colombia and EU 90 day limit, no visa

[mudd]

wondering if this will ever get going. i already know 6 girls in my facebook who are planning on going to the EU and working and not leaving after the  90 day limit.

[Elexpatriado]

They could pretend they are Syrians,,,


My guess is they will be ruining it for all the other Colombians.


Thats the problem with these Liberal countries..never follow up on expulsions for Visa cheaters,,,if someone gets into Canada, they will probably be in there for life, unless they leave the country of their own volition..

[whitey]

They could pretend they are Syrians,,,


My guess is they will be ruining it for all the other Colombians.


Thats the problem with these Liberal countries..never follow up on expulsions for Visa cheaters,,,if someone gets into Canada, they will probably be in there for life, unless they leave the country of their own volition..

The gov't has started to toughen up here in Canada the last 3 years or so Elex, but what you are saying was VERY true until recently. 


I have had 3 good Colombian friends/families shipped back to Colombia lately after their refugee claims were denied.  One was a young wealthy family who were threatened after a grandfather was murdered by extortionists.  Too many liars in the past make it tough on the ones with real situations.


My wife knows several more through her circle of friends and acquaintances here.

[utopiacowboy]

This reminds me of the time I met my then Mexican girlfriend in Monterrey at the airport. She had gotten off a flight that was continuing to Houston and she said the plane was filled with Mexicans with tourist visas. I asked her how many of them she thought would overstay their visits. "Oh all of them!" she replied!

[bcc_1_2]

This reminds me of the time I met my then Mexican girlfriend in Monterrey at the airport. She had gotten off a flight that was continuing to Houston and she said the plane was filled with Mexicans with tourist visas. I asked her how many of them she thought would overstay their visits. "Oh all of them!" she replied!

There are lots of Mexicanas that love to visit the States, but would never want to leave Mexico. But your point is valid. The immigration problem deals more with air travel rather than the sneaking across the border.

[mudd]

way back, it was pretty easy for a comombian to get a tourist visa to travel to the US , but soo many abused the system and never went back home , the govt cracked down and made it very difficult to get one. they have relaxed it since but again, now some are staying for over a year and working and not returning.  europe might do the same after they see how many never go home after the 90 days. colombians dont have the best reputation when it comes to visas lol

[V_Man]

My wife is almost "desperately" waiting for this EU tourist visa process to start.
I occasionally travel to the EU for business and last time I had to leave her home alone, because most business requirements don't have enough forward notice to go through any visa application process.


My wife is sure that her fellow Colombians are going to stuff up this opportunity in several ways. She thinks that it is just a matter of time before the EU reverse this decision due to the poor behaviour of too many Colombians. She is sure that there will be a flood of overstayers. She also believes that there will be plenty of Colombians doing doggy things, like stealing. She points at all the problems Colombians are creating in Chile as an example.


There is even an element of that here in Australia.

[V_Man]

In Melbourne, Australia there was a gang holding up random people on the street at knife point in the central city. That sort of thing can happen in Melbourne, but it's extremely rare. Then there was a whole serious of these crimes. They were eventually caught due to their own stupidity and found to be a few Colombians here on student visas.

It comes back to this Colombian attitude that it is OK to take advantage of someone if the opportunity presents itself.
For example, there is an online community of Colombians in Sydney. A bunch of them were talking about how to cheat the metro system and stay one step ahead of the inspectors. My wife went on there and gave them a piece of her mind.

This stuff screws it up for other Colombians who want to have opportunities.

[mudd]

your going to see a flood of young Colombian  girls heading to EU to work in........ well lets say " hotel and entertainment industry " lol


already seen some heading to mexico to work.


 friend asked me last week what i thought about a job offer she received in mexico, working in a casino as a " companion" when male guests were gambling.  i almost started laughing and had to explain to her,  thats another word or job description for " call girl or prepago "  she didnt like it lol.

[Awesome]

The US and especially my hometown has a huge Colombian population and I've never heard of Colombians being a problem regarding crime or anything else.




I'm sure the EU officials who passed the law did their homework and have reached the conclusion that the positives far outweigh the negatives.


These Colombians with tourist permits aren't going to be able to enter the EU workforce in anything other than cheap unskilled labor where they'll be competing with illegal immigrants from eastern Europe and Africa.  The only country where an average Colombian might be able to assimilate and find a decent job would be Spain and their economy isn't exactly booming at this point in time.  I've read reports where young Spanish professionals have been looking to immigrate to Latin America if search of employment.




The only plausible negative I can think of would be if quite a few Colombian women travel to the EU, have kids there, then start drawing welfare benefits.

[robert angel]

This reminds me of the time I met my then Mexican girlfriend in Monterrey at the airport. She had gotten off a flight that was continuing to Houston and she said the plane was filled with Mexicans with tourist visas. I asked her how many of them she thought would overstay their visits. "Oh all of them!" she replied!

It was in the news a few days ago that deportation of illegal aliens in the USA is the lowest it's been since 2006. A lot of people probably know it too. Sort of irks those who've paid thousands of dollars, went though interviews, exams, screening, taking lots of time to do it legally.

[Gavan]

This is for both Colombians and Peruvians. It think it is mostly because the economies of those countries have improved somewhat and the EU thinks they aren't as likely to want to stay now (not sure how true that is though).

"The significant improvements accomplished by Colombia and Peru in many areas in recent years mean that it is no longer justified to maintain a visa obligation on citizens of these countries visiting the Schengen area for short stays. By abolishing the visa obligation we will be fostering mobility and people-to-people contacts – something that is fundamental to reinforce the social and economic development and mutual understanding between the EU and other countries",said Cecilia Malmström, Commissioner for Home Affairs.

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-14-1208_en.htm

[Awesome]

This topic made me wonder if Mexicans require a visa to travel to the EU, so after a quick google search it appears that Mexicans don't need one nor do most other latin countries.  I guess since the EU hasn't become inundated with Nicaraguans, Mexicans, Hondurans, El Salvadoreans, all of which don't need a visa to enter, they figure that Colombians and Peruvians won't become a problem either.




Probably the only Colombians who will benefit monetarily from this are mudd's female "friends".

[Gavan]

This topic made me wonder if Mexicans require a visa to travel to the EU, so after a quick google search it appears that Mexicans don't need one nor do most other latin countries.  I guess since the EU hasn't become inundated with Nicaraguans, Mexicans, Hondurans, El Salvadoreans, all of which don't need a visa to enter, they figure that Colombians and Peruvians won't become a problem either.




Probably the only Colombians who will benefit monetarily from this are mudd's female "friends".

No, Mexicans don't need a visa and you're right, there aren't that many latinos here in Western-Europe at all.

Southern-Europe does already have quite a lot of South-American immigrants though (mostly Colombian, Peruvian and Ecuadorian), especially Spain. There are lots of Peruvians living in Italy too for some reason.


https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emigración_peruana


https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emigración_colombiana

[Elexpatriado]

A lot of Colombians and other nationalities of middle and lower economic estratos have these dreams to go to Canada, Us or Europe to work. But they have enough trouble scraping togeteher enough cash for the airfare...unless they get some Gringo or Euro to pay for mit.

[buencamino]

The visa requirement for Colombians to visit la Rpublica Dominica is supposed to have been eliminated. Haven't followed up so don't know if it has. Acording to Presdent Santos the "Shengan Visa" allowing Colombians to visit most of Europe becomes "vigente" in January 2016 Esta en veremos...