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Re: careful in medellin, from a expat who lives there
« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2012, 09:14:52 AM »

Of course an exception was Robert Vignola:
http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?topic=1775.0


Walter Mora was murdered also, but was he non-Colombiano?

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Re: careful in medellin, from a expat who lives there
« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2012, 10:29:23 AM »
walter mora? wow havent heard that name in a long time, he was colombian, but lived in usa for a while. didnt know he was killed also, but not surprised, he used to pimp out his novia, what a class guy.




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1,000 peso each, 50 cent, 30p each !!!! 




they were after the blackberry phone, not the $$$ you dont know how many people i know in medellin who have gotten robbed for a lousy phone.




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Re: careful in medellin, from a expat who lives there
« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2012, 12:23:09 PM »
Both Robert and Walter were killed by hit men,  not that it makes a great deal of difference.  It was said at the time,  Walter owed money to the "guys" and was not paying back.  Robert was muddy,  speculation,  about his wife's family political involvement,  he also had a casino in Cali and went bankrupt and other money problems.  There is no CSI - Cali.  I am not trying to waterdown the deal here,  just that those were not random acts.

 
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« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2012, 12:23:09 PM »

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Re: careful in medellin, from a expat who lives there
« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2012, 05:19:39 PM »
Interesting. To this day no one knows for a fact (or has publicly stated) why Robert or Walter were killed. Today the BBC reported that two gay priests paid hitmen close to eighteen million pesos to kill them. Maybe the talk we hear of $400.000 hits is pura paja.
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Re: careful in medellin, from a expat who lives there
« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2012, 07:26:02 PM »
They paid 18,000,000 to have themselves killed? Or to have Walter and Robert killed?

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Re: careful in medellin, from a expat who lives there
« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2012, 08:37:05 PM »
They paid 18,000,000 to have themselves killed? Or to have Walter and Robert killed?


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Re: careful in medellin, from a expat who lives there
« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2012, 08:06:56 AM »
Walter owed money to the "guys" and was not paying back. 
 
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 How will they get their money back when Walter is killed plus they also lose money on hiring these "hitmen" ?








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Re: careful in medellin, from a expat who lives there
« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2012, 08:24:29 AM »

 How will they get their money back when Walter is killed plus they also lose money on hiring these "hitmen" ?

True, they don't get their money back from Walter........but everybody else who owes them gets the message loud and clear that the "guys" are not people you want to welsh on.

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Re: careful in medellin, from a expat who lives there
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2012, 02:06:03 PM »
Gato -

Another rhetorical question from you.  As Michaelb    stated,  and is fairly universal,  Mobsters of all types kill to keep all the other boys and girls in line.

For you to even ask that question is stupid,  I am NOT calling you stupid,  but your question was.  This is coming from a man that made a post about having his girlfriends ex-husband killed.  Why would you say something like that?  You do not think he is a "good" person,  because he transports a kid on a motor bike (if that were the case you would want literally tens of thousands of men AND women killed here in Colombia,  as the scooter is THE most common form of transportation).  Do you just type and hit send without thinking?

This thread is about being careful in Colombia.  It is NOT Kansas or Yorkshire.  The culture of violence here is decades old.  Things are better now,  but it will take generations and improvement every step of the way to get there.  Until that time,  one has to be cautious here.  Mudd said it,  and it is very true,  people here are robbed here EVERYDAY for cell phones and chump change,  it IS the reality of Colombia.

The part about how much it costs for a hit.  There was an article where a pro hitman was interviewed (from Medellin).  Just from memory (old and bad),  he was on a retainer of approx. 800,000 COP a month and was paid approx. 3,000,000 when he had to do a job.  This is pointless as I am sure that you can pay more and you can pay less.

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Re: careful in medellin, from a expat who lives there
« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2012, 11:49:04 AM »
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This thread is about being careful in Colombia.  It is NOT Kansas or Yorkshire.  The culture of violence here is decades old.  Things are better now,  but it will take generations and improvement every step of the way to get there.  Until that time,  one has to be cautious here.  Mudd said it,  and it is very true,  people here are robbed here EVERYDAY for cell phones and chump change,  it IS the reality of Colombia.The part about how much it costs for a hit.  There was an article where a pro hitman was interviewed (from Medellin).  Just from memory (old and bad),  he was on a retainer of approx. 800,000 COP a month and was paid approx. 3,000,000 when he had to do a job.  This is pointless as I am sure that you can pay more and you can pay less.


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if you know the right locals, a semi professional hit is $ 500 usd. cheap local hit $ 300, professional $ 1000.  happens every week in medellin, just most of it  is never reported.

 

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