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Title: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on February 19, 2011, 07:18:05 AM
Marily just got her test results back .....she didn't pass  :( :( :(
100,000 nurses took the test & 1/4 of them passed



pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: michaelb on February 19, 2011, 07:24:14 AM
That's got to be a big disappointment for her. Time to tell her that you still love her anyway. Hopefully, you have already done that.

I don't know, but will her school credits be accepted here? Can she take the test in the US when she gets here?
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jedironin on February 19, 2011, 07:37:45 AM
Sorry to hear that! Sounds like a tough test to pass for sure! Well... on to Plan B, right?  ;)

Best of Luck to you both!  :)
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on February 19, 2011, 08:48:12 AM
Yup pig - keep her encouraged. Plenty of jobs here that don't need a license, and she can always take some more classes if needed and take the test after she arrives. It's not the end of the world, just a minor bump on the road to success - and hey, it wouldn't be any fun if there weren't a few bumps along the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATUvyJNvFk0
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: z_k_g on February 19, 2011, 09:54:35 AM
Porky,

Sorry Bud!

Implement your Plan B!

Sh*t happens!

Zulu
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on February 19, 2011, 03:57:08 PM

Sorry to hear the bad news. Is she going to take the next exam?

There is no shame in not passing because that is a tough exam. She and 54,575 others didn’t make it.

29,711 out of 84,287 passed (35%)

The top score was 88.4%

Ray


Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on February 19, 2011, 11:01:01 PM
That's got to be a big disappointment for her. Time to tell her that you still love her anyway. Hopefully, you have already done that.

I don't know, but will her school credits be accepted here? Can she take the test in the US when she gets here?
according to Howard ( he should know he was in the same boat)
if a person with a nursing degree from the PI has never passed the national nurses exam there then there entire transcript will have to be reviewed page by page lesson by lesson lab by lab .........you get the point.
basically if Marily doesn't pass that test by the time she arrives here she has to go back to nursing school PERIOD

there are sooooo many problems in getting a PI nursing transcript reviewed & certified it basically is a huge waste of time & money.

Marily can retake her review class for free because she didn't pass the 1st time
it may be that she just didn't pass 1 section out of the 5 which mite not be too bad. I know she will not like taking even more time off from work to do a 2nd review but at this point given all of the effort she has already put forth i just can't see her not following through with this.It's not really about money at this point IMHO it more about her pride & seeing something through even though it's really hard.


pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Researcher on February 20, 2011, 12:04:21 AM


  Can she retake the test?

  Researcher
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Gato4Astrid on February 20, 2011, 12:27:09 AM
Pig

I am very sorry about it, but I hope she doesn't give up on it especially when she can retake her exam.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on February 20, 2011, 02:37:10 AM

Yes Researcher, she can retake the license exam but I believe it is only offered twice a year (Jun & Dec?).

Pig, you may want to check with your state’s board of nursing to confirm the licensing requirements. I think some states do not require the local Philippine license that is normally required by CGFNS.

But the best course of action for her would probably be to pass the NLE before she comes over, if at all possible.

Ray


Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on February 20, 2011, 10:49:10 PM
Yes Researcher, she can retake the license exam but I believe it is only offered twice a year (Jun & Dec?).
Pig, you may want to check with your state’s board of nursing to confirm the licensing requirements. I think some states do not require the local Philippine license that is normally required by CGFNS.
But the best course of action for her would probably be to pass the NLE before she comes over, if at all possible. Ray
Pig
I am very sorry about it, but I hope she doesn't give up on it especially when she can retake her exam.
   Can she retake the test?   Researcher
hey thanks guys for all throwing things out (ideas) & looking out for me. as Ray posted the test is only held 2 times a year, so she will have to just work a little harder on the section or sections that she didn't pass the 1st time
i know the test is 5 sections & each one is 100 questions.
she told me that 2 of the sections were hard but the other 3 were no real problem for her. so if she only has 2 sections to really focus on & 3 or 4 months to do it i don't see any real problem.
her pride is really hurt & she was in one of the provinces when she got the bad news. she works for some kind of medical mission (something connected to the U.N.) & she travels all over the PI during the week. I'll know more when her & I chat on her next day off 

I have already been to the BON (board of nursing)web site for my state & they have tightened up the requirements recently so she will really need to be a licensed RN there in the PI for her to ever have any real shot at working as an RN here.

I'll keep all of you posted as information becomes available to me  :D

thanks
piglett
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on February 21, 2011, 10:56:15 PM
Well i'll post a little update before i bed down for the night.
Marily didn't want to leave her room yesterday & had skipped a couple of meals too. I told her to get up & go get something to eat or i would worry about her. ;) this seemed to do the trick.

today i received a couple of texts from her & it looks like she is ready to jump back in the ring & put up a fight. she understands now that this is just a setback & it's not the end of the whole dam word.

take care all
catch ya later
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Howard on February 22, 2011, 12:12:05 PM
P~

Sorry to hear this :(  It's a tough test, hopefully the review class will get her on the right track :)

To be clear, the trouble I have had/am having is getting here nursing school to send the transcripts to CGFNS for accredidation.  If she is there, she should have no problem getting her school to send the necesssary documents to them.  I'm in a situation where they can't get anymore money out of me, so I am at the bottom of the pile and never seem to get any higher.

I'm sure she could get her transcripts forwarded while still in the Philippines and check with CGFNS to make sure they have everything they need before she comes.

Make sure she has her degree - the certificate in a frame - and a copy of her student transcripts with her, whether she passes the exam or not.  With that degree and the transcripts she may be eligible to take tests for lesser certifications like LPN, CNA or various assistant/technician positions.  If Gerlie had hers her boss said she could take the CNA test without taking the course.  That alone is a 50% bump in pay

Also... Ray is right.  Not all states require CGFNS certification.  Most do, but not all

Keep us informed

I hope eveything works out well for you :)

Keep the Faith!

H
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on February 22, 2011, 07:43:35 PM
P~Sorry to hear this :(  It's a tough test, hopefully the review class will get her on the right track :)
To be clear, the trouble I have had/am having is getting here nursing school to send the transcripts to CGFNS for accredidation.  If she is there, she should have no problem getting her school to send the necesssary documents to them.  I'm in a situation where they can't get anymore money out of me, so I am at the bottom of the pile and never seem to get any higher.
I'm sure she could get her transcripts forwarded while still in the Philippines and check with CGFNS to make sure they have everything they need before she comes.Make sure she has her degree - the certificate in a frame - and a copy of her student transcripts with her, whether she passes the exam or not.  With that degree and the transcripts she may be eligible to take tests for lesser certifications like LPN, CNA or various assistant/technician positions.  If Gerlie had hers her boss said she could take the CNA test without taking the course.  That alone is a 50% bump in pay
Also... Ray is right.  Not all states require CGFNS certification.  Most do, but not all Keep us informed I hope eveything works out well for you :)
Keep the Faith! H
New Hampshire didn't use to require CGFNS but they do now  :( :( :(
Due to the fact that i have heard nothing from the VSS in Vermont i guess Marily has plenty of time to review for the June exam.
as long as she passes the next time it's all good
but if she doesn't ......well I'll cross that bridge if i come to it
thanks for chiming in Howard


pig
ps i wanted to wait till she passed to go talk to the board of nursing in my state but now i am starting to think that maybe i should pop in & see what they have to say ....it couldn't hurt ;)
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: z_k_g on February 22, 2011, 08:44:01 PM
today i received a couple of texts from her & it looks like she is ready to jump back in the ring & put up a fight. she understands now that this is just a setback & it's not the end of the whole dam word.

Porkums,

Great news!!

(You sure she was not upset about her Piglet with red boots on?  :D)

Zulu
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on February 22, 2011, 09:41:38 PM
Porkums,

Great news!!

(You sure she was not upset about her Piglet with red boots on?  :D)

Zulu
i'm holding off on showing her the red boots till she gets here
i think it mite be a nice surprise for the girl  ;D ;D ;D

pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: z_k_g on February 22, 2011, 09:44:14 PM
i'm holding off on showing her the red boots till she gets here
i think it mite be a nice surprise for the girl  ;D ;D ;D

pig

Porky,

You wife may never leave the log cabin Porkums!   ;D

Zulu
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on February 22, 2011, 09:53:50 PM
Porky,

You wife may never leave the log cabin Porkums!   ;D

Zulu
I could say something rude & crude but due to the fact that we now have a lady posting often i'll keep my pie hole shut

pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on February 23, 2011, 01:27:15 AM
I could say something rude & crude but due to the fact that we now have a lady posting often i'll keep my pie hole shut

pig

Good choice pig!

Does your wife have any study-mates who also need to retake the exam? Sometimes that can be a big help and complement the review courses as well.

I was reading that to pass you need a 70% overall with no score below 60% on any one section. If the scores are otherwise high enough to meet the 70 mark, do they only have to retake the sections that they failed, or do they all have to retake all 5 sections of the test?

Anyway, wish her luck and keep on encouraging her...

Ray

Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: tessbrittain on February 23, 2011, 05:59:52 PM
She can always try again...my other niece took it twice..she made it the second time.

I have another niece that took it same day as your wife did. She passed and very high score 80.20 

Good luck and tell her to study harder next time.

Tess
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on February 24, 2011, 12:20:46 AM
well i just chatted with Marily & got the low down
she got a score of 74% but on section 3 she had a rough time
i had a tough time doing it but i think she will take 3 months off from work & study 6 days a week. I already told her to get a study group together
she said she has already started. she thought that she would just study on her 1 or 2 days a week that she gets off. I asked her why she wanted to work there for more months for less than $200 a month & take the chance that she doesn't pass the test a 2nd time. she said that she didn't want to take money from me. ::) ::) ::)
sometimes i just don't understand her at all


pig

oh PS she has to retake all 5 sections not just the 1 section that she didn't pass. sounds silly to me too but oh well.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on February 24, 2011, 06:04:43 AM

Kumusta Tess?

Congratulations to your niece!

My wife's niece, whom we financed all the way through nursing school, graduated last year and she also passed the NLE this past December on the first try. Not sure what her score was yet.

However, she did take a review course for several months as did Gng. Piglett. Did your niece also take a review course?

Ray

Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on February 24, 2011, 08:55:57 AM
I think the other problem is that Marily has been out of school for so long
hell she's turning 28 next month. I'm sure she would have done better if she  have had the money to take the test rite out of school. however she didn't & she just went ahead & took the 1st low paying nursing job that was offered to her (like many do there).


pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: robert angel on February 24, 2011, 09:22:58 AM
Piglett,

AS you probably know, the failure rate for professional licensure exams in the Philippines is absurdly high. I think the govt. and the schools really need to get on the same page there. So many spend years in college, working very hard, only to hit a wall on the exams.

That said, Marilys scores don't seem that far from a passing mark and assuming the other sections are about the same and that she books up for section three (study groups are a great idea) hopefully everything will work out fine.

It's PITA, I know and of course you want her here ASAP, but hopefully this will prove that 'good things take time'.

Hang in there, man!
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on February 24, 2011, 12:24:36 PM
Piglett,AS you probably know, the failure rate for professional licensure exams in the Philippines is absurdly high. I think the govt. and the schools really need to get on the same page there. So many spend years in college, working very hard, only to hit a wall on the exams.That said, Marilys scores don't seem that far from a passing mark and assuming the other sections are about the same and that she books up for section three (study groups are a great idea) hopefully everything will work out fine.It's PITA, I know and of course you want her here ASAP, but hopefully this will prove that 'good things take time'.Hang in there, man!
i just can't understand the review class people that have a 100% pass rate having soo many nurses not pass the test this time. ::) ::) ::)
don't tell me that they were not telling the truth...say it aint so  :( >:( :(

oh well such is life
so Marily will again take time off from her job so study for that dam test

I think i'll olso go to the BON in my state in the next couple of weeks to see what they have to say for themselves.  :P


pig

I have heard nothing from the VSS so it looks like there is still plenty of time to study & take lots of tests in the PI 
Title: i'll update this old thread
Post by: piglett on March 23, 2011, 07:40:01 PM
i figured i would just update this old thread instead of starting a new one



I'm thinking about hopping on a plane the 1st week of July & just showing up in Manila at my wife's apartment
the air fare is high as hell though, but i am close to saying
"screw it I'm going anyhow"
it will probably only be a 1 1/2 week trip, the 3rd through the 14Th
the cheepest i can get so far is $1666 through China Air
however that flight arrives at about 11:30pm in Manila
& after customs & getting my bags in hand it will be 1:30am +/-
probably not the best time to go bang on my wife's door  8) ;D 8)
so I'll probably have to shell out $1800 to get the arrival time (8am - 10am) that i want.

Uncle Ray you out there???
what are the pluses & minuses if i bring a fish finder for my father in-law
i don't want to open up the flood gates  ::) :o ::)
but i know he needs one so what do i do ???


thanks
pig
Title: Re: i'll update this old thread
Post by: Bob_S on March 23, 2011, 07:52:44 PM
& after customs & getting my bags in hand it will be 1:30am +/-
probably not the best time to go bang on my wife's door  8) ;D 8)
so I'll probably have to shell out $1800 to get the arrival time (8am - 10am) that i want.
What's the cost for a hotel near the airport?  Find one cheap enough and you can arrive at 1:30 and go straight to the hotel maybe for less than the more expensive flight price difference.   ??? ???  Heck, you can send your wife the moolah and she can get the hotel for you ahead of time and meet you there, waiting for you in your room.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on March 23, 2011, 09:40:08 PM
Piggy,
~After you get your online quote, call the airline (s) directly - they do not publish their lower class fares to the public.
~There are a lot of hotels within 30 minutes of the airport - there in even one within the airport.
http://manila-airporthotel.com/
~At this time of night, it shouldn't take you that long to get through customs.
~Also if you are worried about the cost or options, try flying out of a bigger city so that you will have more options. Just take a cheap/convenient "shuttle" from Manchester to a bigger/closer airport/hub & go from there.

And piggy, July 3rd (a Sunday)/the 4th of July weekend - that could be a heavy travel day.
Title: Re: i'll update this old thread
Post by: piglett on March 23, 2011, 10:23:58 PM
What's the cost for a hotel near the airport?  Find one cheap enough and you can arrive at 1:30 and go straight to the hotel maybe for less than the more expensive flight price difference.   ??? ???  Heck, you can send your wife the moolah and she can get the hotel for you ahead of time and meet you there, waiting for you in your room.
last time i checked i could get a deal on a room close to the airport for about 30 bucks. the thing is i don't really want my wife to know i am on my way.
i want to see the look on her face when i say
"well I'm standing here on the sidewalk out front , are you going to let me stand here all day ??"ha ha
i guess i could go for the cheepest flight & after catching a few hours sleep grab a cab & go pick up my unknowing wife  ;D ;D ;D


Piggy,
~After you get your online quote, call the airline (s) directly - they do not publish their lower class fares to the public.
~There are a lot of hotels within 30 minutes of the airport - there in even one within the airport.
http://manila-airporthotel.com/
~At this time of night, it shouldn't take you that long to get through customs.
~Also if you are worried about the cost or options, try flying out of a bigger city so that you will have more options. Just take a cheap/convenient "shuttle" from Manchester to a bigger/closer airport/hub & go from there.

And piggy, July 3rd (a Sunday)/the 4Th of July weekend - that could be a heavy travel day.
i even searched near by airports (Boston) & i am still stuck with the same prices. Marily takes her exam on July 2 & 3 so i figured on showing up on the 4Th or 5Th & i could spend some time with her.
i have only made 1 trip so far & the visa people mite look rather strangely at that
but if i make at least 1 more i hope they will be happy.
the VSS is way overloaded rite now so my noa2 is probably still a month away
i expect the entire visa process to take 6 more months , but i could be wrong

i did go down to the BON (board of nursing) last week &
they want to do a "professional credentials evaluation" on my wife's nursing degree.
they say it will take 5/6 months & they can do it while she is still in the PI.
once she arrives here & gets her S.S.C. she can apply for her nursing license.
so things are looking up  :D :D :D


thanks all
pig 
Title: Re: i'll update this old thread
Post by: Jeff S on March 23, 2011, 10:25:31 PM
...

what are the pluses & minuses if i bring a fish finder for my father in-law
i don't want to open up the flood gates  ::) :o ::)
but i know he needs one so what do i do ???


thanks
pig

You mean from an import duty standpoint or the ramifications of giving him a gift?

Great gift, and very thoughtful. It's business equipment that will help him feed his family and/or make money, not a handout. You're not making him dependent on you, just helping out the family.

I wouldn't worry about it unless he has pulled something in the past like: Gee lost it send another, or I'd rather have the cash, or the fish finder is great, now send a new outboard. But somehow I think he'll just appreciate it.  
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on March 23, 2011, 10:42:17 PM
You mean from an import duty standpoint or the ramifications of giving him a gift?

Great gift, and very thoughtful. It's business equipment that will help him feed his family and/or make money, not a handout. You're not making him dependent on you, just helping out the family.

I wouldn't worry about it unless he has pulled something in the past like: Gee lost it send another, or I'd rather have the cash, or the fish finder is great, now send a new outboard. But somehow I think he'll just appreciate it. 
I don't think the duty guys will care much but if they ask "it's a gift"
i was worried about the gift giving aspect of it.
i have a friend that tells me one in the $200 range will probably get the job done.
he said he will even help me pick out a quality unit that is EZ to use & will hopefully give years of good service. i can then score a 2 amp battery charger & a small battery once i arrive & probably head to the province for a couple of days. I'll limit my time there but i wish to hand deliver the unit directly to him.
no one will know that Marily & I are in route we will just pull up in a trike & walk on in the house. 8) 8)

i may check out the Manila zoo once we get back to the city
what kind of other places should i have a look at boys?
I'll have a few days to kill with nothing on the docket but honeymooning


pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on March 23, 2011, 11:03:28 PM
Fish finders have come way, way down in price over the past decade or two. Nowadays the $79 ones perform like the $500 ones used to 20 years ago. The state of the art is changing fast. Just got back from some training for some multi-beam sidescan sonar, tied to a GPS that has sub-centimeter accuracy. You can find a tennis show laying on the bottom in 2000 feet of water from nearly a mile away and plot it's position within the accuracy of the diameter of a dime. Obviously, it's used for more than finding fish on small boats, but the trickle down technology and software that makes it to commercial units is astounding.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on March 23, 2011, 11:18:19 PM
Fish finders have come way, way down in price over the past decade or two. Nowadays the $79 ones perform like the $500 ones used to 20 years ago. The state of the art is changing fast. Just got back from some training for some multi-beam sidescan sonar, tied to a GPS that has sub-centimeter accuracy. You can find a tennis show laying on the bottom in 2000 feet of water from nearly a mile away and plot it's position within the accuracy of the diameter of a dime. Obviously, it's used for more than finding fish on small boats, but the trickle down technology and software that makes it to commercial units is astounding.
I'm after a unit that is very simple to use
if it will go down 200 feet that is probably all that is needed
the directions will probably not be available in Tagalog so I'll have to read them & have my wife tell her dad what i said ;)
so as long as we can get it installed & up & working inside 3/4 days we are good to go.

thanks
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on March 24, 2011, 07:46:06 AM
PM sent
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on March 24, 2011, 01:26:13 PM
~Avilon Zoo - Fun place to go, the last part of the road getting there is a bit rough so get ready for a bumpy ride.  ;D
~American Cemetery and Memorial
~Mall Of Asia  -Shopping, food  it also have a Movie theater complex & IMAX. There is even an Ice skating rink.  ;D
Also spend some time at the esplanade (behind the mall), there are score of restaurants, "entertainment" and a great view of the sunset.
~Tagaytay City -Taal Volcano & Palace in the Sky.
~Manila Ocean Park - A bit small compare to other Ocean parks but good. I like the area where you put your feet in a pool of small fishes & they come and nibble at your feet. It is fun.  ;D
~Rizal Park - great for a good lazy day.
~Banaue - There are ancient burial caves in the mountainside with ‘hanging coffins’ .
~Coconut Palace - Built of coconut wood & shells and was constructed by Imelda Marcos to accommodate Pope John Paul II. It cost about 100 pesos ($2.50) to enter.

~Fort Santiago - More for the wife if she haven't been there.
~Chinese Cemetery - It is like a village.

The other guys/gals can fill you in on other place to visit or give you more/better feedback on the above.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on March 24, 2011, 03:37:22 PM

A fish finder? Sounds good to me.

Other places to visit:

Subic Freeport Area

Corregidor Is.

Divasoria shopping district

Aristocrat Restaurant (for BBQ chicken)

Ray

Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on March 24, 2011, 09:55:42 PM
hey thanks for the ideas guys
last time i was there was full of stress
between what the church wanted (had to take a bunch of classes & convert ::))
also all the wedding prep
this time i want to head to the province hand dad his fish finder maybe take a boat ride & just eat some red fish & rice
once back in Manila i have no real schedule to keep
i just figured on seeing a few sites & kickin back  :D


pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on March 25, 2011, 05:03:52 AM
You had to take classes too & convert?
It looks like you didn't have anytime to enjoy the sites - enjoy yourself on this next trip.

Me & Ahya talk about going back to visit & these were some of what we decided on:
We will stay in a hotel.
We will not tell anyone we are coming.
We will visit the family about halfway into our visit.
We will spend some time in Pangasinan, Baguio City and the outlying areas.

Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: ignorante on March 25, 2011, 08:28:23 AM
This is all obviously the culmination of a lengthy and elaborate plot to scam you for a fishfinder.  She is probably a ladyboy.

 ;D
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on March 25, 2011, 09:00:57 AM
You had to take classes too & convert?
It looks like you didn't have anytime to enjoy the sites - enjoy yourself on this next trip.

Me & Ahya talk about going back to visit & these were some of what we decided on:
We will stay in a hotel.
We will not tell anyone we are coming.
We will visit the family about halfway into our visit.
We will spend some time in Pangasinan, Baguio City and the outlying areas.


exactly we ran all over hell & back day & night so we could get all of this sh*t done that everyone else wanted. weather it was the church of the dam visa people. i intend to just show up & say"hello here i am" (or something like that :D) & yup it will be the same deal in the province we just show up there on the weekend & then leave about 3 days later, the rest of the time belongs to us. 

This is all obviously the culmination of a lengthy and elaborate plot to scam you for a fishfinder.  She is probably a ladyboy.

 ;D
ha ha ha your funny but, i did a very thorough check & she is all woman ;D :P ;D


pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: ignorante on March 25, 2011, 09:07:42 AM
 :D
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on March 25, 2011, 09:15:54 AM
ha ha ha your funny but, i did a very thorough check & she is all woman ;D :P ;D
pig
Yeah, he tested her by trying to have her wear his trousers but they didn't fit so she pass. ;D
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on March 25, 2011, 10:44:55 AM
Yeah, he tested her by trying to have her wear his trousers but they didn't fit so she pass. ;D
smart @ss ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Dave H on March 27, 2011, 11:05:18 AM
according to Howard ( he should know he was in the same boat)
if a person with a nursing degree from the PI has never passed the national nurses exam there then there entire transcript will have to be reviewed page by page lesson by lesson lab by lab .........you get the point.
basically if Marily doesn't pass that test by the time she arrives here she has to go back to nursing school PERIOD

there are sooooo many problems in getting a PI nursing transcript reviewed & certified it basically is a huge waste of time & money.


pig


Hey pig,

Sorry to hear that! Most don't pass on the first try. I know a lot of people who didn't pass the last test. I think the Professional Regulations Commission (PRC) has made the test  tougher since there are so many nursing graduates now and complaints that many nursing students are now being pushed through diploma mills and don't meet the higher standards of the past. The PRC is trying to save the international reputation of Philippine nurses...which was further tarnished a few years ago by the June 2006 Philippine nursing board exams scandal.

After passing, their "entire transcript will have to be reviewed page by page lesson by lesson lab by lab" ANYWAY. It took about 2 years for my wife's and Steve B's wife's CGFNS International Credentials Evaluation Service (CES) to be completed.

A good thing about living in the Philippines is that I no longer have to demand all Filipino nurses if I am hospitalized!  ;D The nasty Russian male nurse that I had while in a US hospital 4 years ago pushed me over the edge! I made them push my bed to a room on the other side of the hall and spent the rest of my stay under the wonderful care of half a dozen Filipina nurses. Even my physical therapist was a Filipino!  ;D

It is a GREAT idea to go visit her...it will cheer you both up!

Good Luck,

Dave

My former nurse checking visitors(http://www.google.com.ph/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.ewealth.com/rus1.jpg&sa=X&ei=1IOPTc7ZAs6DcO3u0YkK&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNGMo_0Vd5VCA3H-ZAM3hqfpK_ek-g)
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Dave H on March 27, 2011, 11:50:26 AM
This is all obviously the culmination of a lengthy and elaborate plot to scam you for a fishfinder.  She is probably a ladyboy.

 ;D

Hey ignorante,

Interesting theory...if anyone wants to meet a ladyboy, just let me know. I know plenty! I won't tell... some are quite sexy.  ::) I see many of these Fil-Am "couples" out and about early in the morning at Jollibee and McDo.

The best way to tell a ladyboy in the Philippines is if she looks and dresses like a Latina..."she's" probably a ladyboy! If you check and determine that she is really a lady (not a post-op dude)...she is probably a bargirl. Most traditional Filipinas are very conservative in public. If "she" looks too good to be true..."she" probaby is! Anyone can look good with makeup and fake boobs...even a dude!  :o

Dave
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Tanuki on March 27, 2011, 07:48:25 PM
Hey ignorante,

Interesting theory...if anyone wants to meet a ladyboy, just let me know. I know plenty! I won't tell... some are quite sexy.  ::) I see many of these Fil-Am "couples" out and about early in the morning at Jollibee and McDo.

The best way to tell a ladyboy in the Philippines is if she looks and dresses like a Latina..."she's" probably a ladyboy! If you check and determine that she is really a lady (not a post-op dude)...she is probably a bargirl. Most traditional Filipinas are very conservative in public. If "she" looks too good to be true..."she" probaby is! Anyone can look good with makeup and fake boobs...even a dude!  :o

Dave

Those pictured must be post-op.  I don't know how else they could get there legs that close together, if I were to try that the boys would be crowded and it would hurt really really bad. That real bad pain in you can feel on the pit of your stomach.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Dave H on March 29, 2011, 03:59:23 AM
Those pictured must be post-op.  I don't know how else they could get there legs that close together, if I were to try that the boys would be crowded and it would hurt really really bad. That real bad pain in you can feel on the pit of your stomach.

Hey Tanuki,

I remember when they used to be "men"...I'm not sure if they have been totally clipped yet?

Dave
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on March 31, 2011, 06:40:50 PM

Hey piggy,

Are you still thinking of just showing up at your wife’s place unannounced? You’re crazy man!

But I love it! I actually did the same thing with my first wife way back before we were married. I took 45 days vacation and caught a military hop to the PI, never telling her anything.

I arrived in town at about 9 pm and I smelled like a piglett after around 48 hrs of travel. I got a room at a hotel a block away and cleaned up. Then I just walked over and banged on the door. She was sleeping and  was completely surprised but happy as a pig in shyt. It was really hot so we spent the night in the air-conditioned hotel room I already had for the night.

Keep in mind that there are certain dangers involved in these tricky schemes. (1) She could be unexpectedly out of town or back in the province for some reason. (2) Her “cousin” that she never mentioned could be staying over night when you get there. (3) She could mistake you for a local pervert and cut your head off with her bolo, etc., etc…

If you just show up outside and call her on her cell, make sure you keep an eye on the back door and windows for that “cousin” in case he tries to make a run for it…   :D

Ray


Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on March 31, 2011, 07:01:15 PM
(3) She could mistake you for a local pervert and cut your head off with her bolo, etc., etc…
Cebuano New Hampshire Lechón.  ;D
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on April 01, 2011, 09:52:47 PM
Hey piggy,

Are you still thinking of just showing up at your wife’s place unannounced? You’re crazy man!

But I love it! I actually did the same thing with my first wife way back before we were married. I took 45 days vacation and caught a military hop to the PI, never telling her anything.

I arrived in town at about 9 pm and I smelled like a piglett after around 48 hrs of travel. I got a room at a hotel a block away and cleaned up. Then I just walked over and banged on the door. She was sleeping and  was completely surprised but happy as a pig in shyt. It was really hot so we spent the night in the air-conditioned hotel room I already had for the night.

Keep in mind that there are certain dangers involved in these tricky schemes. (1) She could be unexpectedly out of town or back in the province for some reason. (2) Her “cousin” that she never mentioned could be staying over night when you get there. (3) She could mistake you for a local pervert and cut your head off with her bolo, etc., etc…

If you just show up outside and call her on her cell, make sure you keep an eye on the back door and windows for that “cousin” in case he tries to make a run for it…   :D

Ray

Cebuano New Hampshire Lechón.  ;D
YUP boys that's my plan & i think it's a good one
a simple plan is always good & this one is very simple
yes there could be problems , but i just don't see it going down like that.
she will not be out of town because she retakes her test on July 2nd & 3rd
i figure she will be resting up after such a hard test.
also i deposit her "pay" in on the 15th & 30th however i'll only put a little in & tell her "i'll have to add more in a few days" well i can make good use of those day to get my @ss on a plane & get to Manila. I'm still looking at leaving the east coast US on July 3rd "which is the 4th already there due to the international date line" so i'll be arriving on the 5th there if all goes well.


time 4 bed
piggy ;)
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on April 02, 2011, 07:00:41 AM

Well piggy, we'll be waiting for the report on that trip. Should be fun, but I hope she doesn't have a heart attack...
 
Of course you realize that by posting your plan here, there is a very good chance that she already heard about it through the bamboo telegraph   :D

Ray

Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Dave H on April 02, 2011, 09:52:44 AM
Hey piggy,

Now your talking! I LOVE IT! Man this is going to be interesting! You are going to have some story to tell! I hope it stays a secret until she sees you at her door. Good luck and have fun!!!

Dave
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on April 02, 2011, 10:51:39 PM
Well piggy, we'll be waiting for the report on that trip. Should be fun, but I hope she doesn't have a heart attack...
 Of course you realize that by posting your plan here, there is a very good chance that she already heard about it through the bamboo telegraph   :D Ray
Hey piggy,Now your talking! I LOVE IT! Man this is going to be interesting! You are going to have some story to tell! I hope it stays a secret until she sees you at her door. Good luck and have fun!!!Dave
she doesn't have a computer so her online time is very small. I don't think she has ever been on this site & she has never spoke of it either , so i would say the odds are fairly good that she will not find out from here. I'll have to make sure i don't post it on visa-journey, she does go on there from time 2 time. i don't want to let the cat out of the bag.


pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on April 02, 2011, 11:03:56 PM


i would say the odds are fairly good that she will not find out from here.


Well pig, I guess you don't know the bamboo telegraph... LOL!

Ray

Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: robert angel on April 02, 2011, 11:36:26 PM
Re:

>>Well pig, I guess you don't know the bamboo telegraph... LOL!<<

Ain't that the truth! I've seen guys try and run 'secret action plays' between women in Mindanao and Manila (The two islands farthest apart in a nation of 7000+ islands) only to be much surprised to find out that there wasn't much at all that ended up being 'secret' after all. The internet can be scarily amazing and sometimes it can even be a 'friend of a friend' who happened to be on-line, got wind of what was going on and verbally relayed the 'secret'.

Then again, just like in the old fashioned kid's game of 'telephone', sometimes the message this case the 'information' can get all misconstrued. Hopefully you'll be fine--it will be a great surprise in the true sense. Any which way, I'm sure she'll be estactic to see ya, Piglett and you'll both have a great time.

PS--again--if you buy a fish finder for your in law--I suggest you go with a Garmin brand one--for the money and for salt water, they're pretty good--better than Hummingbird for salt and brackish water and cheaper. I like Garmin products--Lowrance is good too, but you typically pay more.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on April 04, 2011, 06:31:06 PM
Re:

>>Well pig, I guess you don't know the bamboo telegraph... LOL!<<


PS--again--if you buy a fish finder for your in law--I suggest you go with a Garmin brand one--for the money and for salt water, they're pretty good--better than Hummingbird for salt and brackish water and cheaper. I like Garmin products--Lowrance is good too, but you typically pay more.
my inlaws have a bamboo floor in the front 1/2 of their house i sure hope it doesn't give me away  ;D ;D ;D

as far as the fishfinder goes this is what has been recamended to me so far
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390302341894
it looks EZ for my non english reading farther inlaw to figure out & it's priced rite

or my second choice is
http://cgi.ebay.com/Portable-Sonar-Fish-Water-Depth-Finder-Fishifinder-100M-/290548816324?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a60f19c4#ht_1833wt_905

i'm not sure the 2nd one will get the job done & hold up in the salt water for long....or maybe it's just as good. hard sayin not knowin ;)


thanks
pig
Title: interesting
Post by: piglett on May 11, 2011, 10:32:22 PM
i met an interesting older lady today while i was out & about.
one of the local bodyshops saves all of their doors, bumpers, radiators, ect for me. i pick them up every week or two which saves them from having to haul them off to the transfer station.
 while there the owner called me into the office & introduced me to a lady who was probably around 55 years of age. she asked me about my wife & how the visa process was going. after answering her she told me that her husband works for some construction company & they will be doing a bunch of work to update some of the embassy buildings in Manila. she said the she had already lived in manila once before & while there she took a job with the embassy. she said that should i have any problems with my wife's visa application that i should contact her & she would see what she could do.
 
I am not sure what duties she preformed while working at the embassy in Manila & I'm not sure who she knows but i guess it's good to have someone who mite be able to straighten out a snag if one happens to occur
 
 
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 12, 2011, 09:23:03 AM
Quote
I am not sure what duties she preformed while working at the embassy in Manila & I'm not sure who she knows but i guess it's good to have someone who mite be able to straighten out a snag if one happens to occur
pig
It's good to have someone to assist you should an issue arise but to avoid any issues you should do your part to prevent that from happening - control what you can. Make a checklist and go over it, make sure that you have all the required paperwork/documents, go over them & check for mistakes, etc,. Make sure that everything is in order..... 110%.

I know your situation and you are not in a "hurry" and this is just a reminder. We are approaching summer and NVC / Embassy workers will be taking their vacation so there may be less agents processing application - that could create a backlog/slowdown.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: jm21-2 on May 16, 2011, 10:36:20 AM
Week 2, things are going fine between us, but had a few things go wrong. Washing machine had some troubles right before she arrived, I fixed it pretty easily, but I missed some water when cleaning up (under the drying machine) and it stunk up the laundry room for several days (really bad). Smell seems to have mostly gone away now. Then last Thursday my car broke down due to a coolant problem...we were struggling with it for a while and thinking we'd have to buy a new car for me (which I hadn't really planned on) but seems to be going OK now. Or might just need something cheap like a new radiator cap. fingers crossed. Don't really have enough money for two cars.



Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: fathertime on May 16, 2011, 10:41:00 AM
. Or might just need something cheap like a new radiator cap. fingers crossed. Don't really have enough money for two cars.
Must keep coolant under pressure to keep it from boiling over...the radiator cap is special and creates that pressure if it is sealing properly.  good luck

Fathertime!
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on May 16, 2011, 02:54:19 PM
 
Sounds like a blown head gasket...
 
 
Hey, just kidding!  :P
 
Is she done cleaning yet? I think William is still at it... (?)
 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 16, 2011, 03:23:28 PM
I gave up cleaning & let the wife take over.  :D
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: robert angel on May 16, 2011, 05:06:04 PM
Jm,
 
Glad to hear that things are going well. But when it comes to things in need of repair, when it rains, it pours! Hopefully it's just the radiator cap--they are really vital to maintaining system/coolant pressure and don't forget to keep some liquid (up to the line) in the overflow container. I realized that in our 1997 Toyota Camry, not only is there NO copper in the radiator, but most of the radiator's structure is made of PLASTIC.  A seam on the top was showing and when I squeezed the radiator hose, I could see coolent ooze out of the plastic seam across the front top. If it ruptured could've been expensive.

 
So we just replaced the radiator (don't let em stick you for a $69.95 'radiator flush' if they do change out the radiator)--they're pretty much already doing that by replacing all the fluid, our mechanic 'go to' guy told us. It needed and oil change and air filter (one of those air filters from hell to replace) and they pulled out the after market radio to replace a fuse that blew when when my son went to jump start it and reversed the positive and negative jumper connections ::) --lucky we didn't blow the car's central computer---that's expensive.. Anyway--we were actually surprised the bill for all that was 'only' $338.

 
Most of the previous generation washers and dryers are surprisingly easy to fix, although some parts are pricey. Kudos for doing it yourself.

 
I don't know how much of an 'Asian thing' it is, but my wife insists a lot that our house smells bad--I have a pretty good nose and  don't notice anything--but seems she and I smell different things differently. She can fried dried fish and it's not that big a deal, but then notice some 'undescribable odor'. Any way, we have candles, oil burners and such we sometimes use, despite the house being pretty clean.
 

It's great owning a house, but kind of scary too, sometimes. I replaced the central heat and air unit a couple years back and now a couple shingles are coming off the roof--you really need to, when possible, put some 'rainy day' money away. Easier said then done.
 

But look at it this way--in my first marriage, we were happiest before we both started making decent money. We still had some disagreements about money matters, but once we both made enough where we could live w/o each other, matters got worse. Now my wife doesn't make too much and I pick up the slack and money is very rarely an issue.
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: michaelb on May 17, 2011, 09:12:43 AM
Kind of hard to diagnose a car that you're not looking at, but heater hoses fail much more often than radiator caps, particularly if they've got a few years on them. They are pretty easy to change out, that is, if the clamps are in an assessable location. Over heated antifreeze has a peculiar smell, very sweet, really hard hard to miss. I put a radiator in my 99 Honda a couple of years ago, cost $99.99 plus sales tax at a parts house. Took all of 15 minutes to install. Disclaimers: 1) In my younger days I actually worked as a mechanic, so I know what I'm doing (famous last words??) 2) This Honda was the easiest radiator to install I've ever seen. Only two hoses (manual transmission, so no transmission fluid cooling lines to mess with) and literally only one bolt (radiator fits down into a little sleeve about 3 inches deep at the bottom that keeps it in place, one bolt on a brace that holds the top of it in place).

Of course if you're not the mechanical type and/or don't have the tools and/or don't feel confident doing it then you'll have to hire it out. My (tongue in cheek) advice is to carry two gallon milk jugs full of water with you and keep a close eye on the gauge :)     
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 17, 2011, 09:35:42 AM
Then last Thursday my car broke down due to a coolant problem...we were struggling with it for a while and thinking we'd have to buy a new car for me (which I hadn't really planned on) but seems to be going OK now. Or might just need something cheap like a new radiator cap. fingers crossed. Don't really have enough money for two cars.
I'm not sure what kind of coolant problem you had exactly
If either the fan motor which cools the radiator or the thermatic switch which tells the fan motor to turn on took a dump you could have an overheating problem. the other thing that comes to mind is the water pump. if the water pump is leaking then you will be adding coolant or at least water to the cooling system.
did you ever find out exactly what the problem was ??
 
 
 
pig 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: michaelb on May 17, 2011, 09:58:53 AM
JM, just remembered something you ought to know if you try to do the work yourself. Cats like to drink antifreeze. It will kill them. If you have any pets (or if you care about your neighbors' pets), keep them away and clean your work area very well when finished.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: robert angel on May 17, 2011, 06:30:44 PM
Yea--be safe with antifreeze--most states still don't have laws that would make it taste bitter and would add maybe a few cents to the cost, saving lives. I'm not into new laws, but this one makes sense--just as being real careful when opening a hot, or even warm radiator makes sense too. Always have a thick towel or rags, if there's even a chance of it being hot in there. Otherwise, the  potential gusher can blind and scar you badly.

 
(http://news.vin.com/apputil/image/handler.ashx?imgid=1182506&w=250)
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A federal bill designed to force antifreeze makers to add a bittering agent to their products is once again before the U.S. Congress, despite the fact lawmakers previously failed to consider two nearly identical measures.   

If enacted, H.R. 615 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-615), sponsored by Rep. Gary Ackerman, would amend the Federal Hazardous Substances Act to nationally require what already is mandatory in ten states and has been considered in a handful of others: Engine coolant must contain denatonium benzoate, the most bitter compound known, to render the sweet but toxic liquid unpalatable.

The goal of H.R. 615, or the Antifreeze Bittering Act of 2009, is to deter children and animals from drinking antifreeze. Ingesting just a tablespoon of ethylene glycol, the poisonous component in automotive antifreeze, can be lethal to a 10-pound cat. The Humane Society of the United States estimates that about 10,000 dogs and cats die from complications related to ethylene glycol toxicity each year, but other agencies guess that number to be much higher. Thousands of people are accidentally poisoned annually, states the American Association of Poison Control Centers. There also are reports of ethylene glycol-based antifreeze being used as a murder weapon http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=15224 (http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=15224)
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Dave H on May 25, 2011, 12:32:32 AM
JM, just remembered something you ought to know if you try to do the work yourself. Cats like to drink antifreeze. It will kill them.

Hey Michael,
 
Thanks for the tip!   ::)   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
Dave
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 25, 2011, 12:43:18 PM
well it looks like I'll be buying my ticket for the up coming trip within a week. has anyone ever done an "airport change"
one of the flights had one in NY but how in the hell do i get from one place to the next??? do they provide a bus? do i have to pay for the bus? one ticket was $1335 plus taxes but........... there was a 10 hour layover on the way back , so i think I'll pass on that one.
 
 
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 25, 2011, 01:55:52 PM
Piglett, elaborate a bit on "airport change" & which airline are you plan on flying?

Normally you would ask the airline to tag your luggage all the way to the final destination so you wouldn't have to pick it up & re-check but with an airport change you would have to do it yourself.

If you are "transferring" from LGA (or EWR) to JFK, I would be wary. You would have to give yourself a lot of time - collecting your check bags, trip to JFK (about 1/2 hour on a good day from LGA, longer for EWR), rechecking and such. And since we do not know what airline (s) not sure if they will provide airport transfer, normally the answer would be no and you would have to provide your own transportation.  Can't you fly directly into JFK? that would be much easier & terminal transfer is a breeze.

Give us a little more info & airlines.


Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Capstone on May 25, 2011, 02:28:07 PM
I would heed KFC's warning about avoiding airport changes in NYC. I once did a LGA-JFK airport change and it was a big pain in the a$$ and is something that I will not do again. There are several companies that run mini bus shuttles between the 3 NYC airports (which is not free) but the hassle is just not worth the little money that you might save on airfare. Go for convenience over price in this case.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 25, 2011, 02:45:20 PM
Yep, I too in this case would go for the convenience over price.

Personally, LGA is an airport that I try to avoid - the way people try to avoid LAX, I try to avoid LGA,  I prefer to go all the way to EWR.....and LGA is the closest airport to me, about 1/2 hour away. 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 25, 2011, 10:52:15 PM
http://www.cheapoair.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1685&sid=1&oa=MHT&da=MNL&adt=1&chd=0&snr=0&infl=0&infs=0&dd=07-03-2011&rd=07-14-2011&tt=ROUNDTRIP (http://www.cheapoair.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1685&sid=1&oa=MHT&da=MNL&adt=1&chd=0&snr=0&infl=0&infs=0&dd=07-03-2011&rd=07-14-2011&tt=ROUNDTRIP)
 
well here is one example
there is an airport change IN JAPAN !!!!!!!
i think I'll pass on that whole mess thank U :o
 
i checked the same site a couple of days ago & they had an airport change in NYC like i already said, hey if i was a world traveler i mite give it a go but i just want to go see my sweetie with the least amount on BS
 
 
piglett 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 26, 2011, 05:18:39 AM
The session have timed out but I think that I can make out Manchester to Manila & 7/3 - 7/14 from the link......is that correct? I am in transit now & will check later when I get to work.

Not sure what you mean by airport change in Japan (cannot open link) but if it is transiting then I wouldn't worry about transiting in any of the 4 airport in Asia for you (HK, Taiwan, S Korea & Japan)  - transiting in these airport are great (a breeze), HKIA is one of the easier airport to transit in and jm (Taiwan) & Jeff S (Japan) can tell you how easy & painless these airports are.

Also in addition  to the search engines, check the airlines sites to see what they offer - price & better connections.

I would go for convenience & If I was in your shoe I would do NH to another domestic airport then a changeover in Asia then Manila (or directly to Manila if the domestic airport is on the west coast).

Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on May 26, 2011, 07:54:10 AM
I think he means having to take ground transportation from one airport to another - like La Guardia to Kennedy - probably Narita to Haneda in Tokyo. I've had to do it in Shanghai (there are 4 Shanghai airports) and it was a hassle. Only recently have international flights re-started from Haneda. It's the older airport closer to downtown. I used to fly into there before they built the new airport way up north. Since the late 70s, when Narita opened, Haneda had been only used for domestic flights, but now they're expanding it to other east Asian commutes. That said, Narita to Haneda is probably one of the easier airport changes. The Japanese have public transportation figured out better than anyone - and everyone in the travel industry speaks English. It's extremely easy to get from Narita downtown, though you do need to go through baggage, customs, immigration, and security an extra time.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Capstone on May 26, 2011, 08:07:40 AM
I would also avoid transferring between the Narita & Haneda airports in Tokyo if you can. I also had to do that one time and it took about 2 hours - I had read that it would take about 90 minutes but it ended up being closer to 2 hours in the end because of the traffic. Those 2 airports are not anywhere near each other - unfortunately for me, the time that I did it I had no other choice as that was the only flight option available at the time. I transferred between the 2 airports via the airport limousine bus rather than taking the train because taking the train would require that I change trains/lines and I did not want to go through the hassle with luggage.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Capstone on May 26, 2011, 08:16:06 AM
I've had to do it in Shanghai (there are 4 Shanghai airports) and it was a hassle.


Hey Jeff if you ever have to transfer between Pudong and Hongqiao airports in Shanghai again just take a taxi instead of the shuttle bus. The first time that I did the transfer I used the shuttle bus which wasn't too bad but still somewhat of a hassle, so on the return leg of my trip I took a cab which turned out to be so much better. You can find a cab and be off right away and the trip is much faster than the shuttle bus. I used a cab both times on a subsequent trip and did not have any problems that time either. Since cabs are cheap in China it is a good option - it cost right around 170RMB each time that I did it which is about $25.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on May 26, 2011, 08:28:39 AM
Thanks for the tip. I'll remember that. I've never had to deal with taxis in China - always had a driver, so don't know the drill. They're really pricey in Japan.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 26, 2011, 08:40:26 AM
I just did a search with the link/info piglett provided and saw what he meant.
If I didn't have a lot of luggage & have the extra time I would do the airport change. With a 10 hours & 50 minutes connecting flight time, that would give enough time to explore some parts of Tokyo - but that is just me.   8)

If I am not mistake, I think that piglett was talking about this itinerary.:

Out Bound Flight:
American Airlines     
Boston Logan (BOS)   10:40am -03Jul, Sun Nonstop
Chicago OHare (ORD)  12:20pm -03Jul, Sun Coach  2hr 40min
   
American Airlines     
Chicago OHare (ORD)      01:25pm -03Jul, Sun Nonstop
Tokyo Narita (NRT)      04:15pm -04Jul, Mon Coach  12hr 50min
   
Japan Airlines     
Tokyo Narita (NRT) 06:35pm -04Jul, Mon Nonstop
Manila (MNL) 10:10pm -04Jul, Mon Coach 4hr 35min

Flight Duration : 20hr 05min     Layover Time : 3hr 25min     Total Trip Time: 23hr 30min     
 
Return Flight:
Japan Airlines 
Manila (MNL)  02:25pm -14Jul, Thu Nonstop
Tokyo Narita (NRT) 07:50pm -14Jul, Thu Coach 4hr 25min

Please note, you have an airport change - Connecting flight wait time 10 hours 50 minutes
   
American Airlines
Tokyo Haneda (HND) 06:40am -15Jul, Fri Nonstop
New York Kennedy (JFK) 06:30am -15Jul, Fri Coach 12hr 50min
   
American Airlines 
New York Kennedy (JFK) 08:50am -15Jul, Fri Nonstop
Boston Logan (BOS) 09:55am -15Jul, Fri     Coach 1hr 5min

Flight Duration : 18hr 20min     Layover Time : 13hr 10min     Total Trip Time: 31hr 30min
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 26, 2011, 09:17:06 AM
I think he means having to take ground transportation from one airport to another - like La Guardia to Kennedy - probably Narita to Haneda in Tokyo.
BINGO that's exactly what I'm talking about. taking a silly bus or cab from 1 airport to another is not my idea of a good time (probably asking for trouble IMHO) But KFC is correct i would have 10 hours to do it.
i like saving $400 (over the other flights) but I'm not sure I'll bite
the other thing is i start out from the wrong airport. i can have my mom who's 66 drop me off in Manchester NH with no problem, she lives less than an hour away & has done so in the past. However if i need to get to Boston it's a whole different deal. they have added a tunnel & moved the roads around in the last few years & mom is not so keen on trying out the new way to the airport. she knew the old way but being older now i think asking for a ride to boston is pushing it. the last time i rode with her she just about got us killed  ???  we got up to an exit & she wasn't sure it it was the correct one for us SO SHE STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAM HIGHWAY my mom used to be a kick @ss driver, hell she used to drive a taxi at one point many years ago but i guess old age is catching up with the old girl 
 
 
" If I am not mistake, I think that piglett was talking about this itinerary."
 yes correct KFC that's the one

 
 
thanks guys
pig
 
PS I think I'll wait till Monday after midnight & see what other flights the airlines have posted. & i can go from there.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on May 26, 2011, 12:20:28 PM
Well the nice thing about Haneda is that it's almost right downtown with easy train and subway access - so you can get your crap there, check in and take in Tokyo easily. It's only on your return trip, too.


Here you go:


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Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 26, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
Well the nice thing about Haneda is that it's almost right downtown with easy train and subway access - so you can get your crap there, check in and take in Tokyo easily. It's only on your return trip, too.


Here you go:


(http://lifesg.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/tokyo-subway-map.gif)
wow that looks like a maze.........
how long is the taxi ride from 1 airport to another? 2 hours i would arrive at 4:15pm & need to depart from Narita at 6:35pm
I don't think it can be done at rush hour but i could be off the mark
also is it worth risking missing my flight to Manila???
 
thanks
pig
 
:EDIT ok Jeff i'm all screwed up there is NO airport change on the flight going to the PI just on the return trip .....he he i didn't notice that one thanks
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on May 26, 2011, 12:44:01 PM
Yeah. There's a bus service that can probably do it in 90 minutes - and remember, it's only on your trip home not your trip there.


I know it looks like a maze, but you can just head from Haneda to one place on that day and return - Tokyo station if you want to see the imperial palace, Ueno if you like museums, or Ginza if you want to experience downtown shops and restaurants.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 26, 2011, 12:57:26 PM
Yeah. There's a bus service that can probably do it in 90 minutes - and remember, it's only on your trip home not your trip there.


I know it looks like a maze, but you can just head from Haneda to one place on that day and return - Tokyo station if you want to see the imperial palace, Ueno if you like museums, or Ginza if you want to experience downtown shops and restaurants.
maybe there will be another cheep Kano or 2 & we can split the cab fare??? there is always safety in #'S you know
however I'm not so sure what will be open at 7:50 pm when i arrive in town. I wonder if i will have to carry my bags or maybe they transfer them for me ??? ?
 
 
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 26, 2011, 01:20:46 PM
Piggy, this is Tokyo, not New Hampshire where everything closes @7pm.  ;D Tokyo do have a night life.

I am not sure if they will transfer your luggage for you between airports but you can always leave it at baggage storage or the coin-operated lockers.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 26, 2011, 01:35:38 PM
Piggy, this is Tokyo, not New Hampshire where everything closes @7pm.  ;D Tokyo do have a night life.
really ......maybe i don't have help to round up the cows either  ;D ;D ;D he he he

 
 

I am not sure if they will transfer your luggage for you between airports but you can always leave it at baggage storage or the coin-operated lockers.
the locker works for me, i would perfer that the airlines do the transfer for me but I'll take it as it comes.
 
 
thanks
pig
 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Capstone on May 26, 2011, 01:54:26 PM
wow that looks like a maze.........
how long is the taxi ride from 1 airport to another? 2 hours i would arrive at 4:15pm & need to depart from Narita at 6:35pm
I don't think it can be done at rush hour but i could be off the mark
also is it worth risking missing my flight to Manila???


LOL! Don't worry pig, the Tokyo subway system is really easy to navigate but doing so with luggage could be a real PIA. Forget about taking a taxi between airports - the very high cost of doing so would negate the savings of your air ticket. The airport shuttle bus advertises that it takes about 90 minutes to get from one airport to the other but like I already said it took me about 2 hours because of the traffic.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on May 26, 2011, 05:35:18 PM
maybe there will be another cheep Kano or 2 & we can split the cab fare??? there is always safety in #'S you know
however I'm not so sure what will be open at 7:50 pm when i arrive in town. I wonder if i will have to carry my bags or maybe they transfer them for me ??? ?
 
 
pig


I don't care who you are - that there is funny.


Yeah I see it's overnight. Probably want to grab a hotel. Plenty of those but that too would probably kill any savings too.

Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 26, 2011, 10:15:35 PM

I don't care who you are - that there is funny.


Yeah I see it's overnight. Probably want to grab a hotel. Plenty of those but that too would probably kill any savings too.
i'll have to pass on the hotel boys
i'll have plenty of time to sleep once i am on the plane heading to New York, 12 hours & 50 min. should be enough to do it ;)
 
 
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 27, 2011, 07:56:26 AM
Piggy, this would throw a little wrench on your return trip - only if your were planning on returning home "lite" with luggage.

On your return trip you should bring some of the things that your wife will need when she do come to NH, especially things that are hard to come by in your area (tabo, nipa broom, non-perishable items, etc,) and some of her personal items  - to help lessen her load / so she can have more room in her luggage for her things when she come.

Also get her true size in clothing (even if you have to measure)  ;D
That would help if you have to buy stuff for her before she comes - store usually have their "real" clearance (clearing out) sale in August/September to make room for the winter items. And if you do buy clothing items - save all the receipts.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on May 27, 2011, 03:36:19 PM
On your return trip you should bring some of the things that your wife will need when she do come to NH, especially things that are hard to come by in your area (tabo, nipa broom, non-perishable items, etc,) and some of her personal items  - to help lessen her load / so she can have more room in her luggage for her things when she come.

Also get her true size in clothing (even if you have to measure) 
That would help if you have to buy stuff for her before she comes...

Good idea kfc on bringing back some of her favorite stuff. But I would forget about the nipa broom because (a) it won't fit in a suitcase and (b) it's not a necessity. It's about time for Filipinas to toss the nipa brooms and get a Swiffer Duster. I'm sure they will survive without the walis, at least until he finds one here in the States.   :D
 
Things to consider bringing back with you would include her favorite shampoos, conditioners, soaps, feminie hygeine products  :o , and a of course her tabo!  ;D
 
Piggy, you paid dearly for that 2x50lb baggage allowance, so I would use it to the max and get your money's worth.
 
HOWEVER, from my personal experience, forget about buying her any clothing items before she gets here. Let her pick out her own clothes!! (a word to the wise...  ;)  )
 
 
Ray
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: michaelb on May 27, 2011, 03:57:28 PM

Let her pick out her own clothes!! (a word to the wise...  ;)  )
 
 
Ray

A very wise word to the wise, no matter where she is from.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: robert angel on May 27, 2011, 03:58:29 PM
Re:
>>Things to consider bringing back with you would include her favorite shampoos, conditioners, soaps, feminine hygiene products<<

Yea--that's good advice --even the stuff they sell here with the same name brand labels, look and smell isn't the same as over there and there are brands there you just can't find here at all. Watch your travel weight--pack as light as you can going (you're gonna leave the chocolate there, aren't you?--don't forget Victoria's Secret big annual June sale is coming up either)  and pack as heavy as you can (w/o penalty) going back.

Piglett: bring both pairs of your underwear and 2 of your 3 pairs of shorts!  :D The wife will wash them every other day! When you're buying her 'stuff' over there, just remember how much more it would be costing when inevitably you'd otherwise have to buy it here!

While we're at it---instead of $140 for a dental filling--you can get one filled in there for $3 or $4. Have her teeth checked.

Kfc is right about the clothing that you can buy there. Especially if she's petite, but also because the way the clothing is 'cut' and fits, it's harder to find clothes that fit right over here for many Filipinas.
It's also hard, but not impossible, to measure her for Asian, versus USA standard sizing, but there's not much sizing uniformity any more between different brands of American clothes, so if you go that route, definitely save the receipts.

That way, Piglett, when winter's over, you can return the coat!  ;D Squeeeek!!!
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on May 27, 2011, 04:42:30 PM
Sure he should risk BOTH pairs on one trip?
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 27, 2011, 05:29:15 PM
Sure he should risk BOTH pairs on one trip?
ha ha ha you guys are very funny  ;)
my wife already has some of my clothes due to the fact that she had washed them & they were not yet dry so i told her to just hang onto them till i return. so i'll be packing very lite on the trip there.
 
i decided to jump on the crazy Japan airport switch flight due to the fact that i save about $400 which i can now use to pay for the wifes nursing credential review.
 
here is my cost breakdown so the lurkers who may some day get in gear & head to the PI will have some kind of numbers to work with.
 
my airline ticket came to $1335.00
taxes came to $123.95
trip insurance $55
total $1514.35
 
 
 
 
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 27, 2011, 05:38:16 PM

Good idea kfc on bringing back some of her favorite stuff. But I would forget about the nipa broom because (a) it won't fit in a suitcase and (b) it's not a necessity. It's about time for Filipinas to toss the nipa brooms and get a Swiffer Duster. I'm sure they will survive without the walis, at least until he finds one here in the States.   :D
 
Things to consider bringing back with you would include her favorite shampoos, conditioners, soaps, feminie hygeine products  :o , and a of course her tabo!  ;D
 
Piggy, you paid dearly for that 2x50lb baggage allowance, so I would use it to the max and get your money's worth.
 
HOWEVER, from my personal experience, forget about buying her any clothing items before she gets here. Let her pick out her own clothes!! (a word to the wise...  ;)  )
 
 
Ray
while i am there her & i will be shopping for pants for her (she only owns 2 pair)i'll bring most of what we buy back with me along with most of her flip flop collection (she has about 30 pair :o )
 
ok what's up with the 50lb thing on bags???
last time they allowed me three 65lb bags (Delta)
 
 
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 27, 2011, 07:39:16 PM
-don't forget Victoria's Secret big annual June sale is coming up either)  and pack as heavy as you can (w/o penalty) going back.
The SAS is currently going on online & will start in the store on June 14th.  They also have a sale on beauty products, the Secret Garden are 6 for $20 (online) so I bought a few and use 2 coupons that I had, plus I got a free gifts. We are saving the beauty products to send as gifts for x-mas.
For the June SAS June I am (we are) waiting until the very end to get clothing as gifts - they will be cheaper.

Things to consider bringing back with you would include her favorite shampoos, conditioners, soaps, feminie hygeine products  :o , and a of course her tabo!  ;D   
Especially those!!!!!!

As Robert mentioned, they may have the same brand name but they are not the same.
We went to Jersey City (Filipino community) last weekend and she found some of her favorite shampoo/conditioner (Palmolive & Vaseline) so we boght a few bottles. The one item that I haven't found in the Tri-state area yet is Clear Shampoo. I found it on Amazon but not in any physical store.

 Personally I had no problem with the clothing (tops) that I bought for my wife before she came. I already knew her size from the stuff I gave her and I stuck with the same brands, bottoms I didn't mess with.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 27, 2011, 07:55:22 PM
my airline ticket came to $1335.00
taxes came to $123.95
trip insurance $55
total $1514.35
That would be for the summer season - the winter (January/February) would be less.

while i am there her & i will be shopping for pants for her (she only owns 2 pair)i'll bring most of what we buy back with me along with most of her flip flop collection (she has about 30 pair :o )
Remind her that she cannot wear them in winter.  ;D
 
ok what's up with the 50lb thing on bags???
last time they allowed me three 65lb bags (Delta)
There are airlines that charge you extra for check luggage and some i=even charge you for carry-on.  ::)
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on May 28, 2011, 03:13:27 AM
ok what's up with the 50lb thing on bags???
last time they allowed me three 65lb bags (Delta)
 

Did you fly business or first class?
 
I believe their checked baggage allowance for standard economy class is 2 bags at 50lb each.
 
Call them and confirm the allowance before you start packing...
 
Ray
 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 28, 2011, 08:12:09 AM

Did you fly business or first class?
 
I believe their checked baggage allowance for standard economy class is 2 bags at 50lb each.
 
Call them and confirm the allowance before you start packing...
 
Ray
actually i 1st asked if they could somehow strap me to one of the wings so that i could receive a deeply discounted fare. they declined so i was forced to buy one economy ticket  ;D :o ;D
 
 
pig 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Capstone on May 28, 2011, 08:13:08 AM
ok what's up with the 50lb thing on bags???
last time they allowed me three 65lb bags (Delta)

Take it from a seasoned Delta flyer - the 2 bag/ 50lb limit rule on economy international flights to Asia has been their rule for several years now. However there are a couple of exceptions to this rule:
 
1. Skymile Medallion (Elite) members are allowed to check 2 bags weighing 70lbs each. In my opinion, this along with upgraded seats is one of the best benefits of becoming an Elite flyer with one of the airlines (or airline alliance). I use this benefit often and it applies to everyone on your itinerary so my wife and I get to check 4 bags weighing 70lbs each on our trips.
 
2. Business/First class passengers can check 3 bags weighing 70lbs each.
 
3. Military passengers traveling on orders can also check 3 bags weighing 70lbs each.
 
Maybe you lucked out last time and got a sympathetic agent who applied one of the exceptions to you. But I wouldn't count on that happening again as the airlines are pretty much sticklers about their baggage limits these days as the added fees for exceeding the limits are a big money maker for them.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: robert angel on May 28, 2011, 08:23:23 AM
actually i 1st asked if they could somehow strap me to one of the wings so that i could receive a deeply discounted fare. they declined so i was forced to buy one economy ticket  ;D :o ;D
 
 
pig

Ha ha--For some reason, I thought Pigglet always travels 'steerage' class!
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: michaelb on May 28, 2011, 08:54:40 AM
Pig, have you tried air freight? Or if you've got the time (and a Seaman's card) you could sign on as a deck hand and actually make a profit on the trip!
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 28, 2011, 09:05:12 AM

Take it from a seasoned Delta flyer - the 2 bag/ 50lb limit rule on economy international flights to Asia has been their rule for several years now. However there are a couple of exceptions to this rule:
 
1. Skymile Medallion (Elite) members are allowed to check 2 bags weighing 70lbs each. In my opinion, this along with upgraded seats is one of the best benefits of becoming an Elite flyer with one of the airlines (or airline alliance). I use this benefit often and it applies to everyone on your itinerary so my wife and I get to check 4 bags weighing 70lbs each on our trips.
 
2. Business/First class passengers can check 3 bags weighing 70lbs each.
 
3. Military passengers traveling on orders can also check 3 bags weighing 70lbs each.
 
Maybe you lucked out last time and got a sympathetic agent who applied one of the exceptions to you. But I wouldn't count on that happening again as the airlines are pretty much sticklers about their baggage limits these days as the added fees for exceeding the limits are a big money maker for them.
Similar for me for Cathay/OneWorld.

I have status with Cathay Marco Polo club & also Oneworld Emerald (about to go down to oneworld Sapphire) and if I fly on Cathay I get 3 bags no matter what class I fly. On my first trip to the Philippines I forgot all about that & only took 2 bags.  :-[
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on May 28, 2011, 09:08:03 AM
Pig, have you tried air freight? Or if you've got the time (and a Seaman's card) you could sign on as a deck hand and actually make a profit on the trip!
Don't temp him - he might just do it.  ;D
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on May 28, 2011, 12:43:08 PM
Pig, have you tried air freight? Or if you've got the time (and a Seaman's card) you could sign on as a deck hand and actually make a profit on the trip!
how much seaman will i have to bring with me to prove to them that i am the real article??? ;D :P :-X
Title: pre trip prep report
Post by: piglett on May 28, 2011, 12:58:18 PM
well due to the fact that this tread is still alive & kickin i guess i can turn it into my pre trip prep report
.......................................................................... ............
 
i have been hitting ebay & scooping up books for the wife so she can start to study for the NCLEX once she takes the national nursing exam in Manila on July 2nd & 3rd
 
I also started to hit the yard sales 2day
i intend to load one of my checked bags baby with & children's clothes for my wife's family. i bet they go nuts when i open up a bag & say "dig in"
 
i did a clean out down the street last month
the old guy who lived there up & died
he was about 90 so i guess his time was up
i scored some goodies including some carpentry tools
i bet my farther in-law could use a good handsaw,hammer,wrecking bar,bit-brace & drill bits
so I'll hook him up because how much of that kind of stuff do i really need??? once i have 2 or 3 of everything i think that mite just be enough
 
 
pig
Title: Re: pre trip prep report
Post by: thekfc on May 28, 2011, 04:47:40 PM
i intend to load one of my checked bags baby with & children's clothes for my wife's family. i bet they go nuts when i open up a bag & say "dig in" 
I did that on my first trip with some items & I almost started a fight - never again.

Now with everything I send or will send, I (we) will label who get what. I am also more selective with the items I send/will send & who get/will get what. We also divided her family into "tier". 
Title: Re: pre trip prep report
Post by: piglett on May 28, 2011, 05:53:59 PM
I did that on my first trip with some items & I almost started a fight - never again.

Now with everything I send or will send, I (we) will label who get what. I am also more selective with the items I send/will send & who get/will get what. We also divided her family into "tier".
except for hand tools (& fish finder)for dad the rest is all going to be clothes. After hearing about your previous experence maybe it would be best if i gave the bags of clothes to mama &
let her decide who gets what? i am sure they have their own pecking order & i don't want any hard fealings. one item that i already have is a pink Seatle cap, i bet they will almost scrap over that  ;D :D ;D  they seem to love anything american. 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: robert angel on May 28, 2011, 10:49:19 PM
Piglett,

When we go over we pretty much hand over the chocolate and trinkets over to my mother in law to let her decide what goes to whom. More pricey stuff, like Victoria's Secret, etc, my wife usually has some special people in mind, but we keep her mom in the loop. She has the most knowledge on who needs and what and who deserves the goodies most. It's easier and keeps us from looking cheap, bad etc....

I'm sure you've seen this too, but it still never ceases to amaze me that despite how precious things like American chocolates, candies and other little things are to people in their village, they pretty much give it all away. They are more inclined to keep some clothes that they need and certainly the tools I bring. It's kind of embarassing to go back, because inside their  home, they have almost sort of a non religious 'shrine' on which they have mounted assorted small wrenches, mini tools and the like. I guess I'm the patron saint of hand tools or something, lol. We think a pair of vice grips are handy and for sure they are, but over there, they find twice as many ways to use just about anything we give them.
Title: Re: pre trip prep report
Post by: thekfc on May 29, 2011, 09:41:26 AM
After hearing about your previous experence maybe it would be best if i gave the bags of clothes to mama & let her decide who gets what?
Good Idea!!

I'm sure you've seen this too, but it still never ceases to amaze me that despite how precious things like American chocolates, candies and other little things are to people in their village, they pretty much give it all away. They are more inclined to keep some clothes that they need and certainly the tools I bring. It's kind of embarassing to go back, because inside their  home, they have almost sort of a non religious 'shrine' on which they have mounted assorted small wrenches, mini tools and the like. I guess I'm the patron saint of hand tools or something, lol. We think a pair of vice grips are handy and for sure they are, but over there, they find twice as many ways to use just about anything we give them.
I have notice the same thing too about the chocolate.

Yep, the tools are precious. I gave 2 mini all-in-one tool last time and all I can say is that I am waiting for when they have the street fairs again to but a few more (different ones).

Another great gift to give is batteryless (shake) flash light - they do come in handy at night especially during brownouts. Also the small flashlight that you can attach to key chains are great.
Title: well i mite have reached the cross roads
Post by: piglett on June 02, 2011, 10:24:12 PM
Guys (&gals) i think i may need some input here
 
here is the deal.........
i have a night gig that used to only be about 3 or 4 shifts a week
it didn't really get in the way of the other things i do & infact payed my house payment & a couple other small bills
(electric bill & car insurance) 
However starting last winter co-workers started to quit or get fired & not all of them got replaced
so the rest of us started to get more hours which was OK with me at the time due to the fact that it was the middle of the winter & it was cold as hell outside. (i didn't mind standing next to a pizza oven  ;D
however it is now prime time for me to go make some real money & the part time gig has turned into 5 shifts a week which is making it really hard to do other things that pay a hell of lot better. i have asked for less hours but that fell on def ears
i have requested 3 days a week off in a row so i can clear out a pile of dead horses. still not much luck in getting these people to straighten up & fly rite :o
they say that they are having a hard time finding help because of the high price of gas & this job involves some driving.
 
here is the thing i have been putting people off that want to pay me double or more an hour to do work for them.
 
I also bought a good used f250 this spring with cash
to pull my car trailer with (my old toyota is really tired)
the price of junk cars is about $200 to $270 a ton this year in my area i can make anywhere between $100 to $300 per car depending on how cheep i can buy it & on how much they are paying at the scrap yard that week.BUT I have very little time to haul cars because i am always tied up. 
 
the long & the short of it is this , at this point it looks like the stupid pizza gig is costing me money
However how important is continuous emplotment ?? ?? 
i have been there 2 years & i don't want to screw up Marily's visa interview.
 
so do i grin & bear it & know that i could have made 5k / 10k more this year? or do i give my notice, leave the cave & go see what i can drag home ?
 
if i just show up to Marilys interview with a pile of receipts will that wash with them or am i shooting myself in the foot???
 
 
thanks
pig
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on June 02, 2011, 11:27:23 PM
 
pig,
 
They like to see steady, full-time employment with a decent income that at least meets the minimum standards. How long you have been on the job is not so important if you have been working steadily elsewhere before changing jobs.
 
You will need a letter from your current employer, dated near the interview date, and very recent payroll statements going back about 6 months or so, along with your last tax return.
 
I would secure a permanent position BEFORE quitting what you have now, especially if you get free pizzas!
 
Ray
 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on June 03, 2011, 08:44:52 AM

pig,
 
They like to see steady, full-time employment with a decent income that at least meets the minimum standards. How long you have been on the job is not so important if you have been working steadily elsewhere before changing jobs.
 
You will need a letter from your current employer, dated near the interview date, and very recent payroll statements going back about 6 months or so, along with your last tax return.
 
I would secure a permanent position BEFORE quitting what you have now, especially if you get free pizzas!
 
Ray
the pizza sucks IMHO  ??? however the rest of the food is good
i have my last tax return for 2010 & i was over the poverty limit for two no problem.
if i become self employed full time i will not have any payroll statements .....will i
that is what i am worried about
 
 
 
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: robert angel on June 03, 2011, 10:13:35 AM
Yea Piglett,

Until she gets off the plane, >>I would secure a permanent position BEFORE quitting what you have now<< sounds like a good idea. I make really good money in my part time job, but there's no guarantee of hours, so I keep my so called 'full time' job.

I have buddies who make great money on their own, with 'here or there' kind of work, but having a full time job, or at least steady work that gives you paper tax returns, means you're 'hitting for average' and actual or not, to the govt. it means that you're likely to make more money and be stable over the long run. Right now, salvage and metal in general is hot, but that'll change too.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on June 03, 2011, 04:18:30 PM
the pizza sucks IMHO  ??? however the rest of the food is good
i have my last tax return for 2010 & i was over the poverty limit for two no problem.
if i become self employed full time i will not have any payroll statements .....will i
that is what i am worried about
 

Being self-employed is much harder to show evidence of a steady income. After 2-3 years you can show a steady income with your tax returns, but in the short term you may have a lot of problems with the income/public charge factor at her interview time.
 
Being that you are getting real close to the interview, I would opt for staying with the steady employment, at least until she gets here. Then you can do whatever you want without showing evidence of income again.
 
You said over the poverty limit for two. Is that also over 125% of the poverty limit ($18,387)?
 
Have you already submitted your I-864?
 
Ray
 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on June 03, 2011, 10:27:06 PM

Being self-employed is much harder to show evidence of a steady income. After 2-3 years you can show a steady income with your tax returns, but in the short term you may have a lot of problems with the income/public charge factor at her interview time.
 
Being that you are getting real close to the interview, I would opt for staying with the steady employment, at least until she gets here. Then you can do whatever you want without showing evidence of income again.
 
You said over the poverty limit for two. Is that also over 125% of the poverty limit ($18,387)?
 
Have you already submitted your I-864?
 
Ray
 
 
last year i had a little over 10k from the pizza shop plus a 1099 from a job i did for the local hospital which was $3500 (i tore down a building for them on a property they owned) the rest was from recites from the scrap yard. i didn't lay rite into taking every single deduction that i could have so that my adjusted gross income would be above 20k. what i have found is it's not all that hard to make your adjusted gross income fairly low if that is what you wish. however i didn't wish for that to take place this past year so i just took the standard deductions that most self employed people take.
 
no i haven't done the I-864 yet because Marily one way or another has to be in the Philippine until she gets her nursing license & then her employer requested that she give 30 days notice which she agreed to. in return they will give her a great letter of recommendation. i know some guys would say "screw them , get on the plane already" however they were nice enough to let her take 3 1/2 months off two different times so she could study for her nursing exam so i don't think it would be rite for her to not hold up her end of the agreement.
 
once i return from my July trip we will start the ball rolling again.
infact if i get my act together i can print up & have her sign whatever needs signing while i am over there.
 
 
thanks pig
 
PS: it looks like i have to suck it up & hang out with these turkeys a while longer 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on June 04, 2011, 07:13:45 AM
 
piggy,
 
That $18,387 minimum income is not adjusted gross, but net income.
 
So if she fails the exam again, you're leaving her over there until she gets a license, no matter how long it takes?? If I were you, I would get hot on that paperwork ASAP and get her visa now! After she takes the exam, she can jump on a plane and wait for the results here with you.
 
In the event that she doesn't pass this time, you better have a plan B!
 
Ray
 
 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on June 04, 2011, 09:13:51 AM
I have to agree with Ray - get the visa now and then make any "adjustments/changes" to her/your "schedule".
 
You have already waited a year, how much longer will you wait?



Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on June 04, 2011, 01:43:49 PM
piggy,
That $18,387 minimum income is not adjusted gross, but net income.So if she fails the exam again, you're leaving her over there until she gets a license, no matter how long it takes?? If I were you, I would get hot on that paperwork ASAP and get her visa now! After she takes the exam, she can jump on a plane and wait for the results here with you.
In the event that she doesn't pass this time, you better have a plan B! Ray
I have to agree with Ray - get the visa now and then make any "adjustments/changes" to her/your "schedule".
You have already waited a year, how much longer will you wait?
well here is the thing guys, after talking with our long time member Howard & hearing about all the pitfalls which can show up the safe money is on Marily getting her nursing license there & then getting on a plane with her visa. now granted if she doesn't pass this time the plan will have to change. having said that once she is here there is no good way for her to get her nursing license for the PI. she does have the paperwork in hand to start her credential review which is the 1st step for any foreign nurse who wants to obtain a new hampshire nursing license.
so i am trying to spread my bets so if something falls through there is still something to back it up. I know you guys say " get her here NOW" well that mite cost me 80k & she mite have to retake all of her nursing classes here so do you still feel that way ?? ??
 
oh also Ray i was screwed up when i said adjusted gross income i really meant net income that i paid taxes on
 
 
thanks guys
pig   
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on June 04, 2011, 05:01:37 PM
I know you guys say " get her here NOW"
I was saying to get the Visa (NVC process) started now - not get her here now.

Piglett, Marily came so close to passing the last exam & I think that she will pass the exam this time so this was the reasoning behind my thinking:

Start NVC: June/July 2011
Case Complete: September 2011
Interview: October/November 2011
Visa: November/December 2011
Expiration of Visa:  April/May 2012

She get the exam results = September 2011
Say another two months to get nursing license = November 2011
Give her employer 30 days notice = December 2011.

If everything goes according to plan - that would give you & her until April/May 2012 to "tie up all loose ends".

If by a slim chance that she do fail again, remember that the petition expire in a year & you will have to make a decision on what to do before it expires.

You know your situation better than anybody else & what is best for the two of you. And whatever route you take, we are here, will be here & will support you but we will still bust your pork chops.  :P
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on June 04, 2011, 05:53:15 PM
 
pig,
 
Hopefully she will pass the exam this time.
 
BUT, if she doesn’t pass then you better have a plan besides sitting on your butt for possibly years before she gets the license.
 
Say she takes the exam in July and passes. She doesn’t have to stay in the Philippines waiting for the results for 2-3 months. And She doesn’t have to attend the oath taking ceremony either from what I understand. I believe she can sign the oath form and turn in a notarized copy, probably by mail, and they will mail her license. She might even have to go to the nearest Philippine Consulate here to take the oath. Have her check with the nursing board.
 
Get the damn visa, have her study her butt off, have her take the exam, and then jump on the plane. The worst that could happen is that she fails and then you two can decide what to do from there. As far as studying for the licensing exam, she can do that here if she decides to go back and take another exam next time.
 
It’s your marriage pig, but it is my opinion that you are too concerned about that RN license and wasting your time by not getting that visa processed ASAP.
 
Ray
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on June 04, 2011, 07:28:52 PM
I was saying to get the Visa (NVC process) started now - not get her here now.

Piglett, Marily came so close to passing the last exam & I think that she will pass the exam this time so this was the reasoning behind my thinking:

Start NVC: June/July 2011
Case Complete: September 2011
Interview: October/November 2011
Visa: November/December 2011
Expiration of Visa:  April/May 2012

She get the exam results = September 2011
Say another two months to get nursing license = November 2011
Give her employer 30 days notice = December 2011.

If everything goes according to plan - that would give you & her until April/May 2012 to "tie up all loose ends".

If by a slim chance that she do fail again, remember that the petition expire in a year & you will have to make a decision on what to do before it expires.

You know your situation better than anybody else & what is best for the two of you. And whatever route you take, we are here, will be here & will support you but we will still bust your pork chops.  :P
 
pig,
 
Hopefully she will pass the exam this time.
 
BUT, if she doesn't pass then you better have a plan besides sitting on your butt for possibly years before she gets the license.
 
Say she takes the exam in July and passes. She doesn't have to stay in the Philippines waiting for the results for 2-3 months. And She doesn't have to attend the oath taking ceremony either from what I understand. I believe she can sign the oath form and turn in a notarized copy, probably by mail, and they will mail her license. She might even have to go to the nearest Philippine Consulate here to take the oath. Have her check with the nursing board.
 
Get the damn visa, have her study her butt off, have her take the exam, and then jump on the plane. The worst that could happen is that she fails and then you two can decide what to do from there. As far as studying for the licensing exam, she can do that here if she decides to go back and take another exam next time.
 
It's your marriage pig, but it is my opinion that you are too concerned about that RN license and wasting your time by not getting that visa processed ASAP.
 
Ray
 
well guys i can look into what the NVC people require & then go from there. I haven't even looked due to the fact that i was wanting to give her some time so she could wrap up the nursing license thing there.i didn't want to put any extra pressure on her by having her have to sit on the visa. i thought that she had enough pressure on her already due to the fact that she didn't pass the test last time
if she doesn't pass this time i guess I'll roll the dice & get her on a plane. however due to the fact that she only missed it by 1% last time i would think this time would be a cake walk .....but i could be wrong.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: michaelb on June 04, 2011, 07:54:28 PM
Well they're not going to give her the visa the day after you apply for it, you know, takes them quite a while to process it. Even after they give it, she has 6 months (Ray or W-3, correct me if I'm wrong) to use it....so you may as well go ahead and apply for it now.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on June 04, 2011, 08:26:10 PM
remember that the petition expire in a year & you will have to make a decision on what to do before it expires.

  :P
are you saying that she needs to have her visa in hand exactly 1 year after we petitioned for it ???
 
 
pig
 
PS: 1 year ago i was saying "I DO"
just got off the phone with Marily & she is well in Manila
but it is quite hot there
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: fathertime on June 04, 2011, 09:41:17 PM

Hey pigglett,


I don’t know every detail of your situation but I think I have the gist of it.  I think you should strongly consider gettting this visa process going NOW.  You are letting a lot of time elapse and you have a long visa process too, and our lives get shorter each day. 
I think the odds are that your wife will pass that test.  If she doesn’t pass it, and she has to come here before she passes it, then she can still study here and go back in the future and pass the test.  Heck, she can deliver or spin the pizzas at night if you guys need some extra cash for the ticket back to PI to take the test again!   
I really think you gotta make face time a priority, It is just so unnatural to be apart for potentially years.  At some point you have to stand up for your needs and I imagine you need to have your wife with you.   


I hope you don’t mind my asking, but what does your wife want to do when she lands here?  Does she want to work, have kids, do both, or neither?  I would assume that her goals are at least in the same ballpark as yours.  I saw the photos of you and your wife and you guys look really very nice together and it is a damn shame that you have been apart for this long already. 


Fathertime!
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on June 04, 2011, 10:34:40 PM
Hey pigglett,


I don’t know every detail of your situation but I think I have the gist of it.  I think you should strongly consider gettting this visa process going NOW.  You are letting a lot of time elapse and you have a long visa process too, and our lives get shorter each day. 
I think the odds are that your wife will pass that test.  If she doesn’t pass it, and she has to come here before she passes it, then she can still study here and go back in the future and pass the test.  Heck, she can deliver or spin the pizzas at night if you guys need some extra cash for the ticket back to PI to take the test again!   
I really think you gotta make face time a priority, It is just so unnatural to be apart for potentially years.  At some point you have to stand up for your needs and I imagine you need to have your wife with you.   


I hope you don’t mind my asking, but what does your wife want to do when she lands here?  Does she want to work, have kids, do both, or neither?  I would assume that her goals are at least in the same ballpark as yours.  I saw the photos of you and your wife and you guys look really very nice together and it is a damn shame that you have been apart for this long already. 


Fathertime!
no i don't mind at all FT. after all isn't why all of us post .....to bounce things around & have others with different prospectives weigh in ??
 
well Marily wants to take the NCLEX which is the test so she can be an RN here in the states as soon as she arrives. I talked to lady from the Philippines that said the test is ez compared to the killer 2 day test in her home country. she said she studied 2 or 3 hours every day for about a month & then went ahead & took the test. my understanding is this the test there is all about how things are done "by the book" however here the test is about the practical way things are done.
Before my wife & i ever married we had a long talk some of which was about babies & we decided that we would wait until she is 32 which is 4 years from now. 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on June 05, 2011, 06:12:48 AM
are you saying that she needs to have her visa in hand exactly 1 year after we petitioned for it ???   
Correction, not expire but I think that NVC can "close" your case after 1 year if they get no response from you ( I think your 1 year is up April 2012) - but before that happen they will send you reminders & notices. William3rd & others can correct me on that.

well guys i can look into what the NVC people require & then go from there. I haven't even looked
Piglett, even if you not going to continue the process now, you can at least get familiarize with the process & what documents are needed.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on June 05, 2011, 09:29:32 AM
Piglett, even if you not going to continue the process now, you can at least get familiarize with the process & what documents are needed.
point taken "K" thanks
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: robert angel on June 05, 2011, 07:40:47 PM
Re:
 
>>William3rd & others can correct me on that<<
 
It's been mid March since William3rd's posted here. I'm assuming he and his family are well--anybody heard and at liberty to comment? Nice fellow and a real asset to P-L for sure!
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on June 05, 2011, 10:50:44 PM
Even after they give it, she has 6 months ... to use it....

 
6 months is correct. And you can also get that extended, with a good reason.
 
 
Ray
 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Capstone on June 06, 2011, 07:51:03 AM
Correction, not expire but I think that NVC can "close" your case after 1 year if they get no response from you ( I think your 1 year is up April 2012) - but before that happen they will send you reminders & notices. William3rd & others can correct me on that.
Piglett, even if you not going to continue the process now, you can at least get familiarize with the process & what documents are needed.


You were actually correct about there being an expiration date - visa petitions do indeed have an expiration date. The validity of the visa petition is listed on the NOA2 petition approval notification that is received from USCIS. K-1 petitions usually expire 120 days after the approval date - I am not sure if the expiration date for CR/IR-1 visas is the same as a K-1 but I suspect that it probably is.


Pig - you should be focused on getting the visa. Like others have already said, once she does receive the visa, she will have 6 months to use it, so that would still give you a lot of time to tie up loose ends. If she does not pass the exam this time, you will have a lot more options at your disposal if she has a visa than if she doesn't.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on June 06, 2011, 08:15:02 AM
And pig, no more talk about you trying to get the visa process expedited.  :-X
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on June 06, 2011, 07:02:26 PM
And pig, no more talk about you trying to get the visa process expedited.  :-X

You were actually correct about there being an expiration date - visa petitions do indeed have an expiration date. The validity of the visa petition is listed on the NOA2 petition approval notification that is received from USCIS. K-1 petitions usually expire 120 days after the approval date - I am not sure if the expiration date for CR/IR-1 visas is the same as a K-1 but I suspect that it probably is.


Pig - you should be focused on getting the visa. Like others have already said, once she does receive the visa, she will have 6 months to use it, so that would still give you a lot of time to tie up loose ends. If she does not pass the exam this time, you will have a lot more options at your disposal if she has a visa than if she doesn't.

 
6 months is correct. And you can also get that extended, with a good reason.
 
 
Ray
ok guys thanks for bustin out the cattle prod or in this case "the pig prod" ;D  I'll print up all the docs. & take them with me when i go on my stip. once i read over everything, i figure "how hard could it be?"
 
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on June 06, 2011, 09:54:18 PM
ok guys thanks for bustin out the cattle prod or in this case "the pig prod" ;D  I'll print up all the docs. & take them with me when i go on my stip. once i read over everything, i figure "how hard could it be?"
 
pig

Harder than you think. Wasn't your petition approved and forwarded to the NVC?
 
You don't need to bring any documents with you on your trip. You need to get them into the NVC for processing!
 
Your wife should be getting all her documents together by now...passport, birth cert, baptismal cert, NBI clearance, CFO seminar, etc.
 
Ray
 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: thekfc on June 07, 2011, 04:59:40 AM
Your wife should be getting all her documents together by now...passport, birth cert, baptismal cert, NBI clearance, CFO seminar, etc.
Piglett read the instruction for NVC, the stuff you will now need - see the above.

Get familiarize & get the documents needed while you are in the PI - it will save you time & money (FEDEX & UPS isn't cheap). And do not get just one original from the issuing office - you will need one for NVC & she will need one for the interview (to be on the save sife - never know if they will ask for it at the interview).

Also don't forget about emailing the choice of agent while you are there - from her email account.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on June 09, 2011, 06:10:00 PM
That $18,387 minimum income is not adjusted gross, but net income.

Did I say "net" income? OOPS! I meant to say "total" income instead of net.
 
Ray
 
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Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on June 09, 2011, 10:02:48 PM

Did I say "net" income? OOPS! I meant to say "total" income instead of net.
 
Ray
 
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oooh total income as in what i brought in before any expenses....got ya , well i should be good to go then
 
BTW i like watching you bash yourself in the head with that mallet ;D
 
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Dave H on June 12, 2011, 09:21:35 PM
 
pig,
 

It’s your marriage pig, but it is my opinion that you are too concerned about that RN license and wasting your time by not getting that visa processed ASAP.
 
Ray
 

I agree...she can retake (if needed) the Philippine national exam another time (on vacation) if need be. Kaplan offers a good NCLEX review class.
 
Good luck!
 
Dave
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: piglett on June 12, 2011, 10:29:32 PM

I agree...she can retake (if needed) the Philippine national exam another time (on vacation) if need be. Kaplan offers a good NCLEX review class.
 
Good luck!
 
Dave
guys.... she will be taking the test in 3 weeks & then it's done problem solved!!!
i was trying to time her getting her nursing license & visa so they would happen at about the same time, by the looks of it the 2 will now happen in november (that's my best guess)
 
 
thanks
pig
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on June 12, 2011, 11:28:33 PM
Well, a note of caution piglett. I think what Ray is saying is total income (top line of form 1040) which isn't your business revenues. It's your business revenues less your business expenses - business profits (bottom line of your schedule C if you're a sole proprietorship.) In other words, your business income minus business expenses but before your personal deductions. Though I'm very familiar with business financials, I'm not a CPA though, so I'd suggest you contact one before you start filling out forms.
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Ray on June 13, 2011, 03:07:17 PM
Well, a note of caution piglett. I think what Ray is saying is total income (top line of form 1040) which isn't your business revenues. It's your business revenues less your business expenses - business profits (bottom line of your schedule C if you're a sole proprietorship.) In other words, your business income minus business expenses but before your personal deductions. Though I'm very familiar with business financials, I'm not a CPA though, so I'd suggest you contact one before you start filling out forms.

Jeff,
 
What they specifically use to determine annual income on the Affidavit of Support is the amount on the line for gross (total income) from your tax returns for the last 3 years. This would be Line 22 on the 1040 or Line 15 on the 1040-A. Of course this does include the amount from Schedule C.
 
You must provide a copy or transcript of your federal return for the most recent tax year, including all attached schedules and forms. The previous 2 returns before that are optional.
 
Ray
 
 
 
Title: Re: I have had a setback
Post by: Jeff S on June 13, 2011, 05:43:15 PM
That's what I thought Ray. That's why I told Piglett it was business revenues after expenses. You can only add the bottom line of your schedule C (after expenses) to your 1040, not all the money your business took in.


Piglet said:


Quote
oooh total income as in what i brought in before any expenses....got ya , well i should be good to go then


And so he is not correct. Add your business income after expenses to your total other earned income.