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Title: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on April 26, 2018, 10:33:36 PM
Time for me to get moving again. Going to give Colombia another try and I plan to be there in June or July. I am pretty set on going to Cali given that I really like the Calena look as well as Salsa music.

The cities I've been to before: Barranquilla, Cali, Cartagena and Medellin.

Before I purchase my plane ticket I am debating if I should try Bogota (never been there). I am just guessing that as a huge, dense city it might be the best city in Colombia for bumping into and/or meeting women in public...? 

Yeah, I know this isn't exactly the best strategy. I will use all methods at my disposal: online, etc.

Not a fan of Bogota's colder/cloudier climate but IF there is a material difference in the number of opportunities for meeting ladies in public places: public plazas, malls, public transit, bars/restaurants, etc. I might give it a shot.

From my one time in Cali I recall that it was decent for meeting ladies in public. I did actually meet a Calena at a sidewalk cafe and we went on four dates in a week.

This blogger published a dating guide on several Colombian cities. Here is his ranking of Bogota and Cali. Yes, totally subjective and even he admits his rating of Cali is based only on five days in the city!

BOGOTA:
Attractiveness of local women: 3.5 / 5
Receptiveness to Daygame approach: 3.75 / 5
Receptiveness to Nightgame approach: 3.75 / 5
Logistics: 3 / 5 Cost: 3.5 / 5
English Levels: 2.5 / 5

CALI:
Attractiveness of local women: 3.5/5
Receptiveness to Daygame approach: 4/5
Receptiveness to Nightgame approach: 2/5
Logistics: 3.5/5 Cost: 4/5
English Levels: 2/5

This is the link to his guide on Cali. If you follow the page down to the "women" section you will see the physical type of women I like (see the girl in the middle and on the left). I am no Superman but when I see a lady like that it is like Kryptonite to me. LOL.  

https://www.themasculinetraveler.com/women-cali-colombia/ (https://www.themasculinetraveler.com/women-cali-colombia/)




 


 


 
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on April 27, 2018, 07:51:14 AM
Time for me to get moving again. Going to give Colombia another try and I plan to be there in June or July. I am pretty set on going to Cali given that I really like the Calena look as well as Salsa music.

The cities I've been to before: Barranquilla, Cali, Cartagena and Medellin.

Before I purchase my plane ticket I am debating if I should try Bogota (never been there). I am just guessing that as a huge, dense city it might be the best city in Colombia for bumping into and/or meeting women in public...? 

Yeah, I know this isn't exactly the best strategy. I will use all methods at my disposal: online, etc.

Not a fan of Bogota's colder/cloudier climate but IF there is a material difference in the number of opportunities for meeting ladies in public places: public plazas, malls, public transit, bars/restaurants, etc. I might give it a shot.

From my one time in Cali I recall that it was decent for meeting ladies in public. I did actually meet a Calena at a sidewalk cafe and we went on four dates in a week.

This blogger published a dating guide on several Colombian cities. Here is his ranking of Bogota and Cali. Yes, totally subjective and even he admits his rating of Cali is based only on five days in the city!

BOGOTA:
Attractiveness of local women: 3.5 / 5
Receptiveness to Daygame approach: 3.75 / 5
Receptiveness to Nightgame approach: 3.75 / 5
Logistics: 3 / 5 Cost: 3.5 / 5
English Levels: 2.5 / 5

CALI:
Attractiveness of local women: 3.5/5
Receptiveness to Daygame approach: 4/5
Receptiveness to Nightgame approach: 2/5
Logistics: 3.5/5 Cost: 4/5
English Levels: 2/5

This is the link to his guide on Cali. If you follow the page down to the "women" section you will see the physical type of women I like (see the girl in the middle and on the left). I am no Superman but when I see a lady like that it is like Kryptonite to me. LOL.  

https://www.themasculinetraveler.com/women-cali-colombia/ (https://www.themasculinetraveler.com/women-cali-colombia/)

Hector, this is an interesting perspective. Let me dish you some advice from my friend on the now defunct "Colombiahelp.com" website. Spend a few bucks and join Colombia Cupid. Provide some recent pictures etc. Try to make contact with women on there that appeal to you and let them know that you will be there. If stuff falls through, find another. Use it as a source of contact or meet one to maybe meet one of their friends that you might like. I have had dates with friends I met on CC. Let see if I can post the story via the 'Internet Wayback Machine'.
Read this!
https://web.archive.org/web/20160322154414/http://colombiahelp.com/reserve-date-previous-colombian-cupid-contact/
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: utopiacowboy on April 27, 2018, 08:46:45 AM
The only thing Bogota has going for it are sheer numbers. A ton of people live there and there are women from all over the country. Having said that it has a terrible climate and little to no appeal as a city. In the time I have spent in Bogota I have never seen the knockouts I saw in 24 hours in Mexico City (or an hour in Medellin lol).
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: benjio on April 27, 2018, 09:54:18 AM
The only thing Bogota has going for it are sheer numbers. A ton of people live there and there are women from all over the country. Having said that it has a terrible climate and little to no appeal as a city. In the time I have spent in Bogota I have never seen the knockouts I saw in 24 hours in Mexico City (or an hour in Medellin lol).


Agreed. They are there though. MAN, ARE THEY THERE!!!


Unfortunately your best bet in Bogota are discos, clubs, bars, etc. Tons of gorgeous women. You just have to break into their cliques. You can't go out alone either. Just makes you look weird. You have to find a group. I've had a very good times and got lucky with a couple of very beautiful women there.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on April 27, 2018, 09:35:08 PM
^^Thanks guys. Appreciate the perspective. I think I'll scrap the Bogota idea and stick to Cali..
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on April 27, 2018, 09:43:24 PM
Hector, this is an interesting perspective. Let me dish you some advice from my friend on the now defunct "Colombiahelp.com" website. Spend a few bucks and join Colombia Cupid. Provide some recent pictures etc. Try to make contact with women on there that appeal to you and let them know that you will be there. If stuff falls through, find another. Use it as a source of contact or meet one to maybe meet one of their friends that you might like. I have had dates with friends I met on CC. Let see if I can post the story via the 'Internet Wayback Machine'.
Read this!
https://web.archive.org/web/20160322154414/http://colombiahelp.com/reserve-date-previous-colombian-cupid-contact/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20160322154414/http://colombiahelp.com/reserve-date-previous-colombian-cupid-contact/)

Thanks for the link...it worked and I read the article. Good suggestion about making friends/contacts on CC which could lead to dates with other woman.

As for this part of the guy's story, "I can’t even begin to count how many times I thought she was a 6 from the profile and upon meeting in person she was a solid 9."

That part sounds like wishful thinking to me. Only happened to me once in 15 or 20 years of meeting women online. More often than not they look worse in person. I do give the guy credit for having an open mind and taking a chance on her.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on April 27, 2018, 10:04:59 PM
ja ja..

comombia cupid full.of single mothers and other losers

the Colombians all.know only the desperate women go.search for gringos on thode sites.

yeah you can find a good one..maybe 1nin a 1000 on those cupido sites
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on April 27, 2018, 10:11:51 PM
Thanks for the link...it worked and I read the article. Good suggestion about making friends/contacts on CC which could lead to dates with other woman.

As for this part of the guy's story, "I can’t even begin to count how many times I thought she was a 6 from the profile and upon meeting in person she was a solid 9."

That part sounds like wishful thinking to me. Only happened to me once in 15 or 20 years of meeting women online. More often than not they look worse in person. I do give the guy credit for having an open mind and taking a chance on her.

you got that right..all the cell.phone cameras have foto shop built in now a days.. So.many times a woman looks gorgeous in the Cupido fotos..meet her in real.life..a real "Sea Hag" as CP would say..

But there is the 1 in a 1000 if you wa uuuna waste the time.




ras have foto shop.b
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on April 28, 2018, 08:07:06 AM
Hector_Lavoe quoted and said:
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As for this part of the guy's story, "I can’t even begin to count how many times I thought she was a 6 from the profile and upon meeting in person she was a solid 9."

That part sounds like wishful thinking to me. Only happened to me once in 15 or 20 years of meeting women online. More often than not they look worse in person. I do give the guy credit for having an open mind and taking a chance on her.
You are probably correct, but this was written in 2011. With the advent of WhatsApp and Skype, you can ally these fears. But also use those connections for a springboard to somebody with a friend. Don't ever look a gifted-horse in the mouth, but likewise, don't overlook any opportunities. Go in with an open mind!


Elexpatriado said:
Quote
comombia cupid full.of single mothers and other losers

the Colombians all.know only the desperate women go.search for gringos on thode sites.

yeah you can find a good one..maybe 1nin a 1000 on those cupido sites
Really Elex? Who in the hell made you the self proclaimed 'Director of Colombianas'? Your negativity does you no good! It seems any woman, (except the one you are currently dating) is a self-proclaimed prepago puta! According to your own documentation that you are quite the world traveler but that all the women are the same. It seems to me that there is only one common denominator in that equation!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on April 28, 2018, 09:44:45 AM
Hector_Lavoe quoted and said:You are probably correct, but this was written in 2011. With the advent of WhatsApp and Skype, you can ally these fears. But also use those connections for a springboard to somebody with a friend. Don't ever look a gifted-horse in the mouth, but likewise, don't overlook any opportunities. Go in with an open mind!


Elexpatriado said:Really Elex? Who in the hell made you the self proclaimed 'Director of Colombianas'? Your negativity does you no good! It seems any woman, (except the one you are currently dating) is a self-proclaimed prepago puta! According to your own documentation that you are quite the world traveler but that all the women are the same. It seems to me that there is only one common denominator in that equation!

the Colombians all know it man...you gotta live here awhile and talk to.people..ln their native language

wake up and smell the coffee...

Maybe 1 in a 1000 is an exageration..but at best 1 in 10

but Cupid sites are NOT the best place to find a good woman..especially in Medellin.

Better to do cold approach with waitresses and women working in stores etc., or better yet...introduction from friends

But I will admit you can realky crank up the numbers with online dating

And yes if you can get frieds on Cuoid or Facebook, they can introduce you to their friends
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on April 28, 2018, 10:00:29 AM
Hector_Lavoe quoted and said:You are probably correct, but this was written in 2011. With the advent of WhatsApp and Skype, you can ally these fears. But also use those connections for a springboard to somebody with a friend. Don't ever look a gifted-horse in the mouth, but likewise, don't overlook any opportunities. Go in with an open mind!


Elexpatriado said:Really Elex? Who in the hell made you the self proclaimed 'Director of Colombianas'? Your negativity does you no good! It seems any woman, (except the one you are currently dating) is a self-proclaimed prepago puta! According to your own documentation that you are quite the world traveler but that all the women are the same. It seems to me that there is only one common denominator in that equation!

Oh, comeon, WildStubby---be fair! Elex knows all too well that things have changed, how even in  Colombia, it's become harder to get laid for the price of a "ham sandwich"---and besides, ham sandwiches aren't available in a lot of places, so there you go, debunked. LOL...
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on April 28, 2018, 10:37:16 AM
I got "special permission" to publish a story about a Gringo who hooked up with a Colombiana from Cupido recently.

A real "classic" story..

A guy on this site knows him.

Guy about 50 years old..did a WOVO..

from Montana...guess he was tired of shaggin sheep

Met the girl on the Cupid site...a 20 yo estrato 1 type..communicated with her with Google translate..she doesnt speak a Word of English..him.not a Word of Spanish.

Came down to Medellin..first thing he does is marry her..

She is a heavy drinker and smoker..Colombian girls who knew her said she is a "perra"... she has an obvious "cara de puta"

The guys family disowned him for marrying her..

Everybody , Colombians and Gringos think hes an idiot..

but he is in "Love"..say they are all "Jealous"..

Think I would prefer "Daisy" the sheep back in the hills of Montana..


https://youtu.be/B94lP-fZyLk
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on April 28, 2018, 10:48:54 AM
That reminds me..

I am sure guys have flew into Medellin from Armenia..I once met a girl on Cupido who met a guy from Kashmir there..

He few all the way to Medellin to spend a week there..

What is the favorite dating animal there?.Camel? Elephant?Sacred Cow?

Imagine who and what you are having second hand sex with
when you date a girl you met on Cupid.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: buencamino3 on April 28, 2018, 11:23:49 AM
There certainly are big negatives associated with the cupido sites but I have dated some I met there who genuinely wanted to get married, or at least move in (unfortunately they weren't what I was looking for). So I would say they're worth a short membership before your trip. Chat some up before you come down but be sure you get in some video face time with them to make sure they're real and sufficiently interested to make the effort. Even if they don't indicate it in their profile you should ask if they have kids as they might come clean on that one in a verbal conversation. I imagine you already have it but if not be sure and download WhatsApp. It is now indispensable in Cali. 
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on April 28, 2018, 01:11:27 PM
There certainly are big negatives associated with the cupido sites but I have dated some I met there who genuinely wanted to get married, or at least move in (unfortunately they weren't what I was looking for). So I would say they're worth a short membership before your trip. Chat some up before you come down but be sure you get in some video face time with them to make sure they're real and sufficiently interested to make the effort. Even if they don't indicate it in their profile you should ask if they have kids as they might come clean on that one in a verbal conversation. I imagine you already have it but if snot be sure and download WhatsApp. It is now indispensable in Cali.

It's all a numbers game. Given you've sorted through that, and having allowed enough TIME, and learned through experience to be objective and get enough information, information that seems to indicate long term compatibilty, in addition to  handling the testostrone/emotionally driven bias inherent in the process, you just 'might' have a chance....

Too many guys see and believe only what they WANT to and ignore other very significant signs.

We see too many guys who after 2 or 3 months chatting, camming some hot babe, go down, spend maybe a couple weeks with her in some resort setting akin in reality to Disney World, and then,  decide to marry her based on that.

Some babe who if she's not 'out of his league' already, once he brings her to the USA, her face (and figure) value is going to increase exponentially. Then, she can't speak good English, can't get a good job here--and if she could, guys might get in line to 'hit on her. But she'll still become a 'material girl' so the guy better be able to cover the spread.

And boys, she WILL come to realize her suddenly elevated desirabiliy status here. Even my wife long ago did, but thankfully, she had (has) her head screwed on very well, with good value system then and still retains that now.

That said, it doesn't stop her from occasionally verbally reminding me, when I've pissed her off royally, that she can 'make her own way'---in fact, her closest friend has a free place for her to stay in toney,  West Palm Beach, along with a better paying job than her current job---just down gold lined A1A, in Boca Raton, FL-- which is no slum either. Amazingly, my wife has never told ANYONE, not her own family, not her two closest friends, anything about "our own, personal marital business."

While we'll never know what the percentage of these, of our marriages that crash and burn within a few year's time--very few of the many 'crash and burn' self victims, come back, tail---errr, 'dick' between their legs, and tell the 'rest of the story'. --but I'd bet it's a disturbingly high percentage.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on April 28, 2018, 01:21:00 PM
It's all a numbers game. Given you've sorted through that, and having allowed enough TIME, and learned through experience to be objective and get enough information, information that seems to indicate long term compatibilty, in addition to  handling the testostrone/emotionally driven bias inherent in the process, you just 'might' have a chance....

Too many guys see and believe only what they WANT to and ignore other very significant signs.

We see too many guys who after 2 or 3 months chatting, camming some hot babe, go down, spend maybe a couple weeks with her in some resort setting akin in reality to Disney World, and then,  decide to marry her based on that.

Some babe who if she's not 'out of his league' already, once he brings her to the USA, her face (and figure) value is going to increase exponentially. Then, she can't speak good English, can't get a good job here--and if she could, guys might get in line to 'hit on her. But she'll still become a 'material girl' so the guy better be able to cover the spread.

And boys, she WILL come to realize her suddenly elevated desirabiliy status here. Even my wife long ago did, but thankfully, she had (has) her head screwed on very well, with good value system then and still retains that now.

That said, it doesn't stop her from occasionally verbally reminding me, when I've pissed her off royally, that she can 'make her own way'---in fact, her closest friend has a free place for her to stay in toney,  West Palm Beach, along with a better paying job than her current job---just down gold lined A1A, in Boca Raton, FL-- which is no slum either. Amazingly, my wife has never told ANYONE, not her own family, not her two closest friends, anything about "our own, personal marital business."

While we'll never know what the percentage of these, of our marriages that crash and burn within a few year's time--very few of the many 'crash and burn' self victims, come back, tail---errr, 'dick' between their legs, and tell the 'rest of the story'. --but I'd bet it's a disturbingly high percentage.

And for those among us who don't have the time, as has been suggested here by several members--just go ahead and sign on with the "pay by the hour" plan!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: benjio on April 28, 2018, 01:24:00 PM
I've met decent women on Cupido while living in Colombia. Few and far between I'll admit, but the scammers tend to shy away from gringos when you communicate with them for the first time and at most you're a 2 hour flight away from them. Sort of makes it hard for them make up stories when you can hop on a plane on any given Friday and be with them the same Friday Night. If things get serious enough I'd even suggest a few surprise visits. You'd be surprised how hard it is to get in touch with a girl after the first phone call telling her you just got to town and you missed her so much you just have to see her right now. I met girls on LatinEuro as well. Probably one of the most beautiful women I'll ever date. Beauty Queen from Neiva. 100% genuine and loved my dirty underwear. Only reason we're not married is because of me and the insecurities I used to have. The insecurities that men develop when they date Colombianas and have unrealistic expectations. I've told the story on here several times. No need to repeat it.


The point is the method that you choose to meet women has absolutely nothing to do with the kind of girl you end up with. That's always your choice! Just don't be stupid....and get down there as fast and as often as possible. Obviously living there increases your chances for success exponentially. But if you can't live there it's still very possible. Most of the women I met while living in Bogota/Barranquilla/Pereira weren't worth my time. A lot of party girls. Some desperate single Moms. Some prepagos that attempted to hide their true intentions with terms of endearment and great sex. But at that point I wasn't only slow to trust any woman I didn't know well. I also simply knew better.


Prepagos and Interesadas should be the least of your concerns. They are easy to spot. Wanna clue? THEY ASK FOR $HIT!!!! Usually not routine or cheap $hit, and usually very soon after meeting you. Maybe online. Maybe even on the first date. They are always rainy day women. Something's always wrong. There's always a problem that can't be solved without you coughing up a few million pesos. The real challenge is the women that never ask for anything. Those that work....are educated...come from good families. Because when you figure out they're not golddigers you automatically assume you may have found a keeper. But then all those other little nuances associated with dating a Colombiana reveal themselves: Insane jealousy, issues with body image (constantly wanting unnecessary plastic surgeries), absolutely no economic sense or any sense of the value of money, a dedication to their families that's bound to cost you tons of money if you're in a committed relationship with her. Allowing others people's opinions to influence the way she thinks. And my all time favorite...rape victims of family members in their youth. Which inherently comes with tons of mental and emotional issues I don't even want to get into. And that last one might sound like a rarity. But if you think so you haven't met enough women in Colombia. I'd go as far as to say it happens more often than not. ESPECIALLY ALONG THE COAST!!!


Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on April 28, 2018, 02:04:14 PM
The best city? A point worth discussion no doubt. But--and I have an admitted bias, in that it's what happened for me--call it fate, fortune or as i'm inclined to say--my own dumb luck'--but she could be in, or raised out in the country side.

My wife was born and raised in a small barangay--a village. Came from a large, close knit family. Both parents college educated. No sexual molestation, but they had an amazingly open mind about sexuality, including accepting gay villagers, those people who decided to be, dress and act as the sex 'opposite' to what they were born with. Jokes,  sexual inuendoes, nudity--things  that'd shock many so called 'conservative' North Americans, bring a healthy chuckle where she comes from.

Well aware of beauty and celebity, (actually they embrace it too much) sure, they'd love to look like Beyonce or Penelope Cruze, etc. But in maybe an odd sort of way--while they know about plastic surgery 'options'--deep inside, they feel it would be an affront to who they really are--namely a reflection of their parents and of the bodies God gave them.

But once she and her siblings were 16 y/o, and deemed able to handle it, they were allowed to go to the big city, to get a college education. Most of them have stayed in the city, working in professional capacties, my wife with Coca Cola as a computer engineer, her baby sister's with Pepsi Cola. A few took their degrees and skills abroad---one's in Dubai, another in Japan,  another is a Merchant Mariner brother,  making great money. He's seen the world repeatedly,  with a lovely wife and two kids back in his home port.

But regardless, the best woman is right where you find her and make a wise decision about.

Sure, it's still a numbers game and you can improve your odds, but it's not so much about the where as it is about the who and what she really is.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on April 28, 2018, 02:30:24 PM
I've met decent women on Cupido while living in Colombia. Few and far between I'll admit, but the scammers tend to shy away from gringos when you communicate with them for the first time and at most you're a 2 hour flight away from them. Sort of makes it hard for them make up stories when you can hop on a plane on any given Friday and be with them the same Friday Night. If things get serious enough I'd even suggest a few surprise visits. You'd be surprised how hard it is to get in touch with a girl after the first phone call telling her you just got to town and you missed her so much you just have to see her right now. I met girls on LatinEuro as well. Probably one of the most beautiful women I'll ever date. Beauty Queen from Neiva. 100% genuine and loved my dirty underwear. Only reason we're not married is because of me and the insecurities I used to have. The insecurities that men develop when they date Colombianas and have unrealistic expectations. I've told the story on here several times. No need to repeat it.


The point is the method that you choose to meet women has absolutely nothing to do with the kind of girl you end up with. That's always your choice! Just don't be stupid....and get down there as fast and as often as possible. Obviously living there increases your chances for success exponentially. But if you can't live there it's still very possible. Most of the women I met while living in Bogota/Barranquilla/Pereira weren't worth my time. A lot of party girls. Some desperate single Moms. Some prepagos that attempted to hide their true intentions with terms of endearment and great sex. But at that point I wasn't only slow to trust any woman I didn't know well. I also simply knew better.


Prepagos and Interesadas should be the least of your concerns. They are easy to spot. Wanna clue? THEY ASK FOR $HIT!!!! Usually not routine or cheap $hit, and usually very soon after meeting you. Maybe online. Maybe even on the first date. They are always rainy day women. Something's always wrong. There's always a problem that can't be solved without you coughing up a few million pesos. The real challenge is the women that never ask for anything. Those that work....are educated...come from good families. Because when you figure out they're not golddigers you automatically assume you may have found a keeper. But then all those other little nuances associated with dating a Colombiana reveal themselves: Insane jealousy, issues with body image (constantly wanting unnecessary plastic surgeries), absolutely no economic sense or any sense of the value of money, a dedication to their families that's bound to cost you tons of money if you're in a committed relationship with her. Allowing others people's opinions to influence the way she thinks. And my all time favorite...rape victims of family members in their youth. Which inherently comes with tons of mental and emotional issues I don't even want to get into. And that last one might sound like a rarity. But if you think so you haven't met enough women in Colombia. I'd go as far as to say it happens more often than not. ESPECIALLY ALONG THE COAST!!!

Bingo! You hit the nail on the head! I don't care what country you are looking at, you are going to find scammers at no end! But you don't know what is going on inside of their heads until you talk them up a little. Personally, I didn't mind if she had a kid. I just didn't want anymore. I have had good luck on Cupid, (without the use of a ham sandwich!). That is why I use it. Whatever site works for you, use it! There are some that were compatible, others weren't but I am still friends with them. The point is women are not just going to flock to you because you sit in the park and put up a sign that says "Gringo Here!----->" Contact them, chat with them (via video) then make a determination whether it is worthwhile to persue
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on April 28, 2018, 02:47:01 PM
And be it in the city, country side, the street, farm  the malls, the clubs---online etc. , as Wayne---"The  Great" Gretsky said :

"You miss 100% of the shots you DON'T take"
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on April 28, 2018, 03:18:51 PM
Robert angel said:
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And be it in the city, country side, the street, farm  the malls, the clubs---online etc. , as Wayne---"The  Great" Gretsky said :

"You miss 100% of the shots you DON'T take"
Verdad! :))
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on April 28, 2018, 04:19:11 PM
Its not the interesadas (gold diggers) or prepagos you have to worry about...yeah ..quite obvious

Its the STEALTH gold diggers and prepagos..

The ones that sneak and slither in..and manilupulate..rather than asking.out right..

The ones who are expert manipulators of men..because they have been doing it their whole life.

The same ones with post.traumatic past due to rape and physical abuse...

with the body image issues and  cosmetic surgery junkies..

The Narcisists...
https://youtu.be/PI9sDusL-sY


I've met decent women on Cupido while living in Colombia. Few and far between I'll admit, but the scammers tend to shy away from gringos when you communicate with them for the first time and at most you're a 2 hour flight away from them. Sort of makes it hard for them make up stories when you can hop on a plane on any given Friday and be with them the same Friday Night. If things get serious enough I'd even suggest a few surprise visits. You'd be surprised how hard it is to get in touch with a girl after the first phone call telling her you just got to town and you missed her so much you just have to see her right now. I met girls on LatinEuro as well. Probably one of the most beautiful women I'll ever date. Beauty Queen from Neiva. 100% genuine and loved my dirty underwear. Only reason we're not married is because of me and the insecurities I used to have. The insecurities that men develop when they date Colombianas and have unrealistic expectations. I've told the story on here several times. No need to repeat it.


The point is the method that you choose to meet women has absolutely nothing to do with the kind of girl you end up with. That's always your choice! Just don't be stupid....and get down there as fast and as often as possible. Obviously living there increases your chances for success exponentially. But if you can't live there it's still very possible. Most of the women I met while living in Bogota/Barranquilla/Pereira weren't worth my time. A lot of party girls. Some desperate single Moms. Some prepagos that attempted to hide their true intentions with terms of endearment and great sex. But at that point I wasn't only slow to trust any woman I didn't know well. I also simply knew better.


Prepagos and Interesadas should be the least of your concerns. They are easy to spot. Wanna clue? THEY ASK FOR $HIT!!!! Usually not routine or cheap $hit, and usually very soon after meeting you. Maybe online. Maybe even on the first date. They are always rainy day women. Something's always wrong. There's always a problem that can't be solved without you coughing up a few million pesos. The real challenge is the women that never ask for anything. Those that work....are educated...come from good families. Because when you figure out they're not golddigers you automatically assume you may have found a keeper. But then all those other little nuances associated with dating a Colombiana reveal themselves: Insane jealousy, issues with body image (constantly wanting unnecessary plastic surgeries), absolutely no economic sense or any sense of the value of money, a dedication to their families that's bound to cost you tons of money if you're in a committed relationship with her. Allowing others people's opinions to influence the way she thinks. And my all time favorite...rape victims of family members in their youth. Which inherently comes with tons of mental and emotional issues I don't even want to get into. And that last one might sound like a rarity. But if you think so you haven't met enough women in Colombia. I'd go as far as to say it happens more often than not. ESPECIALLY ALONG THE COAST!!!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: benjio on April 28, 2018, 06:54:49 PM
Its not the interesadas (gold diggers) or prepagos you have to worry about...yeah ..quite obvious

Its the STEALTH gold diggers and prepagos..

The ones that sneak and slither in..and manilupulate..rather than asking.out right..

The ones who are expert manipulators of men..because they have been doing it their whole life.

The same ones with post.traumatic past due to rape and physical abuse...

with the body image issues and  cosmetic surgery junkies..

The Narcisists...
https://youtu.be/PI9sDusL-sY (https://youtu.be/PI9sDusL-sY)


If you have a policy not to do anything outside of reason for a woman while you're courting her, and until you get to know her VERY well, why would these women be an issue for you? You'll have to give me some personal experiences Elex because I just don't understand. I'm not talking about guys that choose to ignore red flags and are willing to pay for beauty. They make their own beds and lie in them with very attractive women. I don't feel sorry for those guys. As a matter of fact when a guy first starts traveling to Latin America to find a wife I encourage that behavior. Get it out of your system!!! But perhaps the conniving Colombiana mind has evolved since I've left.


While I lived there even the most cunning girls...those that would buy minutes on their cel just to call and tell you "te amo." Those that would #$%& your brains out every night like you were both on a plane hurdling towards the Earth at 500 mph from 35,000 feet. Those that buy you gifts instead of asking for anything (until they finally do). Those that introduce you to their families. Those that study and hardly ever go out (as far as you know). In the end...they all reveal their true motives with one, single request for help. Girls in Colombia either assume or know for a fact you have disposable income. The type of woman you're talking about always eventually makes some small request to test you. Then if you say "yes," some big request to see how far they can take it. If you say no to either and set that precedent, THEY ALL GO APE [snip] CRAZY!!! IT NEVER FAILS!! They never say they understand, or they'll find the money some place else. After all they work they've put into you, they expect a pay off. And when it doesn't happen, they feel as if they've been jipped. They usually start screaming, throwing things. Calling you selfish. Telling you there are dozens of other men that would give them the money. IT NEVER FAILS!!! Every single time that's what happens. I've been through it a dozen times. Then they delete me as a friend on Facebook and block my number. It's almost like they have a check list for this BS. And they always call back after a while. May even be months later. But if you're smart, you'll be with another girl and let her answer the phone. That's what I used to do! LOL!!!! The trick is sticking to your guns. Don't give these girls money until you know it's the real thing, without a doubt. And at that point, you'll be volunteering it. Not fulfilling a request for it.




Now on the other hand. A girl that likes you. One that really likes you...she may get annoyed. She may be disappointed. But she's not going crazy on you because you didn't give her money. In most cases those girls won't even ask. Even if they do find themselves in dire straits they won't even tell you what's going on. Those girls don't want you to think they are the type like Elex is describing. So most of them would rather starve. Again, something I've been through several times in Colombia.


I thought this was common knowledge. Perhaps I should write a book. LMAO!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: benjio on April 28, 2018, 07:06:07 PM
And by the way Elex, the type of woman you're talking about are always working other guys. Even if they're good. They don't answer their phones. Or they're missing for a night or two. It never fails. You have to literally be ignoring every single red flag being thrown at you. These women aren't hard to figure out. I know strippers in the U.S. that juggle men like racquetballs and never miss a beat. The average Colombiana simply doesn't have the critical thinking, organization or planning skills. Their skill is drop dead beauty, which simply makes most men dumb. INCLUDING MYSELF!!!


When my ex girlfriend used to visit me here in the U.S. people couldn't believe she was with me. What made it more unbelievable is her family is filthy rich. But that was my destiny when it comes down to it. Because I stopped giving women money. I just wouldn't do it. The only thing left for me was a chick that didn't need a dime from me!!!!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on April 28, 2018, 07:09:33 PM
@Buencamino: Yes, I am a frequent user of WhatsApp

You can't go out alone either. Just makes you look weird.

I'd be curious to hear what others with experience in Colombia think of going it alone at night in a bar or club, etc. I went out solo on a Sat night in Barranquilla and it wasn't the end of the world. I got a few numbers. Went out the next day with one of the ladies I met.

In an ideal world, I'd roll into the bar or club with a well connected group of people that would make it easy to mingle....but that isn't going to happen.

I do know one Colombiano who lives in Cali. Met him in BQ but he reminds me a bit of a Colombian George Costanza. Jaja. Real nice guy...just not sure he will lead me to a mother load of Colombiana beauties.

Ultimately, daytime is better for approaching women for a lot of reasons but I may not have any better options than trying the bars/clubs in Cali solo.

I could try AirBnB. Maybe the host would connect me to some social/nightlife? Or is it possible to join one of those crazy Chivas Party buses they have in Cali?  I am guessing those are for private parties anyway...not really somethng you can just join as a solo traveler?   
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: mambocowboy on April 28, 2018, 07:29:43 PM

If you have a policy not to do anything outside of reason for a woman while you're courting her, and until you get to know her VERY well, why would these women be an issue for you? You'll have to give me some personal experiences Elex because I just don't understand. I'm not talking about guys that choose to ignore red flags and are willing to pay for beauty. They make their own beds and lie in them with very attractive women. I don't feel sorry for those guys. As a matter of fact when a guy first starts traveling to Latin America to find a wife I encourage that behavior. Get it out of your system!!! But perhaps the conniving Colombiana mind has evolved since I've left.


While I lived there even the most cunning girls...those that would buy minutes on their cel just to call and tell you "te amo." Those that would #$%& your brains out every night like you were both on a plane hurdling towards the Earth at 500 mph from 35,000 feet. Those that buy you gifts instead of asking for anything (until they finally do). Those that introduce you to their families. Those that study and hardly ever go out (as far as you know). In the end...they all reveal their true motives with one, single request for help. Girls in Colombia either assume or know for a fact you have disposable income. The type of woman you're talking about always eventually makes some small request to test you. Then if you say "yes," some big request to see how far they can take it. If you say no to either and set that precedent, THEY ALL GO APE [snip] CRAZY!!! IT NEVER FAILS!! They never say they understand, or they'll find the money some place else. After all they work they've put into you, they expect a pay off. And when it doesn't happen, they feel as if they've been jipped. They usually start screaming, throwing things. Calling you selfish. Telling you there are dozens of other men that would give them the money. IT NEVER FAILS!!! Every single time that's what happens. I've been through it a dozen times. Then they delete me as a friend on Facebook and block my number. It's almost like they have a check list for this BS. And they always call back after a while. May even be months later. But if you're smart, you'll be with another girl and let her answer the phone. That's what I used to do! LOL!!!! The trick is sticking to your guns. Don't give these girls money until you know it's the real thing, without a doubt. And at that point, you'll be volunteering it. Not fulfilling a request for it.




Now on the other hand. A girl that likes you. One that really likes you...she may get annoyed. She may be disappointed. But she's not going crazy on you because you didn't give her money. In most cases those girls won't even ask. Even if they do find themselves in dire straits they won't even tell you what's going on. Those girls don't want you to think they are the type like Elex is describing. So most of them would rather starve. Again, something I've been through several times in Colombia.


I thought this was common knowledge. Perhaps I should write a book. LMAO!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Very true. Although even the ones who really like you will go ape s--- crazy at some point. But the behaviors you describe sound very familiar to me...
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on April 28, 2018, 07:39:03 PM

If you have a policy not to do anything outside of reason for a woman while you're courting her, and until you get to know her VERY well, why would these women be an issue for you? You'll have to give me some personal experiences Elex because I just don't understand. I'm not talking about guys that choose to ignore red flags and are willing to pay for beauty. They make their own beds and lie in them with very attractive women. I don't feel sorry for those guys. As a matter of fact when a guy first starts traveling to Latin America to find a wife I encourage that behavior. Get it out of your system!!! But perhaps the conniving Colombiana mind has evolved since I've left.


While I lived there even the most cunning girls...those that would buy minutes on their cel just to call and tell you "te amo." Those that would #$%& your brains out every night like you were both on a plane hurdling towards the Earth at 500 mph from 35,000 feet. Those that buy you gifts instead of asking for anything (until they finally do). Those that introduce you to their families. Those that study and hardly ever go out (as far as you know). In the end...they all reveal their true motives with one, single request for help. Girls in Colombia either assume or know for a fact you have disposable income. The type of woman you're talking about always eventually makes some small request to test you. Then if you say "yes," some big request to see how far they can take it. If you say no to either and set that precedent, THEY ALL GO APE [snip] CRAZY!!! IT NEVER FAILS!! They never say they understand, or they'll find the money some place else. After all they work they've put into you, they expect a pay off. And when it doesn't happen, they feel as if they've been jipped. They usually start screaming, throwing things. Calling you selfish. Telling you there are dozens of other men that would give them the money. IT NEVER FAILS!!! Every single time that's what happens. I've been through it a dozen times. Then they delete me as a friend on Facebook and block my number. It's almost like they have a check list for this BS. And they always call back after a while. May even be months later. But if you're smart, you'll be with another girl and let her answer the phone. That's what I used to do! LOL!!!! The trick is sticking to your guns. Don't give these girls money until you know it's the real thing, without a doubt. And at that point, you'll be volunteering it. Not fulfilling a request for it.




Now on the other hand. A girl that likes you. One that really likes you...she may get annoyed. She may be disappointed. But she's not going crazy on you because you didn't give her money. In most cases those girls won't even ask. Even if they do find themselves in dire straits they won't even tell you what's going on. Those girls don't want you to think they are the type like Elex is describing. So most of them would rather starve. Again, something I've been through several times in Colombia.


I thought this was common knowledge. Perhaps I should write a book. LMAO!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

When I first began to court my  now wife, that included time she was finishing a five year, University degree for both hardware and software computer engineering. She had siblings in college simultaneously, something which would strain most family's finances.

But her father had over extended himself financially, acquiring more land for their farm--he was always looking for more, for better land.

Then, two years of terrible weather, the leanest of crops and awful prices for the meager crop he could sell, put them close to losing everything. He'd literally 'bet the farm' - - after all, the area had never seen two gawd awful farm years previously. Unheard of.

Delmonte, and some of the other big multinational agri-corporations were knocking on the door of their home, offering a pittance for the land--for everything he'd worked all his adult life to aquire.

She NEVER asked me for a SINGLE peso, not even a vieled hint and I didn't know until AFTER I asked her to marry me, really AFTER we wed, just how bad it was.

She was literally starving, spending money that would've been better spent on a bowl of cheap veggies and rice, to chat at the internet cafe with me, every day, after SCHOOL, during her last year in University, then for the years she worked 12 hours a day, six days a week (seven days the last week--inventory) for Coca Cola, as a Logistical Engineer.

I literally showed her while we'd chat, the big meals I used to prepare for my son's, unaware that she was going hungry.

Boy, did I feel like a stupid, insensitive ass later on.

But sometimes, a persons own quiet sense of pride and self respect prevents them from letting off their plight, never mind begging for a peso or two.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on April 28, 2018, 09:47:46 PM
With all the above stated, as alluded to, still never underestimate a woman's ability to wait a long time before finally springing a financial trap on you.

A woman can have designs on you that you're not even aware of until long after the ink's dry on the marriage certificate. It's amazing how long people can carry on a 'front' - - making themselves out to be someone--something they're really not.

I know a woman who's about 40 years old. She's hot alright - - a real 'looker'. A friend of mine married her, despite me trying to warn him: "James, no, no, no---she's built for speed, she's been married twice, (in Australia last time) now she's leaving a rich old alcoholic she's been shacking up with for you AND she's going to use you for a green card--DON'T--she's out of your league, man!!"

I tried to tell him he had become tunnel blind, and that he was about to be wiped out by an oncoming train, disguised as a woman in a low cut dress, with one helluva a pair of high beams. But no, he just looked down that tunnel and all he could see was pure sunshine.

She conned him til he was blind, with him thinking she was the good, Bible reading, verse quoting, traditional wife. After all, she cooked, she cleaned, was sweet to his Mother. She also F'd his brains out. I bet she could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch and massage granite til it turned to mashed potatoes. Without breaking a nail.

But he didn't even 'get it' even after she moved from their apt. here on the east coast, to California and began coming up with excuse after excuse for not coming back to him.

Now, she--while STILL married to my friend, is about to set her hooks into a wealthy Fortune 200 corporation CEO. She disappeared off of Facebook for a while, but she's back on and as dumb as it sounds, (unlike her) is all about her new boyfriend. A real 'maneater' she is. And this is her third nation that she's pulled this in--marrying a guy and taking him for a ride!

AND no, USCIS ain't doing squat, even with her a playing loose in filing her tax return for a refund in her name. She's gonna 'double down' right here in the land of plenty.

They said they have "bigger problems" to worry about...

And even if a woman DOESN'T have any long range plans to take advantage of you--no alterior motive, no scheme waiting in dormancy to be sprung on you later, she can still change later on.

Some women become overly impressed with money, with material things, especially once they've experienced the 'finer things' they never knew before. It can cause them to change.

Then, some women experienced the 'finer things' growing up and will marry a guy they truly love--a guy who can't provide 'all that' and not until later on does it have a negative effect.

Then, those 'things' that lifestyle, and how well you're able to (or not able to) provide them, can become how she begins to measure YOU as a 'valuable' partner.

Money, or a lack thereof, can create some awful scenarios. "For better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and health" - > those words just don't seem to carry the sense of weight and commitment they once held....

In these increasingly complex times, we're also becoming increasingly wiley people, living disposable lives, all in a throwaway society.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on April 29, 2018, 05:02:35 AM
Very true. Although even the ones who really like you will go ape s--- crazy at some point. But the behaviors you describe sound very familiar to me...

no there arent just 2 extremes. There are the ones in the middle who take it calmly if you put your foot down.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on April 29, 2018, 05:18:25 AM
And by the way Elex, the type of woman you're talking about are always working other guys. Even if they're good. They don't answer their phones. Or they're missing for a night or two. It never fails. You have to literally be ignoring every single red flag being thrown at you. These women aren't hard to figure out. I know strippers in the U.S. that juggle men like racquetballs and never miss a beat. The average Colombiana simply doesn't have the critical thinking, organization or planning skills. Their skill is drop dead beauty, which simply makes most men dumb. INCLUDING MYSELF!!!


When my ex girlfriend used to visit me here in the U.S. people couldn't believe she was with me. What made it more unbelievable is her family is filthy rich. But that was my destiny when it comes down to it. Because I stopped giving women money. I just wouldn't do it. The only thing left for me was a chick that didn't need a dime from me!!!!


may work for you because your under 40..s
and only after much trail and error.

but no way a 25 yo is gonna go out with a guy in his 50s or 60s and not eventually expect some material support.


and there is no way the guy should expect otherwise.

I know short, decrepit 70 year olds with lots of money with 18 yo girl friends who claim they give them nothing

sure they get the poorest girl from a strato 1 barrio and try to be cheap..but there is no way these girls are with this type of guy wo some financial benefit. Its beyond ludicrous to think otherwise.

like the pope claiming he is not catholic.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on April 29, 2018, 05:33:33 AM
www.google.com.co/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2003/mar/02/evolution.genetics

if an old guy can still display health and wealth he may be still considered sttractive

but a poor cheap tacaño old guy..forget it
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: benjio on April 29, 2018, 06:56:09 AM


and only after much trail and error.



I will admit it’s been a learning process for me. And believe me I’ve coughed up my fair share of “support.” But it’s like I keep saying. Guys at 50 should know a woman in her 20’s isn’t going to be interested in him for his looks or great personality. She may eventually really fall in love but men have to be honest and realistic with themselves. Again, all the heartbreak comes from unrealistic expectations. The world simply doesn’t work that way....in Colombia or anywhere else.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on April 29, 2018, 07:32:39 AM
I will admit it’s been a learning process for me. And believe me I’ve coughed up my fair share of “support.” But it’s like I keep saying. Guys at 50 should know a woman in her 20’s isn’t going to be interested in him for his looks or great personality. She may eventually really fall in love but men have to be honest and realistic with themselves. Again, all the heartbreak comes from unrealistic expectations. The world simply doesn’t work that way....in Colombia or anywhere else.

+1
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on April 29, 2018, 09:55:27 AM
We're all in it for something. And it's not just that simple, slippery thing they call 'love' or even  'sex'

We're basically all trying to better our lives. Learn it, live it, love it, or remain a delusional fool, living a life of miserable complaining, with one or multiple women. Forever chasing that elusive butterfly, but attracting and getting stung by wasps.

Your attitude can be like a whoremoanal--ooops, I meant 'hormonal' scent, attracting specific kinds of women, time after time.

Figuring out the balance of who's in it and for what---what each other's priorities are, not only right now---but trying to figure out what it's probably gonna be like down the road---therein lies the rub.

If you can't tend to a woman like keeping up a house, better to stick to rental units.

Most of us here have two balls already. Unfortunately,  neither of them are crystal.

I think I'm gonna quit this site and start writing for Hallmark cards.

Nobody says jacksh!t about my overly long posts anyhow. Does Hallmark have a book division? ;) ::)(
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: mudd on April 29, 2018, 12:43:20 PM
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I think I'm gonna quit this site and start writing for Hallmark cards. Nobody says jacksh!t about my overly long posts anyhow. Does Hallmark have a book division?  (


lol too funny robert
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on April 29, 2018, 01:33:13 PM
We're all in it for something. And it's not just that simple, slippery thing they call 'love' or even  'sex'

We're basically all trying to better our lives. Learn it, live it, love it, or remain a delusional fool, living a life of miserable complaining, with one or multiple women. Forever chasing that elusive butterfly, but attracting and getting stung by wasps.

Yep. There was a time and place I would have disagreed with the above. But you are basically right.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 01, 2018, 11:46:50 AM

 But it’s like I keep saying. Guys at 50 should know a woman in her 20’s isn’t going to be interested in him for his looks or great personality. She may eventually really fall in love but men have to be honest and realistic with themselves. Again, all the heartbreak comes from unrealistic expectations. The world simply doesn’t work that way....in Colombia or anywhere else.



Then they must be into free drinks, dinner, sex and clubbing. jajaja


Shortly before my girlfriend came back on the scene.....I had a 20 something chick (that I had met earlier) come over to my place. Wasn't long before we were in the sack.


Afterward we were talking in bed and I asked her if she wanted to do something. She said "yeah" I want you to fock me again.



I said "OK" I'll try (when you are over 50 you need some recoup time). She said I don't want you to try....I want you to do it. jajaja



A lot of these chicks are just here...there ain't no long term planning going on at all....plenty never make a plan more than a week in advance their whole lives. jajaja


The trouble for a lot of guys is that they are trying to find "the one" when really.... there are millions of women in Colombia that can make you damn happy for a while.


It must be horrible going out with a super hot 10 while looking for focking red flags. jajaja
Or worst yet steering clear of really hot women altogether because they might not make good wives. LOL!



Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: benjio on May 01, 2018, 01:22:56 PM
It must be horrible going out with a super hot 10 while looking for focking red flags. jajaja
Or worst yet steering clear of really hot women altogether because they might not make good wives. LOL!


EXACTLY!!!! I always tell guys down south, "Man...just enjoy yourself!" Look at all this dime piece tail around here!" If what you want is a good woman that will make a great wife back in the states never give up on that goal. But in the mean time have fun. Everything else will fall in place as it should in due time.


Getting pissed at young, beautiful girls for not acting like wife material reminds me of the old scorpion and the frog story.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 01, 2018, 08:05:14 PM
Super hot, exotic women are all too often like expensive, exotic sports cars. They're gonna cost you from the start and the maintainance will be a lot more. They're more prone to break downs than is usually the case with merely mainstream cars or with merely 'very pretty woman' --and the 'exotics' usually don't handle rough roads/times too well.

Being 'built for speed' mechanically or physically typically doesn't bode well for longevity.

And when we're with them, all too often we find it sooo ez  to not dwell upon these factors, ignoring red flags that'd send us running away from a more 'ordinary' looking girl.

Stick around too long, chances of getting burnt are a lot higher.

Part of the game. 
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 02, 2018, 12:36:39 AM
Super hot, exotic women are all too often like expensive, exotic sports cars.


Or you could just settle for the unicorn in my profile photo....I mean the colombian 6 that doesn't care if you are in your 50's and didn't even set me back a ham sandwich. jajaja
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on May 02, 2018, 04:40:44 AM
Calipro said:
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Or you could just settle for the unicorn in my profile photo....I mean the colombian 6 that doesn't care if you are in your 50's and didn't even set me back a ham sandwich. jajaja
Touché'! I like that !!!! :))
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 02, 2018, 07:38:46 AM
Jimmy Soul – If You Wanna Be Happy Lyrics

Billboard Hot 100 #1 hit, May 1963:

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall
As soon as he marries her then she starts
To do the things that will break his heart

But if you make an ugly woman your wife
You'll be happy for the rest of your life
An ugly woman cooks meals on time
And she'll always give you peace of mind

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

Sax solo

Don't let your friends say you have no taste
Go ahead and marry anyway
Though her face is ugly, her eyes don't match
Take it from me, she's a better catch

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 02, 2018, 08:06:48 AM
As I get ready to shift gears in my life, I stopped and did a little 'inventory' of my life, of my liquid and material possessions and the degree to how much other people are dependent on me, etc.

I realize I've come to the point where all the possessions I own - - how they sort of own ME, instead of the other way around. They all need maintainance, insurance, as well as my time and money. They hold me back from just 'hitting the road' for extended periods and my not worrying about staying in communication with a 'home base'.

And so do a few people.

While I do really feel that I have a lovely young wife who dotes over me and I'm fortunate there--I can see how for a lot of people, not getting married, not owning a house, a boat, cars etc., increasingly makes sense.

I don't think I was ever happier than I was in my early twenties  when besides my stereo, I could put everything I owned in two suitcases and hop a train or plane to anywhere. Besides, whenever I broke up with a girlfriend, I had half a dozen other women out there, waiting for my call. It was so easy.

Even now, if I am driving a long distance, rather than fuelling up the big Lexus, wearing down the $1200 Michelin Pilots and piling on miles, it's cheaper, more sensible to rent a newer, nice car and to see what another company's latest cars are like.

I scuttled my boat too. It's just a lot cheaper to rent one a few times a year, or as said, "The best boat is your friend's boat!

Be it property or women, there's a lot to be said for 'pay as you go', without having paper titles and certificates that can complicate your life.

More and more--for me anyway - - the mantra is 'less is MORE'
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 02, 2018, 11:59:59 AM
Jimmy Soul – If You Wanna Be Happy Lyrics

Billboard Hot 100 #1 hit, May 1963:

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall
As soon as he marries her then she starts
To do the things that will break his heart

But if you make an ugly woman your wife
You'll be happy for the rest of your life
An ugly woman cooks meals on time
And she'll always give you peace of mind

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

Sax solo

Don't let your friends say you have no taste
Go ahead and marry anyway
Though her face is ugly, her eyes don't match
Take it from me, she's a better catch

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you


"UGLY" is relative. A 55 yo who drags a "6" Colombiana in her 20s or 30s back to the US where he rates  a"2" with women that age if he.is lucky will find he is the ugly one and she has all the choices
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: mambocowboy on May 02, 2018, 12:21:20 PM
Jimmy Soul – If You Wanna Be Happy Lyrics

Billboard Hot 100 #1 hit, May 1963:

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall
As soon as he marries her then she starts
To do the things that will break his heart

But if you make an ugly woman your wife
You'll be happy for the rest of your life
An ugly woman cooks meals on time
And she'll always give you peace of mind

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

Sax solo

Don't let your friends say you have no taste
Go ahead and marry anyway
Though her face is ugly, her eyes don't match
Take it from me, she's a better catch

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
I have a friend who purposely married a homely woman because he feels pretty women are trouble. Last time we talked, he hadn't had sex with her in 2 years...
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 02, 2018, 01:10:58 PM
I have a friend who purposely married a homely woman because he feels pretty women are trouble. Last time we talked, he hadn't had sex with her in 2 years...

He doesn't have paper bags?  8) ??? ::)
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 02, 2018, 01:29:19 PM
"UGLY" is relative. A 55 yo who drags a "6" Colombiana in her 20s or 30s back to the US where he rates  a"2" with women that age if he.is lucky will find he is the ugly one and she has all the choices

Yes, and I have referenced this phenomenon a number of times, including explaining how a woman's physical appeal exponentially increases once you bring her to the USA, and how a male in his native USA can see HIS physical (and financial) appeal  conversely decrease in his foreign wife's eyes and mind.

The third stanza of the song sort of also alludes to this, in case you didn't read or didn't comprehend it:

"A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall
As soon as he marries her then she starts
To do the things that will break his heart"

Unless you're in a Latino saturated population area, and even then, if you're a white gringo your probably at risk, it's gonna be real easy for a hot looking foreign babe to let her increased visual appeal and status go to her head.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: mambocowboy on May 02, 2018, 04:03:01 PM
Yes, and I have referenced this phenomenon a number of times, including explaining how a woman's physical appeal exponentially increases once you bring her to the USA, and how a male in his native USA can see HIS physical (and financial) appeal  conversely decrease in his foreign wife's eyes and mind.

The third stanza of the song sort of also alludes to this, in case you didn't read or didn't comprehend it:

"A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall
As soon as he marries her then she starts
To do the things that will break his heart"

Unless you're in a Latino saturated population area, and even then, if you're a white gringo your probably at risk, it's gonna be real easy for a hot looking foreign babe to let her increased visual appeal and status go to her head.
Heck yeah. That's also why my confidence is high when i get back from Colombia.  My status is higher there....
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: benjio on May 02, 2018, 04:53:00 PM

Or you could just settle for the unicorn in my profile photo....I mean the colombian 6 that doesn't care if you are in your 50's and didn't even set me back a ham sandwich. jajaja


Waaay more likely to find if you spend as much time in country as CaliPro. Even though my son's mother and I aren't technically together right now I got VERY lucky. I would have never met her, much less landed her if I wasn't living in Rio at the time. I wouldn't even call them unicorns either. Our problem is we go for looks first....period. We'll look past a solid 7 (that's a 9 in the U.S. by the way) with a great personality for a neurotic, spoiled dime piece every single time until we know better. I've done it before.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 02, 2018, 05:07:30 PM

Heck yeah. That's also why my confidence is high when i get back from Colombia.  My status is higher there....

And therein somewhere also lie the reasons why when my wife goes home for several weeks, when she comes back here  it's like a honeymoon all over. Our already great love life, goes beyond great--really all aspects of our interpersonal life together improve. I pretty much get the royal treatment now--breakfast in bed,  manicures, pedicures, my clothes set out freshly ironed each day, lunch ready to go, house all clean and more, but it gets even better!

There's a greater appreciation of too many things to mention, as things taken a bit for granted in the USA after its been years since she's been back home, are vividly realized all over again.

She values her dual citizenship more too.

Yep, even a couple weeks in her impoverished  politically corrupt  environmentally filthy country, where if you're a woman not married by age 25 you're viewed as quite odd, if you're an unmarried woman at age 30, not only are you seen as damaged goods, but also if you are a woman of that age without a good company job already, you sure as hell aren't getting one. Where seeing a woman driving is rare.

And there's no age or sex discrimination laws to help you over there. Mistresses are common, child support for single mothers, never mind alimony for women with OR without children, is basically unheard of.

Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: mambocowboy on May 02, 2018, 06:36:34 PM
And therein somewhere also lie the reasons why when my wife goes home for several weeks, when she comes back here  it's like a honeymoon all over. Our already great love life, goes beyond great--really all aspects of our interpersonal life together improve. I pretty much get the royal treatment now--breakfast in bed,  manicures, pedicures, my clothes set out freshly ironed each day, lunch ready to go, house all clean and more, but it gets even better!

There's a greater appreciation of too many things to mention, as things taken a bit for granted in the USA after its been years since she's been back home, are vividly realized all over again.

She values her dual citizenship more too.

Yep, even a couple weeks in her impoverished  politically corrupt  environmentally filthy country, where if you're a woman not married by age 25 you're viewed as quite odd, if you're an unmarried woman at age 30, not only are you seen as damaged goods, but also if you are a woman of that age without a good company job already, you sure as hell aren't getting one. Where seeing a woman driving is rare.

And there's no age or sex discrimination laws to help you over there. Mistresses are common, child support for single mothers, never mind alimony for women with OR without children, is basically unheard of.
Absolutely.  Our wives know their lives are way better married to a gringo in the US than married to a third world machista...
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 03, 2018, 09:47:23 AM
Absolutely.  Our wives know their lives are way better married to a gringo in the US than married to a third world machista...


Yes: And then there's always the possibility of her coming to think her life in the US could be even BETTER-- if she was only married to a younger, richer, more handsome gringo--THAT's always a possibility.
Why should she have to deal with you--maybe including your ex wife in the background--maybe even your kids from before?

That sh!t gets old really quick for a pretty young thing--I know--been there, been through that.

After all, she knows she can have it sooo much better than that, than being stuck with YOU and your baggage--if she waits for that green card. Then she can pass 'go', collect her $200 and run any game with anyone she wants.

She can play the dating game indefinitely, and it's in her best interest to do so, because as long as she remains a legal, single resident in the USA, she can date as many young bucks and sugar daddies as she wants--AND you have to, by USCIS--by US Govt. law--support her all the while.

If she doesn't have good English, an education--or even with that--if she doesn't have adequate job skills to economically support herself without you--the judge is likely gonna fry you. You--trying to take advantage of that pretty young girl---that YOU brought here--setting up the govt here to have to deal with it. Shame on you. Well, they'll have YOU deal with it alright--by forcing you to pay for her support as long as she's in the USA and single, regardless.

And if she's impossibly beautiful, used to being fawned over--and that being fawned over by others WILL happen here----my wife gets it all the time--about her perfect 'tan', skin, figure, etc--But if your wife doesn't have her head--her loyalties screwed on but good, you may be in for trouble.

If your wife's a beauty queen who frequents hair salons, nail salons, designer label clothes, shoes--expensive designer everything--and has 'lawyered up' friends from her home country to 'coach her'--all --really any of those factors can and probably will bite you in the ass--and of course, that's where your wallet is too.

Be careful what you wish for....



"Well, I've spent a lifetime lookin' for you; singles bars and good time lovers were never true." Playin' a fools game hopin' to win; and tellin' those sweet lies and losin' again.…"  (Johnny Lee--"Looking for Love" >in all the wrong places<))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul-AZA_zVZ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul-AZA_zVZ8)

Bob Seger: Against the Wind:

And the secrets that we shared
The mountains that we moved
Caught like a wildfire out of control
'Til there was nothing left to burn and nothing left to prove
And I remember what she said to me
How she swore that it never would end
I remember how she held me oh-so-tight
Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then

Against the wind....  https://vimeo.com/61207669 (https://vimeo.com/61207669)
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 03, 2018, 10:51:43 AM

Yes: And then there's always the possibility of her coming to think her life in the US could be even BETTER-- if she was only married to a younger, richer, more handsome gringo--THAT's always a possibility.
Why should she have to deal with you--maybe including your ex wife in the background--maybe even your kids from before?

That sh!t gets old really quick for a pretty young thing--I know--been there, been through that.

After all, she knows she can have it sooo much better than that, than being stuck with YOU and your baggage--if she waits for that green card. Then she can pass 'go', collect her $200 and run any game with anyone she wants.

She can play the dating game indefinitely, and it's in her best interest to do so, because as long as she remains a legal, single resident in the USA, she can date as many young bucks and sugar daddies as she wants--AND you have to, by USCIS--by US Govt. law--support her all the while.

If she doesn't have good English, an education--or even with that--if she doesn't have adequate job skills to economically support herself without you--the judge is likely gonna fry you. You--trying to take advantage of that pretty young girl---that YOU brought here--setting up the govt here to have to deal with it. Shame on you. Well, they'll have YOU deal with it alright--by forcing you to pay for her support as long as she's in the USA and single, regardless.

And if she's impossibly beautiful, used to being fawned over--and that being fawned over by others WILL happen here----my wife gets it all the time--about her perfect 'tan', skin, figure, etc--But if your wife doesn't have her head--her loyalties screwed on but good, you may be in for trouble.

If your wife's a beauty queen who frequents hair salons, nail salons, designer label clothes, shoes--expensive designer everything--and has 'lawyered up' friends from her home country to 'coach her'--all --really any of those factors can and probably will bite you in the ass--and of course, that's where your wallet is too.

Be careful what you wish for....


I have never worried much about the factors that could bite me in the ass. If you set up your marriage like you would a business to limit your risk of liability.... then what is there to worry about.


If you live in a State with no alimony the only thing you have to think about is what you obtain in real property and the appreciation of investments during your marriage.


It is very simple..... do not commingle funds and buy your house in your name before you are married. If your wife works make sure she contribute to her own 401k to help offset the money you are putting into yours in case of a divorce.


And last but not least remember that not only community property is divided up in divorce court but also community debt. When I see a divorce coming I always like to go out and buy myself a new car. jajaja


Any lawyer can do the math which helps explain why I have been divorced 4 times and have never seen the inside of a courtroom.


In total I have been married about 10 years of my life and two of my divorces cost be about 300 to 400 hundred bucks in court filing fees. I belong to a legal plan a work and the attorneys fees were covered. The same with the other two....except one I gave saturn sedan with about 106 thousand miles on it.....probably worth about 6 grand and my most costly divorce was  15 million cop that I gave so my ex would sign the divorce papers in Cali. The exchange rate was bad when I had to pay the 15 million so it cost me about 9 grand.


I think I must look at marriage differently than most people....both my parents were married and divorced five times....once to each other so I got a good look at how things roll here in the states at and early age. jajaja


But some how I can't help but feel that I'm some how ahead of the game compared to other people. I liked being married to the women I was married to. And I enjoyed our time together.


And each and every time I found a new hotter younger chick than I had before. None of the women I divorced were as young and or as hot as the day I married them. And I can't help but think that women in their early and mid twenties (that chose to spend some of the best years of their life with a guy in his early to mid forties) put more into the relationship than I ever did. 


I just hate to see guys sitting around fretting about what bad things might happen instead of going out and making something enjoyable happen.


I have had guys ask me if I regret having spent money on women that divorced me. And the answer is "NO".


This is the way I rationalize it. After you put away at least 10 percent of your income into your 401k and pay your bills mortgage etc. you have a certain amount of money left over to live your life and find enjoyment....Some guys travel the world or buy expensive motorcycles or gamble, drink and or do drugs.


Me I like to fock hot women....and when I'm married I like to have a trophy wife. jajaja
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 03, 2018, 12:24:05 PM
You SIGNIFICANTLY do not acknowledge the degree of 'Judicial discretion' that is afforded judges in all fifty US states. I've been fortunate, having top flight attorneys who managed to delay my cases to optimize the time, day AND judge who ultimately rendered judgments. Of course in some instances, appeals are possible. That said, my lawyers always said:

 "You NEVER know what kind of mood the judge is going to be in on any given day"

My pension, my Social Security when I choose to take it, are both legally protected against QDRO. My liquid assets, more vulnerable, but a couple grand tours of the world, a couple new cars and for obvious reasons, I'll burn through most of my visible 'liquid assets" first- - but that'll leave my also not totally protected stock & bond portfolio (which I'll one day be able drip a little off of annually) still up for the wolves to try and carve, should it ever come to that...


I have never worried much about the factors that could bite me in the ass. If you set up your marriage like you would a business to limit your risk of liability.... then what is there to worry about.


If you live in a State with no alimony the only thing you have to think about is what you obtain in real property and the appreciation of investments during your marriage.


It is very simple..... do not commingle funds and buy your house in your name before you are married. If your wife works make sure she contribute to her own 401k to help offset the money you are putting into yours in case of a divorce.


And last but not least remember that not only community property is divided up in divorce court but also community debt. When I see a divorce coming I always like to go out and buy myself a new car. jajaja


Any lawyer can do the math which helps explain why I have been divorced 4 times and have never seen the inside of a courtroom.


In total I have been married about 10 years of my life and two of my divorces cost be about 300 to 400 hundred bucks in court filing fees. I belong to a legal plan a work and the attorneys fees were covered. The same with the other two....except one I gave saturn sedan with about 106 thousand miles on it.....probably worth about 6 grand and my most costly divorce was  15 million cop that I gave so my ex would sign the divorce papers in Cali. The exchange rate was bad when I had to pay the 15 million so it cost me about 9 grand.


I think I must look at marriage differently than most people....both my parents were married and divorced five times....once to each other so I got a good look at how things roll here in the states at and early age. jajaja


But some how I can't help but feel that I'm some how ahead of the game compared to other people. I liked being married to the women I was married to. And I enjoyed our time together.


And each and every time I found a new hotter younger chick than I had before. None of the women I divorced were as young and or as hot as the day I married them. And I can't help but think that women in their early and mid twenties (that chose to spend some of the best years of their life with a guy in his early to mid forties) put more into the relationship than I ever did. 


I just hate to see guys sitting around fretting about what bad things might happen instead of going out and making something enjoyable happen.


I have had guys ask me if I regret having spent money on women that divorced me. And the answer is "NO".


This is the way I rationalize it. After you put away at least 10 percent of your income into your 401k and pay your bills mortgage etc. you have a certain amount of money left over to live your life and find enjoyment....Some guys travel the world or buy expensive motorcycles or gamble, drink and or do drugs.


Me I like to fock hot women....and when I'm married I like to have a trophy wife. jajaja
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 03, 2018, 12:53:02 PM

And while I never presume to know ahead of time how any given judge will interpret the 'letter of the law' I do take some guarded comfort knowing that preemptive precautions for my liquid assets, stocks & bonds  exist for my own benefit.


Also, before I married this 2nd time, my son's roles as hiers to my estate were already clear, my house and it's equity, solely in my name, etc.

That my son's future interests are protected is actually something my wife wants and brings up from time to time as being important to her, because she doesn't want an estate battle some day.

She's also the sole beneciary of my pension if I predecease her. I pay a pretty penny for that financial arrangement, but if we were to divorce, my pension would revert to it's maximum.

It'd be mighty hard to change that, as according to both state and federal law, not only is it written that way, but again, that's because it's not, by the same measures, susceptible to QDRO.

But AGAIN, never assume you know what a judge may decide or what lawyers may attempt. Sh!t happens. And regardless of the USA State, most prenuptial agreements are worthless.

Two lawyers talked me out of having one written up. I persisted, until one of them snapped:, "Alright Robert, if you REALLY want one THAT badly, I'll draft one up and send you the bill, but in our state, it's not only useless, but having one could possibly cause the judge to feel you entered the marriage with bad faith to start with "

quote author=robert angel link=topic=8611.msg135678#msg135678 date=1525371845]
You GREATLY do not acknowledge the degree of 'Judicial discretion:' afforded judges in all fifty US states. I've been fortunate, having top flight attorneys who.managed to delay my cases to optimize the time, day AND judge who ultimately rendered judgements, and of course, in some instances, appeals are possible. That said, my lawyers always said:

 You NEVER know what kind of mood the judge is going to be in on any given day "

MY pension, my Social Security when I choose to take it, are legally protected against QDRO. My liquid assets, more vulnerable, but a couple grand tours of the world, a couple new cars and I'll burn through most of my visible 'liquid assets" - - that'll leave my also not totally protected stock & bond portfolio up for the wolves to try and carve, should it ever come to that...
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Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 03, 2018, 01:37:37 PM

And while I never presume to know ahead of time how any given judge will interpret the 'letter of the law' I do take some guarded comfort knowing that preemptive precautions for my liquid assets, stocks & bonds  exist for my own benefit.


Also, before I married this 2nd time, my son's roles as hiers to my estate were already clear, my house and it's equity, solely in my name, etc.

That my son's future interests are protected is actually something my wife wants and brings up from time to time as being important to her, because she doesn't want an estate battle some day.

She's also the sole beneciary of my pension if I predecease her. I pay a pretty penny for that financial arrangement, but if we were to divorce, my pension would revert to it's maximum.

It'd be mighty hard to change that, as according to both state and federal law, not only is it written that way, but again, that's because it's not, by the same measures, susceptible to QDRO.

But AGAIN, never assume you know what a judge may decide or what lawyers nay attempt. Sh!this happens. And regardless of the USA State, most prenuptial agreements are worthless.

Two lawyers talked me out of having one written up. I persisted, until one of them snapped:, "Alright Robert, if you REALLY want one THAT badly, I'll draft one up and send you the bill, but in our state, it's not only useless, but having one could possibly cause the judge to feel you entered the marriage with bad faith to start with "

quote author=robert angel link=topic=8611.msg135678#msg135678 date=1525371845]
You GREATLY do not acknowledge the degree of 'Judicial discretion:' afforded judges in all fifty US states. I've been fortunate, having top flight attorneys who.managed to delay my cases to optimize the time, day AND judge who ultimately rendered judgements, and of course, in some instances, appeals are possible. That said, my lawyers always said:

 You NEVER know what kind of mood the judge is going to be in on any given day "

MY pension, my Social Security when I choose to take it, are legally protected against QDRO. My liquid assets, more vulnerable, but a couple grand tours of the world, a couple new cars and I'll burn through most of my visible 'liquid assets" - - that'll leave my also not totally protected stock & bond portfolio up for the wolves to try and carve, should it ever come to that...

Thank God Arizona is a no fault divorce state 
You can cheat on your wife and or she can cheat on you and it still won’t  make any difference in Arizona when it comes to a divorce settlement

Judges don’t have much dicretion in the separation of property unless children are involved
 That’s why I have never been taken to court
My first ex went to a lawyer and he told her there is nothing to  be gained that would be worth his legal fees
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 03, 2018, 01:59:53 PM
Thank God Arizona is a no fault divorce state 
You can cheat on your wife and or she can cheat on you and it still won’t  make any difference in Arizona when it comes to a divorce settlement
Judges don’t have much dicretion in the separation of property unless children are involved
 That’s why I have never been taken to court
My first ex went to a lawyer and he told her there is nothing to  be gained that would be worth his legal fees

C. P.---of course the legal system varies hugely overseas from the USA's, and also here, it varies from state to state and county to county, even city vs countryside. Things that wouldn't bat a judge's eye in our county, might elicit a scathing response from some rural judges in outlying counties.

And even the most seemingly even, fair, 'by the book' judges, have and USE:

www.judges.org (http://www.judges.org)

Judicial discretion is the power of the judiciary to make some legal decisions according to their discretion. Under the doctrine of the separation of powers, the ability of judges to exercise discretion is an aspect of judicial independence.

And if you're some reasonably well off older guy and she's some cute lil thing--from the 3rd world, who can hardly speak a word of English, has nothing in the bank--but for some reason you have LOTS-in the bank, plus other assets comparatively--plus she' got that 'deer in the headlights look' AND a green card--as you're both looking way up there, at that sitting judge in his ominous black robe---where do you think that USA judge's sympathies might fall? "


That he's gonna give you a freebie and let the poor, soon to be single girl become a "Ward of the State"?


Maybe he'll issue a stay and research USCIS law--but maybe her lawyer (who YOU'RE probably paying for) has already submitted a brief, outlining the USCIS position in such cases and then, you're not gonna have a good day--not in AZ, CA, GA, NY--not anywhere in the USA, I don't think.

"No fault divorce state"?--ALL FIFTY states offer their own form of "No Fault Divorce"  and could bear that label and all too often, whether it's auto insurance or divorce, the term "No Fault' more accurately should be called "My fault" --they might get something out of both sides, but it tends to be inline--proportionate with, to the size and amount of one of other side's assets--the one with the GREATER amount--it's not a true 50%-50% cut down the line, except in the rarest cases. And typically, even calling it --choosing "no fault" is strictly optional--not that it's always your option.


"No Fault" is more often than not, a "JOKE" and a bad one at that.

In my county, infidelity, having multiple extramarital affairs, has basically no bearing on the outcome of most divorces. I don't think it does in most other areas anymore either.

Hell, as my divorce, which involved custody of two young children. (I got custody for the longest amount of time, in days, overnights AND I turned down HER lawyer's offer of child support) but as it worked it's way through the legal system, I asked my lawyer: "Should I stop dating? - - should I cancel my Valium or other prescriptions?"-- He said:" Absolutely not--nothing there to worry about" and not that it really had bearing on my case, but he added: "Most of the people in the court house have extra marital affairs, are alcoholics and/or have both prescription AND non prescription drug issues and I know them all too well".

Another thing that I remember my lawyer telling me before the day our divorce was to be settled was:

"Everything is looking real good for you Robert--our judge is typically very good, but you never know if a Judge had piss and vinegar for breakfast, is in a real bad mood or is in bad straits with HIS wife"
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 03, 2018, 02:30:53 PM

I have never worried much about the factors that could bite me in the ass. If you set up your marriage like you would a business to limit your risk of liability.... then what is there to worry about.


If you live in a State with no alimony the only thing you have to think about is what you obtain in real property and the appreciation of investments during your marriage.


It is very simple..... do not commingle funds and buy your house in your name before you are married. If your wife works make sure she contribute to her own 401k to help offset the money you are putting into yours in case of a divorce.


And last but not least remember that not only community property is divided up in divorce court but also community debt. When I see a divorce coming I always like to go out and buy myself a new car. jajaja


Any lawyer can do the math which helps explain why I have been divorced 4 times and have never seen the inside of a courtroom.


In total I have been married about 10 years of my life and two of my divorces cost be about 300 to 400 hundred bucks in court filing fees. I belong to a legal plan a work and the attorneys fees were covered. The same with the other two....except one I gave saturn sedan with about 106 thousand miles on it.....probably worth about 6 grand and my most costly divorce was  15 million cop that I gave so my ex would sign the divorce papers in Cali. The exchange rate was bad when I had to pay the 15 million so it cost me about 9 grand.


I think I must look at marriage differently than most people....both my parents were married and divorced five times....once to each other so I got a good look at how things roll here in the states at and early age. jajaja


But some how I can't help but feel that I'm some how ahead of the game compared to other people. I liked being married to the women I was married to. And I enjoyed our time together.


And each and every time I found a new hotter younger chick than I had before. None of the women I divorced were as young and or as hot as the day I married them. And I can't help but think that women in their early and mid twenties (that chose to spend some of the best years of their life with a guy in his early to mid forties) put more into the relationship than I ever did. 


I just hate to see guys sitting around fretting about what bad things might happen instead of going out and making something enjoyable happen.


I have had guys ask me if I regret having spent money on women that divorced me. And the answer is "NO".


This is the way I rationalize it. After you put away at least 10 percent of your income into your 401k and pay your bills mortgage etc. you have a certain amount of money left over to live your life and find enjoyment....Some guys travel the world or buy expensive motorcycles or gamble, drink and or do drugs.


Me I like to fock hot women....and when I'm married I like to have a trophy wife. jajaja

Good for you if you are an emotionless machine and are uneffected emotionally by the end of a relationship and that only looks at things from a materialistic or financial point of view and look at a women ad an object like a Ferrari or Yacht.

Some would call that being a Narcisist.

Still why would anyone wanna drag a woman back to the States or any developed country when you can get married and stay in Colombia and keep your assets overseas and they are 100% safer than any trust or prenuptial? Plus if it doesnt work out , many more in the  waiting.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: mambocowboy on May 03, 2018, 02:55:13 PM
Good for you if you are an emotionless machine and are uneffected emotionally by the end of a relationship and that only looks at things from a materialistic or financial point of view and look at a women ad an object like a Ferrari or Yacht.

Some would call that being a Narcisist.

Still why would anyone wanna drag a woman back to the States or any developed country when you can get married and stay in Colombia and keep your assets overseas and they are 100% safer than any trust or prenuptial? Plus if it doesnt work out , many more in the  waiting.
For younger guys like me for whom living in Colombia wasn't an option, bringing a Colombiana to the States can be worth the risk. Obviously inferior to living there, but financially it's just not feasible for alot of us...
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 03, 2018, 03:46:15 PM
Good for you if you are an emotionless machine and are uneffected emotionally by the end of a relationship

I wouldn’t say I’m uneffected emotionally by the end of a relationship.

I’ve cried plenty when my dogs died.... but that doesn’t mean I’d never get another one .

But to put things into perspective....if I ever had a dog of mine that kept digging under the fence and eventually ran away. Something tells me that I wouldn’t take it that hard.







Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 04, 2018, 06:38:17 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=682417868614300&set=p.682417868614300&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=682417868614300&set=p.682417868614300&type=3&theater)

In her comments...she says...she is going to drink until she forgets your name. More like she is going to drink until she forgets who's banging her. jajaja


With any luck the old bastard with her .....won't remember her name either.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 06, 2018, 06:05:03 PM
Why do Colombianas post pics of themselves on Facebook with their old gringo boyfriends? And why do so many colombianos like the pic?
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: mambocowboy on May 06, 2018, 08:07:16 PM
Why do Colombianas post pics of themselves on Facebook with their old gringo boyfriends? And why do so many colombianos like the pic?
Gringos are a status symbol. To Colombians it means she won the lottery,  struck it rich...
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 06, 2018, 08:38:33 PM
Gringos are a status symbol. To Colombians it means she won the lottery,  struck it rich...

Or  maybe Expat is on to something

And these chicks are just advertising that they like ham sandwiches jajaja

What better way to let other gringos know she likes ham sandwiches then to post pics of herself with an older gringo
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: mambocowboy on May 06, 2018, 10:09:46 PM
Or  maybe Expat is on to something

And these chicks are just advertising that they like ham sandwiches jajaja

What better way to let other gringos know she likes ham sandwiches then to post pics of herself with an older gringo
Definitely!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 06, 2018, 11:05:00 PM
Definitely!

This chick doesn’t look bad but is it really normal to get on Facebook and ask if someone would like to invite her to dinner to practice speaking jajajaj

Danger Danger Will Robinson !


This one says she gives private spanish lessions.


https://www.facebook.com/lili.lii.1 (https://www.facebook.com/lili.lii.1)
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 06:13:46 AM
Why do Colombianas post pics of themselves on Facebook with their old gringo boyfriends? And why do so many colombianos like the pic?


That one in th foto DEFINITELY has a cara de puta.

I wouldnt be seen with that type in public or private..
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 06:16:13 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=682417868614300&set=p.682417868614300&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=682417868614300&set=p.682417868614300&type=3&theater)

In her comments...she says...she is going to drink until she forgets your name. More like she is going to drink until she forgets who's banging her. jajaja


With any luck the old bastard with her .....won't remember her name either.

This one as well another "Cara de Puta"
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 06:20:41 AM
This chick doesn’t look bad but is it really normal to get on Facebook and ask if someone would like to invite her to dinner to practice speaking jajajaj

Danger Danger Will Robinson !


This one says she gives private spanish lessions.


https://www.facebook.com/lili.lii.1 (https://www.facebook.com/lili.lii.1)

Think she just might be naive. Definitely "normal" looking
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: benjio on May 07, 2018, 09:36:55 AM
This one as well another "Cara de Puta"


Why do you say that? Her hair? I think it's funny you'd make that type of judgement based on a single photograph. I know rocker chicks in Bogota that look like her. Normal girls...students.


I'm not trying to say you're wrong but I'd like to know why you made that assumption. Would you think the same if she was in the picture alone instead of with an older gringo? Does someone know this guy personally? He could just as easy be Colombian! The girl's facebook page Cali posted obviously SCREAMS prepago. She all but says it. But the other one....looks like a normal chick to me. Think about it like this. Look at the girl in Cali's profile photo. I'm assuming that's the mother of his child. If she took a picture with him and posted it, would you think she was a prepago as well? Because that's obviously not the case.


The younger girls with older guys thing is normal in Colombia. We all know that. I won't go as far as posting their pics here but I know dozens of girls in Colombia that have older boyfriends/husbands and they post pics with them just like any girl with a husband/boyfriend around the same age. None of them are prepagos, golddiggers, or whatever. They're normal girls that fell for older guys.


You have a lot more in country time than me Expat. But as a single, heterosexual male I couldn't live in a place where I had such a low opinion of the women. If I were you I would have been gone a long time ago.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 07, 2018, 11:17:59 AM

 Think about it like this. Look at the girl in Cali's profile photo. I'm assuming that's the mother of his child. If she took a picture with him and posted it, would you think she was a prepago as well? Because that's obviously not the case.



The chick in the photo is not my current girlfriend.


She is just some 20 year old chick that I met and we hit it off.


The only point I was making with the pic is that there are 20 year old women in Medellin that have no problem hooking up with guys in their 50's.


It's pretty obvious that she was just interested in sex....because we did it twice before we ever when out. And then she only wanted to go watch a soccer game....so that is what we did.
She was a very nice chick and a very enjoyable way to spend a Sunday in Medellin.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 01:00:18 PM

Why do you say that? Her hair? I think it's funny you'd make that type of judgement based on a single photograph. I know rocker chicks in Bogota that look like her. Normal girls...students.


I'm not trying to say you're wrong but I'd like to know why you made that assumption. Would you think the same if she was in the picture alone instead of with an older gringo? Does someone know this guy personally? He could just as easy be Colombian! The girl's facebook page Cali posted obviously SCREAMS prepago. She all but says it. But the other one....looks like a normal chick to me. Think about it like this. Look at the girl in Cali's profile photo. I'm assuming that's the mother of his child. If she took a picture with him and posted it, would you think she was a prepago as well? Because that's obviously not the case.


The younger girls with older guys thing is normal in Colombia. We all know that. I won't go as far as posting their pics here but I know dozens of girls in Colombia that have older boyfriends/husbands and they post pics with them just like any girl with a husband/boyfriend around the same age. None of them are prepagos, golddiggers, or whatever. They're normal girls that fell for older guys.


You have a lot more in country time than me Expat. But as a single, heterosexual male I couldn't live in a place where I had such a low opinion of the women. If I were you I would have been gone a long time ago.

I took a look at her facebook site I rescind my opinion..she looks like a normal girl. You are right cant judge by one foto

 But generally , If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck , it aint a Peacock


The one with the coloured hair though..my opinion is the same
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 01:01:41 PM

The chick in the photo is not my current girlfriend.


She is just some 20 year old chick that I met and we hit it off.


The only point I was making with the pic is that there are 20 year old women in Medellin that have no problem hooking up with guys in their 50's.


It's pretty obvious that she was just interested in sex....because we did it twice before we ever when out. And then she only wanted to go watch a soccer game....so that is what we did.
She was a very nice chick and a very enjoyable way to spend a Sunday in Medellin.


His girl is normal looking. And the one in the picture as well
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 01:12:05 PM
"Cara de Puta" doesnt mean necessarily she is a puta , puta. Means she has morals and characteristics of that type of person..


Its a Colombian expression


Usually by how she dresses, how much make up, how she walks and carries herself





Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: utopiacowboy on May 07, 2018, 01:26:12 PM
I just don't get this need to feel superior because some chick is a puta. Like some guy whose ass is owned by whatever company he works for at a certain rate per hour is better than her? If I could have gotten paid for screwing instead of being a software developer I definitely would have gone for the screwing!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 07, 2018, 01:45:30 PM


You have a lot more in country time than me Expat. But as a single, heterosexual male I couldn't live in a place where I had such a low opinion of the women. If I were you I would have been gone a long time ago.



Benjio


You should probably cut Expat a little slack.....because I think he has had a bad go of it. Jajaja


Let’s take Tinder for instance....I’m quite sure Tinder attracts a much higher percentage of prepagos than you would find in the general population of Colombia but I think it is a good example of what is going on here.


I’m 56 and my target age range on Tinder is 20 to 26. I might like 25 or 30 chicks in that age group that I find attractive before I get one that likes me back so you can communicate.


Of the women I meet on Tinder in that age group .....50 percent are looking for some kind of compensation and the other 50 percent are looking just to date have fun and or looking for a boyfriend.


Now imagine you are Expat....he is even a little older than me...maybe somewhat of a geek and his target age range is 28 to 36 and a full 70 percent of the women interested in him are looking for a payday. LOL!


So you can see the perception of what is going on in Medellin or anywhere else for that matter depends in a large part....on who you are and what you are looking for.


I imagine if I started dating Colombian women in their mid to late thirties I would be like “prepagdos” what prepagos....just like when I landed in Colombia 20 years ago.


Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 07, 2018, 01:52:46 PM
I just don't get this need to feel superior because some chick is a puta. Like some guy whose ass is owned by whatever company he works for at a certain rate per hour is better than her? If I could have gotten paid for screwing instead of being a software developer I definitely would have gone for the screwing!


I’m not sure where the hang ups come from. I think the Bible has something to do with it.
And the fact that a lot of hookers in the USA are gross drug addicts and generally are lowlifes,


Not so much in Colombia.....forget the girlfriend experience..... a lot of old guys here go for the wife experience and live with their prepagos full time.


As it stands now....i’m trying to mentally prepare myself for the day that I just can’t find any chicks that I really like that also like me.....because when that day comes....i’ll be joining the ranks of the P4P crowd or just have to stop having sex.


I’ll might even come on here to tell guys that most women are putas and that it took me all this time to finally see light....LMFAO!!!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 06:39:12 PM
I just don't get this need to feel superior because some chick is a puta. Like some guy whose ass is owned by whatever company he works for at a certain rate per hour is better than her? If I could have gotten paid for screwing instead of being a software developer I definitely would have gone for the screwing!


fine..would you trust any of these type of women...prostitutes malevolent gold diggers..zorras (sluts)whatever ..all the same.. enough to marry or have a serious relationship?


Most of them will lie, cheat and manipulate..or do anything to get money.


Some will even drug you with danga, or other things.


You can respect them if you want. I have more respect for the single mom working 60 hours a week who is too proud to lower her standards and screw or scam a gringo she is not really attracted to
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 06:42:16 PM

I’m not sure where the hang ups come from. I think the Bible has something to do with it.
And the fact that a lot of hookers in the USA are gross drug addicts and generally are lowlifes,


Not so much in Colombia.....forget the girlfriend experience..... a lot of old guys here go for the wife experience and live with their prepagos full time.


As it stands now....i’m trying to mentally prepare myself for the day that I just can’t find any chicks that I really like that also like me.....because when that day comes....i’ll be joining the ranks of the P4P crowd or just have to stop having sex.


I’ll might even come on here to tell guys that most women are putas and that it took me all this time to finally see light....LMFAO!!!


Not the bible...I am not religious..common sense
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 07, 2018, 06:44:20 PM

fine..would you trust any of these type of women...prostitutes malevolent gold diggers..zorras (sluts)whatever ..all the same.. enough to marry or have a serious relationship?


Most of them will lie, cheat and manipulate..or do anything to get money.


Some will even drug you with danga, or other things.


You can respect them if you want. I have more respect for the single mom working 60 hours a week who is too proud to lower her standards and screw or scam a gringo she is not really attracted to


Hmmm


Sounds like you have a story to tell. What happened?


Plenty of guys in Medellin live with prepagos and they are very happy from what I can tell.


What kind of bad experiences have you had....I mean know about. jajaja
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 06:47:27 PM

Benjio


You should probably cut Expat a little slack.....because I think he has had a bad go of it. Jajaja


Let’s take Tinder for instance....I’m quite sure Tinder attracts a much higher percentage of prepagos than you would find in the general population of Colombia but I think it is a good example of what is going on here.


I’m 56 and my target age range on Tinder is 20 to 26. I might like 25 or 30 chicks in that age group that I find attractive before I get one that likes me back so you can communicate.


Of the women I meet on Tinder in that age group .....50 percent are looking for some kind of compensation and the other 50 percent are looking just to date have fun and or looking for a boyfriend.


Now imagine you are Expat....he is even a little older than me...maybe somewhat of a geek and his target age range is 28 to 36 and a full 70 percent of the women interested in him are looking for a payday. LOL!


So you can see the perception of what is going on in Medellin or anywhere else for that matter depends in a large part....on who you are and what you are looking for.


I imagine if I started dating Colombian women in their mid to late thirties I would be like “prepagdos” what prepagos....just like when I landed in Colombia 20 years ago.


Somewhat of a geek ha ha ha


I am going to have to challenge you to a picture posting contest like I did with Bernard but you will probably chicken out like he did..LOL

And I dont know if you noticed? But sometimes (not always).the girls in their late 20s or early 30s are more picky than the younger ones cuz they have thier sh1t together.

But I dont think age is all that big of an issue.



My current Girlfriend is 19. I wont go any further into it.


I was just commenting on whether they had a Cara de Puta, and obviously I was too fast on the one girl, cuz I didnt look at the facebook page.


It was nothing to do with being with the older guy.. Just a quick reaction the way she was dressed in the foto and I obviously mistaken

 Yeah I know (second hand) about some of those old farts you are talking about.


I could tell stories, about some of them involving sex with underage girls and the like, but I dont want to be hit with a slander suite and was advised to keep my mouth shut by some people.


Those guys are one of the reasons I got out of Medellin, And it has nothing to do with the bible.


But the main reason is I dont want to get COPD form the horrible air pollution there,


Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 07, 2018, 07:50:57 PM

fine..would you trust any of these type of women...prostitutes malevolent gold diggers..zorras (sluts)whatever ..all the same.. enough to marry or have a serious relationship?

Most of them will lie, cheat and manipulate..or do anything to get money.

Some will even drug you with danga, or other things.



No one is saying you should marry a prepago. But this does seem pretty harsh coming from a guy that can't even come up with at least one horror story. Kind of a cop out really.


I don't know...maybe it is just me....but for me to talk that harshly about prepagos I would have to be some kind of a religious zealot or I would have had to have had a very bad personal experience with a prepago. It is anyone's guess what happened to you for you to form the opinions you have about prepagos in particular and colombianas in general.


I just see guys that seem by all accounts to be happy with their relationships with prepagos.
But hey I'm no expert. jajaja


Never knew that you wanted to know what Bernard looked like. I could show you if interested. But my advice would be to stay as far away from him as possible. But he is better looking than you by about 100 percent....he is only about 50 percent better looking than me. jajaja


You know what they say...fock the FARC it's the crazy gringos in Colombia that you really have to worry about. LOL


I'll see if I can find an unflattering photo of myself to put in my profile so you don't feel bad.
No point in you posting another photo of yourself on here without your shirt on. We all remember the last one. jajaja

Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 07, 2018, 07:59:07 PM
ooops glamor shot jajaja


I'll look for a snap shot later.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 08:14:59 PM

No one is saying you should marry a prepago. But this does seem pretty harsh coming from a guy that can't even come up with at least one horror story. Kind of a cop out really.


I don't know...maybe it is just me....but for me to talk that harshly about prepagos I would have to be some kind of a religious zealot or I would have had to have had a very bad personal experience with a prepago. It is anyone's guess what happened to you for you to form the opinions you have about prepagos in particular and colombianas in general.


I just see guys that seem by all accounts to be happy with their relationships with prepagos.
But hey I'm no expert. jajaja


Never knew that you wanted to know what Bernard looked like. I could show you if interested. But my advice would be to stay as far away from him as possible. But he is better looking than you by about 100 percent....he is only about 50 percent better looking than me. jajaja


You know what they say...fock the FARC it's the crazy gringos in Colombia that you really have to worry about. LOL

I really


I'll see if I can find an unflattering photo of myself to put in my profile so you don't feel bad.
No point in you posting another photo of yourself on here without your shirt on. We all remember the last one. jajaja


Really dont know about prepagos..never been with one..well not an.official.one anyway..

Did go to a strip.show once and what the girls told me made me sick..

Any guy who wanted up an.old mattress upstairs.

Cara de Puta is an expression..dont know howcwe got on the topic of prepagos
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 07, 2018, 08:23:13 PM

Really dont know about prepagos..never been with one..well not an.official.one anyway..

Did go to a strip.show once and what the girls told me made me sick..

Any guy who wanted up an.old mattress upstairs.

Cara de Puta is an expression..dont know howcwe got on the topic of prepagos


Hate to put you on the spot but inquiring minds want to know.


What exactly did the strippers  tell you at the strip show that made you sick and to deserve this:


.would you trust any of these type of women...prostitutes malevolent gold diggers..zorras (sluts)whatever ..all the same......Most of them will lie, cheat and manipulate..or do anything to get money.Some will even drug you with danga, or other things.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 08:25:43 PM

Hate to put you on the spot but inquiring minds want to know.


What exactly did the strippers  tell you at the strip show that made you sick and to deserve this:


.would you trust any of these type of women...prostitutes malevolent gold diggers..zorras (sluts)whatever ..all the same......Most of them will lie, cheat and manipulate..or do anything to get money.Some will even drug you with danga, or other things.


Only common sense..
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 07, 2018, 08:29:11 PM

Only common sense..


Hmmmm


They wanted to charge you extra for a girlfriend experience? jajaja


I don't know ......really I have no idea what they told you.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 08:32:37 PM

.Basically the part about having any guy upstairs for 200 COP on a dirty old matress..disgusting


Rest is only common sense..prepagos are notorious for drugging guys..have heard the story from.many people

People have to do what they need to do to survive, oksy, but I aint gonna marry them

Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 07, 2018, 08:34:40 PM
Anyway enough of this crap its really getting stupid
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 07, 2018, 08:42:35 PM
Anyway enough of this crap its really getting stupid


yeah


How did you know the mattress was dirty. jajaja


Anyway I'm sure you have your reasons for disliking prepagos. Doesn't really matter what they are.


Some guys like them and some guys don't.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: buencamino3 on May 09, 2018, 05:30:03 PM
Expat you seem to be swinging wide. A while back you were with a hard drinking middle aged woman in Capurganá and now you aver to be with a 19 year old. Whatever the veracity of the histories presented on this forum I applaud the latest development. A 19 year old will rejuvenate you.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 09, 2018, 11:07:12 PM

but no way a 25 yo is gonna go out with a guy in his 50s or 60s and not eventually expect some material support.


and there is no way the guy should expect otherwise.

I know short, decrepit 70 year olds with lots of money with 18 yo girl friends who claim they give them nothing

sure they get the poorest girl from a strato 1 barrio and try to be cheap..but there is no way these girls are with this type of guy wo some financial benefit. Its beyond ludicrous to think otherwise.




Buencamino


Little did we know at the time that Expat was speaking from experience when he wrote this. jajaja


Let's just hope his 19 year old girlfriend doesn't leave him in the poorhouse.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 10, 2018, 10:46:35 AM

Buencamino


Little did we know at the time that Expat was speaking from experience when he wrote this. jajaja


Let's just hope his 19 year old girlfriend doesn't leave him in the poorhouse.


No girl is gonna leave me in the poor house..I can Guarantee you that.




Not a chance. I wont marry them and bring them to the states.


Any relationship I have had, no matter how much I have spent I always came out richer afterwards.


My plan anyway is to spend all my money before I die, one way or another.


Anyway this is a waste of time talking about this. We are all gonna be dead in 20 or 30 years, so why sweat the small stuff. Just enjoy your life, whatever.



Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 10, 2018, 10:59:24 AM
Expat you seem to be swinging wide. A while back you were with a hard drinking middle aged woman in Capurganá and now you aver to be with a 19 year old. Whatever the veracity of the histories presented on this forum I applaud the latest development. A 19 year old will rejuvenate you.


She is actually way better and more mature than the other one (I wouldnt call her quite "middle aged" .ja ja)., if you can believe it.


The other one was very "vivedora"... to say the least
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 10, 2018, 11:43:38 AM

No girl is gonna leave me in the poor house..I can Guarantee you that.




Not a chance. I wont marry them and bring them to the states.


Any relationship I have had, no matter how much I have spent I always came out richer afterwards.


My plan anyway is to spend all my money before I die, one way or another.


Anyway this is a waste of time talking about this. We are all gonna be dead in 20 or 30 years, so why sweat the small stuff. Just enjoy your life, whatever.


LOL!


Who says not everybody can be Calipro. Jajajajaja!



Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 10, 2018, 02:25:04 PM
Yea, and not everybody can or wants to be a daddy as he's approaching age 60. Can't imagine being past age 75, still waiting for the sound of a car, the closing of the door, signaling that my teenage child has come home.

On the one hand, if you're a man, you care for and look out for your offspring. On the other hand, to do so is gonna cramp any guy's ---any  playboy's style to some extent.

And whether you rate the mother to be as a '"6" as we've seen here or she's a 'two' or a 'ten' on your own scale, the way you guys dump on the women down there, making them out to be lying, sexually loose, opportunistic gold diggers,  and worse, I can't see why you'd want to have a kid in the first place.

I had kids comparitively later than most, but in my fifties, I still fully participated in their soccer team practices, playing hard and even today, we sometimes still work out together. But they're into their own successful lives now (well, one's still in college, but making 40K a year and they told him when he graduates next year, they'll start him at 80K) but I'm retiring without a hit on my own income, looking to get in even better physical shape and being able to travel fast and light. No kids, minimal baggage.

Don't get me wrong--having kids, being a Dad, is great. I've had some awful moments, but a lot more great, proud ones. My kids and I have traveled to more places together than most guys here will ever see. They've grown up and are like stars. That said, we've got Hong Kong, Macau, Barcelona, London, Paris and Rome (and a Mexico & C. America cruise) lining up and not having the boys join us, will make the 'quality' a LOT better.

Doing it --having kids responsibly in the latter stages of one's life? Can be done, but with some real cramping. ...
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 10, 2018, 05:05:19 PM
Yea, and not everybody can or wants to be a daddy as he's approaching age 60. Can't imagine being past age 75, still waiting for the sound of a car, the closing of the door, signaling that my teenage child has come home.

On the one hand, if you're a man, you care for and look out for your offspring. On the other hand, to do so is gonna cramp any guy's ---any  playboy's style to some extent.

And whether you rate the mother to be as a '"6" as we've seen here or she's a 'two' or a 'ten' on your own scale, the way you guys dump on the women down there, making them out to be lying, sexually loose, opportunistic gold diggers,  and worse, I can't see why you'd want to have a kid in the first place.

I had kids comparitively later than most, but in my fifties, I still fully participated in their soccer team practices, playing hard and even today, we sometimes still work out together. But they're into their own successful lives now (well, one's still in college, but making 40K a year and they told him when he graduates next year, they'll start him at 80K) but I'm retiring without a hit on my own income, looking to get in even better physical shape and being able to travel fast and light. No kids, minimal baggage.

Don't get me wrong--having kids, being a Dad, is great. I've had some awful moments, but a lot more great, proud ones. My kids and I have traveled to more places together than most guys here will ever see. They've grown up and are like stars. That said, we've got Hong Kong, Macau, Barcelona, London, Paris and Rome (and a Mexico & C. America cruise) lining up and not having the boys join us, will make the 'quality' a LOT better.

Doing it --having kids responsibly in the latter stages of one's life? Can be done, but with some real cramping. ...


Who said anything about kids.Just been dating for 4 months. Could end next week.She.is not interested in kids now.

There was a 25 year old who was interested in having kids..
But I hit it off better with this one..she was mad when she found out but now we are friends again..

Not saying this to brag or make like I am some kinda stud or the "most desireable guy in the world" (Stevie from Dallas)and not denying there isnt economic interest in both cases..ja ja  just stating facts..

Oh yes..I am saying that..these foreign.women (no.matter what age) are all after you guys for money in my case it is for my sexy body..

www.google.com.co/search?q=im+too+sexy&oq=im+too+sexy&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60.7717j1j4&client=ms-android-americamovil-co&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#mie=e,,im%20too%20sexy,H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLRT9c3LDYwLS7PtSx5xOjJLfDyxz1hKYdJa05eY7Ti4grOyC93zSvJLKkU0uFig7KUuASkUDRqMEjxcaGI8AAAqJBQ-FwAAAA


Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 10, 2018, 06:18:43 PM

Who said anything about kids.Just been dating for 4 months. Could end next week.She.is not interested in kids now.

There was a 25 year old who was interested in having kids..
But I hit it off better with this one..she was mad when she found out but now we are friends again..

Not saying this to brag or make like I am some kinda stud or the "most desireable guy in the world" (Stevie from Dallas)and not denying there isnt economic interest in both cases..ja ja  just stating facts..

Oh yes..I am saying that..these foreign.women (no.matter what age) are all after you guys for money in my case it is for my sexy body..

www.google.com.co/search?q=im+too+sexy&oq=im+too+sexy&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60.7717j1j4&client=ms-android-americamovil-co&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#mie=e,,im%20too%20sexy,H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLRT9c3LDYwLS7PtSx5xOjJLfDyxz1hKYdJa05eY7Ti4grOyC93zSvJLKkU0uFig7KUuASkUDRqMEjxcaGI8AAAqJBQ-FwAAAA

As I recall, after being into the idea, you indicated you got the cockamamie idea out of your head (both of them) That was a while back, around the 'sixo' mark a few months ago, I guess.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 10, 2018, 07:16:04 PM

And whether you rate the mother to be as a '"6" as we've seen here



Where did you see that?


The chick I had in my profile pic was a 6 and as I said before....she is not the mother of my child.


She is just some 20 year old chick that I hit it off with.


I don't know who you are referring to when you say the way you guys dump on the women down there, making them out to be lying, sexually loose, opportunistic gold diggers,  and worse,  LOL!!!


But I will say that there is a positive correlation between a gringos success with  colombianas and their opinions of colombianas.


When Expat gets dumped by his 19 year old he will be back to bad mouthing them again. Cara de puta and the whole nine yards. jajaja


To tell you the truth I didn't think anyone took him seriously until now.
The guy is all over the place....I'm still waiting for him to say it was all just a gag and that women in their 30's are still a much better option. jajaja




Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 10, 2018, 08:05:39 PM

Where did you see that?


The chick I had in my profile pic was a 6 and as I said before....she is not the mother of my child.


She is just some 20 year old chick that I hit it off with.


I don't know who you are referring to when you say the way you guys dump on the women down there, making them out to be lying, sexually loose, opportunistic gold diggers,  and worse,  LOL!!!


But I will say that there is a positive correlation between a gringos success with  colombianas and their opinions of colombianas.


When Expat gets dumped by his 19 year old he will be back to bad mouthing them again. Cara de puta and the whole nine yards. jajaja


To tell you the truth I didn't think anyone took him seriously until now.
The guy is all over the place....I'm still waiting for him to say it was all just a gag and that women in their 30's are still a much better option. jajaja

I stand corrected on the "6" designation comment.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 10, 2018, 11:39:39 PM

Oh yes..I am saying that..these foreign.women (no.matter what age) are all after you guys for money in my case it is for my sexy body..



Who says you need a sexy body. jajaja
This lovely couple has a love child.
You don't have to be a gringo to date up.
Old colombianos wrote the book on banging young hot chicks.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 11, 2018, 07:10:52 AM

Who says you need a sexy body. jajaja
This lovely couple has a love child.
You don't have to be a gringo to date up.
Old colombianos wrote the book on banging young hot chicks.


You know I am just bringing levity to this heavy topic dont you?
Shouldnt take life so seriously...maybe you dont... maybe I am talking to myself


Where do you dig all these fotos and other stuff up anyway..LOL



Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 11, 2018, 07:24:56 AM





When Expat gets dumped by his 19 year old he will be back to bad mouthing them again. Cara de puta and the whole nine yards. jajaja





No when it ends , for whatever reason, cant use that excuse...she has a very innocent face and demeanor.. (not like the last one).. I wont be posting her picture , because you will be giving her a "5" or something on your own warped (or subjective maybe a better word)  standards (and you say I have bad opinion of Colombianas)..even though people have reportedly told me she is very pretty. And also I dont like bringing personal stuff up here. I have let this blow out of proportion, and it has already come back to bite me on another site. Lot of people with their own issues out there.


When it ends, I may winge and complain and be all hurt, , but will just resolve and go on to say "next".


For now I only have the best intentions and hopes.


I should definitely  stop with the "Cara de Puta" labels though


cheers
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 11, 2018, 07:26:49 AM
Where is Hector to get this thread back "On Topic"
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on May 11, 2018, 08:48:49 PM
elex said:
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Where is Hector to get this thread back "On Topic"
I would but I am still recovering from getting my laptop stolen last week in Bogota!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 12, 2018, 06:36:53 AM
elex said:I would but I am still recovering from getting my laptop stolen last week in Bogota!

Ouch... How'd that go down??
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on May 12, 2018, 08:39:06 AM
Robert angel said:
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Ouch... How'd that go down??
It went down from me being tired and inattentive after a 5.5 hour delayed flight from Dulles to Bogota. I refer to it as the 'pump fake'. I got into the shuttle bus with my computer bag, which contained my glasses, necessary meds, car keys/house keys and Bose Earbuds. When a man goes to the driver and calls me out to inspect my bag. While I am distracted at the rear of the shuttlebus, the man's female accomplice goes into the van and snatches my computer bag and takes off for the airport. The man departs, me I am confused and tired from the flight as to what happened. The pair re-enter the airport and come out another door into a waiting taxi. It was all caught on camera but they must have strategically selected the placement of the taxi because even with the license numbers all over the taxi, they were unable to identify it. Fortunately, I had trip insurance. So now I wait and see how much I have to play tug-o-war with the insurance company to try to recover any losses. Usually I have my wallet and passport in my bag. This time I had those important things on my person. So I look at it as a close call and a warning!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Calipro on May 12, 2018, 10:13:54 AM
Robert angel said:It went down from me being tired and inattentive after a 5.5 hour delayed flight from Dulles to Bogota. I refer to it as the 'pump fake'. I got into the shuttle bus with my computer bag, which contained my glasses, necessary meds, car keys/house keys and Bose Earbuds. When a man goes to the driver and calls me out to inspect my bag. While I am distracted at the rear of the shuttlebus, the man's female accomplice goes into the van and snatches my computer bag and takes off for the airport. The man departs, me I am confused and tired from the flight as to what happened. The pair re-enter the airport and come out another door into a waiting taxi. It was all caught on camera but they must have strategically selected the placement of the taxi because even with the license numbers all over the taxi, they were unable to identify it. Fortunately, I had trip insurance. So now I wait and see how much I have to play tug-o-war with the insurance company to try to recover any losses. Usually I have my wallet and passport in my bag. This time I had those important things on my person. So I look at it as a close call and a warning!

My grandmother had vivdeo ccmera stolen at the airport  and her home owners  insurance cover the loss
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 12, 2018, 12:20:31 PM
Robert angel said:It went down from me being tired and inattentive after a 5.5 hour delayed flight from Dulles to Bogota. I refer to it as the 'pump fake'. I got into the shuttle bus with my computer bag, which contained my glasses, necessary meds, car keys/house keys and Bose Earbuds. When a man goes to the driver and calls me out to inspect my bag. While I am distracted at the rear of the shuttlebus, the man's female accomplice goes into the van and snatches my computer bag and takes off for the airport. The man departs, me I am confused and tired from the flight as to what happened. The pair re-enter the airport and come out another door into a waiting taxi. It was all caught on camera but they must have strategically selected the placement of the taxi because even with the license numbers all over the taxi, they were unable to identify it. Fortunately, I had trip insurance. So now I wait and see how much I have to play tug-o-war with the insurance company to try to recover any losses. Usually I have my wallet and passport in my bag. This time I had those important things on my person. So I look at it as a close call and a warning!

I dont  know why this has never happened to me.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on May 12, 2018, 03:34:49 PM
It must be that cloaking device that you engage! Or it could be the deodorant, (or lack there of) you are wearing!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 12, 2018, 04:15:36 PM
I have taken that shuttle at least 50.times..

And I know niave chicas who got robbed in the transmillenio in Bogota who have have taken it countless times wo incident.

Guess there is cara de puta and then there is cara de bobo

Sorry Wild for being so blunt.you are an adult..You obviously did something or acted in some way you were an.obvious victim..dando papaya..

Maybe your head is swivelling
too.much you are too.preocupied to take care of your things..or maybe too many bags..two maximum..one in each hand..always have your hands on both..think.like they taught you in the navy..

Or maybe it was an honest mistake

Please dont take my harsh anaysis of the situation based on personal exoerience and sarcasm  too personally. I am sure you have been through worse hazing in the Navy.

But it appears as if you have not gotten a lot of foreign travel experience in the navy.

Anyway you will.learn..

We all are always learning, until we are on our last breath.Myself included (But Calipro.is all.knowing..ja ja)
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 12, 2018, 04:20:39 PM
I dont  know why this has never happened to me.

Yet.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 12, 2018, 04:38:09 PM
Yet.

Maybe when I am 80 and senile..

Or maybe more linely I will.get killed in a crash in a Taxi x
Coming from the.airport
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 12, 2018, 05:07:05 PM
Maybe when I am 80 and senile..

Or maybe more linely I will.get killed in a crash in a Taxi x
Coming from the.airport

Geeze---It's not like we can't change our minds, but whether it's women, this latest topic--really anything here - -your expressed viewpoint blows every which way but straight.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on May 12, 2018, 05:07:30 PM
Elex said:
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Sorry Wild for being so blunt.you are an adult..You obviously did something or acted in some way you were an.obvious victim..dando papaya..

Maybe your head is swivelling
too.much you are too.preocupied to take care of your things..or maybe too many bags..two maximum..one in each hand..always have your hands on both..think.like they taught you in the navy..

Or maybe it was an honest mistake

Please dont take my harsh anaysis of the situation based on personal exoerience and sarcasm  too personally. I am sure you have been through worse hazing in the Navy.

But it appears as if you have not gotten a lot of foreign travel experience in the navy.
I said on the outset that I was tired and inattentive. I guess I didn't make that clear enough. Of course I seem to remember that you dodged a bullet recently. Several of them to be exact!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on May 12, 2018, 05:09:47 PM
Robert angel said:
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Geeze---It's not like we can't change our minds, but whether it's women, this latest topic--really anything here - -your expressed viewpoint blows every which way but straight.
Thank you for verifying that for me! I thought I was the only one who noticed!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on May 12, 2018, 08:52:26 PM
I said on the outset that I was tired and inattentive.

Sorry to hear this happened to you. That is GREAT that you purchased trip insurance!

In 2015 I took a trip to Nicaragua and nearly lost my passport the morning I was flying back to the U.S.A.

I was in a cab heading to the airport in Managua and during the cab ride I checked to make sure I had all the key items: passport, wallet/credit cards, phone, flight info, etc.  Somehow I dropped the passport as I was getting out of the cab (without knowing it). A few minutes after my cab left I realized I didn't have my passport anymore.

Luckily it was a "hotel cab" so the security at the airport called my hotel and the cab driver came back to the airport in 5 or 10 minutes with my passport! It had fallen to the floor of the cab.


Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 13, 2018, 06:40:39 AM
Sorry to hear this happened to you. That is GREAT that you purchased trip insurance!

In 2015 I took a trip to Nicaragua and nearly lost my passport the morning I was flying back to the U.S.A.

I was in a cab heading to the airport in Managua and during the cab ride I checked to make sure I had all the key items: passport, wallet/credit cards, phone, flight info, etc.  Somehow I dropped the passport as I was getting out of the cab (without knowing it). A few minutes after my cab left I realized I didn't have my passport anymore.

Luckily it was a "hotel cab" so the security at the airport called my hotel and the cab driver came back to the airport in 5 or 10 minutes with my passport! It had fallen to the floor of the cab.

I need to reexamine what safety measures my credit cards, homeowners insurance and airlines offer or for a fee, can extend.

It's even more important as I've been lucky so far and nothing lasts forever. Plus, we're planning trips where while we try and allow a couple of hours of layover between international destinations, when you're talking about several nations, inexplicable stuff happens. Besides, you're often stressed, tired or sometimes hyped up--things aren't natural.

I don't have to pay $425 a year hurricane insurance, and like when I've paid for travel insurance in the past and not needed it, I groan a bit. However, we're wayyy overdue for a bad hurricane.

And one hurricane can wipe my house away and regular homeowner's covers very little.

I'm paying for a vacation that involves several cities, each several hours apart, different nations, etc. Just one link gone bad can spoil the whole thing.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on May 13, 2018, 07:53:48 AM
Robert angel said:
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I need to reexamine what safety measures my credit cards, homeowners insurance and airlines offer or for a fee, can extend.

It's even more important as I've been lucky so far and nothing lasts forever. Plus, we're planning trips where while we try and allow a couple of hours of layover between international destinations, when you're talking about several nations, inexplicable stuff happens. Besides, you're often stressed, tired or sometimes hyped up--things aren't natural.

I don't have to pay $425 a year hurricane insurance, and like when I've paid for travel insurance in the past and not needed it, I groan a bit. However, we're wayyy overdue for a bad hurricane.

And one hurricane can wipe my house away and regular homeowner's covers very little.

I'm paying for a vacation that involves several cities, each several hours apart, different nations, etc. Just one link gone bad can spoil the whole thing.
I was unaware that homeowner's insurance was tied into traveling until my agent issued me the forms. It looks with everything that my losses are going to be almost $2000. And that is not including software and  data lost. Somethings you just can't replace. I opted for travel insurance ever since I began to travel abroad, (ok to Colombia). It is a pretty comprehensive plan that will cover your trip, lets say if you get sick or injured before you leave and have to cancel. It also has upto $500,000 of medical insurance. I thought I was going to have to use it my first time out. I was dining with a girlfriend in Cartagena at an outdoor restaurant. The sun was going down, the breeze was fresh and removed quite a bit of the heat from the day, a solo artist at the restaurant singing mellow songs. Perfect conditions. When I got up to leave, I developed a cramp in my thigh. When I get these, I about pass out from the intense pain! I managed to hold onto the table so as I didn't fall down. Finally the pain subsided and my gf said, "Your face went completely white!" I learned to drink more fluids after that!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: fathertime on May 14, 2018, 08:31:07 AM

And I dont know if you noticed? But sometimes (not always).the girls in their late 20s or early 30s are more picky than the younger ones cuz they have thier sh1t together.

But I dont think age is all that big of an issue.

My current Girlfriend is 19. I wont go any further into it.

Based on many of your earlier writings it is a bit surprising to see you have a girlfriend that is SO young.  If I recall you are in your early 60's.   19 year olds are great to look at no doubt.  Many moons ago, I was married to an 18 year old, although I was young also...one of a kind, died very young...    Aside from youth/good looks (I assume) what are the things you find attractive with your current lady?...if you don't mind me asking.   





Somewhat of a geek ha ha ha




I am going to have to challenge you to a picture posting contest like I did with Bernard but you will probably chicken out like he did..LOL


I am doubting that you saw a photo of Bernard....he posted here before under a different name or two.   
Although Bernard could be arrogant at times, nobody could say he isn't a handsome individual that probably could attract a lot of ladies.  He would be fairly old by now....but who isn't!   :D [size=78%]  [/size]


Fathertime! 
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 14, 2018, 12:22:30 PM
Elex said:I said on the outset that I was tired and inattentive. I guess I didn't make that clear enough. Of course I seem to remember that you dodged a bullet recently. Several of them to be exact!

The thing is that shuttle is not like on a bus in the inner city.
People who take it are usually upper strata people who have bought  tickets for 2 domestic flights within Colombia. Or an international flight plus a domestic flight. The shuttle is mostly full.of honest people who would follow you if you left your briefcase behind and give it back to.you.Not gamines de calle who are targeting forgetful people.

Even if you were arriving from Europe or Asia jet lagging and left your brief case behind you it would be extremely unlucky to find someone on  the inter
Terminal shuttle trying to target you for a brief case.

More likely someone took it by mistake and was too embarrased or lazy to contact you. That is more likely occurence with upper strata Colombians

Or maybe I am missing something here.I assumed yiu were talking ablut the inter_ terminal shuttle. Was it on the shuttle after you pass through baggage pickup on the other side of security? A hotel shuttle? I usually take a taxi to tge hotel for 30 mil COP
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 14, 2018, 12:43:14 PM
Sorry to hear this happened to you. That is GREAT that you purchased trip insurance!

In 2015 I took a trip to Nicaragua and nearly lost my passport the morning I was flying back to the U.S.A.

I was in a cab heading to the airport in Managua and during the cab ride I checked to make sure I had all the key items: passport, wallet/credit cards, phone, flight info, etc.  Somehow I dropped the passport as I was getting out of the cab (without knowing it). A few minutes after my cab left I realized I didn't have my passport anymore.

Luckily it was a "hotel cab" so the security at the airport called my hotel and the cab driver came back to the airport in 5 or 10 minutes with my passport! It had fallen to the floor of the cab.

I have left cell phones and things in cabs and internet cafes in Colombia a few times ovdr the years  and people always bring it back to me or leave it where it was.

Of course the taxis rightfully expect a small reward..I usually give them 20 mil for being honest.

The only time I had my cell phone stolen was once when I left it in an unlocked locker in Bodytech gym.

But they "recovered" it 4 days later and one of the employees later mysteriously disapeared from the cleaning crew.

The locker room had cameras. I am.pretty.sure he is the one who did it.

This is the only time I had anything stolen from.me in Colombia after living here 6 years and travelling her since 2004.

Ripped off in this way way more times in other countries than Colombia, including Canada.

Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 14, 2018, 12:59:57 PM
Based on many of your earlier writings it is a bit surprising to see you have a girlfriend that is SO young.  If I recall you are in your early 60's.   19 year olds are great to look at no doubt.  Many moons ago, I was married to an 18 year old, although I was young also...one of a kind, died very young...    Aside from youth/good looks (I assume) what are the things you find attractive with your current lady?...if you don't mind me asking.   


I am doubting that you saw a photo of Bernard....he posted here before under a different name or two.   
Although Bernard could be arrogant at times, nobody could say he isn't a handsome individual that probably could attract a lot of ladies.  He would be fairly old by now....but who isn't!   :D [size=78%]  [/size]


Fathertime!
I will send you a PM.fathertime. I Will just say that she is more mature than some Colombianas I have met twice or 3 times her age.


I really didnt want to bring personal information up, but was kind of "goaded" into it by another member who kept bringing the "age" thing up..

Dont know why its such a big thing..I am not thinking of marrying her... yet. Could be over tomorrow or next week.

Aĺl I can say is I am treating her with utmost kindness and respect , like I do all women.And it was her who contacted me , not vice-versa.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 14, 2018, 01:37:29 PM
I will send you a PM.fathertime. I Will just say that she is more mature than some Colombianas I have met twice or 3 times her age.


I really didnt want to bring personal information up, but was kind of "goaded" into it by another member who kept bringing the "age" thing up..

Dont know why its such a big thing..I am not thinking of marrying her... yet. Could be over tomorrow or next week.

Aĺl I can say is I am treating her with utmost kindness and respect , like I do all women.And it was her who contacted me , not vice-versa.


Now who on God's earth could, after having read even a fraction of your posts, think otherwise?


I mean--like Holy ham sandwich, batman!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: buencamino3 on May 14, 2018, 04:26:49 PM
The thing is that shuttle is not like on a bus in the inner city.
People who take it are usually upper strata people who have bought  tickets for 2 domestic flights within Colombia. Or an international flight plus a domestic flight. The shuttle is mostly full.of honest people who would follow you if you left your briefcase behind and give it back to.you.Not gamines de calle who are targeting forgetful people.

Even if you were arriving from Europe or Asia jet lagging and left your brief case behind you it would be extremely unlucky to find someone on  the inter
Terminal shuttle trying to target you for a brief case.

More likely someone took it by mistake and was too embarrased or lazy to contact you. That is more likely occurence with upper strata Colombians

Or maybe I am missing something here.I assumed yiu were talking ablut the inter_ terminal shuttle. Was it on the shuttle after you pass through baggage pickup on the other side of security? A hotel shuttle? I usually take a taxi to tge hotel for 30 mil COP


Expat I think you must have skimmed his original post. If what happened was as he described it was an obvious and blatant scam. No one would be "called out" to have their valise examined on that shuttle bus (which is why it never happened to you). And there's nothing implied about a person's social or economic status in Colombia because they have a plane ticket. That's just nonsense, look at all the mulas. It reminds me of years ago when there were reports that "police" or maybe "DIAN agents" would stop foreigners in touristic areas of Bogota and insist they had to register the foreigner's money. I don't remember the details but the scam was along those lines. I am surprised that with all your posted negativism towards Colombians you appear to be an apologist for them in the above post.
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: robert angel on May 14, 2018, 07:18:20 PM

I have left cell phones and things in cabs and internet cafes in Colombia a few times ovdr the years  and people always bring it back to me or leave it where it was.



WOW!--- sounds like paradise! We're knocking Switzerland wayyy down the list and going to Colombia, where if we lose our valuables in an internet cafe of taxi, they'll "always" be returned to us!


And lots of beautiful women to treat with the "utmost kindness and respect" as well?


Definitely not the place for those alleged gringo whore mongers, who tends to target, only to complain about afterwards, those lower estrato 1 type girls!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Wildstubby on May 17, 2018, 06:47:21 PM
First off a shout out to buencamino3 for stating the obvious!
elexpatriado said:
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The thing is that shuttle is not like on a bus in the inner city.
People who take it are usually upper strata people who have bought  tickets for 2 domestic flights within Colombia. Or an international flight plus a domestic flight. The shuttle is mostly full.of honest people who would follow you if you left your briefcase behind and give it back to.you.Not gamines de calle who are targeting forgetful people.

Even if you were arriving from Europe or Asia jet lagging and left your brief case behind you it would be extremely unlucky to find someone on  the inter
Terminal shuttle trying to target you for a brief case.

More likely someone took it by mistake and was too embarrased or lazy to contact you. That is more likely occurence with upper strata Colombians

Or maybe I am missing something here.I assumed yiu were talking ablut the inter_ terminal shuttle. Was it on the shuttle after you pass through baggage pickup on the other side of security? A hotel shuttle? I usually take a taxi to tge hotel for 30 mil COP
Elex, I was going to the Aloft which is nearby the airport. It was a scam, a pump-fake, a mis-direction play and because I was so damn tired from the trip I fell hook, line, and sinker! Judging by what the cops told me who watched it on 'instant replay' on their IPhone, it was performed with great orchestration! Now I feel like [snip] enough and the only reason I state it here is because I hope that my words may save some sorry ass-fellow from falling for the same scheme! As stated before, this could have happened in Los Angeles, or NYC, as it did in Bogota! I am well aware that the Colombians, especially the 'puta de caras' line the streets with rose petals and ham sandwiches when you walk them!
Title: Re: Best City in Colombia for Meeting Ladies in Public Places?
Post by: Elexpatriado on May 18, 2018, 08:07:37 AM
First off a shout out to buencamino3 for stating the obvious!
elexpatriado said:Elex, I was going to the Aloft which is nearby the airport. It was a scam, a pump-fake, a mis-direction play and because I was so damn tired from the trip I fell hook, line, and sinker! Judging by what the cops told me who watched it on 'instant replay' on their IPhone, it was performed with great orchestration! Now I feel like [snip] enough and the only reason I state it here is because I hope that my words may save some sorry ass-fellow from falling for the same scheme! As stated before, this could have happened in Los Angeles, or NYC, as it did in Bogota! I am well aware that the Colombians, especially the 'puta de caras' line the streets with rose petals and ham sandwiches when you walk them!


Sorry didnt mean to be hard on you.


Must have been bad luck combined with being tired.
But dont be so hard and paranoid on Colombia because of it (I know I am one to talk because I post some negative posts about Colombianas  sometimes-and I have left the worst parts out-and the good parts as well, because those are boring).


But in Colombia, after travelling here since 2004 and living for 6 years, I have only had 2 incidents in relation to criminal activities involving physical  theft or violence. One when I left my locker unlocked in the gym in Bodytech and someone stole my cellphone (they recovered  it 4 days later) and once in Restaurante La  Piura (Peruvian restaurant) in Barrio Piñares in Pereira, (one of the best restaurants in the best barrio in the city), I witnessed 6 metres away a sicario assassination (9 bullets to the victim).


I have been exposed to a lot more thefts over the years in Calgary (Well mostly in 2006 when all the Addicts moved to the city before the cops  cleaned it up) and my 3 years working on rotation in Kazakhstan (Thats another story- oil company workers stole my wallet and glasses right out of my locker in the Company Compound, then had the gumption to phone my translator asking for a $500 reward to return them. I told him to translate this in Russian "Take my wallet, rotate it and stick it up your a$$").