Landed in Barranquilla Pt2: Sick as a Dog

[Stevieboy]

Looking in Mexico if you're a gringo is way easier.And if you're Mexican American the chances of her getting on with the inlaws are much better. In my opinion Colombia and Mexico are about as similar as Wales and the United States. They share a language in common (although even with that there are huge variations), and that's about it.

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There just doesn't seem to be as many Mexican women wanting to marry a gringo as there are in SA. If that were the case, there would be a Jaime's place for that too wouldn't there be? We'd be talking on this site about Mexico instead on Colombia.   

[mambocowboy]

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There just doesn't seem to be as many Mexican women wanting to marry a gringo as there are in SA. If that were the case, there would be a Jaime's place for that too wouldn't there be? We'd be talking on this site about Mexico instead on Colombia.   

Htown says it's easy to find a lady in Mexico. There are sites like amigos.com or Latin Euro that have plenty of Mexicanas on them. I just don't see how you can bring a Colombiana over here and expect her to cook Mexican for you. You marry a Colombiana, you're marrying her culture and her family too...

[Stevieboy]

I just don't see how you can bring a Colombiana over here and expect her to cook Mexican for you. You marry a Colombiana, you're marrying her culture and her family too...

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You make it sound like if she cooks Mexican food, she's turning her back on her culture. Its just food. Does your wife only cook Colombian food for you? To me, it doesn't matter what color or where she's from, if she can cook, she can certainly cook Mexican food, hamburgers, spaghetti, steak, etc etc. You said, "you marry a colombiana, you're marrying her culture and her family too". And?  I'm a very respectful man, but I'm also a MAN, a Mexican/American man. Colombian women know Mexican men are alphas and are head of the household. But they also know nay man is supposed to be alpha and head of the household,  just like Colombian men. Whether from here or from another planet, any woman I marry, will acclimate to my culture. Why do you think men don't want to date American women anymore? Was it to renounce you culture too?   
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I have a hispanic cousin who's parents are devout catholics. He fell in love with an middle eastern girl in college and wanted to marry her, but her father demanded he renounce his religion and practice the muslim religion. They even had a muslim wedding and no catholic symbols or priests were allowed in the building. Everyone in our family think he and his parents are weak fools for letting these people walk all over them.       

[htown]

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There just doesn't seem to be as many Mexican women wanting to marry a gringo as there are in SA. If that were the case, there would be a Jaime's place for that too wouldn't there be? We'd be talking on this site about Mexico instead on Colombia.   

I know for a fact many mexican women would love to marry a gringo.  I spend alot of time down there.  I'm going down to monterrey in a couple of days actually.  I have no idea if there are many mexicanas online trying to hook up with gringos, but I don't get into the online thing too much.  I like to meet people in person.  I guarantee it is very easy for a gringo to make friends in mexico and everybody has a sister, daughter, niece, friend, neighbor they'd like to introduce you to.  The mexican culture is like colombian culture in that it isn't looked down upon for a younger woman to date or marry an older man.




Mc mentioned that mexican culture is different from colombian culture. It can also be said that cultures within colombia are distinct from eachother.  I dont' know if you're discouraged about barranquilla and the costena food and culture, but maybe you'd want to try medellin.  I spent a month down there and I fell in love with the place.  I loved the food and I was eating everything in sight, mainly street food and cheap little restaurants.  The women are beautiful and more light skinned than the costenas, maybe a little easier to bring home to mom.  I know that texas mexicans aren't known for their fondness of caribbean types.


I'm starting to notice that you're mainly looking to meet a woman online.  Why are you so set on the online thing?  Is it that you don't have much time to spend meeting people once you get there?  Are you shy about meeting new people in person?  How did you meet those women when you were in panama?

[Stevieboy]

I'm starting to notice that you're mainly looking to meet a woman online.  Why are you so set on the online thing?  Is it that you don't have much time to spend meeting people once you get there?  Are you shy about meeting new people in person?  How did you meet those women when you were in panama?

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Well duh! Who has the time and money to go back and forth to far places to hang out at public places and spark conversations? That's why I like online first. One of women I met in panama was easy to meet, she was a hooker from the casino.    The other girl I met worked at the grocery store serving liquor samples.
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I didn't dislike Barranquilla, just the food is not my flavor. Maybe next time there'll be better places to eat. I got sick, no big deal, I'll be more careful next time. I'm very glad I went and look forward to doing it again.   

[mambocowboy]

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You make it sound like if she cooks Mexican food, she's turning her back on her culture. Its just food. Does your wife only cook Colombian food for you? To me, it doesn't matter what color or where she's from, if she can cook, she can certainly cook Mexican food, hamburgers, spaghetti, steak, etc etc. You said, "you marry a colombiana, you're marrying her culture and her family too". And?  I'm a very respectful man, but I'm also a MAN, a Mexican/American man. Colombian women know Mexican men are alphas and are head of the household. But they also know nay man is supposed to be alpha and head of the household,  just like Colombian men. Whether from here or from another planet, any woman I marry, will acclimate to my culture. Why do you think men don't want to date American women anymore? Was it to renounce you culture too?   
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I have a hispanic cousin who's parents are devout catholics. He fell in love with an middle eastern girl in college and wanted to marry her, but her father demanded he renounce his religion and practice the muslim religion. They even had a muslim wedding and no catholic symbols or priests were allowed in the building. Everyone in our family think he and his parents are weak fools for letting these people walk all over them.     

My wife cooks all Colombian food for me and she does it well. I don't like Mexican food so I don't ask her to cook that. If I want good Italian food we'll go out for that... If you're only going to visit one woman, you should meet her family after a couple days. She should be cooking for you and you should be looking closely at her family since she's likely to end up a lot like her mom. Also, hopefully she has a good relationship with her dad since that'll color her relationships with men in general...I'd recommend staying in a modest hotel like Barahona or Majestic,  so she doesn't feel like you're trying to impress her with your money. As much as possible, stay away from demonstrating your wealth (expensive hotels and restaurants)as that weeds out the gold diggers... Alternatively, if you want to do the agency thing you probably wouldn't meet her family until you're visiting just one woman exclusively..This website is free and filled with great trip reports in the archives with plenty of guys' trials and tribulations to glean great advice from....

[mambocowboy]

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You said, "you marry a colombiana, you're marrying her culture and her family too". And?  I'm a very respectful man, but I'm also a MAN, a Mexican/American man. Colombian women know Mexican men are alphas and are head of the household. But they also know nay man is supposed to be alpha and head of the household,  just like Colombian men. Whether from here or from another planet, any woman I marry, will acclimate to my culture. Why do you think men don't want to date American women anymore? Was it to renounce you culture too?   
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If a Colombiana wanted a Machista, why would she leave everything behind. If a gringo is going to give her the same attitude and behaviors as a Colombiano, why leave Colombia? Marriage is give and take, no? Obviously, my wife has had to more adjusting to me and my culture and language since she's living here, but I try to adapt to her too. Finally, there's a difference between between being a strong male and being machista. I think that's a pretty important distinction.

[htown]

My wife cooks all Colombian food for me and she does it well. I don't like Mexican food so I don't ask her to cook that. If I want good Italian food we'll go out for that... If you're only going to visit one woman, you should meet her family after a couple days. She should be cooking for you and you should be looking closely at her family since she's likely to end up a lot like her mom. Also, hopefully she has a good relationship with her dad since that'll color her relationships with men in general...I'd recommend staying in a modest hotel like Barahona or Majestic,  so she doesn't feel like you're trying to impress her with your money. As much as possible, stay away from demonstrating your wealth (expensive hotels and restaurants)as that weeds out the gold diggers... Alternatively, if you want to do the agency thing you probably wouldn't meet her family until you're visiting just one woman exclusively..This website is free and filled with great trip reports in the archives with plenty of guys' trials and tribulations to glean great advice from....

Alot of wisdom in this post.


I knew there was a reason I liked you MC!   

[Stevieboy]

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If a Colombiana wanted a Machista, why would she leave everything behind. If a gringo is going to give her the same attitude and behaviors as a Colombiano, why leave Colombia? Marriage is give and take, no? Obviously, my wife has had to more adjusting to me and my culture and language since she's living here, but I try to adapt to her too. Finally, there's a difference between between being a strong male and being machista. I think that's a pretty important distinction.

There it was. I was waiting for the ever so popular and redundant word "machista".  A Colombian woman wants a man who is exclusive to her and treats her well. Don't get confused what I say as being machista. It's obvious a relationship goes both ways, but like I said in my post which I believe you missed the word "alpha". There's only one alpha in the relationship ,and the woman wants the man to be that. She doesn't want a weak gringo. That's also what I hear from many of the girls I talk to there,  ESPECIALLY the one I was with. And BTW, they know I'm Mexican by culture, and they stereotype Mexicans as machista anyway, but I'm also a gringo which is a plus according to them and actually according to you if I remember correctly. They also love Mexican music.  If you think being the leader in the relationship is "machista", that's up to you MC. Your culture might be different than mine, but what is common is that we here are looking for traditional women, what else would you expect? And in my family, the man is the man and the woman is the woman, even though mom calls the shots.    If the girl is religious, that's what she'll expect. Don't assume that because I speak as a MAN that I'm machista. Nor should you. This is a man's site isn't it? We're here like men talking aren't we? The whole "meeting the family and especially getting respect from the father" is nothing new, it's tradition worldwide. I'm a father to a daughter as well.     
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Something occurred to me by your statement. Some of the guys here are married to Colombians/ Latin Americanas. I've noticed that some of the guys that post here that are married, speak politically correct, which leads me to believe that their wives are also reading the threads. Might I be correct? Show of hands...     

[mambocowboy]

There it was. I was waiting for the ever so popular and redundant word "machista".  A Colombian woman wants a man who is exclusive to her and treats her well. Don't get confused what I say as being machista. It's obvious a relationship goes both ways, but like I said in my post which I believe you missed the word "alpha". There's only one alpha in the relationship ,and the woman wants the man to be that. She doesn't want a weak gringo. That's also what I hear from many of the girls I talk to there,  ESPECIALLY the one I was with. And BTW, they know I'm Mexican by culture, and they stereotype Mexicans as machista anyway, but I'm also a gringo which is a plus according to them and actually according to you if I remember correctly. They also love Mexican music.  If you think being the leader in the relationship is "machista", that's up to you MC. Your culture might be different than mine, but what is common is that we here are looking for traditional women, what else would you expect? And in my family, the man is the man and the woman is the woman, even though mom calls the shots.    If the girl is religious, that's what she'll expect. Don't assume that because I speak as a MAN that I'm machista. Nor should you. This is a man's site isn't it? We're here like men talking aren't we? The whole "meeting the family and especially getting respect from the father" is nothing new, it's tradition worldwide. I'm a father to a daughter as well.     
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Something occurred to me by your statement. Some of the guys here are married to Colombians/ Latin Americanas. I've noticed that some of the guys that post here that are married, speak politically correct, which leads me to believe that their wives are also reading the threads. Might I be correct? Show of hands...     

my wife doesn't read the threads. Her English isn't good enough to do that yet even if she wanted to. She gets annoyed with me spending so much time on here and she'd rather I bang her brains out instead, but anyways....Just know if you bring a Colombiana here, she probably won't be able to drive and she'll probably need to go to English classes, medical appointments, hair appointments, shop for groceries, etc. You will likely be the one driving her to those, so it won't be all about pleasing you all the time. It's been said before but bringing a foreign bride here is actually harder in some ways because you are the one helping your wife adapt...As for a woman not introducing you to her family, if she doesn't do it it's probably because she has doubts about her feelings towards you. Most women we meet online on LAC or ColCupid have experience with men visiting them from other countries. You are in competition with these men who are offering to bring her to a country where she won't have to learn a new language and won't have to deal with the VISA stuff the guys from English speaking countries do.

[V_Man]

my wife doesn't read the threads. Her English isn't good enough to do that yet even if she wanted to. She gets annoyed with me spending so much time on here and she'd rather I bang her brains out instead, but anyways....Just know if you bring a Colombiana here, she probably won't be able to drive and she'll probably need to go to English classes, medical appointments, hair appointments, shop for groceries, etc. You will likely be the one driving her to those, so it won't be all about pleasing you all the time. It's been said before but bringing a foreign bride here is actually harder in some ways because you are the one helping your wife adapt...As for a woman not introducing you to her family, if she doesn't do it it's probably because she has doubts about her feelings towards you. Most women we meet online on LAC or ColCupid have experience with men visiting them from other countries. You are in competition with these men who are offering to bring her to a country where she won't have to learn a new language and won't have to deal with the VISA stuff the guys from English speaking countries do.

I can so relate to this.
The lurkers on here should read this twice because MC is telling it exactly how it is.

[V_Man]

I do NOT have a strong stomach but I only ever have mild problems in Colombia.

I always take drinking water precautions on the coast. I often forget to ask for no ice in my drinks, and so once the drink arrives I ask them to take the ice out.


In Cali I stick to boiled or bottled water for the first few days and after that I don't worry.


In Bogota I don't worry about the water.


I have got travellers squirts from Crapes and Waffels in Bogota. This place is normally considered safe. So I think one has to expect a small problem at some stage.


I have only ever had minor problems which I see as just a fact of live when travelling to anywhere in SA.


I didn't have a problem the last time I spent a week in Bogota but I did get a mild flu.

[whitey]

Every sentence in Mambocowboy's last several posts is "oro puro" ... pure gold.  Lurkers and anyone not yet married to a colombiana ... read carefully ... this is great advice ...

[Micky]

MC -

I can't imagine taking one of these Colombianas out of their home.  The guys that do,  have a lot of work ahead of them.

Actually just wanted to say good posts - instead of the pissing contests -  You put down some VERY good 'food for thought'  for those wanting to travel that road.  Super Props 2 U !!!!


Micky

[Stevieboy]

my wife doesn't read the threads. Her English isn't good enough to do that yet even if she wanted to. She gets annoyed with me spending so much time on here and she'd rather I bang her brains out instead, but anyways....Just know if you bring a Colombiana here, she probably won't be able to drive and she'll probably need to go to English classes, medical appointments, hair appointments, shop for groceries, etc. You will likely be the one driving her to those, so it won't be all about pleasing you all the time. It's been said before but bringing a foreign bride here is actually harder in some ways because you are the one helping your wife adapt...As for a woman not introducing you to her family, if she doesn't do it it's probably because she has doubts about her feelings towards you. Most women we meet online on LAC or ColCupid have experience with men visiting them from other countries. You are in competition with these men who are offering to bring her to a country where she won't have to learn a new language and won't have to deal with the VISA stuff the guys from English speaking countries do.

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Your'e a good man MC. Don't get me wrong.  I understand what you mean about bringing a woman to a strange place culture and language. I might take it a bit more lightly because most of my family went thru that, and acclimated. Maybe  im also not too worried if she learns engilsh because I speak Spanish anyway, and have been used to speaking to family members who never bothered to learn English themselves. While I was writing these posts, I would tell Monica what I was saying when I was at the hotel. I actually have a real soft heart, I miss her still , and am having a hard time trying to forget about monicas face at the door when i left the airport.

[mambocowboy]

StevieBoy, I give you a ton of credit for taking the leap and going to visit BAQ and just one woman. I'm just trying to shed some light on what some of the challenges are after a guy brings her here. In the big scheme of things, all these little daily challenges bring my wife and I closer. Trust me, the last thing I want is to have a controlling, cold hearted wife like plenty of gringos have with gringas. I do think some guys focus too much on the looks part with the Colombianas. Even though my wife is the best looking woman I've ever had on my arm on a consistent basis, there were other Colombianas I could have pursued who were more stunning. And she sure is better looking than any gringa who would marry my 42 year old ass. On the other hand, my wife is a good person and just as importantly , a happy person. Given that I've now made a life long commitment to her, those personality characteristics have really come to the forefront. Even when she's old and wrinkled, her great personality will still be there...

[Stevieboy]

StevieBoy, I give you a ton of credit for taking the leap and going to visit BAQ and just one woman. I'm just trying to shed some light on what some of the challenges are after a guy brings her here. In the big scheme of things, all these little daily challenges bring my wife and I closer. Trust me, the last thing I want is to have a controlling, cold hearted wife like plenty of gringos have with gringas. I do think some guys focus too much on the looks part with the Colombianas. Even though my wife is the best looking woman I've ever had on my arm on a consistent basis, there were other Colombianas I could have pursued who were more stunning. And she sure is better looking than any gringa who would marry my 42 year old ass. On the other hand, my wife is a good person and just as importantly , a happy person. Given that I've now made a life long commitment to her, those personality characteristics have really come to the forefront. Even when she's old and wrinkled, her great personality will still be there...

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I'm 42 as well. I was on the phone recently breaking the news to Monica that I wasn't in love with her as she was with me. She was very sad, yet was thankful that we spent time together, and that I "treated her with love and kindness". I feel bad, and almost don't want to date like that again because of that emotional factor. I miss her terribly, and hadn't felt like that for a woman in so many years. I care too much for her, though,  to lead her on and keep her guessing that I might come around and change my mind some day. Marriage is a lifelong commitment, and the woman deserves a man who doesn't have doubts. I had doubts. I'm glad to hear you and your wife are doing great. It gives hope to me and others who read here that "she's" out there waiting for us. We just need to be patient. If only time stood still...     

[mambocowboy]

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I'm 42 as well. I was on the phone recently breaking the news to Monica that I wasn't in love with her as she was with me. She was very sad, yet was thankful that we spent time together, and that I "treated her with love and kindness". I feel bad, and almost don't want to date like that again because of that emotional factor. I miss her terribly, and hadn't felt like that for a woman in so many years. I care too much for her, though,  to lead her on and keep her guessing that I might come around and change my mind some day. Marriage is a lifelong commitment, and the woman deserves a man who doesn't have doubts. I had doubts. I'm glad to hear you and your wife are doing great. It gives hope to me and others who read here that "she's" out there waiting for us. We just need to be patient. If only time stood still...     

telling her the truth is much better than leading her on in my opinion. My wife has girlfriends in Barranquilla who are led on by gringos, Mexicanos, you name it. These guys are busy planting their seeds all over Colombia (Cali, Medellin, Bogota), tell these women they love them, screw them without condoms, then disappear and aren't heard from again.My wife tries to give them realistic advice but they don't listen and end up getting hurt...The good news for you is there're still plenty of good women out there. And the fact your family members speak Spanish should be a plus for you if you do bring a Colombiana over here...

[Stevieboy]

telling her the truth is much better than leading her on in my opinion. My wife has girlfriends in Barranquilla who are led on by gringos, Mexicanos, you name it. These guys are busy planting their seeds all over Colombia (Cali, Medellin, Bogota), tell these women they love them, screw them without condoms, then disappear and aren't heard from again.My wife tries to give them realistic advice but they don't listen and end up getting hurt...The good news for you is there're still plenty of good women out there. And the fact your family members speak Spanish should be a plus for you if you do bring a Colombiana over here...

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Your wife has single girlfriends??? Hint hint...

[TheLoveMachine]

Stevie,


I give you a lot of credit for getting on a plane and going down there, but like others,  I would also say Jamie's place is probably your best bet.  That way you can send him a list of the women you would potentially like to meet and you will also be meeting a greater number of women at a time, which will in turn, increase your chances of possibly meeting your future novia/esposa!!  A week or two of meeting Colombian women sounds like a pretty good deal if you ask me...       Hopefully someday soon, I'll be able to jump on a plane and make a trip!!

[Stevieboy]

Stevie,


I give you a lot of credit for getting on a plane and going down there, but like others,  I would also say Jamie's place is probably your best bet.  That way you can send him a list of the women you would potentially like to meet and you will also be meeting a greater number of women at a time, which will in turn, increase your chances of possibly meeting your future novia/esposa!!  A week or two of meeting Colombian women sounds like a pretty good deal if you ask me...       Hopefully someday soon, I'll be able to jump on a plane and make a trip!!

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Yeah, I think I would have definitely had better odds with Jaime's, however my budget wouldn't allow it. It is however my next goal for sure.

[bcc_1_2]

There are plenty of Mexicans with a major gringo fetish for sure. I would not do Northern Mexico. I would not do the beach. I think a lot of gringos retire in guadalajara but that seems a bit warm for me.
Mexico City and Puebla I can confirm are good places to chica hunt. Mexico City is just excellent. I loved that place. The weather is great. Queretaro would be interesting I believe but I have never been. I can suggest from the info I have that it is a safer city like Puebla and DF. DF is going to be way safer than northern Mexico and it is pratically the biggest city on the planet. You can find anything there. Dark aztec chicks... to mixed chicas... like half colombian/half mexican... to really light skinned chicas. for the most part they are not tall.  think 5'0 to 5'7. if you want the 5'10 girls you won't be happy.
But where you search makes a difference. For me I would have been looking at young professional (educated) women in their 20s. I suppose DF can be like two different planets. Chica hunting in Condesa and Polanco is so much different than the lower barrios.
For someone like me it was perfect. Chicas without problems getting in the way... they are just out for a good time on a friday night and looking to party. I had one girl tell me she was only into gringos.
But that being said you don't see most of the men that populate boards like this going to these neighborhoods in DF... and then coming online and bragging out it. There are no agencies to hold your hand... and while it benefits me that these women are educated and speak english... that also means they have options. A young well dressed decent looking gringo can have a blast... but the stereotypical agency guy would have a trainwreck trip.

[htown]

There are plenty of Mexicans with a major gringo fetish for sure. I would not do Northern Mexico. I would not do the beach. I think a lot of gringos retire in guadalajara but that seems a bit warm for me.
Mexico City and Puebla I can confirm are good places to chica hunt. Mexico City is just excellent. I loved that place. The weather is great. Queretaro would be interesting I believe but I have never been. I can suggest from the info I have that it is a safer city like Puebla and DF. DF is going to be way safer than northern Mexico and it is pratically the biggest city on the planet. You can find anything there. Dark aztec chicks... to mixed chicas... like half colombian/half mexican... to really light skinned chicas. for the most part they are not tall.  think 5'0 to 5'7. if you want the 5'10 girls you won't be happy.
But where you search makes a difference. For me I would have been looking at young professional (educated) women in their 20s. I suppose DF can be like two different planets. Chica hunting in Condesa and Polanco is so much different than the lower barrios.
For someone like me it was perfect. Chicas without problems getting in the way... they are just out for a good time on a friday night and looking to party. I had one girl tell me she was only into gringos.
But that being said you don't see most of the men that populate boards like this going to these neighborhoods in DF... and then coming online and bragging out it. There are no agencies to hold your hand... and while it benefits me that these women are educated and speak english... that also means they have options. A young well dressed decent looking gringo can have a blast... but the stereotypical agency guy would have a trainwreck trip.

Don't sleep on Monterrey.  Alot of beautiful fresa college chicks who are alot of fun.  Ten years ago monterrey was the safest city in mexico and it's finally starting to get back to that status.  Not near as much crime as 2 or 3 years ago.

[Stevieboy]

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[robert angel]

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Good point