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Title: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on February 19, 2018, 03:34:53 PM
I know this forum split from the Russian one back in the day.  I think I started reading in 2005 and posting in 07. With smart phones this agency thing has passed or evolved from catalogs, to 5k plans, to connect direct for free.  It's too bad this forum hasnt evolved at all as I did use it as a resource a decade ago when I was the young guy asking about costa rica.

Ive heard of this new sugar baby craze and I think it could help guys stay active with women while planning trips overseas. A lot of guys are having success even just as middle and upper middle class without actually dropping much coin. Before sending anyone down south I almost suggest working a little game on those sites to blow off a little steam and feel that male advantage. Anyways hello to the half dozen still here.  ;D
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 19, 2018, 05:22:17 PM
I know this forum split from the Russian one back in the day.  I think I started reading in 2005 and posting in 07. With smart phones this agency thing has passed or evolved from catalogs, to 5k plans, to connect direct for free.  It's too bad this forum hasnt evolved at all as I did use it as a resource a decade ago when I was the young guy asking about costa rica.

Ive heard of this new sugar baby craze and I think it could help guys stay active with women while planning trips overseas. A lot of guys are having success even just as middle and upper middle class without actually dropping much coin. Before sending anyone down south I almost suggest working a little game on those sites to blow off a little steam and feel that male advantage. Anyways hello to the half dozen still here.  ;D

There's been some posts here lately about basically being a 'sugar daddy' for some cute young babes just south of the US border in Mexico. 'Tuition Assistance'-- call it what you will, but various iterations, mostly in S American nations, aren't new either. 

A little on-line interaction is one thing, but I think when you factor in distance and try to apply the method in Asia, Eastern Europe, and/or former USSR nations, the travel costs, just for starters, then maintainance VS in person time,  make it less attractive. "Much coin" is relative to each individual's income and willingness to spend given their likely expectations. If going, long travel times acc. to locale. I was sweet on a babe from Kazakhstan,  and it was a two day trip.

But Chinese women, as well as Eastern European and former USSR nation's, still leave me wary. China's improved a little. I have just generally found them in the east a bit too fickle, cold and calculating. Smart yes, but with edginess, that often comes from present and past effects of communism, tough socio-economic conditions, guys who treat women there badly and a lot of male/female social dysfunction, crime, drug (not a big drug abuse issue in China) and alcohol abuse. Been there, done that--had some hot babes start off like blazes, only to disappear cold, probably when a bigger, better fish in their opinion, came along.

Good to see you back, BCC-- the irrational,  flamatory nature of this place has lessened  and there are occasionally some good threads nowadays.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on February 20, 2018, 10:52:15 AM
There's been some posts here lately about basically being a 'sugar daddy' for some cute young babes just south of the US border in Mexico. 'Tuition Assistance'-- call it what you will, but various iterations, mostly in S American nations, aren't new either. 

A little on-line interaction is one thing, but I think when you factor in distance and try to apply the method in Asia, Eastern Europe, and/or former USSR nations, the travel costs, just for starters, then maintainance VS in person time,  make it less attractive. "Much coin" is relative to each individual's income and willingness to spend given their likely expectations. If going, long travel times acc. to locale. I was sweet on a babe from Kazakhstan,  and it was a two day trip.

But Chinese women, as well as Eastern European and former USSR nation's, still leave me wary. China's improved a little. I have just generally found them in the east a bit too fickle, cold and calculating. Smart yes, but with edginess, that often comes from present and past effects of communism, tough socio-economic conditions, guys who treat women there badly and a lot of male/female social dysfunction, crime, drug (not a big drug abuse issue in China) and alcohol abuse. Been there, done that--had some hot babes start off like blazes, only to disappear cold, probably when a bigger, better fish in their opinion, came along.

Good to see you back, BCC-- the irrational,  flamatory nature of this place has lessened  and there are occasionally some good threads nowadays.

Yea I remember posting something completely insane just to get mods to be mods around here. If this place is about travelers for travelers more like it was in the beginning that's just great.

I just wanted guys in between trips to know that this sugar craze is something they can take advantage of. I know a guy that got no response from a younger american girl on a dating site. He found her on the seeking site and she was super nice.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 21, 2018, 10:37:54 AM

I just wanted guys in between trips to know that this sugar craze is something they can take advantage of. I know a guy that got no response from a younger american girl on a dating site. He found her on the seeking site and she was super nice.



Why only in between trips.


I know a lot of guys that are having a great time with women they met on www.seekingarrangement.com and tinder while in Colombia.


I know a guy that setup a long term live in relationship with a hot Paisa that he met on Colombian Cupid. But there is a lot of fishing around on CC if you are looking for a live in type relationship. On the seekingarrangement site almost all women are open to that kind of arrangement.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 21, 2018, 03:31:44 PM
Most important thing is honesty. I wonder if you can find a truly hones.persom on these sites.

And "true love"..well.forget that one...if it reallly5 exists
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 21, 2018, 04:02:32 PM
Most important thing is honesty. I wonder if you can find a truly hones.persom on these sites.

And "true love"..well.forget that one...if it reallly5 exists

Sounds like the scenario's simpler, more transparent than most dating sites. Narrower focus probably leads to more honesty, as you're obviously expected to pay for their company, with just the exent of 'benefits' to be determined.

At least the great facade is opened up.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 23, 2018, 03:07:10 PM
Sounds like the scenario's simpler, more transparent than most dating sites. Narrower focus probably leads to more honesty, as you're obviously expected to pay for their company, with just the exent of 'benefits' to be determined.

At least the great facade is opened up.



Thst part is honest..but these types of arrangements can soon lead to.manipulation.She promises sex 3 times a week for such and such..only ends up.once a month and she demands a lot more..and sleeps around with a bunch of other guys

No.matter how you want to dice it, label it whatever, a ho is still a ho
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 23, 2018, 08:02:04 PM
Thst part is honest..but these types of arrangements can soon lead to.manipulation.She promises sex 3 times a week for such and such..only ends up.once a month and she demands a lot more..and sleeps around with a bunch of other guys

No.matter how you want to dice it, label it whatever, a ho is still a ho


Who promises sex? jajaja
Who even discusses sex when they live with someone. You just do it and you do it when ever you like.
For God's sake you live in Colombia and you still have women controlling you?
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 23, 2018, 08:28:57 PM
Thst part is honest..but these types of arrangements can soon lead to.manipulation.She promises sex 3 times a week for such and such..only ends up.once a month and she demands a lot more..and sleeps around with a bunch of other guys

No.matter how you want to dice it, label it whatever, a ho is still a ho

At least it's not that schmaltzty bullsh!t like on the cupid, match com , e haram sites, where you mark vague, antiquated crap like looking for  'pen pal', 'friend' , 'marriage etc.

 But I have to admit you're right. Namely, regardless of how you set people up to meet, as long as cats scratch and dogs bite, men and women will play each other, working angles, change, cheat and lie and most women will expect more and more as time goes by, maybe giving less in return.

It's peanuts for platinum in our case, but if I didn't get my wife something, (and typically more than a card) for Valentine's Day, our Anniversary and Birthday,  I'd  be in for some seriously cold vibes. Not that aside from Christmas, do the women feel they need to spring for much for anniversaries or Valentine's day. But to my annoyance,  my wife INSISTS on making a huge deal out of my, out of any family member's B Day. She even remembers all my friends and family's b days for me.

No matter how much I tell my wife to low key my birthday,  she slyly pulls it off, planning it like it's fecking D Day. I swear, there could be an 8.0 earthquake and a cat.5 hurricaine on a Sunday, and she'd find a damn cake, candles and card. Seriously.

But that-- holiday gifts, are all pretty accepted, charted territory,  male- female wise. It's just different, a gawd awful burn, when you date or dare say marry a woman, thinking she's humble and unmaterialistic (like they often claim)and then all too often she turns into a different animal, a cold, conniving gold digger, less interested in you and more interested in what you can buy, give her materially.

And the older style match sites leave a lot more room for the wiley women to run their games than these newer 'sugar daddy' sites, where at least the guy knows up front there's an angle, a 'pay to stay, more to play' angle involved...

But hell, in the end, like Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead (saw them many times) sang:
The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 23, 2018, 08:38:21 PM

Who promises sex? jajaja
Who even discusses sex when they live with someone. You just do it and you do it when ever you like.


If you're married or even if not, but living with a woman and have children, you're for sure gonna find out ho w that changes things....
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 23, 2018, 10:14:33 PM
If you're married or even if not, but living with a woman and have children, you're for sure gonna find out ho w that changes things....


That is a much different scenario than having a live in girlfriend that you met on seeking arrangement. Or even if it is a live in girlfriend that you met by some other means.


I mean if you are in a relationship and your girlfriend isn't meeting your physical needs...isn't that pretty much the definition of the end.


 Who in their right mind lives with a chick that doesn't put out and sees other guys. LMFAO
Even if you aren't paying for it out right.


Only Expat can dream up these pathetic scenarios. Or maybe they aren't dreams but rather is his personal reality.



Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on February 24, 2018, 02:00:30 AM
All I am saying is to look at those sites between trips and to just get that the male is the prize feeling while you are in the states. Im obviously not suggesting getting serious with women doing this. If tinder was around 10 years ago I could have killed it. But if you are middle aged and want college chicks that's how you do it in the usa these days.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: ignorante on February 24, 2018, 10:12:12 AM
If you're married or even if not, but living with a woman and have children, you're for sure gonna find out ho w that changes things....
  Hasn't for me . . .
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 24, 2018, 10:45:39 AM
  Hasn't for me . . .

How are you pulling that off, if I may ask?
Have kids? If so, tied up in the basement?
Big split bedroom house, with a nanny? LOL

My 1st marriage, we did ourselves in. Between us working opposite shifts full time, we we're heavily involved with their  schools. Then, we did Boy Scouts, swimming lessons, music lessons, chess tournaments, easily half a dozen different seasonal sports,  Taekwondo....

Took tons of trips, from Asia to Alaska, Key West to Canada, all the national parks, so much more.

Typically winter, a few weeks in Key West, relaxing at home, but also scuba, snorkling, deep sea fishing, then summer time, if nothing else, Michigan's Great Lakes.

Honestly, there was a whole lot of fun, but a lot of logistics and eventually there was nothing left for 'us'-- it was about the kids and trying to get enough rest.

Looking back, I wish we all had more 'down time' and in a world where if the kids aren't actively doing something with their family, they're often addicted to video games, I think 'boredom' is desirable sometimes and is highly under rated.

Everybody thought we had it all, life on a string, but unbeknownst, behind the scenes, our tank had run out of gas.

Probably the traveling was the best education for our kids. Despite our split, they've grown up very well, worldly, well educated and sophisticated, yet humble and down to earth.

But  for a while, for my ex and I, there wasn't a lot of time for sex. I think if you asked most couples, most counselors, they'd agree that marriage and kids typically puts a damper on sex life compared to before marriage.

I guess you're one of the lucky few who are different, no surprise there, as our post, counterposts tend to be at odds, which is all good, as different perspectives and opinions are probably what this site needs.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: mambocowboy on February 24, 2018, 11:11:24 AM
How are you pulling that off, if I may ask?
Have kids? If so, tied up in the basement?
Big split bedroom house, with a nanny? LOL

My 1st marriage, we did ourselves in. Between us working opposite shifts full time, we we're heavily involved with their  schools. Then, we did Boy Scouts, swimming lessons, music lessons, chess tournaments, easily half a dozen different seasonal sports,  Taekwondo....

Took tons of trips, from Asia to Alaska, Key West to Canada, all the national parks, so much more.

Typically winter, a few weeks in Key West, relaxing at home, but also scuba, snorkling, deep sea fishing, then summer time, if nothing else, Michigan's Great Lakes.

Honestly, there was a whole lot of fun, but a lot of logistics and eventually there was nothing left for 'us'-- it was about the kids and trying to get enough rest.

Looking back, I wish we all had more 'down time' and in a world where if the kids aren't actively doing something with their family, they're often addicted to video games, I think 'boredom' is desirable sometimes and is highly under rated.

Everybody thought we had it all, life on a string, but unbeknownst, behind the scenes, our tank had run out of gas.

Probably the traveling was the best education for our kids. Despite our split, they've grown up very well, worldly, well educated and sophisticated, yet humble and down to earth.

But  for a while, for my ex and I, there wasn't a lot of time for sex. I think if you asked most couples, most counselors, they'd agree that marriage and kids typically puts a damper on sex life compared to before marriage.

I guess you're one of the lucky few who are different, no surprise there, as our post, counterposts tend to be at odds, which is all good, as different perspectives and opinions are probably what this site needs.
Kids do put a damper on intimacy. I think in the case of Colombianas, though, generally speaking they have voracious sexual appetites...
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on February 24, 2018, 12:49:54 PM

Why only in between trips.

I know a lot of guys that are having a great time with women they met on www.seekingarrangement.com and tinder while in Colombia.

I know a guy that setup a long term live in relationship with a hot Paisa that he met on Colombian Cupid. But there is a lot of fishing around on CC if you are looking for a live in type relationship. On the seekingarrangement site almost all women are open to that kind of arrangement.

I am sure that is much cheaper in Colombia.

Just looked at the seekingarrangment site for the first time.

In their profiles the women can select their desired "Lifestyle" range...in essence her desired support level.

From Low to High it goes like this:

Negotiable: No set expectation
Minimal: Up to $1,000 per month
Practical: $1,000 to $3,000 per month
Moderate: $3,000 to $5,000 per month
Substantial: Up to $10,000 per month
High: More than $10,000 per month

And I recently had an attractive 29 year old local Latina interested in dating me with no money changing hands...just a legit relationship as far as I could tell. She gave me plenty of chances but I didn't bite. I need to have my head examined.

Nothing against that site or anyone finding what they want...but it only drives home how fleeting and rare genuine attraction is.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: buencamino3 on February 24, 2018, 02:27:12 PM
That "minimum" (close to 3 million pesos) would be pretty high end for a barrio girl from strata 1 or 2. Of course if she snags the right gringo she might get five million or more.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: mambocowboy on February 24, 2018, 06:16:58 PM
That "minimum" (close to 3 million pesos) would be pretty high end for a barrio girl from strata 1 or 2. Of course if she snags the right gringo she might get five million or more.
The average Colombian  makes 800 mil pesos monthly so that's alot....
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 25, 2018, 07:06:18 AM

That is a much different scenario than having a live in girlfriend that you met on seeking arrangement. Or even if it is a live in girlfriend that you met by some other means.


I mean if you are in a relationship and your girlfriend isn't meeting your physical needs...isn't that pretty much the definition of the end.


 Who in their right mind lives with a chick that doesn't put out and sees other guys. LMFAO
Even if you aren't paying for it out right.


Only Expat can dream up these pathetic scenarios. Or maybe they aren't dreams but rather is his personal reality.

If anybody thinks that a girl you have to.pay ..up front..to be with you is gonna be faithful to you..they gotta be on some kind of drugs.

These type of girls just arent the "faithful" type..
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: mudd on February 25, 2018, 08:30:25 AM
this reminds me of a wedding i went to last night.  havent been to one in years since for the most part,  colombians dont get married anymore, only gringos to much younger girls lol and soon divorced


 but back to the subject, as calipro stated many times, '" why there men get controlled by colombian women, when their are so many available, its incredible," which is true


 but the reason so many women here are available, is because nobody here  for the most part, stays in a relationship for more than a few months. i know very few women under 30 who have been in a relationship longer than 5 months. most last between 2 to 3 months.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 25, 2018, 10:53:30 AM
If anybody thinks that a girl you have to.pay ..up front..to be with you is gonna be faithful to you..they gotta be on some kind of drugs.

These type of girls just arent the "faithful" type..

I think guys that are worried about their chicks messing around
Should use the same tactics on them that they use on us

Ever notice how your chick often times wants to have sex right when you are ready to walk out the door

Well you should bang them hard before they leave  the house as well
Be a little brutal so her pussy is a little sore before she goes out jajaja

Maybe it won’t stop her but their will certainly be less incentive

A friend of mine asked me once if I thought my girlfriend was faithful
And i told him I don’t know for sure
I guess that depends on how many times a day she likes to have sex
Because I’m tapping that thing about three times a day jajaja

The thing is when you live with someone and nether of you work
Just exactly is it that she could even cheat on you even if she wanted to

That is why most women that agree to live with you usually like having sex with you

Well that has been my experience anyway



Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 25, 2018, 02:53:22 PM
If anybody thinks that a girl you have to.pay ..up front..to be with you is gonna be faithful to you..they gotta be on some kind of drugs.

These type of girls just arent the "faithful" type..

Once a woman " plays for pay" even ONCE,  it changes her brain forever. Where sex was once an act of passion and pleasure, even the occasional free, promiscuous 'quickie'---forever after, it's also now a "commodity". Thereafter when things get rough, when money gets tight or she just wants something real pricey, the realization that she can sell her hot sex for cold hard cash, will forever be an option hard wired into her whorable mind.

That's why I used to grit my teeth seeing guys, some of them decent looking fellows with a lot going for their future, a lot of honorably serving military, taking up with whores, 'bar girls' who sell 'short time' and 'long time' and these guys think they're gonna marry them and 'all that' is somehow gonna change.

It's not really drugs or alcohol--they're blinded by beauty and pussy....
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 25, 2018, 03:14:01 PM
Once a woman " plays for pay" even ONCE,  it changes her brain forever. Where sex was once an act of passion and pleasure, even the occasional free, promiscuous 'quickie'---forever after, it's also now a "commodity". Thereafter when things get rough, when money gets tight or she just wants something real pricey, the realization that she can sell her hot sex for cold hard cash, will forever be an option hard wired into her whorable mind.

That's why I used to grit my teeth seeing guys, some of them decent looking fellows with a lot going for their future, a lot of honorably serving military, taking up with whores, 'bar girls' who sell 'short time' and 'long time' and these guys think they're gonna marry them and 'all that' is somehow gonna change.

It's not really drugs or alcohol--they're blinded by beauty and pussy....

Probably some truth to all that but it is a moot point

Very little reason for a guy to get married in Colombia and absolutely no reason to get married in the states

When you are renting it is very easy to move if you  don’t like where you are living

I just think it is funny that some guys put it out there that it is some how possible to pay a chick to live with you and still some how have problems getting laid jajajaj

I see much bigger problems for our society than guys just not being interested in marriage
We you have a lot of men that just aren’t respected the way they were in the past
You start to see where men no longer want to put their lives no the line for women and children that they don’t know

That what I believe might be part of the reason those cops on Florida didnt go into the school to confront the shooter
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: benjio on February 25, 2018, 03:39:52 PM
Once a woman " plays for pay" even ONCE,  it changes her brain forever. Where sex was once an act of passion and pleasure, even the occasional free, promiscuous 'quickie'---forever after, it's also now a "commodity". Thereafter when things get rough, when money gets tight or she just wants something real pricey, the realization that she can sell her hot sex for cold hard cash, will forever be an option hard wired into her whorable mind.

That's why I used to grit my teeth seeing guys, some of them decent looking fellows with a lot going for their future, a lot of honorably serving military, taking up with whores, 'bar girls' who sell 'short time' and 'long time' and these guys think they're gonna marry them and 'all that' is somehow gonna change.

It's not really drugs or alcohol--they're blinded by beauty and pussy....


Man I could write a book based on this post involving just my experiences in Brazil with guys falling for hookers. VERY WELL SAID!!!!



Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 25, 2018, 03:50:57 PM

Man I could write a book based on this post involving just my experiences in Brazil with guys falling for hookers. VERY WELL SAID!!!!

I know one guy in Medellin that has lived with his live in hooker so long she could easily claim to be his common law wife

It’s a good thing he owns very little in Colombia
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 25, 2018, 04:34:34 PM
Probably some truth to all that but it is a moot point

Very little reason for a guy to get married in Colombia and absolutely no reason to get married in the states

When you are renting it is very easy to move if you  don’t like where you are living

I just think it is funny that some guys put it out there that it is some how possible to pay a chick to live with you and still some how have problems getting laid jajajaj

Well........I think it's true that married or single, here or there, you're gonna see that the guy is the one, compared to the woman, who monetarily 'pays' or at least 'pays more' for everything.  I just happened to be lucky a few times that I had GFs who were very well off and generous about it. That's unusual and can change. My first wife, before we married would 'borrow' my car and miraculously, it'd come back  washed, detailed and with 4 new michelin tires. So I'd never miss a call, she got me cordless and mobile phone 'gifts' before the devices were even popular, LOL. I'd tell her to slow down, not spend like crazy, but she was on a mission.

We bought a nice house before we married too, but it was all a trap. I still don't know how she did it all, but she was an illegal alien, having over stayed her work visa as a top flight critical care RN. Of course, marrying me, fixed 'all that'!

14 years later, we were fighting over a sizable pot of money, investments and other things and even though I TURNED down her having to pay ME some child support as I had the kids more than her, she's STILL bitter about money. I feel sorry about her still carrying that hot stone of a grudge around in her gut and she looks 20 years older than me for it. I'm retiring and she's working two jobs. She's never dated, not even once, since we split. Sad, as people used to ask her if she was a model.

I could've married into a whole lot of money a few times and these were a attractive women, with agreeable personalities and more,  but shall we say, overall the 'company wasn't worth it'.

Even if you're not married to a woman in the USA, if there are kids, and amazingly, sometimes even if there are kids who aren't even biologically yours, but you've been with them for years, the courts are gonna find you and you will pay child support, or go to jail, lose your job, etc.

More and more, the woman knows, or the judge will even suggest, that child support be written into the decree to continue past age 18, as long as the kids are in college, vocational school, etc. Few kids get out in 4 years anymore. Add the possibility of grad school and it can be a lonnngggg time paying.

Used to be guys were counting down the days until the kids were 18 and he was off the child support hook.

Yea, the whole legal system is stacked in the woman's favor in the USA and that's different than some other countries. Outside the USA, a guy's probably more likely to have the upper hand in deciding his own freedoms and financial obligations in relationships.

And it's not just a South, Latin American 'thing'. At least as much so in the Scandinavian countries, 'marriage' is becoming an an anachronism. In other parts of Europe and 1st world Asian nations, the age people getting married (if they even decide to) is a lot older than it used to be. But still, you need to be careful in a lot of places.

Sweden's Stieg Larrson , one of the best selling authors of all time, even years after his death, left  fortune of at least 40 million USD. His common law wife of thirty years, according to Swedish law, wasn't 'legally' entitled to a single cent of that fortune ---errr 'krona' from his estate. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/stieg-larsson-girlfriend-eva-gabrielsson-rages-memoir/story?id=12950542

I see things changing, even in the USA. Things are even changing for people who DO get married.

I know a number of younger people who aren't 'into' the big family get together, full blown 'wedding', with Bachelor, Bachelorette, parties, wedding rehersals, rehearsal dinners and 'all that'.

For one, if you take the thousands of bucks all that costs and invest it in the market, you're gonna be a lot better off 30, 40 years later, when you retire.

If you don't get married, you also might save a ton later on in just divorce lawyer fees, never mind what you might give up monetarily on several other fronts.

I tell them that, but also tell them that often as much as anything, the 'big wedding to do' is out of basically out of respect for their family's wishes, for people who are often ALL about that antiquated crap.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE a good party and we have our share, but come'on.....

When I see a family with several kids that are girls, I often (if it seems in good, humorous taste) tell the father:

"I hope the first word they learned was 'elope'...

This afternoon we got news that a guy engaged to the daughter of a family we're close to, a handsome, athletic guy in his mid thirties, an aerospace engineer, was attending a Bachelor's party in North Carolina and fell 70 feet down a waterfall to his death yesterday.

Marriage and all that goes with it is less and less appealing.

http://www.wjhl.com/top-news/regional/man-dead-after-falling-from-upper-catawba-falls-in-mcdowell-county-nc/990457643
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 26, 2018, 07:17:21 AM
Better just find a girl that has the same morals, ethics, honesty as you do.

They do exist in Colombia, but expats seem to.prefer the "Zungas"...

Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 26, 2018, 10:07:27 AM
Better just find a girl that has the same morals, ethics, honesty as you do.

They do exist in Colombia, but expats seem to.prefer the "Zungas"...

'Water finds it's own level"
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 26, 2018, 11:00:36 AM
'Water finds it's own level"

Helps to explain the thirsty guys looking for love in the arid mountain regions of Colombia jajaja
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 26, 2018, 01:28:03 PM
Helps to explain the thirsty guys looking for love in the arid mountain regions of Colombia jajaja


You might be right. Perhap's they're mining for this 'love' (whatever that is), cursing their 'luck' (or lack thereof) while mining the dry arid mountains for 'unobtainium' Meanwhile,  the gold flash in the pan they occasionally see and is what keeps them going--is actually pyrite--- 'fool's gold' ;D

un·ob·tain·i·um
ˌənəbˈtānēəm
nouninformal
a highly desirable material that is hypothetical, scientifically impossible, extremely rare, costly, or fictional, or has some of these properties in combination.
"what type of cabling are we talking about, steel, composite, unobtainium?"
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on February 26, 2018, 11:29:55 PM
Imagine how many young men end up trying to date these seeking a putas having know idea who they are and their values from the jump
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on February 27, 2018, 02:12:50 AM
I believe consenting adults should enter into any arrangement they see fit. So long as nobody is getting hurt.

Nevertheless, I looked through some profiles on the "seeking arrangement" site. Essentially, it is prostitution albeit not the "street corner" variety and with a bit more discretion. But if it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, it's a frickn duck.

But before I wave a finger at these young women I have to take a look in the mirror and wonder about all these trips to Latin America. A fool might think the magic of being a gringo makes you ten years younger and hey the women are just "more approachable" down there.

The more things change...the more they stay the same: Show me the money and I'll show you the honey.   

Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 27, 2018, 07:14:20 AM
Helps to explain the thirsty guys looking for love in the arid mountain regions of Colombia jajaja


Yeahh...I am up at 4000 m to meet Kogi women..thsts why I go there..exactly ...

https://www.google.es/search?q=kogi+women&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwij8Nr_pMbZAhWO2YMKHaqkDX4Q_AUIESgB&biw=360&bih=560#imgrc=0BM0vPYVuc2qdM:
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 27, 2018, 08:26:15 AM
Imagine how many young men end up trying to date these seeking a putas having know idea who they are and their values from the jump


Well...I don't know....how dumb could these young men be?


The women are listing their preferred level of compensation right on their profiles. LOL!


But I'm sure they don't charge every guy they meet and the ones that meet them through some other way might be in for a surprise somewhere down the road.....or maybe the guys that these women are naturally attracted to just hump them and dump them. Not all guys are saints either.


Not many young guys these days willing to pay for it...nor are they interested in buying the cow (marriage).
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 27, 2018, 08:28:39 AM

Yeahh...I am up at 4000 m to meet Kogi women..thsts why I go there..exactly ...

https://www.google.es/search?q=kogi+women&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwij8Nr_pMbZAhWO2YMKHaqkDX4Q_AUIESgB&biw=360&bih=560#imgrc=0BM0vPYVuc2qdM:

Didn't you say you wanted kids? Bet you could adopt a dozen or so up thattaway! ;D
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 27, 2018, 09:01:00 AM
Didn't you say you wanted kids? Bet you could adopt a dozen or so up thattaway! ;D


Marrying a woman with children. Is signing up to take care of children that aren't yours so you can sleep with the mom. Lets just face the facts. jajaja


Personally it seems too much like servitude. And seeking arrangement looks like a better alternative if I had to pick between the two.


I understand their are guys that love children that aren't their own. But how about having more of a relationship with your nieces and nephews if that is the case. At least they are your own flesh and blood.


But still I know guys that say they love their step kids more than their own wives. And I guess in a way the kids saved them. But still.....going into this eyes wide open....I still think guys in general should aim higher and if come to the end of the road like Expat and still haven't found someone then....well....I guess you start going for the ones with children.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 27, 2018, 09:04:55 AM


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So with these arrangements do you have to.pay in advance? Or could you just show a bunch of assets, have sex and then dump her before paying?
Ja ja
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 27, 2018, 09:14:54 AM

Marrying a woman with children. Is signing up to take care of children that aren't yours so you can sleep with the mom. Lets just face the facts. jajaja


Personally it seems too much like servitude. And seeking arrangement looks like a better alternative if I had to pick between the two.


I understand their are guys that love children that aren't their own. But how about having more of a relationship with your nieces and nephews if that is the case. At least they are your own flesh and blood.


But still I know guys that say they love their step kids more than their own wives. And I guess in a way the kids saved them. But still.....going into this eyes wide open....I still think guys in general should aim higher and if come to the end of the road like Expat and still haven't found someone then....well....I guess you start going for the ones with children.

This all started with talking about trips o the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marts
In actuality I have a 19.year old and 26 year old without kids who say they want kids with me.

Dont know if it is BS or whether I really have interest.

In reality I h am content and have a rich and adventure filled life I could live without women, period.

Powder skiing beats sex every time.

61 years old and have kids. Kinda irresponsible maybe.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: ignorante on February 27, 2018, 09:40:59 AM
How are you pulling that off, if I may ask?
Have kids? If so, tied up in the basement?
Big split bedroom house, with a nanny? LOL

My 1st marriage, we did ourselves in. Between us working opposite shifts full time, we we're heavily involved with their  schools. Then, we did Boy Scouts, swimming lessons, music lessons, chess tournaments, easily half a dozen different seasonal sports,  Taekwondo....

Took tons of trips, from Asia to Alaska, Key West to Canada, all the national parks, so much more.

Typically winter, a few weeks in Key West, relaxing at home, but also scuba, snorkling, deep sea fishing, then summer time, if nothing else, Michigan's Great Lakes.

Honestly, there was a whole lot of fun, but a lot of logistics and eventually there was nothing left for 'us'-- it was about the kids and trying to get enough rest.

Looking back, I wish we all had more 'down time' and in a world where if the kids aren't actively doing something with their family, they're often addicted to video games, I think 'boredom' is desirable sometimes and is highly under rated.

Everybody thought we had it all, life on a string, but unbeknownst, behind the scenes, our tank had run out of gas.

Probably the traveling was the best education for our kids. Despite our split, they've grown up very well, worldly, well educated and sophisticated, yet humble and down to earth.

But  for a while, for my ex and I, there wasn't a lot of time for sex. I think if you asked most couples, most counselors, they'd agree that marriage and kids typically puts a damper on sex life compared to before marriage.

I guess you're one of the lucky few who are different, no surprise there, as our post, counterposts tend to be at odds, which is all good, as different perspectives and opinions are probably what this site needs.
  LOL!  How?  After the kids go to bed at night, in the morning, and, if I work from home, then my wife invariably comes into the office  in the afternoon, when the older kids are in school and the younger ones are napping, to beckon me to the bedroom.  I lose some money on days I work from home . . .


Three times yesterday.   Once this morning, but I am working away from home today, so anything more will have to wait until tonight when I get home.


My wife likes me, I mean, really, really likes me.


I had a marriage before where sex went from daily to weekly to monthly, then she moved into another bedroom and had sex with me only when she grew physically desperate (3 or 4 times a year) and would come over to my room and molest me (yeah, it really felt like that).  I stuck that out for years (misguided me)  until she divorced me.  I was devastated at the time, feeling like I had failed.  It was not easy to see at the time what a good thing the divorce was.  Now that I know the difference, I would never tolerate what I tolerated previously.  That relationship changed me from a typical "nice guy" who puts women on a pedestal to a bit of an [snip], confident with a touch of arrogance, who does not put up with much from a female.


That's around when I found this place and considered visiting Colombia, but, to be honest, reading some of the things you all wrote, you sort of talked me out of it, or at least gave me enough doubt that I never pulled the trigger. 


Anyway, as a high income 40 something bodybuilder (probably would have been the perfect time to visit Colombia if I had gone), I was having the time of my life once I realized that American females almost a generation younger than me had no morals (things were very different when I was a young man).  That got old after a while, and I was trying to look for a relationship but having no luck finding anything worth more than adding to the rotation for a couple months for fun.


While I was vacillating about Colombia, due to the pros and cons posted here, my wife asked me out.  In spite of seemingly being very "into" me, she refused to kiss me on the first date, whoa!  What?  She is quite a bit younger than me and pretty, and I just figured, incorrectly, she was not physically into me.  No problem.  I moved on, or so I thought.  About a month later she asked me out again.  i was puzzled, thinking this woman is playing with me or wants a "friend," and I almost told her no.  There was an awkward moment of silence before I considered and said, "ok" with a shrug.  It's hard to believe how close I came to turning away the best thing that has ever happened to me.  Things got much better from there. 


The funny thing is, she never knew there was an issue.  She just thought I was very busy so she asked me out again.  She honestly is of the opinion that women who kiss on the first date are sending a signal that they are a slut. Things took off very quickly after that.


We were married less than a year later, and we have been married more than half a dozen years.  Two kids added to the family during that time (my youngest is 17 months).


Sex remains frequent and fun, and she teases me constantly in addition, telling me "It's good for you."  She is old fashioned about men, women, and relationships, sex roles in the household, that sort of thing, saying she wanted the kind of relationship her grandmother had, and now she feels like she has it.  She thanks me constantly for providing her the means to have children and be home to raise them.


One can never truly know what is in another person's head, but she seems genuinely happy, and her family seems to think she is really happy as well (although her parents frequently make jokes about whether I am from their generation or hers).  I am certainly happy, and I have no doubts this one is for life.


In summary, we just make time.  LOL!   ;D
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 27, 2018, 09:50:58 AM
This all started with talking about trips o the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marts
In actuality I have a 19.year old and 26 year old without kids who say they want kids with me.

Dont know if it is BS or whether I really have interest.

In reality I h am content and have a rich and adventure filled life I could live without women, period.

Powder skiing beats sex every time.

61 years old and have kids. Kinda irresponsible maybe.

If you don’t have kids who are you going leave your assets to when you die

At any rate 61 is kind of late to be joining the men going their own way movement jajaja

Good luck on whatever you decide to do with your remaining years
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 27, 2018, 09:59:28 AM
  LOL!  How?  After the kids go to bed at night, in the morning, and, if I work from home, then my wife invariably comes into the office  in the afternoon, when the older kids are in school and the younger ones are napping, to beckon me to the bedroom.  I lose some money on days I work from home . . .


Three times yesterday.   Once this morning, but I am working away from home today, so anything more will have to wait until tonight when I get home.


My wife likes me, I mean, really, really likes me.


I had a marriage before where sex went from daily to weekly to monthly, then she moved into another bedroom and had sex with me only when she grew physically desperate (3 or 4 times a year) and would come over to my room and molest me (yeah, it really felt like that).  I stuck that out for years (misguided me)  until she divorced me.  I was devastated at the time, feeling like I had failed.  It was not easy to see at the time what a good thing the divorce was.  Now that I know the difference, I would never tolerate what I tolerated previously.  That relationship changed me from a typical "nice guy" who puts women on a pedestal to a bit of an [snip], confident with a touch of arrogance, who does not put up with much from a female.


That's around when I found this place and considered visiting Colombia, but, to be honest, reading some of the things you all wrote, you sort of talked me out of it, or at least gave me enough doubt that I never pulled the trigger. 


Anyway, as a high income 40 something bodybuilder (probably would have been the perfect time to visit Colombia if I had gone), I was having the time of my life once I realized that American females almost a generation younger than me had no morals (things were very different when I was a young man).  That got old after a while, and I was trying to look for a relationship but having no luck finding anything worth more than adding to the rotation for a couple months for fun.


While I was vacillating about Colombia, due to the pros and cons posted here, my wife asked me out.  In spite of seemingly being very "into" me, she refused to kiss me on the first date, whoa!  What?  She is quite a bit younger than me and pretty, and I just figured, incorrectly, she was not physically into me.  No problem.  I moved on, or so I thought.  About a month later she asked me out again.  i was puzzled, thinking this woman is playing with me or wants a "friend," and I almost told her no.  There was an awkward moment of silence before I considered and said, "ok" with a shrug.  It's hard to believe how close I came to turning away the best thing that has ever happened to me.  Things got much better from there. 


The funny thing is, she never knew there was an issue.  She just thought I was very busy so she asked me out again.  She honestly is of the opinion that women who kiss on the first date are sending a signal that they are a slut. Things took off very quickly after that.


We were married less than a year later, and we have been married more than half a dozen years.  Two kids added to the family during that time (my youngest is 17 months).


Sex remains frequent and fun, and she teases me constantly in addition, telling me "It's good for you."  She is old fashioned about men, women, and relationships, sex roles in the household, that sort of thing, saying she wanted the kind of relationship her grandmother had, and now she feels like she has it.  She thanks me constantly for providing her the means to have children and be home to raise them.


One can never truly know what is in another person's head, but she seems genuinely happy, and her family seems to think she is really happy as well (although her parents frequently make jokes about whether I am from their generation or hers).  I am certainly happy, and I have no doubts this one is for life.


In summary, we just make time.  LOL!   ;D

That's fantastic and ought to inspire a lot of guys, couples with and without kids! Keep it up!
And the---"We just 'make' the time" is something that's a vital skill in pursuing a relationship with a woman far, far away, as is 'making' namely having the money to be able do it, pay USCIS, etc.

Priorities.

In terms of intimacy,  it takes initiative too, keeping things interesting and not taking each other for granted. If you let things fall into the 'same old, same old'--that's exactly what you're left with and interests can wander elsewhere. Past the twelve year mark, we're still having fun, to the point where my grown kids know that while they're always welcome, they need to CALL first, not just 'dropping in' which was a bit akward a few times, LOL.

Being a significant bit older than my wife and looking to retire soon, increasing workout sessions,  boosting cardio fitness and more are all things on my mind. As much as I dread it, we're leaving in an hour for an hour of intense power yoga at 100 degrees. Already adding in light weights. In May will ramp up weights and the pool's right next to gym, so I'll get some laps in for sure

Damn it, but my Physician-Internist was right all these years when twice a year, he preached 'more exercise, easy on red meat, less 'white stuff ' cut down on the breads, rice, sugar....He's always given me an A minus on health, habits, weight and my blood work numbers  but I've got to ramp it up.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 27, 2018, 11:26:54 AM
If you don’t have kids who are you going leave your assets to when you die

At any rate 61 is kind of late to be joining the men going their own way movement jajaja

Good luck on whatever you decide to do with your remaining years


I will spend it all. Why leave it to some spoiled brat.
Never said I would be going without sex..only said I could and it wouldnt be any big deal...
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 27, 2018, 03:23:55 PM


In reality I h am content and have a rich and adventure filled life I could live without women, period.

Powder skiing beats sex every time.


The men going their own way movement isn’t some kind of group celibacy movement. But rather a group of guys that often make statements like the one above because women and sex are not a priority to them.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: buencamino3 on February 27, 2018, 04:08:54 PM
Expat if you're looking for a "Kogi" woman and not "kogui" your looking on the wrong continent.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 27, 2018, 07:28:37 PM
Expat if you're looking for a "Kogi" woman and not "kogui" your looking on the wrong continent.

Who says which spelling is right? Its western translation of the name,
. Know how to spell it in their language? They have their own written language as well, unlike North American tribes

Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on February 27, 2018, 09:01:41 PM
Expat if you're looking for a "Kogi" woman and not "kogui" your looking on the wrong continent.

Nah, he got it right. It's known as the Machu Pichu of Colombia, but it's 600 or 700 years older than Machu Pichu and helluva a lot harder to get to---like a 4 full day and night hike, often thru thick mud. Of all places, a periodical from Ireland had a good article on it and Wikipedia has a bit on it also.

Too inaccessible, but the narcos loved that aspect. I'd helicopter in before hiking.


https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/discovering-colombia-s-lost-city-1.3174687

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogi_people
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 28, 2018, 07:01:39 AM
Never went to the lost city. Thsts for tourists.
Went to the high mountains. Way more remoter. 9 days there and back.

That was last year . Our expedition this year got aborted after 2 days due to logistics.

Never, never trust a Colombian when they promise you something. Either sex. Verify, verify , verify all the details.
If they are not out and out lieing, they are exaggerating and bullsh1tting.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on February 28, 2018, 08:41:01 AM

Never, never trust a Colombian when they promise you something. Either sex. Verify, verify , verify all the details.
If they are not out and out lieing, they are exaggerating and bullsh1tting.



I understand if you were more upset about your trip being aborted.


But you might want to count your blessings when it comes to sex in Colombia.


Any woman can changer her mind. But in the U.S.... a woman can change her mind even while you are having sex...and one more thrust (after the "no, stop") can get you charged with rape.


In Colombia verbal consent isn't necessary. If she doesn't resist your physical advances you are good to go.
You certainly don't want to waste time verifying details beforehand....what a mood killer that would be. jajaja
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: buencamino3 on February 28, 2018, 11:12:04 AM
When you get high enough mountains are pretty much the same everywhere, rocks, snow and ice but what's really unique in Colombia (and Venezuela) are the high altitude páramos with their specialized fauna and flora like the huge yellow blossomed frailejones, Andean tapirs and Bearded Helmetcrest hummingbirds. They are magical places.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: utopiacowboy on February 28, 2018, 02:20:57 PM
I went to the Ciudad Perdida with my son, daughter and son-in-law. Elex is right - it is all tourists. I only met three Colombians on the hike out of the hundreds of people that were doing it. People from everywhere, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, the US and Canada - it was really cool to see so many people from everywhere enjoying Colombia. There were a ton of hot chicks on the route and in the camps.


It is a grueling hike - I was the oldest person I saw on the hike. All the camps are situated in the Buritaca River valley so it means every day you are making an ascent and a descent to the next night's camp. You don't go up to the ridge line and stay there unfortunately. Each day's hike is done by the early afternoon so you have the rest of the afternoon and evening to swim in the river, rest and socialize.


My son and daughter think the trip was a highlight in their lives but I am not so sure about that. The city basically consists of numerous terraces connected by trails surrounded by jungle. It's impressive to be sure but I am not sure that it is worth  a four or five day hike in the jungle. I am glad that I did it but I doubt that I would do it again.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: buencamino3 on February 28, 2018, 04:01:13 PM
If it wasn't interesting archeologically I can see it wouldn't be worth it. I visited Machu Pichu which of course is nothing but foreign tourists. That part is a drag but the archeology is worth putting up with them. A while back I went with two friends on a 15 kilometer hike leading out of the Valle de Cocóra. Going up we were on a trail where there were no other hikers but coming back down we connected with another trail that was being used by lots of foreign tourists. Of all the people we encountered on that trail I think two were Colombian. I asked our guide about that and he said well most Colombians (the city folk of course) are not into hiking.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on February 28, 2018, 07:03:24 PM

I understand if you were more upset about your trip being aborted.


But you might want to count your blessings when it comes to sex in Colombia.


Any woman can changer her mind. But in the U.S.... a woman can change her mind even while you are having sex...and one more thrust (after the "no, stop") can get you charged with rape.


In Colombia verbal consent isn't necessary. If she doesn't resist your physical advances you are good to go.
You certainly don't want to waste time verifying details beforehand....what a mood killer that would be. jajaja

I wasnt talking about that sort of thing. Just honesty, integrity and dependebility in general.

Of course you could say the same thing about India , certain countries in the Midddle East, Former Soviet Union etc.  etc.. There is even a marked difference in morals and ethics between my generation and the present generation in Canada. But in developing countries, these differences are more.marked. And Colombia has the additional distinction of the culture being corrupted by the Narco.era.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: utopiacowboy on March 01, 2018, 02:08:24 PM
If it wasn't interesting archeologically I can see it wouldn't be worth it. I visited Machu Pichu which of course is nothing but foreign tourists. That part is a drag but the archeology is worth putting up with them. A while back I went with two friends on a 15 kilometer hike leading out of the Valle de Cocóra. Going up we were on a trail where there were no other hikers but coming back down we connected with another trail that was being used by lots of foreign tourists. Of all the people we encountered on that trail I think two were Colombian. I asked our guide about that and he said well most Colombians (the city folk of course) are not into hiking.


They are proud of their country but they don't want to see it if it's any trouble. It's too bad because at the top of the lost city there is a Colombian army base at the foot of a cliff on top of one of the big terraces. Hung on the side of the cliff is a gigantic Colombian flag which actually looked really cool. My son-in-law took a pic of it and I will have to try to find it.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 01, 2018, 05:49:47 PM

They are proud of their country but they don't want to see it if it's any trouble. It's too bad because at the top of the lost city there is a Colombian army base at the foot of a cliff on top of one of the big terraces. Hung on the side of the cliff is a gigantic Colombian flag which actually looked really cool. My son-in-law took a pic of it and I will have to try to find it.

Probably common in a lot of nations. I lived in NYC and Washington DC--actually in nearby Georgetown, -- for years. Loved it too. But it wasn't until decades later that I took my wife there and went to places like the top of the Empire State building, various monuments in and around DC.

On the other hand, having lived in the south a real long time, I  probably know more about the geography and history of the area than 98% of the 'natives'.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: buencamino3 on March 01, 2018, 06:36:44 PM
Wow those people in the South must be real numbskulls  that you would know more about their geography and history than they do. Assume you're including the whole population from university professors to street people in your statement.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 01, 2018, 07:37:23 PM
Wow those people in the South must be real numbskulls  that you would know more about their geography and history than they do. Assume you're including the whole population from university professors to street people in your statement.

I always liked history, but not until I became older did I take a greater interest in the history, especially that of where I was living.Yes, far less than 2% of the population are professors of history, really probably far less than 2% are professors period. Then they're often into 'niche' areas.

But it's amazing that so many of the people here have never been even across a state line. And most of the many, many tour bus drivers and walking guides are retirees who moved down from the north. They're pretty well trained and have to pass tests before working.

In particular, I am occasionally asked to present at and bring artifacts to schools to discuss the history of the indigenous people. (indians) Almost no one knows that the Mico (Chief) who welcomed the British, voluntarily traveled twice at great peril to his health (no immunity to European illnesses) to England and was well recieved by Parliment.

It's necessary to explain the Indian's sophistication, how usually women made decisions by vote on whether or not to go to war--it was a matriarchal society, although their were a few rogue tribes. Almost nobody knows how while they moved along marked trade routes from the Georgia/ Florida line area, all the way up into Canada and Michigan's upper pennisula, bringing back copper, but that the tribes were very much divided into specific geographical areas.

I bet that 99% of people here couldn't tell you that Spanish flags flew here first, then French, then British and that for a while after the British settled--(they're given credit for founding the area)--there were more German settlers (seeking religious freedom) than English settlers. Hell, before the Spaniards came, the indigenous people explained that there had been white men with red beards long before--likely Vikings.

Most people don't realize that Christopher Columbus never even set foot in what's now referred to as the 'lower 48'--the continent of USA-America. He got to Puerto Rico...

A lot of the whites revere General Robert E. Lee like a saint, but have no idea he was offered to be leader of the Union army as well as the Confederate army, or that he planned out and laid the foundation for strategic Fort Pulaski, a Fort then thought to be unbreachable, impenetrable. It was --that is until long range capable rifled cannons were introduced a few years later.

Then there's a lot of so called history taught that's to varying extents, false. The winners write the history books however they want.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: ignorante on March 02, 2018, 06:42:11 AM
Went to Ft Pulaski this summer.  Interesting place.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on March 02, 2018, 02:55:12 PM

Well...I don't know....how dumb could these young men be?


The women are listing their preferred level of compensation right on their profiles. LOL!


But I'm sure they don't charge every guy they meet and the ones that meet them through some other way might be in for a surprise somewhere down the road.....or maybe the guys that these women are naturally attracted to just hump them and dump them. Not all guys are saints either.


Not many young guys these days willing to pay for it...nor are they interested in buying the cow (marriage).

You are missing the whole point. Being a hooker had a stigma. I am talking about the college boyfriend who doesnt know she had/ has a sugar daddy
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on March 02, 2018, 02:56:16 PM

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So with these arrangements do you have to.pay in advance? Or could you just show a bunch of assets, have sex and then dump her before paying?
Ja ja

That's the whole game
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 02, 2018, 04:57:30 PM
You are missing the whole point. Being a hooker had a stigma. I am talking about the college boyfriend who doesnt know she had/ has a sugar daddy

I don’t know what the typical arrangement is in the US but in Colombia....when the supports the chick she usually lives with the guy

There are just so many more options for guys living in colombia that you would never consider supporting a woman that you didn’t want to live with or who didn’t want to live with you
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 02, 2018, 04:58:05 PM
You are missing the whole point. Being a hooker had a stigma. I am talking about the college boyfriend who doesnt know she had/ has a sugar daddy

Stigma and then some...I thought the herpes prevalence rate in the USA was insanely high. Then I read about Colombia and Mexico's rates, along with other STDs there, and it made the USA's look like a convent's.

Scary place to 'dip your wick'....
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on March 02, 2018, 05:22:49 PM
I don’t know what the typical arrangement is in the US but in Colombia....when the supports the chick she usually lives with the guy

There are just so many more options for guys living in colombia that you would never consider supporting a woman that you didn’t want to live with or who didn’t want to live with you

No gaurantee...espescially if you are travelling alone away from "home base" a lot..


Better find the 1 in 100 with good morals, (even if she aknt a 9.or 10)  or just dont bother with a "serious" relationship.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 02, 2018, 07:47:54 PM
No gaurantee...espescially if you are travelling alone away from "home base" a lot..


Better find the 1 in 100 with good morals, (even if she aknt a 9.or 10)  or just dont bother with a "serious" relationship.


Huh


I wouldn't leave my dog home alone let alone a chick I was supporting.


Not home a lot...what's the point in having a live in girlfriend or a dog for that matter. jajaja


This one doesn't look bad.
says she wants to meet someone she has a connection with and see were things go. She is doesn't have a set level of compensation. Doubt that she would live with anyone she didn't like on some level.
She is young and cute so I think she deserves some compensation for being in a dead end relationship. Unless you are willing to marry her. LMFAO!!!
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on March 02, 2018, 08:57:30 PM

Huh


I wouldn't leave my dog home alone let alone a chick I was supporting.


Not home a lot...what's the point in having a live in girlfriend or a dog for that matter. jajaja


This one doesn't look bad.
says she wants to meet someone she has a connection with and see were things go. She is doesn't have a set level of compensation. Doubt that she would live with anyone she didn't like on some level.
She is young and cute so I think she deserves some compensation for being in a dead end relationship. Unless you are willing to marry her. LMFAO!!!


You can stay home banging the same chic 3 times a day and watching over her like a hawk..

I got better things to do..doesnt sound like fun to.me..

You can get a PI for 100 COP a day anyway.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 02, 2018, 10:45:23 PM

You can stay home banging the same chic 3 times a day and watching over her like a hawk..

I got better things to do..doesnt sound like fun to.me..

You can get a PI for 100 COP a day anyway.


You don't have to stay home
Take her with you.


I feel like I'm talking to someone that has never lived with someone in Colombia.


There is only one reason your girlfriend is ever alone....and that is because you left her alone.


If you don't want a woman with you almost all the time....then don't support one and don't let her move in. Besides the ones you let live with you should be entertaining outside the bedroom as well as in.


In two months time you will spend more time with your live in Colombian girlfriend than you will have spent with your american girlfriend that you lived with for a year. So you better like banging the hell out of her as well as doing almost everything else with her.
 Hell they even come into the bathroom while you are shaving to take a piss. And bang on the bathroom door when you are taking a [snip]. jajaja


The only reason I have any time to myself when I'm with my girlfriend....is because she sleeps like three to  four more hours a day then I do.



Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on March 03, 2018, 05:29:08 AM

You don't have to stay home
Take her with you.


I feel like I'm talking to someone that has never lived with someone in Colombia.


There is only one reason your girlfriend is ever alone....and that is because you left her alone.


If you don't want a woman with you almost all the time....then don't support one and don't let her move in. Besides the ones you let live with you should be entertaining outside the bedroom as well as in.


In two months time you will spend more time with your live in Colombian girlfriend than you will have spent with your american girlfriend that you lived with for a year. So you better like banging the hell out of her as well as doing almost everything else with her.
 Hell they even come into the bathroom while you are shaving to take a piss. And bang on the bathroom door when you are taking a [snip]. jajaja


The only reason I have any time to myself when I'm with my girlfriend....is because she sleeps like three to  four more hours a day then I do.







Ok for Cancun or santa Marta or Villa Nieba...if she hss holidsys

Not very many  Colombianas like back country skiing, multiptch rock climbing and expedition mountsineering.

And  i like a woman who is studying and working and doing her own thing.

Not some floozie looking for a free lunch.

Not changing my lifestyle for someone elses concept of a relationship.

People need their own space. Otherwise things get way too "clingy". Thats how healthycrelationshios work. Not one extreme or the other.

If you cant trust them to be alone, you shouldnt be with them.Punto cerrado

I agree with you 100%..if your not living with her shluldnt be supporting her.

Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: mambocowboy on March 03, 2018, 07:37:09 AM

You don't have to stay home
Take her with you.


I feel like I'm talking to someone that has never lived with someone in Colombia.


There is only one reason your girlfriend is ever alone....and that is because you left her alone.


If you don't want a woman with you almost all the time....then don't support one and don't let her move in. Besides the ones you let live with you should be entertaining outside the bedroom as well as in.


In two months time you will spend more time with your live in Colombian girlfriend than you will have spent with your american girlfriend that you lived with for a year. So you better like banging the hell out of her as well as doing almost everything else with her.
 Hell they even come into the bathroom while you are shaving to take a piss. And bang on the bathroom door when you are taking a [snip]. jajaja


The only reason I have any time to myself when I'm with my girlfriend....is because she sleeps like three to  four more hours a day then I do.
Jaja. I thought only my wife was like that. The bathroom part is true too...
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 03, 2018, 10:20:45 AM






Ok for Cancun or santa Marta or Villa Nieba...if she hss holidsys

Not very many  Colombianas like back country skiing, multiptch rock climbing and expedition mountsineering.

And  i like a woman who is studying and working and doing her own thing.

Not some floozie looking for a free lunch.

Not changing my lifestyle for someone elses concept of a relationship.

People need their own space. Otherwise things get way too "clingy". Thats how healthycrelationshios work. Not one extreme or the other.

If you cant trust them to be alone, you shouldnt be with them.Punto cerrado

I agree with you 100%..if your not living with her shluldnt be supporting her.


Well I guess that explains why you live alone. jajaja


I'll just leave you with the three things that Colombia has taught me.


"Sex is a gift from God"


"God wants you to be Happy"


And "Marriage is for procreation"


Three very simple statements with very profound implications for guys getting involved with Colmbianas.


Take the last statement. It isn't like you can't entice a Colombiana into marrying you without the prospect of forming a family. But does she really value your marriage if you don't form a family. The answer is probably not unless you have some very deep pockets. jajaja



Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on March 03, 2018, 06:41:16 PM

Well I guess that explains why you live alone. jajaja


I'll just leave you with the three things that Colombia has taught me.


"Sex is a gift from God"


"God wants you to be Happy"


And "Marriage is for procreation"


Three very simple statements with very profound implications for guys getting involved with Colmbianas.


Take the last statement. It isn't like you can't entice a Colombiana into marrying you without the prospect of forming a family. But does she really value your marriage if you don't form a family. The answer is probably not unless you have some very deep pockets. jajaja


Guess you think eveeyone should be a clone of CaliPro
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on March 05, 2018, 10:33:15 AM
No gaurantee...espescially if you are travelling alone away from "home base" a lot..


Better find the 1 in 100 with good morals, (even if she aknt a 9.or 10)  or just dont bother with a "serious" relationship.

Cali clearly isnt with any girls that have a j o b.

Which is fine but telling. The idea that watching a woman is a full time job is less than thrilling. One of the reasons i wouldnt personally want to live in latin america is because id just get to jaded.

There are trade offs to having the wife and kids but being with broke barrio girls for years and now probably decades has got to get stale... for most.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 05, 2018, 03:23:53 PM
Cali clearly isnt with any girls that have a j o b.

Which is fine but telling. The idea that watching a woman is a full time job is less than thrilling. One of the reasons i wouldnt personally want to live in latin america is because id just get to jaded.

There are trade offs to having the wife and kids but being with broke barrio girls for years and now probably decades has got to get stale... for most.

It’s hard to shake the loser mentality on this board sometimes when lt comes to women and relationships jajaja

I mean isn’t it the women that watch the guys to keep them from cheating

The point I was trying to make is that if you live with a chick there just isn’t a lot of opportunity to cheat and women that agree to live with you probably do like sleeping with so why worry about them having a boyfriend

But fighting the culture of male victimization on this board is a full time job. Jajaja

I mean really when you are the cat with the cash and you can get just as many hot chicks as she can get dicks.....who logically holds the upper hand in the relationship ..... I mean assuming you aren’t Expat

jajaja

But I can empathize with Expat a bit
Because if I told my girlfriend I was going hiking in the wilderness for a few days and she wasn’t invited
I’d have relationship problems as well

As far as living with a women that works in Colombia
I personally would never do it
Has to be the worst return on investment posible
Let’s see about 200 hours a month spent away from you including travel time for an extra 300 dólares a month   Forget it
If I did care if she worked   I would care if she lived somewhere else jajaja
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on March 05, 2018, 05:49:23 PM
It’s hard to shake the loser mentality on this board sometimes when lt comes to women and relationships jajaja

I mean isn’t it the women that watch the guys to keep them from cheating

The point I was trying to make is that if you live with a chick there just isn’t a lot of opportunity to cheat and women that agree to live with you probably do like sleeping with so why worry about them having a boyfriend

But fighting the culture of male victimization on this board is a full time job. Jajaja

I mean really when you are the cat with the cash and you can get just as many hot chicks as she can get dicks.....who logically holds the upper hand in the relationship ..... I mean assuming you aren’t Expat

jajaja

But I can empathize with Expat a bit
Because if I told my girlfriend I was going hiking in the wilderness for a few days and she wasn’t invited
I’d have relationship problems as well

As far as living with a women that works in Colombia
I personally would never do it
Has to be the worst return on investment posible
Let’s see about 200 hours a month spent away from you including travel time for an extra 300 dólares a month   Forget it
If I did care if she worked   I would care if she lived somewhere else jajaja

Again women with money are foreign to you. There surely is more money in bogota, but not all women are broke. I am completely down with what you do, but by throwing out that wage it is again telling.

Im guessing your point isnt beta males date chicks with resources. I do agree there are a lot of broke chicks in colombia and with those chicks you do hold the upper hand.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 05, 2018, 06:04:09 PM
Again women with money are foreign to you. There surely is more money in bogota, but not all women are broke. I am completely down with what you do, but by throwing out that wage it is again telling.

Im guessing your point isnt beta males date chicks with resources. I do agree there are a lot of broke chicks in colombia and with those chicks you do hold the upper hand.

I never dated a chick over 30 as they don’t interest me and never dated a chick that made over 500 bucks a month working

Maybe if I met one that 1500 a month it would be worth it to me to have them work instead of being at my beck and call 24/7.

But I don’t know

I have dated chicks that came from families that weren’t bad off

The one that is having my child comes from a decent family mother has a couple of rental properties and two 10 ton trucks she rents out to move building supplies

Her father live in Barranquilla and helps out financially as well

I personally don’t see the value in my woman working in Colombia
It just isn’t worth it to me....would much rather have her spending time with our baby or doing something of value for me

Lived to long in the US with you go girl career women and I never want to go back
My first American wife made quite a bit more money than i did at the time
Everything was negotiated. I would never do that again even if a was broke and living on the street jajaja
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on March 05, 2018, 07:07:57 PM
I never dated a chick over 30 as they don’t interest me and never dated a chick that made over 500 bucks a month working

Maybe if I met one that 1500 a month it would be worth it to me to have them work instead of being at my beck and call 24/7.

But I don’t know

I have dated chicks that came from families that weren’t bad off

The one that is having my child comes from a decent family mother has a couple of rental properties and two 10 ton trucks she rents out to move building supplies

Her father live in Barranquilla and helps out financially as well

I personally don’t see the value in my woman working in Colombia
It just isn’t worth it to me....would much rather have her spending time with our baby or doing something of value for me

Lived to long in the US with you go girl career women and I never want to go back
My first American wife made quite a bit more money than i did at the time
Everything was negotiated. I would never do that again even if a was broke and living on the street jajaja

Yea I get it. Bad relationship in the usa soured you and you enjoy very young women with the financial tides highly in your favor. $300 a month or move in with an older gringo. I get the easy sales pitch. Doesn't work everywhere. I dated some more well heeled ladies, my wife was very middle class but took her education seriously which got her out. English is a big advantage for a hot latina. But broke with less options is clearly a well played angle for you. But that's not every latina, and if that's the value you offer you cant exactly hate on a woman wanting more.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 05, 2018, 07:45:12 PM
Yea I get it. Bad relationship in the usa soured you and you enjoy very young women with the financial tides highly in your favor. $300 a month or move in with an older gringo. I get the easy sales pitch. Doesn't work everywhere. I dated some more well heeled ladies, my wife was very middle class but took her education seriously which got her out. English is a big advantage for a hot latina. But broke with less options is clearly a well played angle for you. But that's not every latina, and if that's the value you offer you cant exactly hate on a woman wanting more.

If I had to estimate I would say only about 5 percent of colombianas are truely open to marrying and or living with an older gringo

And then after you find one in that 5 percent..... you have to find one that really really blows you away

Because letting a colombiana live with you has huge opportunity costs associated with it.
You really never have to let any chick live with you in Colombia to consistently get laid here.

Because you can always just hump and dump till you die here.... if you want
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on March 06, 2018, 12:54:30 PM
If I had to estimate I would say only about 5 percent of colombianas are truely open to marrying and or living with an older gringo

And then after you find one in that 5 percent..... you have to find one that really really blows you away

Because letting a colombiana live with you has huge opportunity costs associated with it.
You really never have to let any chick live with you in Colombia to consistently get laid here.

Because you can always just hump and dump till you die here.... if you want

Yea your math doesnt really detail age differences. A gringo can definitely marry younger but sure when the age difference becomes extreme then it's the sugar daddy thing that appeals.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: mambocowboy on March 06, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
Cali clearly isnt with any girls that have a j o b.

Which is fine but telling. The idea that watching a woman is a full time job is less than thrilling. One of the reasons i wouldnt personally want to live in latin america is because id just get to jaded.

There are trade offs to having the wife and kids but being with broke barrio girls for years and now probably decades has got to get stale... for most.
We're comparing apples to oranges. You can take the same woman and she 'll be very different in the US than in Colombia. Personally I think Calipro has quite the life in Colombia and that's why he lives there. In the US such a life is simply not possible...
Title: Re: Wow this place still
Post by: Calipro on March 06, 2018, 01:42:45 PM
Yea your math doesnt really detail age differences. A gringo can definitely marry younger but sure when the age difference becomes extreme then it's the sugar daddy thing that appeals.

I remember when my first Colombian wife told me that Colombians love their families more than Americans do

I said how can you say something like that and she told me that Colombians are much more involved in the daily lives of their family members and they obviously care more about each other

I said don’t you think the fact that you depend on each other financially and your family is really the only safety net you have in colombia has something to do with the fact that you are so involved in each other’s personal lives
And she said no I don’t

I believe I was right but I also believe she believes Colombians love their families more than Americans

It would be interesting to get in a colombianas mind to see how much of hooking up with an older gringo is instinctive and how much of it is a conscious desicion

I just know I’m pretty dang happy with my chick and I know she is very happy as well
Her mother thanked me one day for making her daughter the happiest she has ever seen her
And as it stands now I wouldn’t change a thing

Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 06, 2018, 01:44:31 PM
We're comparing apples to oranges. You can take the same woman and she 'll be very different in the US than in Colombia. Personally I think Calipro has quite the life in Colombia and that's why he lives there. In the US such a life is simply not possible...

There is nothing I miss about living in the USA
Absolutely nothing
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Chris F on March 06, 2018, 06:46:28 PM

You don't have to stay home
Take her with you.


I feel like I'm talking to someone that has never lived with someone in Colombia.


There is only one reason your girlfriend is ever alone....and that is because you left her alone.


If you don't want a woman with you almost all the time....then don't support one and don't let her move in. Besides the ones you let live with you should be entertaining outside the bedroom as well as in.


In two months time you will spend more time with your live in Colombian girlfriend than you will have spent with your american girlfriend that you lived with for a year. So you better like banging the hell out of her as well as doing almost everything else with her.
 Hell they even come into the bathroom while you are shaving to take a piss. And bang on the bathroom door when you are taking a [snip]. jajaja


The only reason I have any time to myself when I'm with my girlfriend....is because she sleeps like three to  four more hours a day then I do.


Hey Calipro


Is that a picture of your lady before  she was pregnant and now?  Just wondering...
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 06, 2018, 07:06:48 PM

Hey Calipro


Is that a picture of your lady before  she was pregnant and now?  Just wondering...

That’s a pic of my girl at 2 months and at 6 months

I thought about posting a pic of myself instead but we already know what a sugar daddy looks like Jajaja
But not everyone that buys into a feminist mentally of telling men what is  age appropriate knows what an oportunistic hoe looks like  LMFAO !!
Especially when she is six months along
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 06, 2018, 08:34:32 PM
That’s a pic of my girl at 2 months and at 6 months

I thought about posting a pic of myself instead but we already know what a sugar daddy looks like Jajaja
But not everyone that buys into a feminist mentally of telling men what is  age appropriate knows what an oportunistic hoe looks like  LMFAO !!
Especially when she is six months along

A bit premature at this point (pun intended) but congratulations, you're well on your way. Wishing you what no money, no amount of wile or charm can buy, a healthy baby.

I've worked with hundreds of premature babies, and while you're 'almost there' in in terms of a viable, developed newborn, in another 4 to 6 weeks, the eyes, the finishing touches on the brain, the other latter final finishing touches of the gestational period will be far enough along. Far enough that even if the bambino decides to comes 'out of the oven' then, he/she will be right near 100% good to go.

Hell, I've seen premies born at six months grow up to be honor roll students and athletes!

I know so even more personally. My younger son was born very premature, the Mom's pregnancy incredibly difficult. The Doctors didn't even want to give us ODDS on if he would be born alive. He was. While It wasn't until about 2d grade that he caught up with the other kids and 'hit his stride'--today, he's good at pretty much all sports. He was first chair state jazz band, former state chess champion (team president) and has close to a 4.0 average in his junior year at UGA, double majoring in Computer Science/Artificial Intelligence, with his second Major in Mathematics.

Besides school, he works 15-20 hours a week, for extra 'play money'.  And he has problems sorting, handling all the distracting, hot babes who want to bang HIM!

And he's funny as hell...

Oh, and remember,  when a woman's preggars, not only can she eat whatever the hell she wants,  but she also has free license to be meaner than a bobcat in a burlap bag!!!
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 07, 2018, 12:00:57 AM
A bit premature at this point (pun intended) but congratulations, you're well on your way. Wishing you what no money, no amount of wile or charm can buy, a healthy baby.

I've worked with hundreds of premature babies, and while you're 'almost there' in in terms of a viable, developed newborn, in another 4 to 6 weeks, the eyes, the finishing touches on the brain, the other latter final finishing touches of the gestational period will be far enough along. Far enough that even if the bambino decides to comes 'out of the oven' then, he/she will be right near 100% good to go.

Hell, I've seen premies born at six months grow up to be honor roll students and athletes!

I know so even more personally. My younger son was born very premature, the Mom's pregnancy incredibly difficult. The Doctors didn't even want to give us ODDS on if he would be born alive. He was. While It wasn't until about 2d grade that he caught up with the other kids and 'hit his stride'--today, he's good at pretty much all sports. He was first chair state jazz band, former state chess champion (team president) and has close to a 4.0 average in his junior year at UGA, double majoring in Computer Science/Artificial Intelligence, with his second Major in Mathematics.

Besides school, he works 15-20 hours a week, for extra 'play money'.  And he has problems sorting, handling all the distracting, hot babes who want to bang HIM!

And he's funny as hell...

Oh, and remember,  when a woman's preggars, not only can she eat whatever the hell she wants,  but she also has free license to be meaner than a bobcat in a burlap bag!!!


Thanks I guess.


But my girlfriend and our baby are 100 percent healthy.


She has three doctors.... one from the fertility clinic, one from her insurance and one that I pay as a consultant more or less....he is supposed to be the best at delivering babies in medellin. But since there has been zero issues or health problems with her or the baby. We are just going to have the baby delivered at the hospital that is covered by her insurance.
The hospital has a good reputation and the only thing they do at this hospital is deliver babies so they are probably pretty good at it.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on March 07, 2018, 07:47:55 AM
There is nothing I miss about living in the USA
Absolutely nothing

When you have zero need for local women the usa is actually pretty nice. If i was going to local bars in my 30s then it might be drpressing, but that's why I think working the sugar angle is really paying off for some.

I gotta say the new house i built with geothermal, radiant floor heating, and many other perks is pretty fantastic to come home to. The food, commute, and life overall is better. The downside for you here would be the women. But you could play the sugar angle with college girls too.

Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 07, 2018, 09:09:35 AM
When you have zero need for local women the usa is actually pretty nice. If i was going to local bars in my 30s then it might be drpressing, but that's why I think working the sugar angle is really paying off for some.

I gotta say the new house i built with geothermal, radiant floor heating, and many other perks is pretty fantastic to come home to. The food, commute, and life overall is better. The downside for you here would be the women. But you could play the sugar angle with college girls too.


I liked American women when I was in my teens all the way to my early 30's. They were pretty good to me and well they paid half or more of the rent. jajaja


My first wife was topless dancer and we pretty much partied for three years straight before splitting up. At the time I thought it was as good as it gets and I was actually happy with the situation.


Now I'm older and wiser....there is no upside to American women on any level compared to Colombian women unless you want or need a second pay check.


Some American women are good but they are on the whole not worth my time even if they are young and beautiful.


I watch a show called house hunters were couples are looking to buy a nice home. You see guys looking to buy very nice homes and then you look are their wives. Holy [snip]! jajaja


And then you have the TV shows like everybody loves Ramon....where the poor bastard doesn't ever know if he is going to get any from his wife when they are in bed at the end of the show. LOL


I prefer to watch Colombian TV where the husband makes out with the maid as soon as his wife leaves the room. jajaja


The stuff they put on Colombian TV could never be shown on American TV....you couldn't even put the name of the show Sin Tetas no hay paraiso on American TV or women would revolt. It would be banned as sexist objectification of women. jajaja


At any rate I hope you enjoy your heated flooring.....me....I've got other plans.
Title: Re: Wow this place still
Post by: utopiacowboy on March 07, 2018, 09:37:07 AM
I remember when my first Colombian wife told me that Colombians love their families more than Americans do

I said how can you say something like that and she told me that Colombians are much more involved in the daily lives of their family members and they obviously care more about each other

I said don’t you think the fact that you depend on each other financially and your family is really the only safety net you have in colombia has something to do with the fact that you are so involved in each other’s personal lives
And she said no I don’t

I believe I was right but I also believe she believes Colombians love their families more than Americans


I had this whole argument with my wife as well. Most Latinos believe the same thing. Of course we see my children and grandkids way more than she sees her own children so what's up with that? I spend almost every moment with them so I think that has pretty much knocked the wind out of her sails.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 08, 2018, 05:52:45 PM
seeking arrangement girl of the week manu595


Says she wants someone that makes her smile....Who doesn't? jajaja
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Elexpatriado on March 08, 2018, 06:07:22 PM
It’s hard to shake the loser mentality on this board sometimes when lt comes to women and relationships jajaja

I mean isn’t it the women that watch the guys to keep them from cheating

The point I was trying to make is that if you live with a chick there just isn’t a lot of opportunity to cheat and women that agree to live with you probably do like sleeping with so why worry about them having a boyfriend

But fighting the culture of male victimization on this board is a full time job. Jajaja

I mean really when you are the cat with the cash and you can get just as many hot chicks as she can get dicks.....who logically holds the upper hand in the relationship ..... I mean assuming you aren’t Expat

jajaja

But I can empathize with Expat a bit
Because if I told my girlfriend I was going hiking in the wilderness for a few days and she wasn’t invited
I’d have relationship problems as well

As far as living with a women that works in Colombia
I personally would never do it
Has to be the worst return on investment posible
Let’s see about 200 hours a month spent away from you including travel time for an extra 300 dólares a month   Forget it
If I did care if she worked   I would care if she lived somewhere else jajaja

For a guy that is suposedly happy you surehave thishang up about me....

No problem I aint complaining..

Yeah I am gonna invite a Colombiana who hasnt sen snow to climb 4000 or 5000 feet a day and ski down glaciers and couloirs..not to.mention the Visa issues..
Title: This one isn't your everyday floozy
Post by: Calipro on March 09, 2018, 12:21:48 AM
Says she has a Bachelors Degree and no children.
Her name is Flaka20 but she is 26.
And best of all her lifestyle expectations are minimal.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: ignorante on March 09, 2018, 05:28:50 AM
Wow!   :D   What is "minimal?"
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 09, 2018, 11:29:02 AM
Wow!   :D   What is "minimal?"


According to the website up to thousand dollars a month.


But when you have a chick around 24/7 everything is more expensive.
Want a burger...now you have to buy two....want to watch the game at the local pub double the bar bill. etc. etc.


I guess you could set it up where she isn't with you all the time but then you have to start paying for taxi fare and what if you wake up with a hard on and she isn't there.


Probably best to just take skiing trips and forget about women altogether. jajaja
To much pain for very little gain. LOL!
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on March 10, 2018, 10:40:01 AM
Here is what a 28 year old blonde chick from Beverly Hills, California wrote on her profile on the S.A. site:

"My ideal gentleman is upscale and mature. You are quick to give gifts and understand that an allowance is important, but just one part of our relationship.

After being on this site for a while, I've realized being specific about expectations is important. I am looking for a monthly allowance and assistance with housing and a new car."

Much cheaper for a guy to do seek out this sort of thing in Colombia or Latin America in general.


Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: buencamino3 on March 10, 2018, 04:52:22 PM
28 is really kind of over the hill in Colombia. I don't think many women that age (they wouldn't be called girls anymore) would get offers of being mantenida with a car thrown in. The girls I know of who get those kind of offers tend to max out at around 26.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 10, 2018, 07:47:47 PM
28 is really kind of over the hill in Colombia. I don't think many women that age (they wouldn't be called girls anymore) would get offers of being mantenida with a car thrown in. The girls I know of who get those kind of offers tend to max out at around 26.

Hell, in the Philippines,  if you're a female and not married by age 27, you're viewed as some kind of damaged goods. It's changing a bit, especially in the bigger cities, particularly with women working for big corporations, but even there, the expectation to get married and make babies is still real.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 10, 2018, 10:30:05 PM
Hell, in the Philippines,  if you're a female and not married by age 27, you're viewed as some kind of damaged goods. It's changing a bit, especially in the bigger cities, particularly with women working for big corporations, but even there, the expectation to get married and make babies is still real.

I hear in Japan they call women over 25 Christmas cake
The clear indication is how many days after the 25 do you still want to be eating it  Jajaja
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: benjio on March 11, 2018, 10:46:04 AM
28 is really kind of over the hill in Colombia. I don't think many women that age (they wouldn't be called girls anymore) would get offers of being mantenida with a car thrown in. The girls I know of who get those kind of offers tend to max out at around 26.


You'd be surprised. It's really all about looks. I've seen and know of several women in Colombia in the 28 - 35 year old range that were being taken care of. The only difference is they tend to venture out of the Western Hemisphere to look for sponsors. Americans, Canadians and Australians usually have no interest in women of a certain age in Latin America. But a woman that's previously been kept...one that's always had access to the best gyms, eats well, doesn't drink or smoke, can buy the most expensive makeups, has a beautiful wardrobe, a few cosmetic surgeries and has always been naturally beautiful? Those types of women can still go to France, Italy, GB, Germany, Dubai, etc. and land well-to-do 60 year old's that will pay their bills if their boyfriend can fly to Medellin and hit that a$$ once a month. This is what happens when sugardaddies trade up for younger models. I'm thinking of one woman in particular that's in exactly that situation. The older Brazilian GDP's go for the rich oil guys in Angola, the maritime tycoons in Mozambique and a ton of them can be found in Dubai as well. What these women all have in common is even though they'll blow your mind in bed they have absolutely no interest in marriage. All they want to do is maintain their lifestyle. as long as they possibly can.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 11, 2018, 04:39:22 PM
When you have zero need for local women the usa is actually pretty nice. If i was going to local bars in my 30s then it might be drpressing, but that's why I think working the sugar angle is really paying off for some.

I gotta say the new house i built with geothermal, radiant floor heating, and many other perks is pretty fantastic to come home to. The food, commute, and life overall is better. The downside for you here would be the women. But you could play the sugar angle with college girls too.

Is the heating in the floor from heated water? The late great and legendary architect Frank Llyod Wright used that technique in some of his earlier designed homes. It was good in theory, but  not long term practical. One of his homes was on the same block as my parent's home. When the pipes went bad, they had to tear the entire floor up. It was expensive marble, exotic wood too.

If it doesn't just wear out, any earthquakes normal to the area, or where the oil industry is fracking, causing the same, and it'll cost you.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 11, 2018, 05:30:27 PM

You'd be surprised. It's really all about looks. I've seen and know of several women in Colombia in the 28 - 35 year old range that were being taken care of. The only difference is they tend to venture out of the Western Hemisphere to look for sponsors. Americans, Canadians and Australians usually have no interest in women of a certain age in Latin America. But a woman that's previously been kept...one that's always had access to the best gyms, eats well, doesn't drink or smoke, can buy the most expensive makeups, has a beautiful wardrobe, a few cosmetic surgeries and has always been naturally beautiful? Those types of women can still go to France, Italy, GB, Germany, Dubai, etc. and land well-to-do 60 year old's that will pay their bills if their boyfriend can fly to Medellin and hit that a$$ once a month. This is what happens when sugardaddies trade up for younger models. I'm thinking of one woman in particular that's in exactly that situation. The older Brazilian GDP's go for the rich oil guys in Angola, the maritime tycoons in Mozambique and a ton of them can be found in Dubai as well. What these women all have in common is even though they'll blow your mind in bed they have absolutely no interest in marriage. All they want to do is maintain their lifestyle. as long as they possibly can.

Some of the younger women are good lovers, but they all too often make a lot of (to me) annoying, non verbal noises about their own sex enjoyment and don't have the moves, the sexy talk, know how, where and when it's their turn to grab you. I don't wanna be making love and for half an hour, hearing barnyard like noises, or endless: "OMG"s...

Best lovers I've had were between 30 and 50 y/o. While almost all, regardless of age were determined to please me, the older women really knew how to 'push my buttons' a lot better,  both of us reading the other, getting inside each other's heads. The largest sex organ is the brain, typically.

On the other hand, 'some' young women learn fast--(Jewish girls, holy cow!) are willing to learn how YOU like it and pick up fast on their own urges.

My wife was a virgin and we've written our own private 'book'--first about what I like and have taught her, but I've learned also what she's found rocks her world, which makes mine happy as well.

Never paid for sex, but from my wife's umm, 'dedication' I can see why some hookers in her country,  especially outside of Manila and Cebu, will reject the prearranged 'fee' if they don't get you off.

Marvelous work ethic!

But while some here talk about how you pay for sex, even if it's via paying for  dinner, flowers, clothes, phones, etc., I don't get it why outside the USA and other 1st world nations, any guy has to 'pay to play'

Even in 3rd world nations, until I becamne engaged, I never sent a cent for chat/cam time, phones, etc. In 3rd world places, I did cover hotels, and then resorts, meals, even a bit of clothing, if I liked seeing them in it. (And it came off easily, LOL)

Even in Europe, it wasn't like that for me--I basically paid my half , and it was a helluva a lot of fun too.

There, and in the USA, (not so much in3rd world nations)   I probably had women spending at least as much of their money as mine on activities and material things we were into. They were my "hostesses"...

And it wasn't like I was some kinda wannabe pimp--I just usually ended up with nice babes who at least went with the  'Dutch Arrangement" on expenses.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on March 12, 2018, 07:22:53 AM
Here is what a 28 year old blonde chick from Beverly Hills, California wrote on her profile on the S.A. site:

"My ideal gentleman is upscale and mature. You are quick to give gifts and understand that an allowance is important, but just one part of our relationship.

After being on this site for a while, I've realized being specific about expectations is important. I am looking for a monthly allowance and assistance with housing and a new car."

Much cheaper for a guy to do seek out this sort of thing in Colombia or Latin America in general.

That's actually a long conversation. Maybe look outside of beverly hills. Some girls go to community college and need $1500 to $2k a semester to pay for it. Plus she has to pay her half of the rent for a two bedroom apartment. So in some areas ive been told some of these girls are excited about a lot less. And since most guys can max their income in the usa (and there is a travel cost to visit latin america) it might be most feasible in parts of the usa.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on March 12, 2018, 07:28:09 AM
Is the heating in the floor from heated water? The late great and legendary architect Frank Llyod Wright used that technique in some of his earlier designed homes. It was good in theory, but  not long term practical. One of his homes was on the same block as my parent's home. When the pipes went bad, they had to tear the entire floor up. It was expensive marble, exotic wood too.

If it doesn't just wear out, any earthquakes normal to the area, or where the oil industry is fracking, causing the same, and it'll cost you.

Pipes? Lol you might want to do your research. It's 2018 and things have changed since then. All sorts of folks who can afford it heat their floors in cold climates.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 12, 2018, 01:33:22 PM
Pipes? Lol you might want to do your research. It's 2018 and things have changed since then. All sorts of folks who can afford it heat their floors in cold climates.

Plenty of builders in the USA are STILL entombing various plumbing, various pipes in the concrete, 'monolithic slabs' the homes stand upon. My house, built in 2000 just happens to be one of them. Wright just happened to route the lines that carried hot water under high traffic areas. Putting pipes in the slab to a large extent, is still a necessity.

That said, the wonderful 1st house I had, craftsman built in the 1920s, leaded glass windows, glass knobbed electric fuses, plaster walls and all, had a different set uo, thank God.

Worst 'non investment' I never made. Sold it after a few years for not much more than we paid, wanting more room for kids to run, ride bikes etc. It's value tripled in about 5 years after we sold it, as it was close to all the 'cool' places-- trendy restaurants, shopping, yoga studios, etc. Location, location, location....
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on March 12, 2018, 08:46:11 PM
That's actually a long conversation. Maybe look outside of beverly hills. Some girls go to community college and need $1500 to $2k a semester to pay for it. Plus she has to pay her half of the rent for a two bedroom apartment. So in some areas ive been told some of these girls are excited about a lot less. And since most guys can max their income in the usa (and there is a travel cost to visit latin america) it might be most feasible in parts of the usa.

Yeah, I realize the Beverly Hills chick was an outlier. Was just posting it to show what is out there. I am sure there is room for "bargain hunters" on the site as well. 
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on March 13, 2018, 08:56:40 PM
For those who have used a site like "seeking arrangement" or those that know someone who has:

-What difference, if ANY, is there between old fashioned prostitution and the "arrangements" on these sugar daddy sites?

I don't see much of a difference and I am not knocking anyone (male or female) for participating.

From glancing at the S.A. site I see a few women explicity stating only "emotional" support but the vast majority leave it opened ended enough that you know for the right price the money will get you the honey.

Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 14, 2018, 12:31:20 AM
For those who have used a site like "seeking arrangement" or those that know someone who has:

-What difference, if ANY, is there between old fashioned prostitution and the "arrangements" on these sugar daddy sites?

I don't see much of a difference and I am not knocking anyone (male or female) for participating.

From glancing at the S.A. site I see a few women explicity stating only "emotional" support but the vast majority leave it opened ended enough that you know for the right price the money will get you the honey.


I have never looked at any of the American women's profiles so I guess that is why I have never seen the "only emotional support" stipulation. LOL


If I was going to use the website I would use it strictly to meet Colombian women.


I think that when people talk about prostitution they usually think of a woman selling sex for a certain price and nothing more. In Colombia at least when you keep a girl you are buying a relationship. In the US if you pay a lot....you might get a girlfriend experience....in  Colombia for relatively little money you can get the full blown wife experience.


I don't really know how else to explain how guys I know in Medellin...that are in their 60's and have been living with women in their 20's for years.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on March 14, 2018, 07:43:44 AM

I have never looked at any of the American women's profiles so I guess that is why I have never seen the "only emotional support" stipulation. LOL

Yes, I was referring to profiles of women in the U.S.A.

If I was going to use the website I would use it strictly to meet Colombian women. I think that when people talk about prostitution they usually think of a woman selling sex for a certain price and nothing more. In Colombia at least when you keep a girl you are buying a relationship. In the US if you pay a lot....you might get a girlfriend experience....in  Colombia for relatively little money you can get the full blown wife experience. I don't really know how else to explain how guys I know in Medellin...that are in their 60's and have been living with women in their 20's for years.


Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

As for those 60 plus guys with 20-somethings in Medellin....damn, damn and damn. LOL.

I need to go back to Medellin.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on March 14, 2018, 07:58:15 AM
I was at a business lunch the other day in one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Los Angeles.

Sitting to our right was this smoking hot blonde chick who looked about 40 or so. I am not even into blondes but this woman was haught with a body to make most 25 year old women jealous. She was having lunch with a bald guy who looked 65 or older.

I often chalk seeing couples like that to: agent with model/actress client or business associates or trophy wife of wealthy business man or film producer.

Now having seen S.A. the sugar baby site I think: Yes a business lunch but he is paying for more than lunch. He is paying for her time and services.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 14, 2018, 08:44:12 AM



I think that when people talk about prostitution they usually think of a woman selling sex for a certain price and nothing more. In Colombia at least when you keep a girl you are buying a relationship. In the US if you pay a lot....you might get a girlfriend experience....in  Colombia for relatively little money you can get the full blown wife experience.


I don't really know how else to explain how guys I know in Medellin...that are in their 60's and have been living with women in their 20's for years.
J

That's what I call an excellent 'package deal'.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Calipro on March 14, 2018, 12:04:46 PM
I was at a business lunch the other day in one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Los Angeles.

Sitting to our right was this smoking hot blonde chick who looked about 40 or so. I am not even into blondes but this woman was haught with a body to make most 25 year old women jealous. She was having lunch with a bald guy who looked 65 or older.

I often chalk seeing couples like that to: agent with model/actress client or business associates or trophy wife of wealthy business man or film producer.

Now having seen S.A. the sugar baby site I think: Yes a business lunch but he is paying for more than lunch. He is paying for her time and services.


Apparently the term Sugar Daddy can be stretched out quite a bit to include many relationships.


According to bcc_1_2.....I'm a Sugar Daddy even though my younger girlfriend is having my baby.


I guess the only way to get away from classified as a Sugar Daddy is to date women your own age (yuck) or live with women that make as much or more money than you do (damn near impossible).


At this point in my life...I'll happily wear the Sugar Daddy badge and laugh at the guys that had to settle in the attractiveness of their woman so they can gain an extra paycheck. jajaja


And for the scant few that actually have woman that is more attractive than mine and still brings home the bacon.....well I'll tip my hat to you. LOL
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: utopiacowboy on March 14, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
The only guy I know who is not a Sugar Daddy to some degree is my son, who recently married a mega millionaire. (With no prenup either!). Other than him almost every woman in a relationship depends on a man for financial support to some degree.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 14, 2018, 02:51:03 PM
The only guy I know who is not a Sugar Daddy to some degree is my son, who recently married a mega millionaire. (With no prenup either!). Other than him almost every woman in a relationship depends on a man for financial support to some degree.

Wish him luck. My older son has an unnerving tendacy to date mega hot, trustfund queens from a local, very expensive private university. Quite a few lovely equestrian dolls, some have the family personal jet come to pick them up. Almost inevitably, the 'love affair', actually more accurately the 'infatuation' that went up like a roman candle, comes crashing down just as fast. Time, time, time is tough test.

My other son tends to atttact more stable, but also very cerebral (highly intelligent) exotic beauties from overseas, but they're  here in the USA, studying high levels of Computer Science, Artificial Intelligence and Math. But that son can take them or leave them. He's a gent,  but doesn't  let his cock have greater power than his brain. He'll probably start at above $115,000 fresh out of school and that's the prize he's focused on now.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: bcc_1_2 on March 14, 2018, 04:00:52 PM

Apparently the term Sugar Daddy can be stretched out quite a bit to include many relationships.


According to bcc_1_2.....I'm a Sugar Daddy even though my younger girlfriend is having my baby.


I guess the only way to get away from classified as a Sugar Daddy is to date women your own age (yuck) or live with women that make as much or more money than you do (damn near impossible).


At this point in my life...I'll happily wear the Sugar Daddy badge and laugh at the guys that had to settle in the attractiveness of their woman so they can gain an extra paycheck. jajaja


And for the scant few that actually have woman that is more attractive than mine and still brings home the bacon.....well I'll tip my hat to you. LOL

Eeh are we that concerned with labels? I think guys shoukd use the site with their agenda, so im by no means against the label or site.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 14, 2018, 04:46:30 PM
Eeh are we that concerned with labels? I think guys shoukd use the site with their agenda, so im by no means against the label or site.

I think labels generally limit a person's mindset. We all have standards and parameters in who we choose to mate with, who we choose as 'friends'. If I didn't reach outside of the standards and parameters I rudimentary set up in my own mind, my life would be lot worse off. So many variations out there...
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: benjio on March 14, 2018, 04:57:43 PM
There are downsides you'd never imagine to having a woman that's in no need of your financial support. Those types of situations are ten times worse in the states. They are usually manageable in Latin America because ultimately its family money. Selfmade women SOTB? Goodness gracious...I'm sure they exist but has anyone here ever run across one that wasn't a celebrity. There are days when CaliPro's situation is a lot more attractive to me than my own. All relationships are compromises and in any fair compromise both parties are giving something up. I can always make more money. Peace of mind is priceless.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: robert angel on March 14, 2018, 06:43:08 PM
There are downsides you'd never imagine to having a woman that's in no need of your financial support. Those types of situations are ten times worse in the states

Yes, after my foreign born 1st wife became very 'americanized'-- overly enamored with material things and was making more money than me, the writing was on the wall.
 
When a couple other things got rough, she really didn't 'need' me anymore. She didn't respect me like before. We argued more about money when we had enough than when we didn't. Money's F___ng evil.

Just as in chess, it's often the same in a USA divorce-- the player who moves first has a strategic advantage. So I filed. Ironically with me having our kids more than her, I turned down her lawyer's offer of child support. I never asked, neither did my lawyer--- Her lawyer did, to my amazement.

I thought seeing how she was 'all about the benjamins'---that my saying "Thanks, but no thanks" would be good move towards she and I developing a somewhat civil relationship to model for our sons. But maybe instead, it made it worse somehow. I didn't need it then or now, but I should've taken the money and put it away into a little trust the kids can't tap till they're 55. A little can become a lot in 40 or so years...

My second wife and I, together over 12 years now, are at about the same point timewise to where my first marriage really started to unravel.  As a female and an ethnic minority,  she's about to bust through the salary 'glass ceiling'  at her company, which just got bought out by the biggest player in her area ---a Fortune 200 ranked company that is ALL about ramping up her area.  They do 60% of their medical-dental machinery, tool & material sales on-line, while my wife's company, used to human sales reps driving or using phones, does less than 2% on-line So they're expanding their new Ecommerce platform in the USA and into Mexico and Canada. She's been in with the mainly foreign sources developers that created the new platform since day one. Other than for pricey, after they finished 'remote' service, they're gone now, but she knows where the inevitable platform 'bugs' are, knows the products as much as anyone, their pricing structures.

She just got back from 4 days in Dallas, presenting the 'new system' to the entire company. Nervous as hell, the 'suits' from the new owner company there and all, (the billionaire CEO had his chair flown in from NYC, LOL) she nailed it, just like we planned. She'd be crazy to quit now, walking away before age 40 when she's in such a good spot. She actually likes her work and I'm always there to help via remote, 'proof reading' critical reports, correspondence, etc. We've got each other's backs and like she does (did) with my work, I help her to manage the few Machiavellian bitch, bastard types at her company --- people who might try to rain on her parade, so to speak. Five, maybe ten years max., she'll walk away, retiring before age 45 or 50. God willing. If it all fell apart there, we'd be OK, just maybe not fat, on my dime.

She's earned it--- I'm sending her this summer to get her family, take them around the best spots in the Philippines, then to Macau, China, Hong Kong and Disney Land. Her Mom's never been out of the country.

I'm very glad she's sooo very different than my ex. She acted like I got her a two carat diamond, because I had the house still clean when she got back and had changed the bed linens, LOL.

But hey, I paradoxically always try to remember that nothing lasts forever and try to be more thankful for the here and now.

The human brain is typically consumed almost completely in thinking, planning, worrying about the future, or thinking, reminscing  or ruminating about the past.

While I cant stop from counting down the 45 more work days I have until I "retire" from my job, I'm trying more to just hear my own breathing, listen to my heart, and enjoy the moment.
Title: Re: Wow this place still exists
Post by: Hector_Lavoe on March 14, 2018, 08:57:33 PM

At this point in my life...I'll happily wear the Sugar Daddy badge and laugh at the guys that had to settle in the attractiveness of their woman so they can gain an extra paycheck. jajaja


Yeah, I see nothing wrong with your approach at all. A far better situation than what most guys in the states in our age bracket have going for them.

I am just jealous you are able to spend so much time in Colombia and you are only about 4 or 5 years older than me. I am nowhere near being able to have a flex work schedule that allows huge chunks of time in South America. Are you semi-retired or something?