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« on: December 24, 2016, 02:01:53 AM »
Hello all,


Just found the forum, and so far from what I have read, good information. I reserved a spot in Jamie's agency for Feb 2017, in hopes of finding a Colombian partner. I'm 35 average guy divorced and make decent money and very friendly, I have no issues with meeting women in the States, it's just the Colombian charm that gets me. Over the last few weeks I have been reading horror stories and reading negative comments about Colombians in general. I guess I am looking to the experts for advice and tips and how to be successful. Look forward to the up coming weeks, and will post a trip report when I get back.

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Re: FNG
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2016, 06:43:45 AM »
Welcome to PL. While I don't think Colombian women,  broadly generalized suit my situation,  a few guys here have done really well. I think that they took more time and gave it more thought than the guys who met a gal and in short order,  decided that she was 'the one'  they were going to marry. Once you make a decision like that,  changing your mind is difficult and you may not see red flags you would otherwise.

If you don't speak Spanish already,  picking up on some basic phrases certainly wouldn't hurt.

If I was going that way,  I'd probably use Jamie's too. You may see a lot of beautiful women,  don't exclude women who aren't in the top ten percent of the 'hot range'. The 'merely pretty'  ladies probably be lower maintenance in the long run,  not used to being treated like princesses and once you compare her to the women in your neighborhood rather than Colombia's,  chances are she's going to to be a lot more attractive to you.

I dare say that whether it's most of Asia or South, Central America, being between 35 and 40 years old increases your appeal more than being below 30 or above 50 years old.You're in a bit of a 'sweet spot' age wise. They want a settled guy who isn't so much of a 'bad dog' type, going nowhere fast, as  are many of the local guys.

That said, don't come off as weak or too soft, sweet and sensitive, (especially in that culture) as some of the women will take to that like sharks take to blood in the water, although their actions and thoughts might not make that readily clear. After all, we're to an extent actors on our best behavior while 'courting' and you don't --or won't see the truth, the whole picture, for quite a while.

If you spend money like you're a millionaire in front of her, she may assume that's how you live normally.Their perceptions of 'life USA style' often have little relation to reality. If you get to the serious point, squaring reality versus perception and being honest about your past, your strengths and weaknesses, might not be a bad idea. It's all gonna come out in the laundry anyhow.....

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Re: FNG
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2016, 09:54:38 AM »
Thanks for the insight Robert, I understand Spanish, and speak a little, my step dad was Mexican-American. I've grew up around latinos/as all my life but they were Mexican. Can anyone tell me if there is much variation from Mexican to Colombian personalities?

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Re: FNG
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2016, 10:03:24 AM »
Thanks for the insight Robert, I understand Spanish, and speak a little, my step dad was Mexican-American. I've grew up around latinos/as all my life but they were Mexican. Can anyone tell me if there is much variation from Mexican to Colombian personalities?


Yes, Mexicanas make good wives and Colombianas do not. You would be better off pursuing a Mexicana in the US. In Colombia it's all golddiggers as far as the eye can see.

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Re: FNG
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2016, 12:19:14 AM »
Wow its that bad utopia? Can you give insight as there are gold diggers in every nationality. I have read some tips from Marie, and the good info Robert gave, which is standard anywhere, but I'm guessing more intense in Colombia.


I would like to gather as much insight as I can before my trip, cause as they say "knowledge is power"! I've been in the game long enough, and have the war wounds as many of you guys have gotten as well, I just want to avoid them internationally.

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Re: FNG
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2016, 02:01:16 AM »
Wow its that bad utopia? Can you give insight as there are gold diggers in every nationality. I have read some tips from Marie, and the good info Robert gave, which is standard anywhere, but I'm guessing more intense in Colombia.


I would like to gather as much insight as I can before my trip, cause as they say "knowledge is power"! I've been in the game long enough, and have the war wounds as many of you guys have gotten as well, I just want to avoid them internationally.


UC is being facetious. There's every type of women in every single country. The trick is finding the right one for you.

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Re: FNG
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2016, 11:23:48 AM »
All kidding aside, why wouldn't you focus on a Mexican American woman living in the US already?

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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2016, 12:57:42 PM »
Honestly I don't know! Maybe it's the challenge, and knowing it will be a difficult, but rewarding journey! Maybe I just want to see what's out there beyond the US, and go on an adventure. All that and maybe it was last year when I was in Hong Kong and met this gorgeous Colombian, and just liked the charm, and her overall personality. But mostly I think it's the challenge, and hey let's not forget about the travel also.  ;)

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Re: FNG
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2016, 01:59:41 PM »
Hello all,


Just found the forum, and so far from what I have read, good information. I reserved a spot in Jamie's agency for Feb 2017, in hopes of finding a Colombian partner. I'm 35 average guy divorced and make decent money and very friendly, I have no issues with meeting women in the States, it's just the Colombian charm that gets me. Over the last few weeks I have been reading horror stories and reading negative comments about Colombians in general. I guess I am looking to the experts for advice and tips and how to be successful. Look forward to the up coming weeks, and will post a trip report when I get back.


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Re: FNG
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2016, 02:27:04 PM »
Welcome aboard and good luck in your journey.

Colombia does hace its fair share of flakes and gold diggers but not half as many as Thailand and the Philippines. Those countries are mine fields and far less poor than most Colombians.

Using Jamie's is the best choice of what's out there with regards to agencies. He has been going along time. As he always States " this is a numbers game "

Only thing different with him at the moment is he does not only have girls from Barranquilla now, they are from various cities so that could be tricky logistically

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Re: FNG
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2016, 04:11:28 PM »
Welcome aboard and good luck in your journey.

Colombia does hace its fair share of flakes and gold diggers but not half as many as Thailand and the Philippines. Those countries are mine fields and far less poor than most Colombians.

Using Jamie's is the best choice of what's out there with regards to agencies. He has been going along time. As he always States " this is a numbers game "

Only thing different with him at the moment is he does not only have girls from Barranquilla now, they are from various cities so that could be tricky logistically

Guess you've been to all those places and stepped on more than your fair share of land mines,  but IMO,  comparing the women and your chances of ending up done dirty being the same in the Philippines, 
as in Thailand is nonsense.

Unless you're predisposed to bad luck,  there's still a fair amount of good apples/mangos on the trees everywhere I feel. You just need to know how to pick em. And I dare say that with over a 100 million people there,  the Philippines has plantations full. 

Furthermore, many of them are lovely,  even tempered women with excellent educations,  speak English quite well and have great work ethic.

We sometimes put blinders on ourselves,  limiting our options and going down the same rut in the road,  with predictable outcomes.

Having been around the world a few times, I hesitate to make blanket statements and I never,  ever say: I've seen it all"
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Re: FNG
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2016, 08:46:43 PM »
Thanks all,


I'll post my trip report, and take all the good advice on this forum! Appreciate the time everyone took.

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Re: FNG
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2016, 08:29:02 AM »
IAB,

When you get to that angst ridden time of the 'final count down' where you might have a 2 or 3 women and need to make decision, if you want, run it by the peanut gallery here. You'll remain unknown personally, not that I think people here are inclined to get 'personal' and spread stuff about guys if they happen to know info, about where they come from.....

Sure it's an intensely personal decision and she could be Mother Mary MagDelaney and some guys here might say 'oye---too pious'----but albeit from the outside looking in and through a bit of a peephole at that, according to what you reveal, you might get some insights.

Anyways, we're here, feel free and use what you might choose.

Anyhow, wishing you the best and trip reports are some of the best parts of this site and I imagine they give a lot of guys who are afraid to 'get on the plane' the impetus to finally 'just do it'--so that'd be great.

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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2016, 07:51:54 PM »
Thanks RA,


I will definitely do that, just reading around the forum, I have been laughing my ass off. I was a little nervous earlier before this, but now I'm just going to go and have a blast and make the best of it. Who knows I may meet miss right, or at the very least miss right now lol. I'm sure the gallery will get their laughs from me, but hey I have thick skin anyways.

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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2016, 08:05:41 PM »
Thanks RA,


I will definitely do that, just reading around the forum, I have been laughing my ass off. I was a little nervous earlier before this, but now I'm just going to go and have a blast and make the best of it. Who knows I may meet miss right, or at the very least miss right now lol. I'm sure the gallery will get their laughs from me, but hey I have thick skin anyways.

You're quite welcome. If nothing else, you should have a great vacation. You sound sharp enough to avoid food and liquid induced sickness that's ruined many a trip. That and not letting your drink out of your sight and I can't see it being at least a great vacation, maybe more.
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Re: FNG
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2016, 05:44:40 AM »
Wow its that bad utopia? Can you give insight as there are gold diggers in every nationality. I have read some tips from Marie, and the good info Robert gave, which is standard anywhere, but I'm guessing more intense in Colombia.

I would like to gather as much insight as I can before my trip, cause as they say "knowledge is power"! I've been in the game long enough, and have the war wounds as many of you guys have gotten as well, I just want to avoid them internationally.

Welcome to the board.


Yes, Mexicanas make good wives and Colombianas do not. You would be better off pursuing a Mexicana in the US. In Colombia it's all golddiggers as far as the eye can see.

To put U.C.'s quote in context: he has been married to a Colombian woman for over 10 years (possibly closer to 15 or 20 years). He just wants to keep them all to himself.

As Benjio noted, plenty of great ladies to be found in Colombia. You just need to use common sense and screen for the good ones.

As you already know, there are gold diggers in EVERY country. You should see the piece of work I met on Tinder in my hometown of Los Angeles a few months ago. Yikes! And she was supposedly a "nice" girl from Tennessee. No thank you. I'll take a nice girl from Barranquilla all day long over that kind of B.S. 

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Re: FNG
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2016, 05:53:25 PM »
I have been married to a Colombiana for nearly 10 years now. She just graduated college and has a degree in accounting. She is definitely not a gold digger. I hit the jackpot. Yep, there are gold diggers everywhere but it takes good judgement on your part to avoid them. Good luck.
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2016, 06:02:17 PM »
Thanks HL your in my neck of the woods. Maybe one day we can compare Colombia stories over a beer or something. But I know what you mean, I was married to a gold digger for a year, and I lived with her for 3 years before! Needles to say she taught me to pay attention, and don't pedestalize a women.


I do have one question though cell phones, I'm not trying to get it stolen while I'm there. How did you guys handle that, purchase a cheap phone from there?

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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2016, 07:06:44 PM »
Thanks HL your in my neck of the woods. Maybe one day we can compare Colombia stories over a beer or something. But I know what you mean, I was married to a gold digger for a year, and I lived with her for 3 years before! Needles to say she taught me to pay attention, and don't pedestalize a women.


I do have one question though cell phones, I'm not trying to get it stolen while I'm there. How did you guys handle that, purchase a cheap phone from there?


Purchase a cheap, unlocked phone here and buy a SIM with prepaid minutes and data when you get there. There are some relatively cheap plans available in Barranquilla now.

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Re: FNG
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2016, 08:59:35 PM »
Thanks HL your in my neck of the woods. Maybe one day we can compare Colombia stories over a beer or something. But I know what you mean, I was married to a gold digger for a year, and I lived with her for 3 years before! Needles to say she taught me to pay attention, and don't pedestalize a women.


Hey I.A.B., Yeah, I just noticed you are in Orange County. Well, good thing you moved on from her and at 35 your the perfect age to head down south.

Yes, that would definitely be cool to meet up for a drink. You need 10 posts before you can send/receive Personal Messages to other members. You are almost there. So we can exchange personal info after you cross that milestone.


I do have one question though cell phones, I'm not trying to get it stolen while I'm there. How did you guys handle that, purchase a cheap phone from there?

Benjio's suggestion is probably the safest bet. However, in 2016 I traveled to Colombia two times as well as one trip to Mexico City. I brought my I-phone with me on each of those trips and I had zero problems.

If you have a very expensive smart phone probably best to leave it at home. In my case, my 2 year old I-phone 5-S was purchased for $300 two years ago and I was perfectly ok with letting it go if someone robbed me. These days smart phones are very ubiquitous in Latin America so you see people with them nearly everywhere you go. That said, I like the I-Phone 5 precisely because it is small enough to easily fit in my pocket.   


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Re: FNG
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2016, 09:15:09 PM »
Thanks for the info, come to think of it I was in Mexico City last year, and didn't even think to worry about my phone, but then again, I wasn't out and about during the day, I had work I had to do.

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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2016, 02:36:19 PM »
I have been married to a Colombiana for nearly 10 years now. She just graduated college and has a degree in accounting. She is definitely not a gold digger. I hit the jackpot. Yep, there are gold diggers everywhere but it takes good judgement on your part to avoid them. Good luck.

WOW!

Congrats to the Mrs. on earning her degree...


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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2016, 06:36:21 PM »
with your age you will have a lot less issue wih gold diggers. jus follow he 40 red flags rule, practice our spanish, take your time and u will be ok.     think wih your big head
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2016, 04:48:11 AM »
WOW!

Congrats to the Mrs. on earning her degree...


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Thanks Ray. She did great I am very proud of her.
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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2016, 11:20:45 AM »
Thanks HL your in my neck of the woods. Maybe one day we can compare Colombia stories over a beer or something. But I know what you mean, I was married to a gold digger for a year, and I lived with her for 3 years before! Needles to say she taught me to pay attention, and don't pedestalize a women.


I do have one question though cell phones, I'm not trying to get it stolen while I'm there. How did you guys handle that, purchase a cheap phone from there?


I have a Motorola with data and memo capacity. Bring your smart phone or whatever.You will need it to chat with girlson WhatsApp. I have lived in Colombia 4 years and been visiting for 12,and only had my phone robbed once,because of my own stupidity-and it was recovered later. And this included times I left it in a taxiand internet cafe.Both times returned to me.If you use your head it s not a problem.More of  an issue for the boba Colombianas.


I recommend at your age and with time and work restrictions going to Colombia,I really  recommend you look forLatinas (whatever type) in the USA if you are interested in a serious relationship.


The agencies and Cupid sites are full of Gold Diggers and prepagos. That's the reason they go there- to meet foreigners,a lot of them for money and or visas.Dont buy the story line that all Colombian men are bad, and the women are all angels.


The best Colombian women- estrata 5 or 6 ,educated and beautiful, dont go to these agencies or on the internet. They have toomany choices with the good,successful Colombian men.Better to go for an independent successful Latin woman in the US in your position.


That is one area  agree with Awesome 100%.


Way less hassle and risk looking for one already in the US than finding one in Colombia,visiting a few times,and then going through the visa processand flying her over.


I am quite busy right now,but I will PM you with my thoughts in more detail.


However,if you are gonna use an agency, Jaimie's and Maria's in Barranquilla appear to be the best ones, from what I have read here (i.e. HLs trip reportand before).
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Re: FNG
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2016, 01:50:44 PM »
I purchased a cheap basic smartphone in Colombia for like 40 bucks.  It does everything you'd need, whatsapp, phone calls, text, internet browser.  And the sim card with minutes/data cost like 5 bucks.  If you have an unlocked phone already then just buy the sim card from Claro with minutes/data and you'll spend about 5 bucks which should last you about 2 weeks.




I think you should do good with a REPUTABLE agency like Jamie's or Maria Bueno's.  Expat is right that the best way to meet women would be through people you know/social circle, but since you probably won't be there long enough for that the agency should be able to introduce you to some quality women.  I honestly believe that the agencies will be able to find you some good women who aren't "golddiggers".  Steve Koozer recently found a great woman through Jamie's agency, and his trip reports give a lot of good insight for someone in your position.




As for the advice to just find a latina in the US, it depends where you live.  Do you live in a city with many latinos?  Do you speak Spanish?  The term "latina" is a very broad generalization in the US.  There are 5th generation Mexican-American women who don't know a word of Spanish and are 500% Americanized, to women who moved to the States as teenagers who learned English in American school but are still very traditional latinas.  Then there are women who moved to the US when they were already adults and speak little to no English.  For example in my home town it would be very very easy to find latinas who are college-educated, gorgeous, sophisticated, and are dying to get married and start having babies, but that's not the case in every city, especially if you live in Little Rock or Nashville, or Salt Lake City for example.




Anyway, I think you'll do fine in Colombia.  I say just have fun and use common sense.  Chemistry is everything and you should KNOW when you have a good connection with a sincere woman, you'll be able to FEEL it.


One thing to keep in mind is while you're getting to know a woman try to get a feel for her personality and think how she will behave once things have move on from the "honeymoon stage".  Does she seem very quick to agree with whatever you say or suggest?  Does she have considerable mood swings?  How is her relationship with family and friends?  How much importance does she put into material things like clothes, jewelry, cars, houses, purses?  Does she order the most expensive thing on the menu?  How does she treat waiters/waitresses at a restaurant?


And whatever you do, DO NOT be like Hector Lavoe and verbally ask her "how do you feel about premarital sex?".  Absolutely nothing good can come from asking a woman that.  If it's meant to happen it will happen, and if/when it does happen you'll know if it felt "right" or if it felt "artificial", then you can proceed accordingly.

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Re: FNG
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2016, 08:51:01 PM »
I purchased a cheap basic smartphone in Colombia for like 40 bucks.  It does everything you'd need, whatsapp, phone calls, text, internet browser.  And the sim card with minutes/data cost like 5 bucks.  If you have an unlocked phone already then just buy the sim card from Claro with minutes/data and you'll spend about 5 bucks which should last you about 2 weeks.




I think you should do good with a REPUTABLE agency like Jamie's or Maria Bueno's.  Expat is right that the best way to meet women would be through people you know/social circle, but since you probably won't be there long enough for that the agency should be able to introduce you to some quality women.  I honestly believe that the agencies will be able to find you some good women who aren't "golddiggers".  Steve Koozer recently found a great woman through Jamie's agency, and his trip reports give a lot of good insight for someone in your position.




As for the advice to just find a latina in the US, it depends where you live.  Do you live in a city with many latinos?  Do you speak Spanish?  The term "latina" is a very broad generalization in the US.  There are 5th generation Mexican-American women who don't know a word of Spanish and are 500% Americanized, to women who moved to the States as teenagers who learned English in American school but are still very traditional latinas.  Then there are women who moved to the US when they were already adults and speak little to no English.  For example in my home town it would be very very easy to find latinas who are college-educated, gorgeous, sophisticated, and are dying to get married and start having babies, but that's not the case in every city, especially if you live in Little Rock or Nashville, or Salt Lake City for example.




Anyway, I think you'll do fine in Colombia.  I say just have fun and use common sense.  Chemistry is everything and you should KNOW when you have a good connection with a sincere woman, you'll be able to FEEL it.


One thing to keep in mind is while you're getting to know a woman try to get a feel for her personality and think how she will behave once things have move on from the "honeymoon stage".  Does she seem very quick to agree with whatever you say or suggest?  Does she have considerable mood swings?  How is her relationship with family and friends?  How much importance does she put into material things like clothes, jewelry, cars, houses, purses?  Does she order the most expensive thing on the menu?  How does she treat waiters/waitresses at a restaurant?


And whatever you do, DO NOT be like Hector Lavoe and verbally ask her "how do you feel about premarital sex?".  Absolutely nothing good can come from asking a woman that.  If it's meant to happen it will happen, and if/when it does happen you'll know if it felt "right" or if it felt "artificial", then you can proceed accordingly.

Suprisingly even, excellent post, save for the dig at Hector, who volunteered himself that asking was an uncharacteristically bone headed move for him. But it probably gave some members, pause about pushing the 'sex question' too early. He didn't have to admit he said it--that took true grit, while some people here act like they can do no wrong, that they're 'the man', which more often than not when people say and act like they're such, they're more like laughing stock.

I don't think that saying: "DO NOT be like Hector..." is the right way to put it, as that's not how he seems to 'be', either. But aside from that dig, a lot of good points, all covered by others here previously, but well put into one post here.
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« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2016, 09:51:36 PM »
Suprisingly even, excellent post, save for the dig at Hector, who volunteered himself that asking was an uncharacteristically bone headed move for him. But it probably gave some members, pause about pushing the 'sex question' too early. He didn't have to admit he said it--that took true grit, while some people here act like they can do no wrong, that they're 'the man', which more often than not when people say and act like they're such, they're more like laughing stock.

I don't think that saying: "DO NOT be like Hector..." is the right way to put it, as that's not how he seems to 'be', either. But aside from that dig, a lot of good points, all covered by others here previously, but well put into one post here.




Not meant as a "dig" at HL.  He definitely admitted it was a bonehead move, which it was.  I could probably pull up a hundred bonehead moves of my own that I've posted on this board.  We've all got to post our bonehead moves along with the smart moves so as to give info that we can all learn from.  But I thought it was worth reiterating that it's a big no no to ask a woman that question, especially a woman you're just barely starting to get to know.  I mean it may have cost HL a relationship with a great woman.  It's still very valuable info for other guys who are dating trying to find a serious relationship.  I think that HL is smart enough and thick skinned enough to not get his feelings hurt by my thoughts on his admittedly bonehead move.

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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2016, 10:45:10 PM »

And whatever you do, DO NOT be like Hector Lavoe and verbally ask her "how do you feel about premarital sex?".  Absolutely nothing good can come from asking a woman that.  If it's meant to happen it will happen, and if/when it does happen you'll know if it felt "right" or if it felt "artificial", then you can proceed accordingly.



I didn't see the post where Hector said he asked a woman "how do you feel about premarital sex?".


Was there a reason to ask the question? Did she do or say something that made him wonder if she had a problem with sex?


I mean my default assumption is she is good to go unless something comes up that would lead me to think otherwise.


It took me months to get a friend of mine to stop asking girls at the end of the night if they wanted to go back to his place.....I kept telling him he was damn lucking to be young and good looking or he would never get laid. jajaja


I just get in the cab and tell the taxis driver to take me to my place....if she I'm with doesn't want to go she is free to speak up.... but I never ever ask a chick if she wants to go back to my place ever. When I had a car I would just get in and drive home and my date was coming with me even if she said she wanted to go home....I would tell them that they can call a cab from my place or get one on the street but that I was driving back to my place. At least half the time they would change their minds and stay after I got home.

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Re: FNG
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2017, 01:41:26 PM »

I didn't see the post where Hector said he asked a woman "how do you feel about premarital sex?".


Yes, guilty as charged. I was on a first date with a girl I met through AFA in Barranquilla. She was actually pretty cute. It was a breakfast date as she had to go to work later that day, so I was not about to bring her back to my place.

The only reason I broached the topic was she mentioned she is a Baptist and attends church regularly. I met a cute girl in Nicaragua whose family is evangelical and her mother preached to her that pre-marital sex is immoral. With limited time in Barranquilla I wanted to find out fast if this girl had similar views.

As I mentioned in my trip report, I thought I might have scared her away with that question because she did not make herself available for a second date.

The good news is she actually contacted me the other day and said she wants to continue to get to know me. So despite my bone headed question I still have a shot with her... 

 

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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2017, 01:44:32 PM »

Not meant as a "dig" at HL.  He definitely admitted it was a bonehead move, which it was.

Yeah, no offense taken.

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« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2017, 03:27:09 PM »

The good news is she actually contacted me the other day and said she wants to continue to get to know me. So despite my bone headed question I still have a shot with her...


That's good news.  Don't screw it up again lol.




I recall in another post you said something about "We pressure ourselves too much on these trips. We feel the clock ticking and it is like we have to make something happen before we are heading back to the airport. I know because I have been there too."

You seriously need to speak for yourself on that one bro.  I've never felt like I pressure myself or feel the clock ticking, or I need to make anything happen before heading back to the airport.  Sorry but that screams of desperation and maybe you are just extremely "hard up", that's the only conclusion I can come up with.

I think you need to take some notes from Calipro so you can alleviate some of that "pressure", because it seems to be working against you and not in your favor.
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« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2017, 05:01:17 PM »

I recall in another post you said something about "We pressure ourselves too much on these trips. We feel the clock ticking and it is like we have to make something happen before we are heading back to the airport. I know because I have been there too."

You seriously need to speak for yourself on that one bro.  I've never felt like I pressure myself or feel the clock ticking, or I need to make anything happen before heading back to the airport.  Sorry but that screams of desperation and maybe you are just extremely "hard up", that's the only conclusion I can come up with.

I think you need to take some notes from Calipro so you can alleviate some of that "pressure", because it seems to be working against you and not in your favor.

Haha. Yep, that was in reply your post about not getting the one night stand with the Venezuelan chick when you were in Cucuta. So maybe YOU need to take some pointers from Calipro.

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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2017, 05:21:21 PM »
Haha. Yep, that was in reply your post about not getting the one night stand with the Venezuelan chick when you were in Cucuta. So maybe YOU need to take some pointers from Calipro.


Jaja!  Touche!  Buuut, that was some chick I just randomly bumped into.  I wasn't in Cucuta on any mission to hook up with any women.  I was just hanging out in a couple bars because I was bored and didn't have anything else to do.

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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2017, 07:33:36 PM »
Great thanks for the advice guys. Good tip on taking the taxi back to my room, and then letting them decide from there, I will keep that in mind.


So been whatsapp messaging a couple woman from outside of BAQ, and I have been noticing how they hint there sad, and then mention the reasons like not having money to do stuff. I have just been ignoring those comments, or I would just say "that sucks". Is this normally how it, indirectly hinting? Although I did have one asking flat out to borrow money, which was pretty funny.

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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2017, 01:07:12 AM »

So been whatsapp messaging a couple woman from outside of BAQ, and I have been noticing how they hint there sad, and then mention the reasons like not having money to do stuff. I have just been ignoring those comments, or I would just say "that sucks". Is this normally how it, indirectly hinting? Although I did have one asking flat out to borrow money, which was pretty funny.

Where are you meeting these women? On Colombian Cupid? or through Jamie's agency?

For me personally I would run like wind from any girl that even hints at asking for money (especially ladies I have never met in person).

The sob stories are a red flag. That said, I think the way you are handling it is right. Just pretend you didn't hear/read it and/or briefly acknowledge it (e.g., "That sucks") and move on.

Is it normal or common? I've definitely read stories on P.L. before that are similar to what you are describing. Also, heard in a P.M. from another member about one hot chick who told him she had an offer from another guy from Cupid who offered to buy her a condo in her hometown! So yeah, some of these women hear about the "rich" gringos and will ask/expect crazy stuff.   

That said, I've been on and off the "cupid" sites for the last several years. I don't ever recall getting asked directly for money and I am sure I'd remember that. I also don't recall getting sob stories either.


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« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2017, 08:58:12 AM »
Great thanks for the advice guys. Good tip on taking the taxi back to my room, and then letting them decide from there, I will keep that in mind.


So been whatsapp messaging a couple woman from outside of BAQ, and I have been noticing how they hint there sad, and then mention the reasons like not having money to do stuff. I have just been ignoring those comments, or I would just say "that sucks". Is this normally how it, indirectly hinting? Although I did have one asking flat out to borrow money, which was pretty funny.


The one that directly asked for a loan....I would cut off contact with.


The ones that just complain about not having money....I would just ignore....But you can't really hold it against them because they complain among themselves about not having money all the time. So to them that is just a normal topic of conversation. jajaja


I would say just avoid poor chicks altogether....but if you don't speak spanish and or can't spend a lot of time in Colombia who else are you going to meet.


I mean just ask yourself.....what type of girl is going to marry a guy she doesn't know well, probably can't communicate with well and move away from her family, friends and everything she has ever known.


You got it....poor girls and damn unbelievably poor girls. jajaja




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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2017, 02:13:49 PM »
Yea the one that flat out asked to borrow, I don't talk to her. Jamie told me just to block her. The other one it's supradioc that she complains. All are from Jamie's, that are outside of BAQ. The cupid I haven't messaged anyone yet waiting til about 2 weeks before to start messaging.


Calipro true, my Spanish is decent, I don't speak it, well because I never really had too but I understand it. People just assume I don't understand it. All the years I have lived on a border town paid off very well! Hahaha

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« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2017, 06:51:23 PM »
It's the real religious ones who while it might take longer, once you've gotten over that bridge and 'tripped the light fantastic'----- they're often the horniest, even most open minded and I dare say more open to 'kink'  than chicks who give it up almost before you get them in the car. And they may consider your performance in bed to be an obligation and treat you likewise, giving their very best, staying in shape, etc.

Been with enough Asian babes who were absolutey crushed if they felt they didn't satisfy me completely, to the point where while they certainly enjoyed 'the ride', they were totally putting what I wanted FIRST before their own satisfaction.

Latinas have usually been great lovers, but from my experience, they often want to get as good as they give------there's a difference in there somewhere. And I'm not saying they're unfair, just different..

I've never 'paid for play', but I know guys who know where to go in Asia where there are hookers who have such great work ethic, that if they don't completely blow your mind (amongst other things) that they will not accept any payment. NADA thing, and might even offer you a 'rain check' to boot.They take it real personal, unless the guy's a total [snip].

But women who are really religious doesn't necessarily mean they're dead set against premarital sex or won't want plenty after marriage.

Case in point: Jewish girls. I've had some rodeos with Jewish babes. Totally uninhibited chicks, including wealthy "Jewish American Princesses"(JAPs) from the finest Universities, who taught me a lot of sexual moves and beyond that, how to set up a white hot atmosphere, working up to incredibly hot, very creative sex.

Never forget that the body's largest sex organ in the BRAIN.

I think a big part of it is a lot of nice Jewish guys are a bit inhibited and don't want to seem too forward. They sort of have their own 'courtship rituals' and letting out all the stops in the bedroom with each other isn't high up the 'kosher' list. But a guy like me, a clean, fit, reasonably intelligent and we'll mannered Catholic Irish Italian? I'm a movable feast and they're HUNGRY!

I didn't count all the religions and races of women I've had relations with, but most Christian, (inc. Eastern Orthodox) Islamic and Judaic, Hindu and other Indian, as well as African religions have women who at one time or another I've enjoyed intimacy with. So many women, so little time. Glad I've sired a couple of educated, handsome and charming sons (whilst married) who will likely make the human genome a bit better off themselves.

For the long term, Asian  women suit me best, as if you choose right and as age inevitably takes away some of your virility, chances of them staying faithful and giving seem better to me than women from some other cultures.

But for sheer heart attack level, pull out all the stops sex, get me to the bar in NYC or Chicago's Ritz Carlton Hotel, let me pulhleeeze hook up with a 29 year old Jewish minx and if I die in bed, you can be damn sure I'll die a happy man. Anne, Becky, Ruthie, Elizabeth..... ---I doubt if you're reading this, but I still love ya!!!
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