiting for him)
Michael: Well then, did you get absolution?
Patrick: No, but I got some great prospects.


Sounds like only Irish women cheat.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 23, 2010, 06:57:34 PM
I have seen prostitutes, gangsters, violent, sociopathic type criminals and other assorted types of people who all considered themselves very good, devout Catholics. I am sure the same is true of the same sort of people and other faiths.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: JimD on June 23, 2010, 07:38:04 PM
My God Robert Angel where do you hang out???
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 23, 2010, 08:24:37 PM
Regarding Brazillian women versus Colombian.

Im being honest here. Although the idea is they are sexy sweet fun... the last part is they (most) have sex with anyone at the drop of a hat.

i have been told all my life.....if you want to party and hook up with unlimited women go to brazil....for a wife go to colombia.

Now that doesnt mean people are considered "bad" like venezuella has a negative view of them as a whole by many cultures.

and of course its not every brazillian girl but probably enough to truly be true even if we dont want to admit it.

just putting forth what i have learned :) may be off a bit im not perfect of course

Can I buy you a ticket too?
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 23, 2010, 08:34:20 PM
Seriously. Where are those girls from? Brazil is a huge country.

At least here in the North I lost the account of how many times I've heard women say they don't like sex. Not so long ago a divorced friend told me the best thing about not being married anymore is that she doesn't have to have sex.

My male friends always tell me that many girls would behave like virgins (meaning playing hard to go to bed) even if they already have three kids.

Of course there are the ones that would trade sex for attention or be very easy to get. But I don't think there is more than in the USA.

Travel to Colombia or interviewing Colombianas is a goal for me now :P
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: whitey on June 23, 2010, 08:44:01 PM
At least here in the North I lost the account of how many times I've heard women say they don't like sex. Not so long ago a divorced friend told me the best thing about not being married anymore is that she doesn't have to have sex.

How sad ... I guess things maybe aren't so different in Brazil than here.  :-(

Do you think it's because they weren't in love anymore or treated well by their husband?  Or are they turned off by sex entirely now and aren't interested in anyone?
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: braziliangirl on June 23, 2010, 09:16:00 PM
How sad ... I guess things maybe aren't so different in Brazil than here.  :-(

Do you think it's because they weren't in love anymore or treated well by their husband?  Or are they turned off by sex entirely now and aren't interested in anyone?

Hey whitey!

In that case she wasn't being treated well by him anymore. But she is divorced for about 4 years now and haven't dated anyone.

I have another friend that is very beautiful and used to date the most handsome guys. Now she is looking for a husband, but always say that she is so relieved she doesn't have to worry about getting pregnant or fake like she liked when she was sexually active.

Another one, very attractive too, had to see a shrink for a long time, paid by her long time boyfriend, so she cold finally feel comfortable to have sex with him. She doesn't turn the light on up to today.

Well, of course those are exceptions. I'm not saying that Brazilians don't like sex. I have many friends that are OK with that as well, but I don't personally know anyone that matches what Henry or vallenatoman are describing.

Maybe I'm just going to the right places. Or maybe it's a big lie. ;)

Peace!
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Henry on June 23, 2010, 10:02:41 PM
hahahaha
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: vallenatoman on June 23, 2010, 11:37:18 PM
Seriously. Where are those girls from? Brazil is a huge country.

At least here in the North I lost the account of how many times I've heard women say they don't like sex. Not so long ago a divorced friend told me the best thing about not being married anymore is that she doesn't have to have sex.

My male friends always tell me that many girls would behave like virgins (meaning playing hard to go to bed) even if they already have three kids.

Of course there are the ones that would trade sex for attention or be very easy to get. But I don't think there is more than in the USA.

Travel to Colombia or interviewing Colombianas is a goal for me now :P

actually to be honest i think they usualy say middle or south and RIO is always mentioned.


Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: robert angel on June 24, 2010, 06:32:37 AM
Re:

My God Robert Angel where do you hang out???


>>I have seen prostitutes, gangsters, violent, sociopathic type criminals and other assorted types of people who all considered themselves very good, devout Catholics. I am sure the same is true of the same sort of people and other faiths.<<

JimD,

A lot of shall we say 'unusual' people I've met or known over the years came from back in the Bronx and surrounding areas of NYC. I lived in the big apartment projects of the Bronx ( Waring Ave.) in my first years growing up, but the real 'characters' were people from the 'old neighborhood' in the Bronx, (around Tremont and Jerome Avenues) which was smaller apartment buildings where everybody knew every body else and my older family members would tell me about certain people. I moved away for a few years, then moved back there when I was 15, finishing up high school and starting college.

I also met all sorts of people when I lived in metro Detroit and to a lesser extent in Chicago, where I wasn't too familiar with 'things'. Also on New Jersey's boardwalk (Jersey Shore) we used to see ALL kinds of things and people-you just needed to be aware, or else you might not know what was 'going down' and going on all around you. Funny thing is now I live in an "Amenity protected community", with pool and tennis and all that homogenized, enriched white bread crap. A buddy of mine is a senior homocide detective here though and he fills me in on what's really behind the stories and pictures of people we see in the news about things, mostly 'down town'.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: AsphaltVoyager on June 24, 2010, 08:00:59 AM
Funny, because I like my women as I like my beer--dark and intoxicating!

Sir, may I recommend the Trappiste Rochefort 10? Dark, most certainly, and intoxicating (11.2% ABV) as well. Or, if you would prefer, perhaps a nice Corsendonk. Both are fine examples of the Trappist monastery breweries' ales in Belgium. The Corsendonk has a finish that will, no joke, remind you of Raisinettes. Both leave very fine lacing on well-made beer goblets. One word of caution, however: if you're into counting calories, these brews are not for you. I prefer to enjoy the brews and then exercise off their added caloric content. They are, in my opinion, head and shoulders above any Pilsener or lager, and... most ales, too, truth be told. Both are usually ranked in the top 100 lists you will see about what beers are the world's best. TR10 is usually in the top 25.
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Georgis on August 18, 2012, 08:50:34 PM



Watch that and you will make your decision!
I think Colombian women are caring and loving wives. I hate when foreign men stereotype them to all be "easy" hoes. Where are you guys hanging out? HA EXACTLY!
Anyway please watch that video! :-)


Catalina Otalvaro
(http://whattheeff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/catalina-otalvaro-5.jpg)


Taliana Vargas
(http://hoffstrizz.typepad.com/.a/6a0128773aba66970c01348523e753970c-pi)
Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: Calipro on August 20, 2012, 10:24:31 AM


Watch that and you will make your decision!
I think Colombian women are caring and loving wives. I hate when foreign men stereotype them to all be "easy" hoes. Where are you guys hanging out? HA EXACTLY!
Anyway please watch that video! :-)


Catalina Otalvaro
(http://whattheeff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/catalina-otalvaro-5.jpg)


Taliana Vargas
(http://hoffstrizz.typepad.com/.a/6a0128773aba66970c01348523e753970c-pi)


So were you born in Pereira? I might be going there in a month or so....any tips on the local hot spots?

Title: Re: Colombian vs Brazil Women
Post by: cltrader on August 27, 2012, 10:06:43 AM
BG, can you email me at owusug@gmail.com, I dont have enough posts to be able to PM you.  Thanks