the mistakes many men make going south.

[Calipro]

The gloves are off now

Dont forgot you started it CP....everytime he posts something you attack

He has buen quite constrained Up to now

Constrained is a good word to describe mudd


I don't really think he has it in him to have an in depth discussion or attack on anything

I admit that I make fun of mudds pathetic view of the world ....but I don't think I have  said anything that is really out of line

He is entitled to his opinions and I'm entitled to question them and his motives

[robert angel]

You might want to put the gloves back on. I thought the word was 'constipated'

[Elexpatriado]

I think Mudd should be a spoke person for the MGTOW movement. jajaja


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I could write a book on how much better it is for men in general in Colombia vs the US when it comes to intergender relationships....so it is hard to really take anyone seriously when the talk about the potential pitfalls of Colombian women....without looking at what is going on in the US on a daily basis.


It just shows how completely out of touch he is with the overall situation.


I guess Mudd's advice is relevant for guys living in his small corner of the world...but it doesn't really make sense when you look at the big picture and the other options men have now a days.


Unless of course you want to join Mudd's MGTOW movement. LOL!

You know, if I head the Choice beteen a happy MGTOW and a a frustrated "Alpha male player"..I know what I would pick...

Are you happy Cali?  Diga la verdad?

[Elexpatriado]

Are we havin fun yet???

[buencamino3]

Just a small correction. The Dutch guy spent about a year and a half in jail for child pornography. He was accused of taking nude photos of his companion's fifteen year old daughter. Said companion was a prostitute he met when he arrived in Colombia. Anyway he was never accused of rape that I know of.

[Researcher]

You know, if I head the Choice beteen a happy MGTOW and a a frustrated "Alpha male player"..I know what I would pick...

Are you happy Cali?  Diga la verdad?

I love watching the MGTOW youtube videos.

[Calipro]

Are you happy Cali?  Diga la verdad?

I think I'm relatively happy.....I was happier when I was younger....but I would have a hard time thinking of anyone (I know personally that was my age) that I would trade places with.


I have a friend that is about a year younger than me that is quite wealthy and has a smoking hot calena for a wife. So if I was going to trade places it would be with him I guess.


I would certainly be much less happy without Colombia. I mean I wouldn't spend so much time there if is bummed me out that is for sure. jajaja

[Elexpatriado]

Yeah.. I am Pretty happpy in Colombia too ....

And Not just for the women..

In reality I could be happpy hanging around Any  Latin American country


Well see how this Tax issue with DIAN evolves.could put a very big damper on hanging out in Colombia..

[TechGromit]

There is NO substitute for time. Given time, the details, the 'bad side' inevitably comes out.

Can't help to wonder if you serious about a girl, hiring a private detective to find detailed information about her would be a good investment.  After all your investing a lot of time and money to meet the right woman for you, it be useful to know she's really just after you for your money.   

[benjio]

Can't help to wonder if you serious about a girl, hiring a private detective to find detailed information about her would be a good investment.  After all your investing a lot of time and money to meet the right woman for you, it be useful to know she's really just after you for your money.   

Latinas, at least those actually living in Latin America are extremely transparent. Bad girls in LA may be unfaithful, dishonest and deceitful, but they aren't anywhere close to the level of manipulation a beautiful American Woman has trained herself to use if you have something she want. If you ever feel the need to hire a private investigator it's probably because you've already picked up on some signs giving you the impression something is amiss. In those situations it's time to sit down and have a real conversation in person, looking your girl dead in the eye (she's going to lie anyway but again, these girl's body language, mannerisms, etc. give them away immediately), or just cut bait and recast your line. There's entirely too many fish in the sea in places like Colombia, Mexico or Brazil. A private investigator that's licensed, you can trust and follows her around for any significant amount of time is going to be VERY expensive. A complete waste of money IMHO.

[utopiacowboy]

Latinas, at least those actually living in Latin America are extremely transparent. Bad girls in LA may be unfaithful, dishonest and deceitful, but they aren't anywhere close to the level of manipulation a beautiful American Woman has trained herself to use if you have something she want. If you ever feel the need to hire a private investigator it's probably because you've already picked up on some signs giving you the impression something is amiss. In those situations it's time to sit down and have a real conversation in person, looking your girl dead in the eye (she's going to lie anyway but again, these girl's body language, mannerisms, etc. give them away immediately), or just cut bait and recast your line. There's entirely too many fish in the sea in places like Colombia, Mexico or Brazil. A private investigator that's licensed, you can trust and follows her around for any significant amount of time is going to be VERY expensive. A complete waste of money IMHO.

Good post.


When I was in Colombia meeting my wife to be, I gave her a debit card for a bank account where I had a little money. I didn't want her borrowing money from friends and coworkers and I wanted to see what she would do with it. She took out $10 once in three months. This told me all I needed to know about whether she was in it for the money.

[Gato4Astrid]

I haven't read the rest of the postings, but Mudd made a very good point.  Ever heard the story about Thomas Edison?  A reporter once told him why wasting time when the light bulb won't work when trying for 1,000 times?   Edison's reply "I have not failed.  I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work"   


Every women whom I've met were potential failures for some reasons, and I knew it, but instead, I tried to make it work.


For some reasons, when you are meeting a woman for serious relationships, it is always best to stay in an apartment instead of hotel (unless you are meeting women for sex, friends, whatever).  For this reason, you will get to know her better in "real life" environment.  For example, does she cook, clean, or she watches TV in the sofa with you?   You cannot do that in the hotel otherwise you won't know if she likes, or be able to cook, or to enjoy sitting next to you in a sofa, cuddling and watching TV.  It is always nice to eat out in the restaurants, but not too much.  You need to stay at the apartment, cooking, watching TV at some of the nights.     When I met Astrid, we stayed at Prado61, Medellin, but it isn't an apartment, but also not a hotel.  It is more like a guesthouse.  Every night she wanted to go home to her house  (about 20 minutes drive to get there and 20 to get back), to see her children.  I really never had a night alone with her except the last night, where we ate pizza in Laurel 33.  At her house, she spent time chatting to her mother.  Can't she wait?  She had plenty of time, chatting to her mother, but every day for 3 weeks!!!   So, I knew our relationships won't work.


When comes to relationships, always make sure you spent time with her alone (sometimes/or with children but not with friends).  My 1st woman spent too much time with her "best friend", going shopping with her.  Even she discussed with her where to eat, and went in the restaurant, without my knowledge, and even was rude about ordering food telling me that I didn't ask !  Well, it is MY MONEY to spent!

[robert angel]

I haven't read the rest of the postings, but Mudd made a very good point.  Ever heard the story about Thomas Edison?  A reporter once told him why wasting time when the light bulb won't work when trying for 1,000 times?   Edison's reply "I have not failed.  I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work"   


Every women whom I've met were potential failures for some reasons, and I knew it, but instead, I tried to make it work.


For some reasons, when you are meeting a woman for serious relationships, it is always best to stay in an apartment instead of hotel (unless you are meeting women for sex, friends, whatever).  For this reason, you will get to know her better in "real life" environment.  For example, does she cook, clean, or she watches TV in the sofa with you?   You cannot do that in the hotel otherwise you won't know if she likes, or be able to cook, or to enjoy sitting next to you in a sofa, cuddling and watching TV.  It is always nice to eat out in the restaurants, but not too much.  You need to stay at the apartment, cooking, watching TV at some of the nights.     When I met Astrid, we stayed at Prado61, Medellin, but it isn't an apartment, but also not a hotel.  It is more like a guesthouse.  Every night she wanted to go home to her house  (about 20 minutes drive to get there and 20 to get back), to see her children.  I really never had a night alone with her except the last night, where we ate pizza in Laurel 33.  At her house, she spent time chatting to her mother.  Can't she wait?  She had plenty of time, chatting to her mother, but every day for 3 weeks!!!   So, I knew our relationships won't work.


When comes to relationships, always make sure you spent time with her alone (sometimes/or with children but not with friends).  My 1st woman spent too much time with her "best friend", going shopping with her.  Even she discussed with her where to eat, and went in the restaurant, without my knowledge, and even was rude about ordering food telling me that I didn't ask !  Well, it is MY MONEY to spent!

I've always thought hiring a private investigator wasn't a good, worthwhile idea. I could see how living in house or apartment beats a hotel--it's  more indicative of how she'll hopefully be in the 'real world' although even there, in the early months especially,  she---and you too, are almost all unusually well behaved, attentive, maybe she'll cook all the time, be romantic,  ready for sex anytime in a NY minute.

Marriage typically changes all or at least a lot of that, lol. Add kids and usually even more so.

But early into a relationship,  I think you can get valuable information from observing her family's dynamics and through meeting, getting to know, her friends. My wife has always kept a very small circle of friends but is on friendly terms with a lot of people in general back in her country, and here, including a lot from her country that now live in the USA.

She's seen the green card sharks, the girls who screw other guys behind their husband's backs and then think they're holier than thou, thinking going to church makes them pure, morally OK because their kids get good grades and stay out of trouble.

She knows, as I told her:

"Going to church no more makes you a Christian than does going into a garage makes you a car."

When we first met, there was one, not a 'close' friend, but someone she communicated with, who I didn't care for. We discussed it, including agreeing that her moral 'compass' was off--she was a cheat and a gold digger. My wife watched and it was always a kind of 'whoah' reaction, not admiration. But that was the exception, I knew, 'we knew' and it was never a deal breaker, no red flag in the big picture. But I knew, I saw the BIG picture.

No, not 100%---that's impossible. There's stuff about her, most cultural things, but probably a few personal things I still don't, maybe will NEVER know about. But as cars (I mean women)  come, she arrived exceedingly well built, immaculately maintained, a low mileage model. Not a flood salvage for sure.

Here in the USA, she's been close friends with someone I don't hate, but don't really care for. That 'friend' is also from her country and they've been friends for over ten years. At one time, they were company managers together at the same workplace.  She makes bad decisions, her husband's been in and out of rehab several times, is OCD ( heck, guess it's good she stands by him) his whole family's a mess and she's materialistic, a Facebook queen, a corporate climber cut throat. She covets everything 'fashionable' left and right. But like her one friend back home set a model for her not to treat me, Her friend and her husband, his family, they sort of set an example of issues on a number of levels, that we don't have in our daily lives. Humbles us, in a healthy way.

We'll still get together, even stay at their place in ultra swank West Palm Beach for a few days once a year, but yea, when we get back in the car and riding home, recounting it all, we're aware and glad, us knowing money can't buy happiness or make you immune to dramas.

[Gato4Astrid]

a Facebook queen

Numerous of times I've been asked to add their facebooks, but when comes to have 1,000+ friends, for example, I knew no potential relationships with them  them  (if they aren't work as bloggers etc)


At times, I accepted adding them  (to see how it goes, at least for few days), but when she did not look at my pages nor showed "like" in any of my photos etc, then it is "bye bye".


Once a 40 years old Peruvians added to my secondary facebook with only 11 friends  (won't added her in my main one), but she had 1,500 +.  She deleted me in few days, accusing me of having many women -  only 11 of them.   Guess what she has, almost all men!  Even she posted quite 'sexy' photos, and got more than hundreds likes and even she wrote "like" to every comments men wrote even these with "adult" words!!!   I told her that she had many men including photo taken with them and parties....... told me that she does what she wanted to do.... but accusing me of non-serious, womaniser when I did not even have any photos with women!!!


 

[robert angel]

Numerous of times I've been asked to add their facebooks, but when comes to have 1,000+ friends, for example, I knew no potential relationships with them  them  (if they aren't work as bloggers etc)


At times, I accepted adding them  (to see how it goes, at least for few days), but when she did not look at my pages nor showed "like" in any of my photos etc, then it is "bye bye".


Once a 40 years old Peruvians added to my secondary facebook with only 11 friends  (won't added her in my main one), but she had 1,500 +.  She deleted me in few days, accusing me of having many women -  only 11 of them.   Guess what she has, almost all men!  Even she posted quite 'sexy' photos, and got more than hundreds likes and even she wrote "like" to every comments men wrote even these with "adult" words!!!   I told her that she had many men including photo taken with them and parties....... told me that she does what she wanted to do.... but accusing me of non-serious, womaniser when I did not even have any photos with women!!!

Some people think that denial is only a river and that being two faced pertains just to siamese twins....

[Elexpatriado]

"Going to church no more makes you a Christian than does going into a garage makes you a car."
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[/size]I  like this one bettr
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[/size]"Being a "christian" no more makes you a good person than does going into a garage makes you a car."
[/size]
[/size]Especially true in Colombia

[Elexpatriado]

Numerous of times I've been asked to add their facebooks, but when comes to have 1,000+ friends, for example, I knew no potential relationships with them  them  (if they aren't work as bloggers etc)


At times, I accepted adding them  (to see how it goes, at least for few days), but when she did not look at my pages nor showed "like" in any of my photos etc, then it is "bye bye".


Once a 40 years old Peruvians added to my secondary facebook with only 11 friends  (won't added her in my main one), but she had 1,500 +.  She deleted me in few days, accusing me of having many women -  only 11 of them.   Guess what she has, almost all men!  Even she posted quite 'sexy' photos, and got more than hundreds likes and even she wrote "like" to every comments men wrote even these with "adult" words!!!   I told her that she had many men including photo taken with them and parties....... told me that she does what she wanted to do.... but accusing me of non-serious, womaniser when I did not even have any photos with women!!!

You guys are too obsessed with the "Facebook" crap. I dont even look at it. What a way to drain your brain.

[Calipro]

You guys are too obsessed with the "Facebook" crap. I dont even look at it. What a way to drain your brain.

What I can't get....is confusing facebook with reality and actually arguing with people you don't even know personally.


Think of facebook as a squeeze page....where you get contacts to meet people in REAL LIFE.


Then if you don't like them in person....by all means unfriend them. But don't confuse whats going on in facebook with the real world.


I've seen people that I know have very very few friends in real life that have hundreds on facebook. They look better act nicer and have way more interesting lives on facebook. jajaja

[robert angel]

I know facebook owns instagram, but my 20 year old son rarely uses facebook,  but uses instagram a bit more, as well as certain  other social apps. I ask my wife to call up his instagram to 'check in' although he can go weeks w/o adding anything, longer off of FB. But all social apps very minimally overall. He's lady killer handsome, tons of friends, but I think he disdains the artificialness of all the media app end of it.

But he's incredibly savvy on computers --he about totally gets: 'data and the bigger picture'. At the end of his 4 or 5 years in university, he'll be set up, degreed as a Data Scientist, cyber security being just a small component of that, Math being heavily used. I think we're going to set up VPN for our house next time he gets home. In a bigger city, he will START his first job at $115,000 and up. Dark web, data drips and drains, money trails, whether they be govt or crypto currency---he knows that stuff better than I know my smart phone. He built his own "PC' computer system, it's almost beyond description. Fastest Intel chips, capable of massive over clocking, (but no need to, even during video rendering)  uber fast, reliable SSD hard drives, backups for data and power, a graphics card so powerful it (I had NO idea it was possible)  can run 8000K resolution. At least it can when they release 8K media, LOL. It sits in a clear plexiglass, neon lit, well cooled w fans, yet silent while running the tower, running two 27 inch matte screen monitors that have an incredible 1ms response time, both synched and running vertically. He worked and saved, paid for probably 80% himself.

My 26 y/o son on the other hand, an "Applehead'-- a 'Macbook pro' user, uses fb a lot, as well as probably every other similar app. around--always up on the newest.

Both boys are music nuts, that's morphed into a social app scene in a way---their tasty Spotify and other app music play lists have a lot of followers. I got em early on into  lot of old school rock, soul, jazz, reggae, even early calypso, even telling them not to dismiss rap, hip hop (they never could get 'country'--not Hank sr., Merle, Johnny George J., S., or Garth) but nowadays, they're into stuff mostly off my radar.

But my younger son double majors in computer science and math at a top university and finds a lot of the apps a waste of time. He'd rather be gigging, playing jazz or playing chess in his spare time. He gets incredibly beautiful, uber smart babes, can date them a month or two and move on--no drama, no regret. My older son makes $300 to $500 a day, working 5 hours a day waiting tables on the 'rich and famous', has tons of time and visits friends all over north America, goes to all the multi day rock, music festivals, a lot of big concerts -- takes a lot of days off, so social media apps are a tool of sorts for meet ups and ticket access. He has the choice of tons of hot babes, but always seems to be 'into' ones far, far from our city and socia media is a tool there for sure. Unfortunately,  he typically ends up in love with some impossibly hot, rich trustfund chick who speaks 3 languages, with a family personal jet, horses and all that sh!t, then love/lust goes up like a Roman candle and crashes even faster, leaving both pissed and bummed, burning bridges.

But I think the younger and smarter they are, the more they see most social media apps as mega corporate tools, mega setups rigged to make money by collecting and sharing (selling) data on people and they resent that. I think they see the demise of some of them coming way b4 others do.

Aside from PIA social apps and the a holes posting fake news, posting pics of their last fancy meal or purchase,  I resent having popups on my phone asking me if I enjoyed this or that, telling where I am etc. and I just turn location off. I highly resent companies offering incentives only if you tie into fb or other apps. I also resent stores forwarding info from my sales receipts and credit card activites, setting me up for targeted emails.  I don't want my company tracking my whereabouts either--I typically turn 'location' off, although the cops, really anyone smart enough and equipped, can track you with your 'location' turned off. Handy if you're alone in a car wreck down a ravine, but still....


Even if you turn your cellphone OFF, the GPS is still running with you. It's still generally thought that if you remove the battery, this will stop tracking at last point b4 that.

Oh yea, forgot---most phones don't have removable batteries anymore...interesting...


I know, it's 'the way' of the modern world, but like I said, the smarter younger bucks are a bit wary of it too.

Its fecking incredible how much work time, family time is lost to smart phone usage.   Screw em all. We make my son's put their phones away around me. I'm not only the boss, but I'm not going to feed them on my dime so they can fiddle with their phones whill we eat or talk.

Damn, I'm off tangent. Killing time, procrastinating off a four month, 40 hr. graduate 4 credit university course that's being done in 60 days--anything to avoid school work till last minute!!!! Plus, watched the Georgia Bulldogs kill Tennesse 41 to zeroooo. 5 and 0 and Albama's not on the schedule this year!! Back to the frickin  CNS, cortical  neurology book--boring....

[robert angel]

...And now...."Back to your regular programming"