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« on: November 09, 2020, 11:54:28 AM »
Hey Guys,

I hope everyone is healthy and doing well. Up until now I was under the impression that entry into Colombia from any foreign port required proof of a negative PCR test taken within 96 hours of arrival. I just read that as of Nov. 4th, this requirement has been lifted. Can anyone confirm? I’m arriving Friday and was supposed to take my third test tomorrow morning (I’ll probably do it anyway as my insurance pays for 100% of the cost) but I just wanted to confirm.

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2020, 01:59:54 PM »
Hey Guys,

I hope everyone is healthy and doing well. Up until now I was under the impression that entry into Colombia from any foreign port required proof of a negative PCR test taken within 96 hours of arrival. I just read that as of Nov. 4th, this requirement has been lifted. Can anyone confirm? I’m arriving Friday and was supposed to take my third test tomorrow morning (I’ll probably do it anyway as my insurance pays for 100% of the cost) but I just wanted to confirm.

According to the news here ...no Covid test is required to enter Colombia....but I would check with the airline you are flying...to make sure they will let you on the plane.

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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2020, 05:38:49 PM »
According to the news here ...no Covid test is required to enter Colombia....but I would check with the airline you are flying...to make sure they will let you on the plane.

Thanks Cali,

I finally found some reputable sources online that were saying the same thing. I’ve also heard rumors about Colombia shutting things down again in December. Do you think that’s a possibility.

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2020, 07:54:06 PM »
Thanks Cali,

I finally found some reputable sources online that were saying the same thing. I’ve also heard rumors about Colombia shutting things down again in December. Do you think that’s a possibility.

I don't think there will be another full blow lock down ....but they did have what they call toque de queda here on Halloween weekend along with let seca.....so there wasn't any going out after 10 pm nor were any bars open that weekend.

I could see something like that happy again around Christmas and New Years

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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2020, 12:10:05 PM »
I don't think there will be another full blow lock down ....but they did have what they call toque de queda here on Halloween weekend along with let seca.....so there wasn't any going out after 10 pm nor were any bars open that weekend.

I could see something like that happy again around Christmas and New Years
The people complaining most about lockdowns here in San Diego are the ones who've worsened the spread by refusal to social distancing. Slow learner's...

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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2020, 03:03:53 PM »
The people complaining most about lockdowns here in San Diego are the ones who've worsened the spread by refusal to social distancing. Slow learner's...


It's the real socially active people, a lot under age 30, who've been the 'super spreaders'--and most of them never even knew they were covid positive. Close to where we live, you can see them elbow to elbow outside on the patio bars, dozens of them packed inside and out, no masks for months now.


Meanwhile as the case numbers go up, we see zero tickets being issued for the March 2020 'law' requiring masks be worn given out. 15 million tourists a year, lots of bachelorette parties, etc.-- it's plenty crowded downtown and not a single ticket issued.


We have no enforcement, added upon the sad fact that have no discipline as a people to follow common sense, never mind 'getting behind the science.' We don't really see people acting mindfully for the betterment of anyone but themselves. And the governmental agencies are just as dysfunctional.


I think that the pet gerbils we had as kids were smarter than humans these days, although like human beings, gerbils are one of few mammal species that 'eats it's own.' My wife reads religious stuff and wonders if doom is coming, if this is IT, but I remain forever pessimistically optimistic that we're OK. For a little while yet, anyway....
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2020, 09:58:56 AM »

It's the real socially active people, a lot under age 30, who've been the 'super spreaders'--and most of them never even knew they were covid positive. Close to where we live, you can see them elbow to elbow outside on the patio bars, dozens of them packed inside and out, no masks for months now.


Meanwhile as the case numbers go up, we see zero tickets being issued for the March 2020 'law' requiring masks be worn given out. 15 million tourists a year, lots of bachelorette parties, etc.-- it's plenty crowded downtown and not a single ticket issued.


We have no enforcement, added upon the sad fact that have no discipline as a people to follow common sense, never mind 'getting behind the science.' We don't really see people acting mindfully for the betterment of anyone but themselves. And the governmental agencies are just as dysfunctional.


I think that the pet gerbils we had as kids were smarter than humans these days, although like human beings, gerbils are one of few mammal species that 'eats it's own.' My wife reads religious stuff and wonders if doom is coming, if this is IT, but I remain forever pessimistically optimistic that we're OK. For a little while yet, anyway....
Yep the invincible under 30 crowd are the biggest spreaders. Doesn't help that the Georgia governor isnt socially responsible in his decision making and message on the virus.

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Re: COVID Test Requirements
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2020, 11:37:02 AM »
Hey Guys,

I hope everyone is healthy and doing well. Up until now I was under the impression that entry into Colombia from any foreign port required proof of a negative PCR test taken within 96 hours of arrival. I just read that as of Nov. 4th, this requirement has been lifted. Can anyone confirm? I’m arriving Friday and was supposed to take my third test tomorrow morning (I’ll probably do it anyway as my insurance pays for 100% of the cost) but I just wanted to confirm.


Great to hear about people beginning to be able to travel internationally again. No one with a US visa is allowed into my wife's country. She can enter, as she has dual passports, but even then, she'd have to spend 14 days quarantined in a 'govt facility' before she could see family.


Hell, we wanted to visit Vancouver Canada, but forget about that too--both will likely continue like this for months longer.


Benjio--hope if it's a business trip, that you're able to mix 'business with pleasure!'
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2020, 11:47:01 AM »
Hey Guys,

I hope everyone is healthy and doing well. Up until now I was under the impression that entry into Colombia from any foreign port required proof of a negative PCR test taken within 96 hours of arrival. I just read that as of Nov. 4th, this requirement has been lifted. Can anyone confirm? I’m arriving Friday and was supposed to take my third test tomorrow morning (I’ll probably do it anyway as my insurance pays for 100% of the cost) but I just wanted to confirm.

This is Colombia.They change their mind more than their underwear.

They even had a ban of all non emergency travellers from Canada and Europe that lasted all of 3.days.

The big rumour now, substantiated somewhat by a lawyer I use is you have to show EPS for the last 6 months when renewing your resident visa and have to show your world wide income and pay approximately 2% of your income to EPS.

Another rumour is  they are dropping visa renewal frpm 3 and 5 year visas to 1 year and less to get more $ plata.

Of course all this could change tommorow and no one knows the real situation until they actually go through the process ( which I will in April)

Right now Ecuador is looking attractive to me in the long run.

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2020, 04:01:17 PM »
The people complaining most about lockdowns here in San Diego are the ones who've worsened the spread by refusal to social distancing. Slow learner's...

30 year olds have a better chance of dying in a car accident then Covid....so they probably aren't very concerned about contracting it.

Plenty of people feel they should be able to do what they want regardless and if you are afraid of getting Covid-19...then stay home...and order in.

I think it would take people dying in the streets here ...before the Colombian government would do another complete lock down.

We have been open for a couple months and things still aren't back to normal.

Lots of businesses went under and there isn't as many cars on the road as before the lock down


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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2020, 10:24:03 AM »
30 year olds have a better chance of dying in a car accident then Covid....so they probably aren't very concerned about contracting it.

Plenty of people feel they should be able to do what they want regardless and if you are afraid of getting Covid-19...then stay home...and order in.

I think it would take people dying in the streets here ...before the Colombian government would do another complete lock down.

We have been open for a couple months and things still aren't back to normal.

Lots of businesses went under and there isn't as many cars on the road as before the lock down
Of course they're not concerned but they are killing others...

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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2020, 10:46:22 AM »
Of course they're not concerned but they are killing others...

I worked for the Post Office for 35 years and had this frase drilled into my head over the years

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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2020, 10:51:09 AM »
Of course they're not concerned but they are killing others...

And not everyone "afraid" has the option to ---"then stay home...and order in"
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2020, 11:16:10 AM »
I worked for the Post Office for 35 years and had this frase drilled into my head over the years

Safety depends on me

Speaking of death, risk & mayhem brings to mind the oft used saying:

"Going postal"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal

I guess by now you're pretty good at ducking?  ???
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2020, 01:48:54 PM »
Speaking of death, risk & mayhem brings to mind the oft used saying:

"Going postal"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal

I guess by now you're pretty good at ducking?  ???

I never experienced work place violence at the post office.

In 35 years I only saw one guy punch another guy in the mouth and then he left and never came back. I told the guy that got a bloody lip that the casual help doesn't get paid enough to listen to your [snip]. Jajaja

The 249-page report concludes two years of study and reveals that postal workers are only a third as likely as those in the national work force to be victims of homicide at work (0.26 vs. 0.77 per 100,000 workers annually



https://www.reliasmedia.com/articles/51304-violence-among-postal-workers-is-a-misnomer

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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2020, 02:26:54 PM »
And not everyone "afraid" has the option to ---"then stay home...and order in"

Hazmat suits aren't that expensive....masks just slow down the spread they aren't even close to being good protection....the only masks that will prevent the spread are N95 masks and they generally aren't available to anyone but healthcare workers....but if you can get a hold of them....you don't really have to worry about what anyone else does.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2020, 06:27:20 PM »
And not everyone "afraid" has the option to ---"then stay home...and order in"
"Afraid" haha. Yeah the Facebook tough love to put us mask wearers in that category, Trump following idiots protesting for their "rights"...

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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2020, 11:44:34 PM »
Hazmat suits aren't that expensive....masks just slow down the spread they aren't even close to being good protection....the only masks that will prevent the spread are N95 masks and they generally aren't available to anyone but healthcare workers....but if you can get a hold of them....you don't really have to worry about what anyone else does.
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2020, 09:40:43 AM »

Don't forget to correctly complete your hazmat 'condom cover' suit attire with footwear appropriate for a gentleman 'south of the border'...


https://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shop/chamula-cancun-huarache-sandal?inventoryCountry=US&color=020&size=W%206&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-rj9BRCAARIsANB_4ACbKPBqsABq7zPwfk4ZrCd_PdT5QJkVUScSMK4kb3S-m48GDMvZnTcaAsU-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&type=REGULAR&quantity=1

I just wear an N95 mask which actually protects me from the virus.....the rest of the masks just slow down transmission.... probably by half...from looking at the stats.

If I had health risks I probably wouldn't leave the house because even nurses in hazmat suits sometimes contract the virus ....with every precausion taken.

I pity the fools that are depending on the government or random individuals for their protection

Now that I think about it....working for the Post office may have saved my life.

Remember....safety depends on YOU jajajaj

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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2020, 12:13:23 PM »
This is Colombia.They change their mind more than their underwear.

They even had a ban of all non emergency travellers from Canada and Europe that lasted all of 3.days.

The big rumour now, substantiated somewhat by a lawyer I use is you have to show EPS for the last 6 months when renewing your resident visa and have to show your world wide income and pay approximately 2% of your income to EPS.

Another rumour is  they are dropping visa renewal frpm 3 and 5 year visas to 1 year and less to get more $ plata.

Of course all this could change tommorow and no one knows the real situation until they actually go through the process ( which I will in April)

Right now Ecuador is looking attractive to me in the long run.


What's Ecuador got going for it? Or Uruguay for that matter? I've heard they're a bit more '1st world' than most of Colombia, but I really have no idea.


My wife has been taking Spanish lessons, but unfortunately I don't think that'd help MY flirting game down there, lol--after all, I AM a nature lover--Oh the 'birds!....
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2020, 08:50:31 AM »

What's Ecuador got going for it? Or Uruguay for that matter? I've heard they're a bit more '1st world' than most of Colombia, but I really have no idea.


My wife has been taking Spanish lessons, but unfortunately I don't think that'd help MY flirting game down there, lol--after all, I AM a nature lover--Oh the 'birds!....


More organized..and for me more acess to mountains..plus no talk of taxing expat overseas income or assets.


And for guys on this site..OK to meet women  well


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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2020, 07:28:26 PM »

More organized..and for me more acess to mountains..plus no talk of taxing expat overseas income or assets.


And for guys on this site..OK to meet women  well




Are the women generally lighter complected in Ecuador compared to Colombias'? I am a sucker for golden morenas-- the hot ravens--those at that perfect physical point between 'cute' and 'hot'--- with black hair and eyes, killer in white jeans or a lil black dress. In second place, a choice natural blonde with brown eyes and a good tan has been known to cause me to veer off road.


I guess I'd be concerned that they might look more like frauleins than senoritas.....
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2020, 10:08:15 AM »



Are the women generally lighter complected in Ecuador compared to Colombias'? I am a sucker for golden morenas-- the hot ravens--those at that perfect physical point between 'cute' and 'hot'--- with black hair and eyes, killer in white jeans or a lil black dress. In second place, a choice natural blonde with brown eyes and a good tan has been known to cause me to veer off road.


I guess I'd be concerned that they might look more like frauleins than senoritas.....

Lot of Venezuelans and Colombians  Spanish and mulato Ecuadorians in the bigger cities and in the North

Further South i.e.  Cuenca more Andean indigenous like in Peru

Onmy my experience from 3 weeks there

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« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2020, 10:17:18 AM »
I just wear an N95 mask which actually protects me from the virus.....the rest of the masks just slow down transmission.... probably by half...from looking at the stats.

If I had health risks I probably wouldn't leave the house because even nurses in hazmat suits sometimes contract the virus ....with every precausion taken.

I pity the fools that are depending on the government or random individuals for their protection

Now that I think about it....working for the Post office may have saved my life.

Remember....safety depends on YOU jajajaj

Funny you should post that. Been.looking at this myself.

My friend orders them as well from amazon.Ichecked them.out in detail
Cheap Chinese knock off not NIOSH approved.

NIOSH approved N95s are in short supply and not cheap

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/n95list1.html

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/default.html

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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2020, 04:17:47 PM »
Funny you should post that. Been.looking at this myself.

My friend orders them as well from amazon.Ichecked them.out in detail
Cheap Chinese knock off not NIOSH approved.

NIOSH approved N95s are in short supply and not cheap

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/n95list1.html

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/default.html

The link Calipro posted is for the same ones my friend purchase on Amazon.


The manufacturer is Chende technology Company limited. This is not an approved NIOSH supplier.  Chen Wei safety corporation is an approved vendor.


Given that this is not an aproved vendor and has no NIOSH markings or TC aproval number, I would say it is conterfiet.


Apparently there are NIOSH approved  N95 respirators on Amazon by refutable manufacturers like 3M



Even the ones with all the markings and suposedly from the most trusted and approved manufacture can be conterfeited including labels and markings

https://www.3m.com.co/3M/es_CO/inicio/todos-los-productos-3m/~/3M-9010-Respirador-para-Part%C3%ADculas-N95-de-Doblar-Bajo-Costo-y-Durabilidad-Media/?N=5002385+8711017+3294357692&rt=rud


I have found a supplier inn Manizales who has an approed Manufacturee NITTA S.A:  model 9510.


I will buy a few and investigate, because they still could be counterfeit, even so.
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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2020, 07:01:13 PM »
The link Calipro posted is for the same ones my friend purchase on Amazon.


The manufacturer is Chende technology Company limited. This is not an approved NIOSH supplier.  Chen Wei safety corporation is an approved vendor.


Given that this is not an aproved vendor and has no NIOSH markings or TC aproval number, I would say it is conterfiet.


Apparently there are NIOSH approved  N95 respirators on Amazon by refutable manufacturers like 3M



Even the ones with all the markings and suposedly from the most trusted and approved manufacture can be conterfeited including labels and markings

https://www.3m.com.co/3M/es_CO/inicio/todos-los-productos-3m/~/3M-9010-Respirador-para-Part%C3%ADculas-N95-de-Doblar-Bajo-Costo-y-Durabilidad-Media/?N=5002385+8711017+3294357692&rt=rud


I have found a supplier inn Manizales who has an approed Manufacturee NITTA S.A:  model 9510.


I will buy a few and investigate, because they still could be counterfeit, even so.

There are 328.2 million people in the USA, 12.6 million recorded as covid-19 positive.


So right now, one out of 26 people--(soon to one out of every 25) around me are at least now positive or have had it!


Vaccine or not, it won't be as long before this thing plays itself out anyway.
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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2020, 02:21:03 PM »
There are 328.2 million people in the USA, 12.6 million recorded as covid-19 positive.


So right now, one out of 26 people--(soon to one out of every 25) around me are at least now positive or have had it!


Vaccine or not, it won't be as long before this thing plays itself out anyway.


This number is the case rate. The case rate is substantially lower than the actual infection rate, espescially at the beginning of the epidemic when little testing was undertaken.
 The actual infection rate was 6 to 10 times higher at the beginning of the pademic , and now it is actually double.


Given that COVID IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) has now , based on best available information,  been established to be  in the range of 0.5 to 1% for the population as a whole (as compared to 0.1 to 0.2% for the common Flu), a more accurate estimation of the number of people who have been "infected" to date is to take the number of deaths and mutiply by 100 (lower limit) and 200 (upper limit)


In the case of the US, with 263.000 deaths, a better estimate of the number of people who have been ¡nfected is 26 million to 52 million .


About 15% of the population-max-still a long way to go.

If you are thinking about "Herd Immunity" (which only occurs at 60% max.) another thing to consider is current thinking is that Herd Immunity lasts 6months minimum, although if this plays out like other viruses, the second and third time would have less effect
 https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/estimating-mortality-from-covid-19
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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2020, 05:45:16 PM »

This number is the case rate. The case rate is substantially lower than the actual infection rate, espescially at the beginning of the epidemic when little testing was undertaken.
 The actual infection rate was 6 to 10 times higher at the beginning of the pademic , and now it is actually double.


Given that COVID IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) has now , based on best available information,  been established to be  in the range of 0.5 to 1% for the population as a whole (as compared to 0.1 to 0.2% for the common Flu), a more accurate estimation of the number of people who have been "infected" to date is to take the number of deaths and mutiply by 100 (lower limit) and 200 (upper limit)


In the case of the US, with 263.000 deaths, a better estimate of the number of people who have been ¡nfected is 26 million to 52 million .


About 15% of the population-max-still a long way to go.

If you are thinking about "Herd Immunity" (which only occurs at 60% max.) another thing to consider is current thinking is that Herd Immunity lasts 6months minimum, although if this plays out like other viruses, the second and third time would have less effect
 https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/estimating-mortality-from-covid-19


'Excel'lent info. Even I had a mindset --thinking 25 to 1--"Oh how awful" -- not realizing that JUST includes ONLY those so "inclined" to be tested. Think a minute about the great 'unwashed masses' --the people wandering around, spreading covid-19 positive in the walmarts and bodegas of the real world. We haven't been tested, and there we were in Walmart today, buying stuff to 'hunker down and hole up.    drastically cutting grocery trips down for a couple weeks.


I had a hottie momma just about climb on my body at the grocery last week, asking me "What cologne IS that?--"Mmmm-- I'm from NYC and I KNOW good taste"--a real 'metro amazon woman' she was--- It was in the frozen food aisle, of all places. Usually safe. I told the wench: "Something my wife got for me" as having assumed who was on the other end of the line--said hottie actually tried yakking w/ my wife. If she was THAT hot, guess I'd be feeling pretty sh!tty, this being 7 days later. Funny but too close for covid-19 comfort, LOL.


I think we all need to keep 'extra curricular' activities to a minimum about now, but that woman damn near licked me!


There's a lot of regular people 30s and 40's + age wise who get this, then recover, only to experience symptoms come back off and on--seemingly indefinitely. Chronic.


You're right--it's getting hotter by the day, scary math--new viewpoint. Better to sit this out as much as possible-like we did for weeks back in March (while most did little) as this thing peaks again, Hopefully the world gets one heckuva Christmas present in a vaccine. Just hope the vaccine works in 3rd world conditions too.


There's 292,000 people in our county. For the past five days, we've been holding at 200 dead. NOV. 17 saw 883 hospitalizations, today that's at 888. 10,187 infected cases reported then, VS 10,358 today, but with each day, the total numbers ID's as infected is climbing higher each day.


And as said, that's just the ones we know about for sure. And it's a whole lot worse across most of the USA--including across remote rural states that the 1st wave largely missed.
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« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2020, 06:07:17 PM »

'Excel'lent info. Even I had a mindset --thinking 25 to 1--"Oh how awful" -- not realizing that JUST includes ONLY those so "inclined" to be tested. Think a minute about the great 'unwashed masses' --the people wandering around, spreading covid-19 positive in the walmarts and bodegas of the real world. We haven't been tested, and there we were in Walmart today, buying stuff to 'hunker down and hole up.    drastically cutting grocery trips down for a couple weeks.


I had a hottie momma just about climb on my body at the grocery last week, asking me "What cologne IS that?--"Mmmm-- I'm from NYC and I KNOW good taste"--a real 'metro amazon woman' she was--- It was in the frozen food aisle, of all places. Usually safe. I told the wench: "Something my wife got for me" as having assumed who was on the other end of the line--said hottie actually tried yakking w/ my wife. If she was THAT hot, guess I'd be feeling pretty sh!tty, this being 7 days later. Funny but too close for covid-19 comfort, LOL.


I think we all need to keep 'extra curricular' activities to a minimum about now, but that woman damn near licked me!


There's a lot of regular people 30s and 40's + age wise who get this, then recover, only to experience symptoms come back off and on--seemingly indefinitely. Chronic.


You're right--it's getting hotter by the day, scary math--new viewpoint. Better to sit this out as much as possible-like we did for weeks back in March (while most did little) as this thing peaks again, Hopefully the world gets one heckuva Christmas present in a vaccine. Just hope the vaccine works in 3rd world conditions too.


There's 292,000 people in our county. For the past five days, we've been holding at 200 dead. Oct 17 saw 883 hospitalizations, today that's at 888. 10,187 infected cases reported then, VS 10,358 today, but with each day, the total numbers ID's as infected is climbing higher each day.


And as said, that's just the ones we know about for sure. And it's a whole lot worse across most of the USA--including across remote rural states that the 1st wave largely missed.
the problems with the herd immunity argument are obviously the fatalities but also the lasting, irreversible damage covid is doing to some. Not to mention the fact that other people's access to care for other medical issues is more limited due to strain on limited health resources. This ain't the seasonal flu, no matter what the Orange Man says.

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« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2020, 08:26:28 PM »
A lot of us thought Sweden was onto something good and different-- but the grim reaper has been collecting there too. I bet Fosgate could tell you that it's  bit scary out in the Dakotas about now---been a while since I was thattaway, but probably about the last place I'd expect a pandemic to be raging.
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« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2020, 10:44:45 AM »

'Excel'lent info. Even I had a mindset --thinking 25 to 1--"Oh how awful" -- not realizing that JUST includes ONLY those so "inclined" to be tested. Think a minute about the great 'unwashed masses' --the people wandering around, spreading covid-19 positive in the walmarts and bodegas of the real world. We haven't been tested, and there we were in Walmart today, buying stuff to 'hunker down and hole up.    drastically cutting grocery trips down for a couple weeks.


I had a hottie momma just about climb on my body at the grocery last week, asking me "What cologne IS that?--"Mmmm-- I'm from NYC and I KNOW good taste"--a real 'metro amazon woman' she was--- It was in the frozen food aisle, of all places. Usually safe. I told the wench: "Something my wife got for me" as having assumed who was on the other end of the line--said hottie actually tried yakking w/ my wife. If she was THAT hot, guess I'd be feeling pretty sh!tty, this being 7 days later. Funny but too close for covid-19 comfort, LOL.


I think we all need to keep 'extra curricular' activities to a minimum about now, but that woman damn near licked me!


There's a lot of regular people 30s and 40's + age wise who get this, then recover, only to experience symptoms come back off and on--seemingly indefinitely. Chronic.


You're right--it's getting hotter by the day, scary math--new viewpoint. Better to sit this out as much as possible-like we did for weeks back in March (while most did little) as this thing peaks again, Hopefully the world gets one heckuva Christmas present in a vaccine. Just hope the vaccine works in 3rd world conditions too.


There's 292,000 people in our county. For the past five days, we've been holding at 200 dead. NOV. 17 saw 883 hospitalizations, today that's at 888. 10,187 infected cases reported then, VS 10,358 today, but with each day, the total numbers ID's as infected is climbing higher each day.


And as said, that's just the ones we know about for sure. And it's a whole lot worse across most of the USA--including across remote rural states that the 1st wave largely missed.


"I had a hottie momma just about climb on my body at the grocery last week, asking me "What cologne IS that?--"Mmmm-- I'm from NYC and I KNOW good taste"--a real 'metro amazon woman' she was--- It was in the frozen food aisle, of all places. Usually safe. I told the wench: "Something my wife got for me" as having assumed who was on the other end of the line--said hottie actually tried yakking " my



Good for you.Must be hard being a studly "Chad" with all the hotties salivating over you.


Wish I had that problem , even if it was all in my "head".. But during COVID, I am really glad I am not one of you "Chad" types...I actually am quite offstandish .. a girl was  in the weight  rack I wanted to use in the gym charging her phone and yacking...so I asked her if she wanted to use it,if so , I would go somewhere else. She said "no", I told her , then give me some space so I can  work out  here and charge your phone somewhere else..she gave me a dirty look and said something under her breathe..and I said in English "I dont give a Fock what you think" and started working out


I have  a steady GF. She doesnt go outside and run around   & socialize and follows the rules.


I know guys who import strange woman from all over Colombia  and call them all "girlfriends"


I also know several guys , Colombians and foreigners who have gotten COVID from strange women, including an old f@rt in Medellin who is  in Instensive Care on O2 because he got the virus from his "girlfriend"...
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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2020, 07:29:22 PM »

"I had a hottie momma just about climb on my body at the grocery last week, asking me "What cologne IS that?--"Mmmm-- I'm from NYC and I KNOW good taste"--a real 'metro amazon woman' she was--- It was in the frozen food aisle, of all places. Usually safe. I told the wench: "Something my wife got for me" as having assumed who was on the other end of the line--said hottie actually tried yakking " my



Good for you.Must be hard being a studly "Chad" with all the hotties salivating over you.


Wish I had that problem , even if it was all in my "head".. But during COVID, I am really glad I am not one of you "Chad" types...I actually am quite offstandish .. a girl was  in the weight  rack I wanted to use in the gym charging her phone and yacking...so I asked her if she wanted to use it,if so , I would go somewhere else. She said "no", I told her , then give me some space so I can  work out  here and charge your phone somewhere else..she gave me a dirty look and said something under her breathe..and I said in English "I dont give a Fock what you think" and started working out


I have  a steady GF. She doesnt go outside and run around   & socialize and follows the rules.


I know guys who import strange woman from all over Colombia  and call them all "girlfriends"


I also know several guys , Colombians and foreigners who have gotten COVID from strange women, including an old f@rt in Medellin who is  in Instensive Care on O2 because he got the virus from his "girlfriend"...


I'm glad you're current GF's happy, because for me, I gotta believe "Happy wife equals happy life" and I hope it trickles down to the GF level. Is your gal into following you to Ecuador? With mine I know where the lines are that could destroy it all--which not to cross.  To do so, that'd be 15 years of great times of not just mine--but really "our" life, all tossed up in the air, like popcorn in a flock of birds. Yeah man, love hurts.


As for that "Chad" poppycock--malarky, that manosphere mindset just seems so queer on so many levels. Even if I was left single and broke--as they say "done wrong' by a cheating wife/gf (and I would definitely leave have the 'wicked' exwife, etc), I'd still take my women one at a time, like a puzzle to solve.  Just spit the poison out, try a new drink. Taking each on their merits or as negative energy, the latter to be ignored. Not saying that having ideas--or if you prefer--"philosophies" towards women is bad, but to me painting all women with the same broad stripe is no healthier a mindset than doing it towards black people, armenians or as we all know, to those damned left handed people. It's just wasted energy from curmudgeons --from younger guys acting like crochety old men. Just neuter them of the dead weight between their legs already--seems they're acting like eunuchs anyways--the human race wouldn't thrive if that kinda crap got too far anyhow.


Maybe the genetic pool needs more chlorine...


Anyways, Happy weird Thanksgiving. Here, there and everywhere, I hope we all get something good to eat and appreciate. There's gonna be a few more empty seats than usual this year.
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I just returned to Colombia , no PCR test required.

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« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2022, 06:35:12 PM »
I just returned to Colombia , no PCR test required.

Philippines has loosened up too. Having to get tests 48 hours b4 going, and then coming back, was a hassle. We were ready to schedule testing at 2 diff places 4 the same day, to minimize chances of losing over 5K we are already on the hook for airfare. Have to stay alert because it could change. I recommend looking at longer sit times at airports for connecting flights, as we know people who've  been totally SCREWED,  being told "Sorry, your flight was canceled" -- and they're over booking flights left and right. Insurance isn't a bad idea about now either. I hate spending any extra time or money traveling but it's a total zoo out there. Now we're seeing pilots walking of--leaving people stranded, as they've just about had it with their employers. We're even flying foreign airlines because  domestic  carriers suck so badly.
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« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2022, 02:32:15 PM »
I made a trip to the US in May. The last time I went the EasyFly app was optional. Now it seems to be required.The PCR test 24 hours in advance of departure is loaded into that app. Check Mig is still required coming and going but Colombia now only requires proof of vaccination. That is checked at the airline counter in the US prior to travel to Colombia. In my case the agent asked me if I had it and I said yes briefly waving a paper at him. He didn't read it and just said ok. There was no mention of it at the Migracion kiosks in Cali. 

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I made a trip to the US in May. The last time I went the EasyFly app was optional. Now it seems to be required.The PCR test 24 hours in advance of departure is loaded into that app. Check Mig is still required coming and going but Colombia now only requires proof of vaccination. That is checked at the airline counter in the US prior to travel to Colombia. In my case the agent asked me if I had it and I said yes briefly waving a paper at him. He didn't read it and just said ok. There was no mention of it at the Migracion kiosks in Cali.

As of today the news is you don't need any covid test coming back into USA. Next stops NYC, France, Singapore, Philippines.  I finally get to sleep in the house that bears our name. She 100% bought it from her own earnings and paid in full.  The kids don't even respond to our calls, more and more I wonder what, besides being spoiled materially and medically, keeps me in the states.
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As of today the news is you don't need any covid test coming back into USA. Next stops NYC, France, Singapore, Philippines.  I finally get to sleep in the house that bears our name. She 100% bought it from her own earnings and paid in full.  The kids don't even respond to our calls, more and more I wonder what, besides being spoiled materially and medically, keeps me in the states.
thanks for bringing it up Robert  good info.
sorry your kids are so unresponsive, but  it gives you more the reason to move on. 


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« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2022, 12:31:07 PM »
the problems with the herd immunity argument are obviously the fatalities but also the lasting, irreversible damage covid is doing to some. Not to mention the fact that other people's access to care for other medical issues is more limited due to strain on limited health resources. This ain't the seasonal flu, no matter what the Orange Man says.


Fully vaccinated and now I have had Covid twice....first time I didn't even know i had it until I got tested to fly back to the USA....the last time I couldn't taste anything for a month and had to use an inhaler to get rid of the chest congestion. I was sick for almost 2 weeks.


The problem with herd immunity (once an argument for everyone getting vaccinated) is that knew virus strains keep popping up overseas and making it's way to our shores. So herd immunity will never happen...ever. Just doesn't matter if everyone in the USA is fully vaccinated. Everyone in the world would have to be fully vaccinated for herd immunity to come about.

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Fully vaccinated and now I have had Covid twice....first time I didn't even know i had it until I got tested to fly back to the USA....the last time I couldn't taste anything for a month and had to use an inhaler to get rid of the chest congestion. I was sick for almost 2 weeks.


The problem with herd immunity (once an argument for everyone getting vaccinated) is that knew virus strains keep popping up overseas and making it's way to our shores. So herd immunity will never happen...ever. Just doesn't matter if everyone in the USA is fully vaccinated. Everyone in the world would have to be fully vaccinated for herd immunity to come about.

I was vaxxed 3 times and I have it now, but just a mild cold.

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I was vaxxed 3 times and I have it now, but just a mild cold.
Wow, hope you get back to 110% soon. Crazy how we put so much stock in the vaccine being like an end all, only to see people all over, including our family get break throughs. Living on an island helps but we still go into town so maybe we'll all end up with some varient. Wish you, Calpro and don't think he got it, but Fathertime--really all the old crew here, all the best.

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Wow, hope you get back to 110% soon. Crazy how we put so much stock in the vaccine being like an end all, only to see people all over, including our family get break throughs. Living on an island helps but we still go into town so maybe we'll all end up with some varient. Wish you, Calpro and don't think he got it, but Fathertime--really all the old crew here, all the best.

We walked a small part of the island after dinner. We went 4 miles without seeing a soul, catching the sunset and full moon rise. 86 degrees and 85% humidity make Colombias "eternal spring" sound great, but we're holding--actually a hotter jacuzzi awaits!

To be honest with you, that is the least of my problems  now.

Only reason it.is significant is for.reasons of " protocol" and s situation I dont want to get into  it.is.forcing me to.be in isolation.

Medically a non issue. Extremely mild.
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« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2022, 03:06:45 PM »
To be honest with you, that is the least of my problems  now.

Only reason it.is significant is for.reasons of " protocol" and s situation I dont want to get into  it.is.forcing me to.be in isolation.

Medically a non issue. Extremely mild.
+1--hope you survive the bureaucracy. Frickin paperwork. Whatever happened to "Badges!?--I don't NEED no stinking badges!!?"
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