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Hello Everyone,
I am very excited to join this forum and to see what I can learn from all the information and everyone's experiences. I am a 30 year old white male with brown hair and blue eyes. I am 6'1 and like to stay fit and eat healthy. My main goal is to go on Jamie's International Introduction Romance Tour and to hopefully find a very pretty Colombian girl that I can start the K-1 Fiance Visa process with.
What I am looking for is information and advice about the best way to find the right girl on a trip like this and the experience people have had with International Introductions Romance Tour. Please let me know what I can do to prepare for the trip that may increase my chances of finding the right women and what I can expect from the trip. I would really appreciate some advice and insight! Thank you very much!
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Hello Everyone,
I am very excited to join this forum and to see what I can learn from all the information and everyone's experiences. I am a 30 year old white male with brown hair and blue eyes. I am 6'1 and like to stay fit and eat healthy. My main goal is to go on Jamie's International Introduction Romance Tour and to hopefully find a very pretty Colombian girl that I can start the K-1 Fiance Visa process with.
What I am looking for is information and advice about the best way to find the right girl on a trip like this and the experience people have had with International Introductions Romance Tour. Please let me know what I can do to prepare for the trip that may increase my chances of finding the right women and what I can expect from the trip. I would really appreciate some advice and insight! Thank you very much!
Consensus in the past has consistently been:
Listen and learn from what Jamie tells you.
Work on your Spanish.
Especially if you don't have a lot of time, and have difficulty w/ Spanish, Jamie can help you make the most of your time help w/ language and put some gals in front of you who at least have been vetted to some extent.
Agencies and 'tours' are dying out, research, using the internet,social media and technology is as advisable as ever, but Jamie's operation still gets good reviews from newbies and seasoned veterans heading to BQ.
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Thank you very much for the advice Robert!!! I really appreciate it.
How can I DM you?
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Thank you very much for the advice Robert!!! I really appreciate it.
How can I DM you?
I'm pretty sure you have to post a certain number of times b4 you can send private messages. Feel free to send a few blips, namely short posts (no violation doing so) and you'll be freed up to PM pretty quick.
You're in a great spot age wise-- in a lot of developing nations, women worry that guys in their twenties just.want to play, play, play and having hit that milestone puts ya in a fairly sweet spot.
While it's natural to gravitate towards the cutest, 'hottest' looking babes, realize that especially if you're hoping to bring her to the USA eventually, if she's an "8" on the cute/pretty/hot scale there, she'll be a lot closer to a '10' here.
The hottest babes are more likely to be higher maintenance and mileage may vary...
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Awesome!! Thank you very much for the information Robert! This was exactly the type of info that I was looking for. I look forward to bouncing some more questions off of you as I begin to prepare for my trip. Thanks again!
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Awesome!! Thank you very much for the information Robert! This was exactly the type of info that I was looking for. I look forward to bouncing some more questions off of you as I begin to prepare for my trip. Thanks again!
You realize Robert has never set foot in Colombia?
Best wait for others on this site who have actually used Jamies service (there are a few on here)to chime in
(Hopefully they do)
Sorry Robert .no offense intended
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I think the latest back and forth on Jamie’s is this thread:
http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?topic=8645.0
My main goal is to go on Jamie's International Introduction Romance Tour and to hopefully find a very pretty Colombian girl that I can start the K-1 Fiance Visa process with.
You’re only 30. Take your time. Date a while. Get to know the culture. You may be one of the lucky few to find your dream girl on the first trip but it’s not likely. Even if you think you’ve found her there are a plethora or hurdles you’ll probably have to overcome before you get to the K-1 stage. Will she be able to handle the distance when you return? Will she be willing to dedicate herself to learning English? What’s her family’s financial situation and would you be expected to help them if you married her. The list goes on and on.
There are tons of awesome single, beautiful women in Colombia that would make great wives. But there are plenty of bat $hit crazy train wrecks as well. Jamie’s agency doesn’t do psychiatric analyses of the women and they don’t research whether or not they are gold-diggers or visa hunters. You have to figure that stuff out yourself, which most rookies have trouble doing because the beauty makes you stupid initially. I’m not sure why you’ve chosen to search for a wife SOTB but if you think you’re going escape from everything you dislike about American Women you’re probably wrong. The only significant difference is Colombianas are waaaaay hotter and most have a traditional approach to marriage, family and gender roles.
Best of luck.
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Have you ever heard of the expression "no dar papaya"? You may want to google it.
The Colombian way of life is governed by two aspects of this expression. The first is that you should NEVER put yourself in a position to be taken advantage of. The second is if someone puts themselves in a position to be taken advantage of, then it is your duty to take advantage of them.
Most gringos used to life in North America are not equipped to deal with Colombia or its women. You have to be a ruthless suspicious SOB or else you will be eaten like a chihuahua at an alligator watering hole.
Colombian women are used to men who are selfish and cheat on them and even though they say they want a man who is not like what they are used to, they will take advantage of an unsuspecting gringo. Any weakness on your part will be used against you.
You must learn Spanish so you can understand what the people around you are saying - otherwise you will be at their mercy. I was extremely lucky in that my wife and her family always looked out for me but it could easily have been otherwise.
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Have you ever heard of the expression "no dar papaya"? You may want to google it.
The Colombian way of life is governed by two aspects of this expression. The first is that you should NEVER put yourself in a position to be taken advantage of. The second is if someone puts themselves in a position to be taken advantage of, then it is your duty to take advantage of them.
Most gringos used to life in North America are not equipped to deal with Colombia or its women. You have to be a ruthless suspicious SOB or else you will be eaten like a chihuahua at an alligator watering hole.
Colombian women are used to men who are selfish and cheat on them and even though they say they want a man who is not like what they are used to, they will take advantage of an unsuspecting gringo. Any weakness on your part will be used against you.
You must learn Spanish so you can understand what the people around you are saying - otherwise you will be at their mercy. I was extremely lucky in that my wife and her family always looked out for me but it could easily have been otherwise.
Excellent advice.
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Welcome to the club.
I've used Jaime's agency, lived in BQ and Cali, and I like Jaime.
I recommend as soon as you get off the plane, go get laid to take the edge off. Preferably 3 times to get a reset on your body and mind. Don't start meeting these girls that Jaime introduces you to while you are still horny. Your brain won't be functioning properly, and you won't even know how foolish you're behaving. Jaime can help you find some hot girls that are not in the agency to help you get a physical and mental "reset". Pay for it, have some fun, then move on to meeting some real girls.
Think of your 1st trip as a research mission, not an end game. Focus on having fun, think of the girls as just fun dates, go out, relax, and take all the pressure off your trip. If you are struck by lightning, and you meet the one, then great. Don't plan on it, or obsess on "making the best of your trip"
You're young and have your entire life to make a bad decision that may follow you financially and emotionally for many years. This is serious business if you are reckless, and can really screw up your life. You bring a girl over here on a K-1, and you have then lost complete control. Contrary to popular belief, you can't just send her back if she doesn't want to go. There are ways for her to stay, and make your life miserable. Time is on your side, and the longer you know a girl, and the more you spend time with her, the more she will reveal about herself unintentionally. Take it slow, enjoy the entire process, and listen to the guys here on this board even after you meet a stunner, and you lose your mind. And you will.
Down the road a bit, after you are speaking some Spanish if you're not already, and you meet one girl that stands the test of time, you can then consider doing a K-1. I had a good 10 year run with a Cali girl, but I would certainly do things differently with my 20/20 hindsight.
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You realize Robert has never set foot in Colombia?
Best wait for others on this site who have actually used Jamies service (there are a few on here)to chime in
(Hopefully they do)
Sorry Robert .no offense intended
Some sage advice above, especially from U.C., and Benjio & JWR, who know Jamie and the "lay of the land' quite well.
Of course I didn't insinuate I've been to Colombia, closest I got was 10 miles off of Venezuela last year, with no interest in going there! Might as well have been 1100 miles away.
But any advice given was pretty much a generic reply, based on previous L.A. posts, on good advice period.
And of course, we don't always allow sufficient time to find the 'right' or at least 'best' woman.
Never mind Porsche, think "TIME: There is NO substitute."
This place has gone WEEKS without posts recently and when I saw a new member signed in, posted and a day went by with guess what? --> ZILCH posts, I figured well, somebody ought to respond.
Take Uncle Elex with a grain of salt, his mileage and reported satisfaction has been quite varied, as has Calipro's.
That said, there's probably something to be learned from every one of us here--it's surprising but I can't think of any two of us here who got where they are today doing it the same way as another guy.
Just look for common denominators here, then factor in numbers of your own.
I guess what's left of the P.L. 'regulars' here is an overly busy bunch of feckers lol,!
I'M on a mix of lazy/busy 'permanent vacation' early retirement and yet I find time!
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Hello Everyone,
I am very excited to join this forum and to see what I can learn from all the information and everyone's experiences. I am a 30 year old white male with brown hair and blue eyes. I am 6'1 and like to stay fit and eat healthy. My main goal is to go on Jamie's International Introduction Romance Tour and to hopefully find a very pretty Colombian girl that I can start the K-1 Fiance Visa process with.
What I am looking for is information and advice about the best way to find the right girl on a trip like this and the experience people have had with International Introductions Romance Tour. Please let me know what I can do to prepare for the trip that may increase my chances of finding the right women and what I can expect from the trip. I would really appreciate some advice and insight! Thank you very much!
I didn't think anybody traveled to Colombia or anywhere else for the exclusive purpose of finding a wife in a few short weeks. I guess you haven't been influenced by the MGTOW (men going their own way) movement. jajaja
Best thing you can do is learn Spanish.
Second thing you can do which is a lot easier is read a couple of books to help you get rid of years of indoctrination into the feminist culture of the USA.
https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3COWKA0IZ2GBR&keywords=rational+male&qid=1563579340&s=gateway&sprefix=ratio%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3COWKA0IZ2GBR&keywords=rational+male&qid=1563579340&s=gateway&sprefix=ratio%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-1)
I don't know what your track record is for attracting women. But there is only one book and one way I have found to work in Colombia and it is all in this book. Wish I would have it when I was 20 but now that I'm 57 this is the book I would have written to help guys approach women.
https://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty/dp/1463750358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XF6DHFM2ZQNX&keywords=mark+manson+models+attract+women+through+honesty&qid=1563579423&s=gateway&sprefix=attract+women+with+honesty%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty/dp/1463750358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XF6DHFM2ZQNX&keywords=mark+manson+models+attract+women+through+honesty&qid=1563579423&s=gateway&sprefix=attract+women+with+honesty%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1)
After more than 20 years living in and traveling to Colombia there are two very important things I have learned.
Marriage is for procreation and having a family. Do not marry a woman that does not want to have your babies. If you marry a woman with someone else's children then she will be marrying you so you can take care of her and some other guys kids......it can work out if you want to take that on....but why not have your own. If you date a woman with children she is going to make sure you want to take care of her kids....so don't fill shy about making sure a woman wants to have your children before getting too involved. Because if she isn't interested in having a family with you then it is anybody's guess why she would want to marry a guy she won't know every well and leaving her family, friends and everything she has ever known behind. And when you do find out what the reason is.....you very well might not like it much. jajaja
And the second thing I have learned about Colombia is that God wants you to be happy. It doesn't really matter if you believe that....because they do. And that is one big can of worms when you really sit down and think about it. Because someone can justify almost anything with that can of belief system. jajajaja
And that only thing that is going to put belief system in check is her commitment to you and your children. That is why it is very important that you find a Colombiana that wants to have a family with you.
If you don't want a family or aren't ready for a family then just go down to Colombia and enjoy yourself. And if you do get married just to bring her here so you have someone to live with until you are ready.....just know that it will most likely not last. So might as well bring the hottest one you can find. I did that a couple of times....wasn't bad and I don't regret it....but if you are looking for a relationship that will last then take my advice....and marry a Colombiana that wants a family with you.
One last thing....some guys are so out of touch that they some how think that I chick will not respect them or think that they are not serious if they try and sleep with them. I have seen a couple of this types on the board and they were doomed for failure.
There are few things that you can really know about someone on a one or two week trip. But luckily finding out if you are sexually compatible is one if the few things you can know for relative certainty in a couple of weeks. Because if a colombian chick really likes you....she will be sleeping with you every night.
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I didn't think anybody traveled to Colombia or anywhere else for the exclusive purpose of finding a wife in a few short weeks. I guess you haven't been influenced by the MGTOW (men going their own way) movement. jajaja
Best thing you can do is learn Spanish.
Second thing you can do which is a lot easier is read a couple of books to help you get rid of years of indoctrination into the feminist culture of the USA.
https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3COWKA0IZ2GBR&keywords=rational+male&qid=1563579340&s=gateway&sprefix=ratio%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3COWKA0IZ2GBR&keywords=rational+male&qid=1563579340&s=gateway&sprefix=ratio%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-1)
I don't know what your track record is for attracting women. But there is only one book and one way I have found to work in Colombia and it is all in this book. Wish I would have it when I was 20 but now that I'm 57 this is the book I would have written to help guys approach women.
https://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty/dp/1463750358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XF6DHFM2ZQNX&keywords=mark+manson+models+attract+women+through+honesty&qid=1563579423&s=gateway&sprefix=attract+women+with+honesty%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty/dp/1463750358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XF6DHFM2ZQNX&keywords=mark+manson+models+attract+women+through+honesty&qid=1563579423&s=gateway&sprefix=attract+women+with+honesty%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1)
After more than 20 years living in and traveling to Colombia there are two very important things I have learned.
Marriage is for procreation and having a family. Do not marry a woman that does not want to have your babies. If you marry a woman with someone else's children then she will be marrying you so you can take care of her and some other guys kids......it can work out if you want to take that on....but why not have your own. If you date a woman with children she is going to make sure you want to take care of her kids....so don't fill shy about making sure a woman wants to have your children before getting too involved. Because if she isn't interested in having a family with you then it is anybody's guess why she would want to marry a guy she won't know every well and leaving her family, friends and everything she has ever known behind. And when you do find out what the reason is.....you very well might not like it much. jajaja
And the second thing I have learned about Colombia is that God wants you to be happy. It doesn't really matter if you believe that....because they do. And that is one big can of worms when you really sit down and think about it. Because someone can justify almost anything with that can of belief system. jajajaja
And that only thing that is going to put belief system in check is her commitment to you and your children. That is why it is very important that you find a Colombiana that wants to have a family with you.
If you don't want a family or aren't ready for a family then just go down to Colombia and enjoy yourself. And if you do get married just to bring her here so you have someone to live with until you are ready.....just know that it will most likely not last. So might as well bring the hottest one you can find. I did that a couple of times....wasn't bad and I don't regret it....but if you are looking for a relationship that will last then take my advice....and marry a Colombiana that wants a family with you.
One last thing....some guys are so out of touch that they some how think that I chick will not respect them or think that they are not serious if they try and sleep with them. I have seen a couple of this types on the board and they were doomed for failure.
There are few things that you can really know about someone on a one or two week trip. But luckily finding out if you are sexually compatible is one if the few things you can know for relative certainty in a couple of weeks. Because if a colombian chick really likes you....she will be sleeping with you every night.
Of course if you take a woman from her surrounding cultural values and take her to the USA, marriage and children or not, here in the 'land of milk and honey' with alimony, child support, materialism, bill boards screaming "Divorce for $175" and a few poorly chosen friends, all bets are off. The whole equation is skewed dangerously.
I gambled big, marrying a gorgeous woman well over twenty years my junior, me post vasectomy with two young sons, explaining I was NOT having it reversed. Being honest and open payed off. I wish I hadn't waited 4 whole years before asking for her hand, or we'd otherwise be looking at eighteen years together rather than 14. I kept saying to myself: "Too young, too cute, too well educated, great family--no...." But my embracing her total faith in God--(and a bit of superstition too) that's good, those God fearing values (and they're a very mixed bag) kept her true to course.
But yeah, children can be the glue or destruction of relationships.
I still say "Go big or go home" but when the stakes are big, giving it time and thought, but remaining alpha, objective and decisive---those traits will decide the outcome.
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Of course if you take a woman from her surrounding cultural values and take her to the USA, marriage and children or not, here in the 'land of milk and honey' with alimony, child support, materialism, bill boards screaming "Divorce for $175" and a few poorly chosen friends, all bets are off. The whole equation is skewed dangerously.
I gambled big, marrying a gorgeous woman well over twenty years my junior, me post vasectomy with two young sons, explaining I was NOT having it reversed. Being honest and open payed off. I wish I hadn't waited 4 whole years before asking for her hand, or we'd otherwise be looking at eighteen years together rather than 14. I kept saying to myself: "Too young, too cute, too well educated, great family--no...." But my embracing her total faith in God--(and a bit of superstition too) that's good, those God fearing values (and they're a very mixed bag) kept her true to course.
But yeah, children can be the glue or destruction of relationships.
I still say "Go big or go home" but when the stakes are big, giving it time and thought, but remaining alpha, objective and decisive---those traits will decide the outcome.
Good advice here from alot of experienced guys. I do think the OP shouldn't even be considering bringing a Colombiana to the States. He should learn Spanish have as much fun as possible in Colombia ,and then figure out a way to go expat....
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Of course if you take a woman from her surrounding cultural values and take her to the USA, marriage and children or not, here in the 'land of milk and honey' with alimony, child support, materialism, bill boards screaming "Divorce for $175" and a few poorly chosen friends, all bets are off. The whole equation is skewed dangerously.
I gambled big, marrying a gorgeous woman well over twenty years my junior, me post vasectomy with two young sons, explaining I was NOT having it reversed. Being honest and open payed off. I wish I hadn't waited 4 whole years before asking for her hand, or we'd otherwise be looking at eighteen years together rather than 14. I kept saying to myself: "Too young, too cute, too well educated, great family--no...." But my embracing her total faith in God--(and a bit of superstition too) that's good, those God fearing values (and they're a very mixed bag) kept her true to course.
But yeah, children can be the glue or destruction of relationships.
I still say "Go big or go home" but when the stakes are big, giving it time and thought, but remaining alpha, objective and decisive---those traits will decide the outcome.
I plan on bringing my wife and daughter to the US in a little less than five years. My daughter will be six, my wife will be 36 and I'll be 62.
I will be in a unique position in that my wife will collect about $1400 a month in child in care benefits from my Social Security record and my daughter will also collect about $1400 for being the minor child of a Social Security beneficiary.
If my wife divorces me she will stop getting the 1400 a month. I don't think that would stop someone from leaving if the really wanted. But it would be a loss on her part none the less.
I'm sure there will be plenty of thirsty guys in the US half my age that would think that taking my wife and raising my daughter as their own would be a great way for them to spend the rest of their lives. jajaja But they haven't met me yet. LOL!
I have thought about the talk I would have with a guy that wanted to do that to himself. About how having to deal with me for really the rest of his life would ruin any peace and tranquility he might have ever envisioned for himself.
I'm not above taking the guy out altogether if it came to it. No guy other than me will live with my daughter until she is 18. The only way that my wife could live with someone else is if my daughter lived with me or I'm dead. I don't really think my wife would go down that road because we have already discussed this and she knows I am dead serious.
I guess she could just up and leave without a trace and never see me or live in our house in Colombia again.....but I have hard time seeing her as being that selfish. Taking my child away from me isn't something I think she is capable of. She knows I love my daughter and my daughter loves me. And I don't think she even thinks it is possible for me to be completely replaced by some other guy.
I don't have a thing to worry about here in Colombia because no guy is going to sign up to take care of another man's child....really very rare and the only time I have seen it done is if the woman has the new guys child and then sometimes the guy will accept the kid from another man living in his house.
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I didn't think anybody traveled to Colombia or anywhere else for the exclusive purpose of finding a wife in a few short weeks. I guess you haven't been influenced by the MGTOW (men going their own way) movement. jajaja
Best thing you can do is learn Spanish.
Second thing you can do which is a lot easier is read a couple of books to help you get rid of years of indoctrination into the feminist culture of the USA.
https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3COWKA0IZ2GBR&keywords=rational+male&qid=1563579340&s=gateway&sprefix=ratio%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Male-Rollo-Tomassi/dp/1492777862/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3COWKA0IZ2GBR&keywords=rational+male&qid=1563579340&s=gateway&sprefix=ratio%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-1)
I don't know what your track record is for attracting women. But there is only one book and one way I have found to work in Colombia and it is all in this book. Wish I would have it when I was 20 but now that I'm 57 this is the book I would have written to help guys approach women.
https://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty/dp/1463750358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XF6DHFM2ZQNX&keywords=mark+manson+models+attract+women+through+honesty&qid=1563579423&s=gateway&sprefix=attract+women+with+honesty%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty/dp/1463750358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XF6DHFM2ZQNX&keywords=mark+manson+models+attract+women+through+honesty&qid=1563579423&s=gateway&sprefix=attract+women+with+honesty%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1)
After more than 20 years living in and traveling to Colombia there are two very important things I have learned.
Marriage is for procreation and having a family. Do not marry a woman that does not want to have your babies. If you marry a woman with someone else's children then she will be marrying you so you can take care of her and some other guys kids......it can work out if you want to take that on....but why not have your own. If you date a woman with children she is going to make sure you want to take care of her kids....so don't fill shy about making sure a woman wants to have your children before getting too involved. Because if she isn't interested in having a family with you then it is anybody's guess why she would want to marry a guy she won't know every well and leaving her family, friends and everything she has ever known behind. And when you do find out what the reason is.....you very well might not like it much. jajaja
And the second thing I have learned about Colombia is that God wants you to be happy. It doesn't really matter if you believe that....because they do. And that is one big can of worms when you really sit down and think about it. Because someone can justify almost anything with that can of belief system. jajajaja
And that only thing that is going to put belief system in check is her commitment to you and your children. That is why it is very important that you find a Colombiana that wants to have a family with you.
If you don't want a family or aren't ready for a family then just go down to Colombia and enjoy yourself. And if you do get married just to bring her here so you have someone to live with until you are ready.....just know that it will most likely not last. So might as well bring the hottest one you can find. I did that a couple of times....wasn't bad and I don't regret it....but if you are looking for a relationship that will last then take my advice....and marry a Colombiana that wants a family with you.
One last thing....some guys are so out of touch that they some how think that I chick will not respect them or think that they are not serious if they try and sleep with them. I have seen a couple of this types on the board and they were doomed for failure.
There are few things that you can really know about someone on a one or two week trip. But luckily finding out if you are sexually compatible is one if the few things you can know for relative certainty in a couple of weeks. Because if a colombian chick really likes you....she will be sleeping with you every night.
My wife's a lot younger than I and if I die before her, she walks into my pension. If she leaves me, she doesn't get any of it and the amount my monthly pension goes up significantly, effectively a 'single's rate. I am getting less now--> I call it "The pretty young wife penalty."
She's adapted well in the USA and is about at that potentially dangerous point in our lives, where her job is not only good (livable) and promising, but she could probably make enough to 'go it alone.' So in a way, other than for love, she really doesn't need me.
I'm just glad her core values haven't changed drastically. As for her salary, I don't keep track of it. My ongoing positive regard for her family has helped keep us together. She's put her siblings thru university, bought a house 'over there' for us (and this summer added a 2nd story and veranda to it) and her having a house back home was a major life 'bucket list' milestone for her. Same as the love of her family, siblings, nieces and nephews, who will return her love and care for her in her old age. But if I were a prick, she could leave and pretty much make it on her own.
But all the while, she's been overly generous with her earnings towards me. A lot of our house's (still in my name, but if she asked, I'd add her name to deed) monthly utilities she has drafted from her orginal checking account. It took me forever to allow us to co mingle our banking accts. ---she didn't nag me. But 'date nights' out, countless gifts, an almost crazy dedication to my domestic bliss, her just spoiling me rotten, if it ended tomorrow (and I tell myself "Nothing lasts forver") I'd still have to say "WORTH IT, thanks!"
She was ALL about me taking early retirement, taking my pension at 1st chance, not staying on for more $$$. I'm not eligible for social security for a while yet, but while she knows how SS works and there are a few things we don't have that drawing SS at age 62 would get us faster, she insists I do it how I want to.
I'll probably put off collecting SS a good while, as it will increase roughly 8% a year for ea year I put it off. We figured how much I saved--our 'nest egg' and how much cash a month we need to pull from the bank ea month to stay ahead of my pre retirement income. I think we had enough for 25 years, but hey, anybody seen the new mid engine Corvette Chevrolet introduced yesterday?
She thinks I should get one, because:
"You deserve it..."
Up until last year, when I surprised her with new Camry (she insisted on transferring half the purchase price from her checking acct to pay) she was happy driving her 1997 Camry.
I'm not going to get that Vette quite yet, but next month we're off to spend a couple weeks in Michigan w my family, then off to 5 countries and 9 cities in W. Europe. Europe's another 'bucket list' thing for her. She has this "Switzerland bug" lol. So why not throw in London, Paris, Venice, Rome etc?
Then next year, we'll spend a month at our house in the Philippines, surrounded by her family. Our mutual family's support of us and our unified front in how we deal with our family has been a MAJOR binding force for our marital health.
But I could limit potential loss by hurrying up and spending our disposable liquid assets, all by us 'living it up' a bit. And we will 'live it up!"
In short, I'm sorta planning on spending my son's inheritance. They'll be OK--I raised them that way and they were mostly with me from a young age on.
My ex has NEVER dated--not once, no other Male over my sons.
And my wife, wonderful Stepmom to my sons and my ( not so large) money? She says that I should enjoy, spend it now, that "Life is too short", that "It holds no promises" but if I DO leave anything, that I need to be sure my two sons are treated fairly, as she always wants to be 'fair.'
I was married once before, for 14 years to another Filipina who I met here in the USA. She was an orphan--terrible childhood--I was not thinking clearly enough and the eventual wreckage was awful. Money was an awful part of it. I rushed into that storm.
But "All's fair in love and war" and I learned as I went.
And while I feel that to an extent, that you "Make your own luck"-- I know I've been, that I am a lucky guy. Right here and now.
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I guess in a nutshell what you can take away from the long posts is that if she doesn't have love and have allegiance for her family, she's not likely to have that same 'sticktoitiveness' to stay with you, for better or worse.
That said, the two of you should still be a separate unit, unified in agreement on how and when to help (or not help) family. As said, I didn't watch (or need to) my wife helping her family out. But we had a "One shot, one time, deal" where she'd help a sibling get thru college and land a job, but just ONCE. As each member became settled successfully, (independent) they in turn helped other family members do the same, as well as help out my widowed Mother-in-law.
The alternative stereotype of 'Marry the woman, marry the family" where the sucker Kano marries a babe and forever after keeps her family in food, beer, cigarettes and rent DOES happen and causes trouble.
But if the gal you're seriously considering already has a kid/s or perhaps even if she doesn't want to, chances of her strongly bonding with you are lessened.
She's just likely to put the kids 1st.
Worst I've seen (and heard here repeatedly) is the "Little Prince Syndrome" in Colombia, L.A., where a woman has a boy from a previous relationship. You marry her and you will likely always be second banana to a spoiled brat boy.
I have seen guys who tried to raise those little princes right--with discipline, but had their wives promise to reform their child raising ways, but the Mama just wasn't capable of doing so. Constant sort of friction, that really reflected the (not to be spoken, but true) fact that in the 'pecking order', the Step dad would always be second, despite her protestations to the contrary.
They'll let the kid get away with murder, even let him sleep in the same bed, for way longer than they should.
Even my sons, who respect and love my wife, their Stepmother, favor their natural Mother-- that's just pretty much how it's naturally supposed to be.
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Good advice here from alot of experienced guys. I do think the OP shouldn't even be considering bringing a Colombiana to the States. He should learn Spanish have as much fun as possible in Colombia ,and then figure out a way to go expat....
I agree, though at 30 years of age this may not be practical, unless he is in the IT business and can work from home. Even then there are the Colombian Tax implications ( which many ignore).
Though others have brought a woman back to the US, and things went sour and there miraculously was no or little financial implications, there is the risk of having to pay alimony 50% of your net worth increase during the time of the relationship, and paying back any government suport she goes on.
And I personally strongly believe PreNups are useless. Like giving the fox in charge a detailed inventory of the Hen House.
And with Trump in power, the process is even more difficult and the responsibilities more onerous what with the homeland security/ ICE 10 year support commitment you have to sign.
That being said, if the OP wants to have a family with children, there is the moral dilemna of raising them.in Colombia.Eventually, sooner or later you will want to let them have the better opportunities that US citizens have.
If he just wants to import a little " portable R and R" or eye candy then yes, its better just to vacation in Colombia.
Though being 30 years old and depending on his career and flexibility , the expat or frequent visitor option may not be professionally or financially practical for years or decades.
One thing , at 30 years old I would definitely cross single mothers off the list.
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I'm sure there will be plenty of thirsty guys in the US half my age that would think that taking my wife and raising my daughter as their own would be a great way for them to spend the rest of their lives. jajaja But they haven't met me yet. LOL!
I have thought about the talk I would have with a guy that wanted to do that to himself. About how having to deal with me for really the rest of his life would ruin any peace and tranquility he might have ever envisioned for himself.
I'm not above taking the guy out altogether if it came to it. No guy other than me will live with my daughter until she is 18. The only way that my wife could live with someone else is if my daughter lived with me or I'm dead. I don't really think my wife would go down that road because we have already discussed this and she knows I am dead serious.
https://youtu.be/cmAKp1JUhEQ
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I agree, though at 30 years of age this may not be practical, unless he is in the IT business and can work from home. Even then there are the Colombian Tax implications ( which many ignore).
Though others have brought a woman back to the US, and things went sour and there miraculously was no or little financial implications, there is the risk of having to pay alimony 50% of your net worth increase during the time of the relationship, and paying back any government suport she goes on.
And I personally strongly believe PreNups are useless. Like giving the fox in charge a detailed inventory of the Hen House.
And with Trump in power, the process is even more difficult and the responsibilities more onerous what with the homeland security/ ICE 10 year support commitment you have to sign.
That being said, if the OP wants to have a family with children, there is the moral dilemna of raising them.in Colombia.Eventually, sooner or later you will want to let them have the better opportunities that US citizens have.
If he just wants to import a little " portable R and R" or eye candy then yes, its better just to vacation in Colombia.
Though being 30 years old and depending on his career and flexibility , the expat or frequent visitor option may not be professionally or financially practical for years or decades.
One thing , at 30 years old I would definitely cross single mothers off the list.
Yup, good poop above. You bring her to this country, kids or no kids, you could potentially be on a very sharp hook, required to be her financial support after things go bad. For a long time too. While in some states (few) pre nups have some tiny teeth, a prenuptial is more often useless or even will work against you.
Imagine that young little pretty brown eyed senorita in divorce court, crying a river-- hardly able to speak a sentence in English, never mind get and keep a job capable of supporting her at the lifestyle level you're now legally obliged to continue providing her!!
You bastard, the book's already written and it can get thrown at you REALLY hard!
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Thank you very much for all the responses!! Oh wow I have a lot to think about...
I know I am young for this but I have a good career and am in a good spot financially. I am looking for someone I can build my future with and am going into the trip with that intention but not forcing anything and want to see what the experience will be like. I don't plan on going or there is the hottest one come back to the USA with me haha. I do want beauty obviously like everyone else but the vibe has to be right.
How does it work with Jamie's International Introduction when you meet these girls?
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I know I may be coming across as gullible but I am thinking optimistically that I may me someone that I want to take a chance with down there...
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I know I may be coming across as gullible but I am thinking optimistically that I may me someone that I want to take a chance with down there...
When I was thirty, I thought it was 'time' for me to marry. For me, it was very wrong--I wasn't ready and I picked the wrong woman. Take your time, have a lot of fun. Be yourself. It's hard to be yourselves in 'la la land' with resorts, hotels, restaurants, spending money, trying to make a best 1st impression while you're effectively intoxicated in a tropical, hormonally charged environment! Giving things time & making multiple trips has delivered the best results here.
In the big picture I think if you're close to forty y/o when you have kids and about age 60 when they leave the nest and you retire it's a good scenario. Sorta turned out that way for me and importantly I was (am) still able to be physically active w/ my sons (sports etc) and their friends-- even culturally relevant to an extent...
But no matter how rosey you view different scenarios, and being smart and idealistic IS good, rushing is NOT good.
Marriage, if you expect quality, is not some 'Shake n Bake' quickie recipe!
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Thank you very much for all the responses!! Oh wow I have a lot to think about...
I know I am young for this but I have a good career and am in a good spot financially. I am looking for someone I can build my future with and am going into the trip with that intention but not forcing anything and want to see what the experience will be like. I don't plan on going or there is the hottest one come back to the USA with me haha. I do want beauty obviously like everyone else but the vibe has to be right.
How does it work with Jamie's International Introduction when you meet these girls?
I sincerely hope you find what you’re looking for.
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Thank you very much Robert!!! If you could please can you DM me maybe your email or anything that I can message you through. It would be greatly appreciated!
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Already sent you a PM, man. Not sure if you have to make 10 posts b4 you can receive & make PMs or what--some # anyways. We're off to a movie and dinner, catch u on the rebound.
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I think I will have a lot better time looking for my match with choosing to visit the Philippines and understanding their culture. Generally speaking the values and loyalty seem to be much more what I am searching for.
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I think I will have a lot better time looking for my match with choosing to visit the Philippines and understanding their culture. Generally speaking the values and loyalty seem to be much more what I am searching for.
If guys keep coming to this forum for advice we’re gonna have all the Colombianas to ourselves! LMAO!!!
No, but seriously...Jamie’s is a great place to start regardless of where you end up traveling to look for a wife. It sounds like you have a very goal-oriented approach to all this. You want to go somewhere, find a girl to marry you, bring her back to the states, have babies and live happily ever after. Love, romance and marriage don’t work that way though. It’s a process. And even then, sometimes it still doesn’t work at all. I’m assuming you wouldn’t marry a woman here in the states after meeting her once and only spending a few days with her. Don’t do that with a foreign woman for exactly the same reasons. Take your time. Get to know her. Women are very good at being on their best behavior when they first meet you, but the coin can flip easily when she realizes she has the upper hand. It doesn’t matter where the woman is from if she doesn’t really love you.
From what I’ve read in this thread the advice the guys are giving you is pretty universal. It doesn’t matter which country you go to. I will admit that Filipinas might be a little more your speed culturally but the same rules and risks apply. DO NOT BE AFRAID because of what we’re telling you. Before you go skydiving for the first time you take a class. They explain all the risks to you and how to steer clear of the dangers. That’s all that’s going on here. Don’t decide not to jump just because it’s more dangerous than you imagined. Fortune favors the bold and regardless of what’s being said, no man here regrets going to Colombia.
Again, best of luck to you, whatever you decide.
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If guys keep coming to this forum for advice we’re gonna have all the Colombianas to ourselves! LMAO!!!
No, but seriously...Jamie’s is a great place to start regardless of where you end up traveling to look for a wife. It sounds like you have a very goal-oriented approach to all this. You want to go somewhere, find a girl to marry you, bring her back to the states, have babies and live happily ever after. Love, romance and marriage don’t work that way though. It’s a process. And even then, sometimes it still doesn’t work at all. I’m assuming you wouldn’t marry a woman here in the states after meeting her once and only spending a few days with her. Don’t do that with a foreign woman for exactly the same reasons. Take your time. Get to know her. Women are very good at being on their best behavior when they first meet you, but the coin can flip easily when she realizes she has the upper hand. It doesn’t matter where the woman is from if she doesn’t really love you.
From what I’ve read in this thread the advice the guys are giving you is pretty universal. It doesn’t matter which country you go to. I will admit that Filipinas might be a little more your speed culturally but the same rules and risks apply. DO NOT BE AFRAID because of what we’re telling you. Before you go skydiving for the first time you take a class. They explain all the risks to you and how to steer clear of the dangers. That’s all that’s going on here. Don’t decide not to jump just because it’s more dangerous than you imagined. Fortune favors the bold and regardless of what’s being said, no man here regrets going to Colombia.
Again, best of luck to you, whatever you decide.
The same risks exist in bringing a Filipina here for marriage as bringing a Colombiana. Very true...
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Thank you very much Robert!!! If you could please can you DM me maybe your email or anything that I can message you through. It would be greatly appreciated!
LOL--Paul---Here's a copy what I tried sending to you in PM about 4 hours ago.
I'm trying not to pitch too hard for Filipinas in the Latin Forum!
>>>Howdy Paul,
Did you ever consider Asia--The Philippines? I dated plenty of Latinas and three of my Uncles were married to such, so I grew up a bit around their 'kisses and hand grenades' marriages. They treated me royally and for my Uncles, when it was good, it was great and when it was bad, it was awful.
I prefer a bit more 'In the middle' of all that...
Filipinas have all kinds of looks --from pure white Spaniard "Paisa," look, w/ milky colored skin, to morenas, to chinky Chinese looking. There's slinky slim, to full figured. Most Latinas--as w/ most women, tend to 'chunk out' more by age 30.
And a whole lot of Filipinas like Colombianas, not only view intimacy not just as a given obligation, but as something they love.
If you're lucky enough to meet a gal's Mom--that (as well as meeting her Dad/family/friends) that can tell you a lot about her now, as well as possibly down the road, as she matures.
There's no crystal ball, but if she has her head and value system screwed down pretty tight now, your odds are better later.
Evaluate people on what they ARE now, not on perceived 'potential'
The 'tens' the stunners, have no problem attracting suitors, so get in line if you dare....
Either way, they look great by our side.
But more often than not, re. the Filipinas I think they don't tend to have all the dramas, the generations of dysfunctional family dynamics--incest, substance abuse, of being demeaned and beaten down by life as women from Latin A. nations might--not to say the Philippines isn't largely poor and at all immune from the 'damaged goods' women issue....but I'd guess that they don't tend to follow/copy the 'male bad dog side' --probably not as prone to (culturally) fooling around behind their husband's backs like the guys in the Philippines and Colombia do to the women.
There's plenty of horny women and 'fooling around' everywhere---but I don't think there's as much 'tit for tat' -- revenge or lust run amuck in some cultures as in others....
If I were in your shoes, I'd hella sure still go down to Mexico, Colombia, Brazil, Chile, Ecuador and more--and you can initially explore from home 1st--but having done that and 'had my fun' I'd then rethink long and hard about exactly what kind of woman I (hopefully) want to come home to each night to...
Now--that's just me----I'd just need a whip and a chair to macho maintain my alpha status with 'most' Colombianas and that's too much effort for my lazy bones--my Filipina wife always makes it known that I'm 'THE man'-- I think most guys get to a point in life before too long where good loving and less drama is the 'sweet spot'
I mean, yes, they're hotter than hell--by all means have a look and there's always diamonds in the rough (IF you do a lot of digging), but be careful about what you wish for.
Perhaps the best marriage on P.L. belongs to a swell guy named "Whitey" --a great guy who my wife and I visited with in Ontario. He stopped posting here a while back and is married to a super lovely (inside and out) lady from Barranquilla--Nazly. She's had some employability challenges due to the extreme difficulty many Colombians experience in trying to become proficient in English. My wife had similar, but not as pronounced issues, but taking classes and a number of years here helped. While Nazly doesn't HAVE to work, she wants to. (and does) Some guys here only speak Spanish with their wives. YMMV. But they're nonetheless a super duper couple!
Then again, some guys DO love the dynamics that I don't. Some of the horn dogs here just seem to love the 'fight and then make up sex' dynamic--the highs balance out their lows, I guess.
But women are women, with variables all over the chart in every place and way, so here or there, again--your mileage may vary.
So try and figure out WHAT you want from a woman and relationship (homemaker, English fluent, education level, employable, personality type?) decide which of those characteristics ARE DEAL BREAKERS, and which you can be more flexible on. And look out for RED FLAGS, such as being unstable, unrealistic, overly needy, money grubbing gold digger, psycho, bi polar etc.
Of course you have to date and sample the populations before you can make an intelligent decision.
But that oughta be FUN!
Bet we are, but hope we're not totally over loading you--don't worry about replying--we'll probably be here when you need us!
Best to ya,
Rob<<<
Really I feel that there are GREAT, ultra satisfying women all OVER the planet--In all sizes, shapes and colors. It's just hard to sort em out, figuring what best suits our temperament.
Even IF the old saying: "So many women, so little time" still applies!
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Here's what I'm talking about from a few moments ago....I have a lot of difficulty loading pics!
I'm starting to think she likes me!!
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Yes absolutely cross single mothers off the list at Jamies no matter how hot they are. There are plenty of other young beautiful chicas to choose from. If you meet one on this trip that really floats your boat then plan on making repeated trips to Colombia within the next six months to visit with her, meet her family and take her places the two of you enjoy. It may be cumbersome, costly and a problem for you at work but it's really the only way to go if you're actually looking for a wife. If you just want recreation then skip everything I said above and just enjoy.
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Yes absolutely cross single mothers off the list at Jamies no matter how hot they are. There are plenty of other young beautiful chicas to choose from. If you meet one on this trip that really floats your boat then plan on making repeated trips to Colombia within the next six months to visit with her, meet her family and take her places the two of you enjoy. It may be cumbersome, costly and a problem for you at work but it's really the only way to go if you're actually looking for a wife. If you just want recreation then skip everything I said above and just enjoy.
We're wasting our breath. He's already moved on from Colombia to the PI due to Rob lol...can't say I blame him, Rob does seem to have the perfect wife...
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Thanks I missed that. Well may his search bear fruit. For me there is no ethnicity world wide that floats my boat more than the chicas "indias" of Colombia.
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I am starting to think that I will have a much better experience and hopefully find what I am looking for by searching more through the Philippines culture and from Filipino women.
Is there any service or agency that is highly recommended like Jamie's International Introductions for the Philippines and finding Filipino women.
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I am starting to think that I will have a much better experience and hopefully find what I am looking for by searching more through the Philippines culture and from Filipino women.
Is there any service or agency that is highly recommended like Jamie's International Introductions for the Philippines and finding Filipino women.
Filipinas are for guys over 80.
Go to Colombia but take your time and have fun.
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I am starting to think that I will have a much better experience and hopefully find what I am looking for by searching more through the Philippines culture and from Filipino women.
I have always been attracted to Filipinas. That said, Colombia is loaded with hot women and nothing floats my boat quite like a hot Latina. To each their own. One thing to consider:
-Distance: Colombia is a much shorter plane ride from the USA (which is where I assume you live). Easier to fly back and forth multiple times. The Phillipines is a long trek.
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I have always been attracted to Filipinas. That said, Colombia is loaded with hot women and nothing floats my boat quite like a hot Latina. To each their own. One thing to consider:
-Distance: Colombia is a much shorter plane ride from the USA (which is where I assume you live). Easier to fly back and forth multiple times. The Phillipines is a long trek.
Not to mention travel costs. Using the Hopper app, my last two flights to Barranquilla (both this year) were both under $550. My father just married a woman from the Philippines (he is 67, his new wife is 32) and the least he has paid is $800 to get back over there. It adds up fast for a man trying to court a woman overseas.
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Not to mention travel costs. Using the Hopper app, my last two flights to Barranquilla (both this year) were both under $550. My father just married a woman from the Philippines (he is 67, his new wife is 32) and the least he has paid is $800 to get back over there. It adds up fast for a man trying to court a woman overseas.
Sounds like your pops is living large with such a young wife. He will have plenty of haters in the US I am sure. but he must be pretty secure in himself to have a wife so much younger...
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Sounds like your pops is living large with such a young wife. He will have plenty of haters in the US I am sure. but he must be pretty secure in himself to have a wife so much younger...
I have a 3 year old and a 5 day old sisters. Pretty sure her having the 1st daughter is the only reason he brought her here.
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Filipinas are for guys over 80.
Go to Colombia but take your time and have fun.
I'm afraid that some guys would be malcontents at any age, in any nation.
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Not to mention travel costs. Using the Hopper app, my last two flights to Barranquilla (both this year) were both under $550. My father just married a woman from the Philippines (he is 67, his new wife is 32) and the least he has paid is $800 to get back over there. It adds up fast for a man trying to court a woman overseas.
If the travel cost doesn't kill you, the amount of time in the air, combined with all the points you have to stop and transfer -- all that hassle, does.
Thirty, even 40 hours just from the USA's east coast to Manila, isn't unusual.
Then our house is 7000 islands south of Manila and has a 360 degree different vibe than Manila's. That's two or three more hours flight away and maybe a change from international luggage allowance to domestic.
I think our record time in flight to and fro is 25 hours. (East coast)
The average USA visitors demographic is all over. With arguably the worlds best surfing beaches, over a 100 million mostly young, happy Filipinos, you see a LOT of young people flocking there from all over.
Hippie, Zen minded surfers, moneyed 'trustifarians' jet setters, guys living decently just off their USA Social Security income and folks like Bill Gates and his family, all love it there.
It's almost weird how damn happy people are there. Social and friendly. Time is different too. It's hard to describe.
They have cities and resorts with Five Star sophistication (and prices) but the essence, the heart of the people, is elsewhere--amongst the 7000+ islands apart from the islands of Luzon (Manila/Angeles City) and Cebu (Cebu City).
But to visit and stay a while with the 'regular folks' gives me a major transfusion of "Be Positive" blood.
All the stuff that seems to matter so much in the USA sort of fades away. While I do come back and appreciate life in the USA more, (bacon cheese burger, STAT!) I again just can't wrap my head around exactly why they're so damn happy, nice and real over there.
It doesn't hurt that a walk around, never mind a trip to the mall (whoah) has beautiful babes checking you out, their bright white smiles, morena skin and eyes like sparkling black diamonds.
But yeah, getting there sure is a bitch!
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Not to mention travel costs. Using the Hopper app, my last two flights to Barranquilla (both this year) were both under $550. My father just married a woman from the Philippines (he is 67, his new wife is 32) and the least he has paid is $800 to get back over there. It adds up fast for a man trying to court a woman overseas.
Like Mambo said, kudos to your dad with the 35 year age gap with his filipina wife! I love Latinas but Filipina and Thai women are also really hot in my book.
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I am starting to think that I will have a much better experience and hopefully find what I am looking for by searching more through the Philippines culture and from Filipino women.
Is there any service or agency that is highly recommended like Jamie's International Introductions for the Philippines and finding Filipino women.
If I were you at your age, I would still go to Colombia too. Perhaps for 2 or 3 weeks+ and if and when you (hopefully) visit the Philippines, for at least three weeks.
Easy to say--in our rat race world, not enough people, especially people of prime working age, have much time.
I think in France, everyone has six weeks off by law. Police sometimes stand outside work entrances to make sure people/companies, don't break the law by 'taking work home.'
Anywhere you go, try and cultivate relationships with a number of actual people you can meet face to face with first.
Hate to admit it, but even when I had a pretty clear "Woman #1", I still had pics, profiles and phone numbers of other women, "just in case."
And never mind how expensive and how many hours the flights took (and I was raising two active young sons on a rather modest income) I made (long/expensive) multiple trips, most unsuccessful.
That was before finally realizing that one lady I left behind on line--we'd never physically met yet, despite daily contact, was still there for me--a good friend and that she was THE one, I finally figured---MY wife today.
And it was terribly nice of Mambo to point out my wife sounds kinda perfect. She'd cringe at the compliment, but honestly for who and what she is, she's practically perfect for me in this crazy internet/materialism/fashion obsessed world, she's got balance.
But never mind all those bolocks, what's really important is that she pretends that I'M almost perfect!!!
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Like Mambo said, kudos to your dad with the 35 year age gap with his filipina wife! I love Latinas but Filipina and Thai women are also really hot in my book.
+1 to that!
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I am absolutely going to Colombia within the next 6 months. Looking forward to meeting the girls Jamie will introduce me to.
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I am absolutely going to Colombia within the next 6 months. Looking forward to meeting the girls Jamie will introduce me to.
Atta Boy----BATTER UP!!!
This will make me look like a dated dinosaur (and I never had to pay for sex) but this tune resonates in my travel philosophy!!
https://youtu.be/q7qWy7rFjcY
At age 30, the world's your fecking oyster Paul. Why not have a dozen?
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I am absolutely going to Colombia within the next 6 months. Looking forward to meeting the girls Jamie will introduce me to.
Time to start in on Spanish!
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I am absolutely going to Colombia within the next 6 months. Looking forward to meeting the girls Jamie will introduce me to.
As Mambocowby suggested, start working on your Spanish. Yes, Jamie will provide translation services. But you will be much better off in terms of making decisions and interacting with women down there if you have some Spanish under your belt.
A clear advantage of the Phillipines is how widespread English is there. Not the case in Colombia.
It takes 10 posts for you to PM somebody. You are almost there.
Good luck!
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As Mambocowby suggested, start working on your Spanish. Yes, Jamie will provide translation services. But you will be much better off in terms of making decisions and interacting with women...
Good luck!
How quickly you can pick Spanish up can’t be stressed enough. You’ll obviously need translators during your first go at it and they are an invaluable resource. Not only are they translating what you and your date are saying to each other, but they’re women who know how to read the subtle nonverbal cues of other women. Usually they can very quickly ascertain whether a girl is truly interested in you. Younger Colombianas WILL NOT outright reject you to your face. The honest ones will just ghost you. The dishonest ones might use you for a few free meals at a restaurant and ask for financial favors before you realize she has no romantic interest.
If and when you do find a Colombiana that’s genuinely interested, communication will be key. You both need to get a good understanding of the types of people you are and your expectations with respect to relationships, marriage and children. These types of conversations can get extremely uncomfortable when a 3rd party is involved. Then there’s also the romance factor...I mean, how intimate can you get with a girl when there’s always another one there that knows everything both of you are saying to each other? That is unless they’re into each other.... 8)
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Make sure you check out thier facebook ptofiles
This chick has one photo that says having a good time with my sugar and another photo with her true love jajaja
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Make sure you check out thier facebook ptofiles
This chick has one photo that says having a good time with my sugar and another photo with her true love jajaja
One for the money and one for the honey.
This one was just dumb enough to leave herself open enough to being caught.
I'm pretty sure most are smarter than that. Given time, such behavior (which never goes away) is caught, but if you've invested months, even years before catching on, it really sucks.
Something to think about if you think you've found 'the one' and you go months at a time, working your 9 to 5 in your country between physical visitations, while she does her 'thing/s' back in her country.
Do you think that this is common, the norm or unusual?
F. that old saying: "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" ---Safer to assume that:
"Absence makes the heart go WANDER"
The tattoos alone would keep me away!
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How good is "Google Translate " using a smart phone?
A while back I recall it being slow, clunky, not that accurate, certainly lacking the ability to grasp the nuances certain word combinations are meant to convey.
Is it even good in a pinch? I cringe just imagining me in some mildly noisy restaurant, fiddling with my damn phone, trying to converse at a decent speed, instead of making eye contact and putting my hands to better use...
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How good is "Google Translate " using a smart phone?
A while back I recall it being slow, clunky, not that accurate, certainly lacking the ability to grasp the nuances certain word combinations are meant to convey.
Is it even good in a pinch? I cringe just imagining me in some mildly noisy restaurant, fiddling with my damn phone, trying to converse at a decent speed, instead of making eye contact and putting my hands to better use...
It gets the job done for simple request like telling a taxi driver where you need to go or ordering food at a restaurant, but for common parlance I wouldn’t bother. There are too many little quirks between Spanish (especially Costeño) and English where something we say or write one way gets completely misunderstood on their end. I can think of 50 examples off the top of my head. In Spanish you don’t wear clothes, you carry them. Same idea is applied to someone taking you somewhere in a car or truck. You’re being carried. You don’t “like” something in Spanish. It pleases you. The term “tener que” means “have to,” but in Colombia it’s much more common for natives to use tocarse, which literally means to it touches. There’s a verb in Spanish for “to drink,” but Colombians most often use “tomar,” which literally means “to take.”
After learning Portuguese I hired a speech coach because the accent in Rio involves a lot of gutural, throat and nasal sounds native English speakers have a VERY hard time with. I will never forget her telling me that there are three levels of fluency when learning a foreign language. A language becoming natural, where it second nature and you’re not translating in your own head is just the first step. After that is being able to listen to the language, in the majority of accents and dialects and still understand a person. If you teach a native Spanish speaker American English, they will understand you, but would be completely clueless with someone from Jamaica for example. That level of fluency takes more time and a lot of interaction with native speakers.
The third and most difficult level of fluency is understanding intent. All languages have their own little nuances that only native speakers are familiar with. Just because you understand the words doesn’t mean you understand the message. This level has a lot to do with nonverbal cues like hand gestures and facial expressions. And again, it takes years of immersion to achieve.
I say all that to say this: after 11 years of listening to Costeño Spanish, I’m still on level 1. Google Translate? Fuhgettaboutit!!!!
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One for the money and one for the honey.
This one was just dumb enough to leave herself open enough to being caught.
I'm pretty sure most are smarter than that. Given time, such behavior (which never goes away) is caught, but if you've invested months, even years before catching on, it really sucks.
Something to think about if you think you've found 'the one' and you go months at a time, working your 9 to 5 in your country between physical visitations, while she does her 'thing/s' back in her country.
Do you think that this is common, the norm or unusual?
F. that old saying: "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" ---Safer to assume that:
"Absence makes the heart go WANDER"
The tattoos alone would keep me away!
I think ot is unudual to find one that will put her lover and suger daddy on the same facebook page. She is obviously open and I guess you could say honest about what she is doing
I think most Colombian women look at the whole package when it comes to men ...looks...money ....and commitment.
Whit looks coming in second or last
Almost never will you see and extremely attractive woman here with a guy that is as good looking as she is pretty
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Almost never will you see and extremely attractive woman here with a guy that is as good looking as she is pretty
OMG someone should print this on a gotdamn T-Shirt. I don’t think I’ve ever read anything on this board about Colombianas that’s more universally true. As a matter of fact, the prettier girls are the more unrealistic the couple seems. I follow quite a few Colombian Models on Instagram and those over 25 all date older guys and they have no issues showing them off. The girls that are a little younger sometimes have really good looking boyfriends, but it’s a different guy every couple of months.
It’s something I kind of respect about them though. They have bad experiences with certain types of men, then rather than bitch and whine about it and say all men are the same (what so many American Women do) they start going for the complete opposite.
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Speaking of appearance discrepancy here we have El Lobo who ran a brutal "oficina" (murder for hire) in Cali and the model who was his girlfriend. The second photo taken before she was found dead in a roadside ditch on the road to Palmira. He had speak through a hole in his neck having been shot once.
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Make sure you check out thier facebook ptofiles
This chick has one photo that says having a good time with my sugar and another photo with her true love jajaja
I guess some Colombians whether 19 or 60 dont care much if they are Cucks!!
Most girls at least have the sense to put themselves sola in facebook. I guess she doesnt care and neither do either of the guys.
Maybe they are fathers and son.That wiuld make them Eskimo brothers and fathers and son. Sounds incestuos.
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One for the money and one for the honey.
This one was just dumb enough to leave herself open enough to being caught.
I'm pretty sure most are smarter than that. Given time, such behavior (which never goes away) is caught, but if you've invested months, even years before catching on, it really sucks.
Something to think about if you think you've found 'the one' and you go months at a time, working your 9 to 5 in your country between physical visitations, while she does her 'thing/s' back in her country.
Do you think that this is common, the norm or unusual?
F. that old saying: "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" ---Safer to assume that:
"Absence makes the heart go WANDER"
The tattoos alone would keep me away!
A lot of Colombians dont care. Especially in the case of a young poor barrio boy. Aa a mattter of fact, he could be almost like her pimp.More money for him.
Remember this hot looking Colombiana in the lobby of my apartment couple years back with a short wimpy looking guy next to her.
I asked the vigilante who she was."A prepago" he said. I asked who the guy was her gay friend? "Nope, her husband".
In regards to lng distance reations, Comombians have a saying:
"Relacion de lejos es feliz para cuatro"
Or "Relacion de lejos es una relacion de pendejos"
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I guess some Colombians whether 19 or 60 dont care much if they are Cucks!!
I guess they find it hard to complain when they are gerting laid everyday.
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As the newbie who started this thread (read 664 times--maybe the guy dropped out after 9 little posts) was supposedly considering both Colombia and the Philippines, he and readers in general should know single mothers do not fare well in either place.
No guy there wants to have anything serious to do with a woman who had a child by some other guy. Hell, a lot don't want anything to do with kids they fathered, never mind a 'package deal.'
But a single woman with child is pretty much an 'untouchable' to local guys, who for sure aren't bringing them home to 'meet the family.'
A gringo/kano comes in with a different mindset and there are some really hot looking women w kids he can easily snag.
Some are probably decent women, most have problems, but that untouchable stigma affects them for the rest of their lives.
Used to be that city or province, educated or not, single mothers aged 18 to 45 with children, routinely put "18 to 80 years old" to indicate what age range they'd happily accept. With time they're increasingly targeting foreigners much closer to their age.
Also the girls/women, especially those from outside the big cities, now instead of eating local crops, eat a lot of fat laden western style fast food, like KFC, Krispy Kreme etc. Seems there's a lot less fit females around than there were 10 years ago--and a lot are chubby by age 20.
Sounds pretty sick, but you're basically going after their society's scraps if you're considering most women who have kids out of wedlock overseas.
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As the newbie who started this thread (read 664 times--maybe the guy dropped out after 9 little posts) was supposedly considering both Colombia and the Philippines, he and readers in general should know single mothers do not fare well in either place.
No guy there wants to have anything serious to do with a woman who had a child by some other guy. Hell, a lot don't want anything to do with kids they fathered, never mind a 'package deal.'
But a single woman with child is pretty much an 'untouchable' to local guys, who for sure aren't bringing them home to 'meet the family.'
A gringo/kano comes in with a different mindset and there are some really hot looking women w kids he can easily snag.
Some are probably decent women, most have problems, but that untouchable stigma affects them for the rest of their lives.
Used to be that city or province, educated or not, single mothers aged 18 to 45 with children, routinely put "18 to 80 years old" to indicate what age range they'd happily accept. With time they're increasingly targeting foreigners much closer to their age.
Also the girls/women, especially those from outside the big cities, now instead of eating local crops, eat a lot of fat laden western style fast food, like KFC, Krispy Kreme etc. Seems there's a lot less fit females around than there were 10 years ago--and a lot are chubby by age 20.
Sounds pretty sick, but you're basically going after their society's scraps if you're considering most women who have kids out of wedlock overseas.
I don’t know what you are talking about.
The USA is MILF heaven....I can’t tell you how many guys I know in the US that are living with or married to a woman and taking care of children that aren’t his own.
And a lot of times while collecting child support from the biological father.
I have a friend that met a chick on plenty of fish....she had two children....on welfare and collecting child support. Well you guessed it. She told him that she was on the pill....what a lie.....he got her pregnant and now she has 3 guys on the hook for child support. Plus she gets welfare and now she has a boyfriend that is living with her.
She didn’t want my friend around .....the father of her last child so she said he threaten her and got a restraining order against him. But she tells him he can come over and visit his own son if he pays her 150 bucks. And he has done it. She is truly evil.
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I don’t know what you are talking about.
The USA is MILF heaven....I can’t tell you how many guys I know in the US that are living with or married to a woman and taking care of children that aren’t his own.
And a lot of times while collecting child support from the biological father.
I have a friend that met a chick on plenty of fish....she had two children....on welfare and collecting child support. Well you guessed it. She told him that she was on the pill....what a lie.....he got her pregnant and now she has 3 guys on the hook for child support. Plus she gets welfare and now she has a boyfriend that is living with her.
She didn’t want my friend around .....the father of her last child so she said he threaten her and got a restraining order against him. But she tells him he can come over and visit his own son if he pays her 150 bucks. And he has done it. She is truly evil.
As the newbie who started this thread (read 664 times--maybe the guy dropped out after 9 little posts) was supposedly considering both Colombia and the Philippines, he and readers in general should know single mothers do not fare well in either place.
No guy there wants to have anything serious to do with a woman who had a child by some other guy. Hell, a lot don't want anything to do with kids they fathered, never mind a 'package deal.'
But a single woman with child is pretty much an 'untouchable' to local guys, who for sure aren't bringing them home to 'meet the family.'
A gringo/kano comes in with a different mindset and there are some really hot looking women w kids he can easily snag.
Some are probably decent women, most have problems, but that untouchable stigma affects them for the rest of their lives.
Used to be that city or province, educated or not, single mothers aged 18 to 45 with children, routinely put "18 to 80 years old" to indicate what age range they'd happily accept. With time they're increasingly targeting foreigners much closer to their age.
Also the girls/women, especially those from outside the big cities, now instead of eating local crops, eat a lot of fat laden western style fast food, like KFC, Krispy Kreme etc. Seems there's a lot less fit females around than there were 10 years ago--and a lot are chubby by age 20.
Sounds pretty sick, but you're basically going after their society's scraps if you're considering most women who have kids out of wedlock overseas.
Maybe I was unclear, maybe you read too fast, misinterpreted--I dunno.
My primary subject in the above post is namely women overseas, their profiles and how things have changed therein. Not women in the USA.
Between women getting fatter at a younger age, being able to exploit social media from a phone rather than just an internet cafe computer, the game has changed.
Doesn't sound like your friend found "milf heaven"--quite the contrary. Maybe you typed it too fast like I do and didn't notice it seems contradictory.
Again my post referred by far more to women abroad.
I see that whereas in the past women almost always chose a male mate who was the same age or a few years older, women --- increasingly fatter women increasingly want a guy their age or younger. Hopefully with more money too.
That said, I'd venture a guess that most guys feel that most "milfs" in the USA are fatter than ever, they often are dysfunctional, damaged goods and that they feel entitled to better treatment than they deserve. Many act like it's a damn privilege for a guy to date them and that he damn well should pay.
You say:
"The USA is MILF heaven....I can’t tell you how many guys I know in the US that are living with or married to a woman and taking care of children that aren’t his own."
I don't see that. I don't see guys excited about marrying women with some other guy's kids--living with and caring for kids that aren't his own. Sure it happens, but it's not common and certainly not optimal for most guys.
I see guys who want to BANG those sexy hot milfs, 'hit and run'--at most maybe 'friends with benefits' but not many want to become husband and 'instant father' to a milf with some other guy's kids. I think you've said the same yourself in the past.
Noble? Yes, probably, but I think most guys see the really sexy milfs and again are more interested in banging them than they are interested in marrying them and assuming the expense, aggravation and time caring for some other guy's kids.
I mean come'on--I hit the mall or grocery store and see some sexy milf and a little voice in my head goes: "Hot damn, she looks GOOD for her age and I'll bet she's not only got experience, but she's likely got some moves that'd rock MY world." Hot flash in the frozen food isle, LOL----One time, "Motel No Tell" opportunity.
(Happens more in fresh produce and the international foods isle actually)
Yesterday I saw a HOT Colombiana (Medillin--I asked) at a thrift store, in line behind me with her school age kid. There was a pretty little Italian 14K white gold cross with brilliant cut VS2 grade inset diamonds--all on a 14K chain--new in box, with an insurance estimate from the fine jewelry store it was purchased for $1200. They were asking $125 and me being me, they said "For you--$100. It's very classy yet modest--just like my wife--I got it, saying (and this is worth a trillion dollars)
"Baby cakes--if you don't want it--maybe your Mom will--or we can save it as wedding gift when one of your sisters eventually gets married"
The only thing that makes her happier than receiving something nice is being able to share it with her family
My wife's very modest and I was worried that it might be too 'blingy'--so I asked the chica: "What do you think? --too much--too busy--too blingy?--my wife's petite--I should send her a pic, no?"--I even showed her my screen lock pic of my lovely wife on my phone as I took a pic....
She looked at me, fluttering her long lashes, grabbed my arm, squeezed it and said:
"I wish MY husband was like YOU"
And it wasn't just the diamonds--it was because I was thoughtful and kind. As if someone else was 'taking her for granted' and she wanted some 'spark' back in her young life in this (to her), foreign country.
And like a shark senses blood in the water, I realized this hot babe in the yoga tights seemed a bit sad, and that when her kid was in school, her husband at work--basically from 8 to 4:00--she was game.
Lead us not to temptation--Hell, no need--I do a good enough job myself obviously, but l am pretty damn sure I had her--that saying "Oh--that's too bad--why don't we grab lunch sometime?--just text me" and that the already real sparks could've gotten hotter.
But she was a milf and I don't need to fool around--even the Colombiana said "Ooohh she's gorgeous' and besides My wife never ever holds out on me.
"A man's GOT to know his limits"
Again, marrying a woman--even just living or even hitting up a woman who has kids in house from a previous relationship/s--it' may be noble--and it's probably what a few special guys would find rewarding, but it's far from the norm.
I changed my own mind about that subject. I was serious with a woman who had a son the same age as my youngest son--3rd grade. I figured it would work out--that they'd be 'brothers'--and he was a nice kid. But she had problems that TIME and a couple 11,000 mile ea way trips, that a lot of time and money later, made me said "NO."
I now realize it wasn't a good idea for me even if the woman had been right for me.
But that's just me.
We've seen countless posts here bemoaning how much worse dating in the USA has become, how by the time women get around age 30 the best ones are pretty much married off, the remainder, especially as they get older, feel increasingly empowered/entitled, yet act embittered.
So as a woman gets older, the problem often gets worse as they tend to paint the other sex increasingly worse and treat them accordingly.
Same dynamic seems to occur with some guys on this site who live in places abroad where guys have a much better 'hand to play' ---a lot more pretty, available younger and older women but yet they piss and moan about the sorry pool of women there.
Since I'm taking my post from it's original intention of referencing foreign women VS domestic, I'll now go so far as to say it's not just women abroad who are getting fatter and manipulative, but that right here in the USA, we're seeing increasingly the same.
Maybe you've never used a matching site in the USA, ie match.com, the dismal plenty of fish, iharmony etc.--- but most guys who have, would probably agree that especially on the sites, there's an unprecedented number of women who are damaged goods like the woman you described.
Yes it's changing abroad, with easy access to technology and as I said above, I think the % of healthy, shapely women is declining with dietary changes as they angle for younger guys with thicker wallets
Between the internet, the way guys and gals treat each other in increasingly sh!tty ways, the more available junk/fast food and lack of exercise making already lazy people, even more rotund, the 'dating pool' appears to need some strong chlorine.
I don't see it happening.
My wife's sister is on some dating sites --she's beautiful, fun, easy going, like my wife she's humble, God fearing--- yet never holds her faith over anyone's head. She's mid 20's, a top tier rank RN in cosmopolitan Dubai, working in the royal family's own hospital--they only hire the best nurses.
We monitor and guide her--unless you have a VPN, Dubai has all kinds of clunky internet blocks. Her profile is sooo inviting, with none of the bragging I just did--she's humble, simple and sweet. Guess what? Almost NO bites and those few who do bite are typically pervs.
There's always been games like that online but it's worse than ever.
But here and there, women--be it technology, diet or just not having or having lost their value system, it's getting worse
We live in a world today where we increasingly see girls/women casually 'playing ' multiple guys on line simultaneously, while they're just getting fatter, jaded 'monkey branching' and treating guys with less affection and respect--it's not lessening.
I think most guys here would say "Me too!"
Damn, this was a long post--I am successfully procrastinating--putting off cutting the damn lawn!!!!
My wife keeps saying: "Let me pay for a lawn and garden service to do that, so you don't have to--it's too hot"--maybe she's right! Maybe next year....
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I don’t know what you are talking about.
The USA is MILF heaven....I can’t tell you how many guys I know in the US that are living with or married to a woman and taking care of children that aren’t his own.
And a lot of times while collecting child support from the biological father.
I have a friend that met a chick on plenty of fish....she had two children....on welfare and collecting child support. Well you guessed it. She told him that she was on the pill....what a lie.....he got her pregnant and now she has 3 guys on the hook for child support. Plus she gets welfare and now she has a boyfriend that is living with her.
She didn’t want my friend around .....the father of her last child so she said he threaten her and got a restraining order against him. But she tells him he can come over and visit his own son if he pays her 150 bucks. And he has done it. She is truly evil.
Talk about the wrong side of the tracks...
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Maybe I was unclear, maybe you read too fast, misinterpreted--I dunno.
My primary subject in the above post is namely women overseas, their profiles and how things have changed therein. Not women in the USA.
Between women getting fatter at a younger age, being able to exploit social media from a phone rather than just an internet cafe computer, the game has changed.
Doesn't sound like your friend found "milf heaven"--quite the contrary. Maybe you typed it too fast like I do and didn't notice it seems contradictory.
Again my post referred by far more to women abroad.
I see that whereas in the past women almost always chose a male mate who was the same age or a few years older, women --- increasingly fatter women increasingly want a guy their age or younger. Hopefully with more money too.
That said, I'd venture a guess that most guys feel that most "milfs" in the USA are fatter than ever, they often are dysfunctional, damaged goods and that they feel entitled to better treatment than they deserve. Many act like it's a damn privilege for a guy to date them and that he damn well should pay.
You say:
"The USA is MILF heaven....I can’t tell you how many guys I know in the US that are living with or married to a woman and taking care of children that aren’t his own."
I don't see that. I don't see guys excited about marrying women with some other guy's kids--living with and caring for kids that aren't his own. Sure it happens, but it's not common and certainly not optimal for most guys.
I see guys who want to BANG those sexy hot milfs, 'hit and run'--at most maybe 'friends with benefits' but not many want to become husband and 'instant father' to a milf with some other guy's kids. I think you've said the same yourself in the past.
Noble? Yes, probably, but I think most guys see the really sexy milfs and again are more interested in banging them than they are interested in marrying them and assuming the expense, aggravation and time caring for some other guy's kids.
I mean come'on--I hit the mall or grocery store and see some sexy milf and a little voice in my head goes: "Hot damn, she looks GOOD for her age and I'll bet she's not only got experience, but she's likely got some moves that'd rock MY world." Hot flash in the frozen food isle, LOL----One time, "Motel No Tell" opportunity.
(Happens more in fresh produce and the international foods isle actually)
Yesterday I saw a HOT Colombiana (Medillin--I asked) at a thrift store, in line behind me with her school age kid. There was a pretty little Italian 14K white gold cross with brilliant cut VS2 grade inset diamonds--all on a 14K chain--new in box, with an insurance estimate from the fine jewelry store it was purchased for $1200. They were asking $125 and me being me, they said "For you--$100. It's very classy yet modest--just like my wife--I got it, saying (and this is worth a trillion dollars)
"Baby cakes--if you don't want it--maybe your Mom will--or we can save it as wedding gift when one of your sisters eventually gets married"
The only thing that makes her happier than receiving something nice is being able to share it with her family
My wife's very modest and I was worried that it might be too 'blingy'--so I asked the chica: "What do you think? --too much--too busy--too blingy?--my wife's petite--I should send her a pic, no?"--I even showed her my screen lock pic of my lovely wife on my phone as I took a pic....
She looked at me, fluttering her long lashes, grabbed my arm, squeezed it and said:
"I wish MY husband was like YOU"
And it wasn't just the diamonds--it was because I was thoughtful and kind. As if someone else was 'taking her for granted' and she wanted some 'spark' back in her young life in this (to her), foreign country.
And like a shark senses blood in the water, I realized this hot babe in the yoga tights seemed a bit sad, and that when her kid was in school, her husband at work--basically from 8 to 4:00--she was game.
Lead us not to temptation--Hell, no need--I do a good enough job myself obviously, but l am pretty damn sure I had her--that saying "Oh--that's too bad--why don't we grab lunch sometime?--just text me" and that the already real sparks could've gotten hotter.
But she was a milf and I don't need to fool around--even the Colombiana said "Ooohh she's gorgeous' and besides My wife never ever holds out on me.
"A man's GOT to know his limits"
Again, marrying a woman--even just living or even hitting up a woman who has kids in house from a previous relationship/s--it' may be noble--and it's probably what a few special guys would find rewarding, but it's far from the norm.
I changed my own mind about that subject. I was serious with a woman who had a son the same age as my youngest son--3rd grade. I figured it would work out--that they'd be 'brothers'--and he was a nice kid. But she had problems that TIME and a couple 11,000 mile ea way trips, that a lot of time and money later, made me said "NO."
I now realize it wasn't a good idea for me even if the woman had been right for me.
But that's just me.
We've seen countless posts here bemoaning how much worse dating in the USA has become, how by the time women get around age 30 the best ones are pretty much married off, the remainder, especially as they get older, feel increasingly empowered/entitled, yet act embittered.
So as a woman gets older, the problem often gets worse as they tend to paint the other sex increasingly worse and treat them accordingly.
Same dynamic seems to occur with some guys on this site who live in places abroad where guys have a much better 'hand to play' ---a lot more pretty, available younger and older women but yet they piss and moan about the sorry pool of women there.
Since I'm taking my post from it's original intention of referencing foreign women VS domestic, I'll now go so far as to say it's not just women abroad who are getting fatter and manipulative, but that right here in the USA, we're seeing increasingly the same.
Maybe you've never used a matching site in the USA, ie match.com, the dismal plenty of fish, iharmony etc.--- but most guys who have, would probably agree that especially on the sites, there's an unprecedented number of women who are damaged goods like the woman you described.
Yes it's changing abroad, with easy access to technology and as I said above, I think the % of healthy, shapely women is declining with dietary changes as they angle for younger guys with thicker wallets
Between the internet, the way guys and gals treat each other in increasingly sh!tty ways, the more available junk/fast food and lack of exercise making already lazy people, even more rotund, the 'dating pool' appears to need some strong chlorine.
I don't see it happening.
My wife's sister is on some dating sites --she's beautiful, fun, easy going, like my wife she's humble, God fearing--- yet never holds her faith over anyone's head. She's mid 20's, a top tier rank RN in cosmopolitan Dubai, working in the royal family's own hospital--they only hire the best nurses.
We monitor and guide her--unless you have a VPN, Dubai has all kinds of clunky internet blocks. Her profile is sooo inviting, with none of the bragging I just did--she's humble, simple and sweet. Guess what? Almost NO bites and those few who do bite are typically pervs.
There's always been games like that online but it's worse than ever.
But here and there, women--be it technology, diet or just not having or having lost their value system, it's getting worse
We live in a world today where we increasingly see girls/women casually 'playing ' multiple guys on line simultaneously, while they're just getting fatter, jaded 'monkey branching' and treating guys with less affection and respect--it's not lessening.
I think most guys here would say "Me too!"
Damn, this was a long post--I am successfully procrastinating--putting off cutting the damn lawn!!!!
My wife keeps saying: "Let me pay for a lawn and garden service to do that, so you don't have to--it's too hot"--maybe she's right! Maybe next year....
That was pretty close to your record I think Robert.
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That was pretty close to your record I think Robert.
Well, I did get the lawn and garden done---the outside looks great--despite brutal heat (that let up today) we still have a lot of beautiful flowers in bloom. For late July in Georgia, that's no small feat.
I do the outside, she handles the inside--preparing fine cuisine, keeps our home tidy and 'homey.'
Right now she's squeezing milk from organic almonds she soaked for 12 hours. She's putting the almonds in the blender, will add honey and dates, blend it, then after squeezing it thru a cheesecloth bag (EZ) 'voila!'--I have the BEST non-dairy coffee creamer!!
She saves the almond pulp, using it as flour to bake the best banana bread, adding raisins and chocolate chips this week to go with my daily coffee.
Between that, & no longer eating a huge submarine sandwich every workday, I've lost 25-30 pounds over the last year.
She occasionally will pull some weeds and overgrowth from the flower beds, but although she was raised on a farm in an agricultural village, she was raised 1st to be a student and wife, attending private Catholic schools.
Her 5 year Bachelors degrees in Computer Engineering covered both computer hardware and software. All credits were accepted in The USA.
She maintains my hardware very well indeed.
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To the OP. If your serious about looking for a wife, potential wife or one night roll in the sack. Just be cautious of leaving yourself open for a scam or put yourself in an exposed position. Cover your bases, control the time, place and pace. Listen to that little voice called instinct that cautions you early on in meeting someone that something isnt right. Have a plan A hoping for the best but be prepared for the worst by having plan B.
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To the OP. If your serious about looking for a wife, potential wife or one night roll in the sack. Just be cautious of leaving yourself open for a scam or put yourself in an exposed position. Cover your bases, control the time, place and pace. Listen to that little voice called instinct that cautions you early on in meeting someone that something isnt right. Have a plan A hoping for the best but be prepared for the worst by having plan B.
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Hey Fos---looks like the OP hasn't been back in about a week. Hopefully he's too busy learning Tagalog, Visayan and Spanish.
Our wives speak Visayan, which has a lot of Spanish in it, so they can understand how that language works fairly easily.
Meanwhile my Spanish is so bad that I can't even order of the Taco Bell menu......
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To the OP. If your serious about looking for a wife, potential wife or one night roll in the sack. Just be cautious of leaving yourself open for a scam or put yourself in an exposed position. Cover your bases, control the time, place and pace. Listen to that little voice called instinct that cautions you early on in meeting someone that something isnt right. Have a plan A hoping for the best but be prepared for the worst by having plan B.
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As much as we advise and try to coach them before and during the process before they become legally entangled, it's almost futile.
Blinded by beauty, they fall into a trap and 999 out of a 1000 times, we never hear back about how they wish they'd been smarter.
As a group, we basically roll out the same advice. It's almost like we're doing it for each other as much as we are for the hapless rube, who acts like he's listening--at least until he can't bear to hear us squaring our real life experience and realities against the newbie's hope's.
The sucker can't stand it and storms off.
We might as well just cut n paste our advice posts, because online and especially once they're in some exotic location with a pocket full of dollars, they're blinded, dumbstruck by a pair of tits and ass.
Honeymoons never last.
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As much as we advise and try to coach them before and during the process before they become legally entangled, it's almost futile.
Blinded by beauty, they fall into a trap and 999 out of a 1000 times, we never hear back about how they wish they'd been smarter.
As a group, we basically roll out the same advice. It's almost like we're doing it for each other as much as we are for the hapless rube, who acts like he's listening--at least until he can't bear to hear us squaring our real life experience and realities with the newbie's hope's.
The sucker can't stand it and storms off.
We might as well just cut n paste our advice posts, because online and especially once they're in some exotic location with a pocket full of dollars, they're blinded, dumbstruck by a pair of tits and ass.
Honeymoons never last.
Lmao very true!
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As much as we advise and try to coach them before and during the process before they become legally entangled, it's almost futile.
Blinded by beauty, they fall into a trap and 999 out of a 1000 times, we never hear back about how they wish they'd been smarter.
As a group, we basically roll out the same advice. It's almost like we're doing it for each other as much as we are for the hapless rube, who acts like he's listening--at least until he can't bear to hear us squaring our real life experience and realities against the newbie's hope's.
The sucker can't stand it and storms off.
We might as well just cut n paste our advice posts, because online and especially once they're in some exotic location with a pocket full of dollars, they're blinded, dumbstruck by a pair of tits and ass.
Honeymoons never last.
Yea----it almost seems that they DON'T want to hear it--that the babe and her profile on line are sooo much better and so naturally of course, so is she.
Let's not awaken them from their dream, however earnest they seem soliciting our advice!
So the guy's goes into it early on accepting unreality. So his conversational tactics are already going to be wrong from the git go.
Then in some exotic locale--the two of them acting totally out of character from their normal selves--being out and away 'on holiday'---- the flags still can't be seen thru the guy's rose colored glasses.
Blinded by tits, ass, sweet bright eyes on a pretty face unlike anything back home, that only says the things to him she's been schooled on.
She knows all too well just what to say, because he's already been an open book.
And wallet.
Two weeks after meeting in person--he's already getting K1 or K2 paperwork to file with USCIS!
Tell ya what fellows--this is a high stakes game that we're all playing, be it single or hitched----a bit of good old fashioned cynicism goes a LONG way on our respective battlefronts.
Tell me tell me Quando.....?
'Quando' lyrics:
""I can't wait a minute more
Tell me Quando Quando Quando
That it's me alone that you adore...."""
Anybody here seen a picture close to this before?
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Yea----it almost seems that they DON'T want to hear it--that the babe and her profile on line are sooo much better and so naturally of course, so is she.
Let's not awaken them from their dream, however earnest they seem soliciting our advice!
So the guy's goes into it early on accepting unreality. So his conversational tactics are already going to be wrong from the git go.
Then in some exotic locale--the two of them acting totally out of character from their normal selves--being out and away 'on holiday'---- the flags still can't be seen thru the guy's rose colored glasses.
Blinded by tits, ass, sweet bright eyes on a pretty face unlike anything back home, that only says the things to him she's been schooled on.
She knows all too well just what to say, because he's already been an open book.
And wallet.
Two weeks after meeting in person--he's already getting K1 or K2 paperwork to file with USCIS!
Tell ya what fellows--this is a high stakes game that we're all playing, be it single or hitched----a bit of good old fashioned cynicism goes a LONG way on our respective battlefronts.
Tell me tell me Quando.....?
'Quando' lyrics:
""I can't wait a minute more
Tell me Quando Quando Quando
That it's me alone that you adore...."""
Anybody here seen a picture close to this before?
Long live Latinsharpei's thread!It was epic because we all warned him and most guys would never own up to their mistakes like he did....
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Long live Latinsharpei's thread!It was epic because we all warned him and most guys would never own up to their mistakes like he did....
Amen....
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Long live Latinsharpei's thread!It was epic because we all warned him and most guys would never own up to their mistakes like he did....
His last post, 2014: http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=5005 (http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=5005)
"""""[size=78%]Robert[/size]When the most important things I hear or read is starting a business and plans of being a doctor ans I hear nothing about family. That ends the deal with me. Its great to be driven but I am not the beast she is gonna ride to her goals then kick me in the ass for a Porsche. I have started to reflect in my past encounters. I am a huge football guy and watched a ton of game film to get better. I feel like this is my time in the film room. Things I failed at beforeI was willing to commit on thier terms.. I forgot who all was dealt a hand in the poker matchI kept buying into the same excuse its a cultural difference. Never accommodated to me.I was blinded by the birds and stars on the one and she was finding reasons to leave early and acting weird on dates. I should have cut her lose and chose one of the other 2 that are now married.""""
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His last post, 2014: http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=5005 (http://www.planet-love.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=5005)
"""""[size=78%]Robert[/size]When the most important things I hear or read is starting a business and plans of being a doctor ans I hear nothing about family. That ends the deal with me. Its great to be driven but I am not the beast she is gonna ride to her goals then kick me in the ass for a Porsche. I have started to reflect in my past encounters. I am a huge football guy and watched a ton of game film to get better. I feel like this is my time in the film room. Things I failed at beforeI was willing to commit on thier terms.. I forgot who all was dealt a hand in the poker matchI kept buying into the same excuse its a cultural difference. Never accommodated to me.I was blinded by the birds and stars on the one and she was finding reasons to leave early and acting weird on dates. I should have cut her lose and chose one of the other 2 that are now married.""""
Yep. Jaime even warned him but he accused of being haters for telling him to slow down...
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Yep. Jaime even warned him but he accused of being haters for telling him to slow down...
At least he had the nads to come back and fess up that we were right and had tried to warn him that he wasn't seeing 20/20.
Hard to believe it's been five years since that particular wreck.
100s of other guys came here who also didn't listen, ending up getting burned badly and w/o letting off here, ran away in the night like mongrels--tail between their legs.
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At least he had the nads to come back and fess up that we were right and had tried to warn him that he wasn't seeing 20/20.
Hard to believe it's been five years since that particular wreck.
100s of other guys came here who also didn't listen, ending up getting burned badly and w/o letting off here, ran away in the night like mongrels--tail between their legs.
There are a couple of guys here that contacted me privately looking for advice after things went south. Again though, Jamie and his staff usually spot these things long before they actually play out. You can’t tell a man $hit about a woman he believes is the one.
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At least he had the nads to come back and fess up that we were right and had tried to warn him that he wasn't seeing 20/20.
Hard to believe it's been five years since that particular wreck.
100s of other guys came here who also didn't listen, ending up getting burned badly and w/o letting off here, ran away in the night like mongrels--tail between their legs.
It's good that he recognized it for sure. Too bad the guy wasted his time though as many of us have over the years with some of the women we shacked up with. That's the nature of guys in the US anymore, ore so it seems. The norm is that it's our fault, we don't share enough, we're not thoughtfull of what she wants, toxic masculinity etc. When actually if we act like we are supposed to act with a little swagger as the decision maker, protector, provider that will put put the needs of his woman first Provided, she does the same and recognises each of their roles and respect for one another. Before I met my wife I honestly did not see my own demise until I split with my ex and reentered the Dating scene in the US. Then it became obvious. I went back to my old way of thinking with swagger and quickly realized women in US society over age X were not my bag. That's not to say those game playing women don't exist in other countries, there are just a higher ratio of genuinely good quality wife material out there. One just needs to be aware, have a low tolerance for that behavior and move on to the next one.
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It's good that he recognized it for sure. Too bad the guy wasted his time though as many of us have over the years with some of the women we shacked up with. That's the nature of guys in the US anymore, ore so it seems. The norm is that it's our fault, we don't share enough, we're not thoughtfull of what she wants, toxic masculinity etc. When actually if we act like we are supposed to act with a little swagger as the decision maker, protector, provider that will put put the needs of his woman first Provided, she does the same and recognises each of their roles and respect for one another. Before I met my wife I honestly did not see my own demise until I split with my ex and reentered the Dating scene in the US. Then it became obvious. I went back to my old way of thinking with swagger and quickly realized women in US society over age X were not my bag. That's not to say those game playing women don't exist in other countries, there are just a higher ratio of genuinely good quality wife material out there. One just needs to be aware, have a low tolerance for that behavior and move on to the next one.
I rarely have to tell her, and it's not because of an error in judgment on her part that I occasionally have to, but I think my wife actually likes it when I lay down the law and say "no.'
Last time, it was when I was texting her best friend's husband about an ongoing personal issue he's fighting and is reluctant to discuss.
My wife knows my phone is pretty much off limits to her, but I explained "If he knows my conversations between him us are being channeled by you back to his wife, he won't be open and I wouldn't blame him."
She didn't like it--she meant well--she wasn't looking for juicey gossip, not for dirt--that's polar opposite to her norm--she wanted to help both of them.
She isn't one to pout--she accepts my judgement and again, I think she secretly likes it when I tell her how it's gonna be.
I guess the my most common "no" is nixing going to social events that might not be healthy--gossips, gambling and drinking.
I usually explain and besides, she and I go out on 'dates' day and weekend trips for quite a bit for fun.
She loves 'one on one' more than anything. It's almost 3 and except to crap, I haven't gotten out of bed, while she made a great breakfastan even better lunch that we enjoyed in bed, then the house and laundry. I haven't even looked at the Sunday paper. We enjoyed listening to great music, etc.
Later we'll probably walk around the lake if I feel like it.
It's not like I keep her locked up, barefoot and pregnant, but as is her 'way' she (amazingly still) always asks 'permission' to go leave the house--which 99.9% of the time my "yes" to her asking is foregone conclusion.
But if my lead, if my judgement was consistently off, that would not be the case. She's loyal, smart and steady, NOT stupid.
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I rarely have to tell her, and it's not because of an error in judgment on her part that I occasionally have to, but I think my wife actually likes it when I lay down the law and say "no.'
Last time, it was when I was texting her best friend's husband about an ongoing personal issue he's fighting and is reluctant to discuss.
My wife knows my phone is pretty much off limits to her, but I explained "If he knows my conversations between him us are being channeled by you back to his wife, he won't be open and I wouldn't blame him."
She didn't like it--she meant well--she wasn't looking for juicey gossip, not for dirt--that's polar opposite to her norm--she wanted to help both of them.
She isn't one to pout--she accepts my judgement and again, I think she secretly likes it when I tell her how it's gonna be.
I guess the my most common "no" is nixing going to social events that might not be healthy--gossips, gambling and drinking.
I usually explain and besides, she and I go out on 'dates' day and weekend trips for quite a bit for fun.
She loves 'one on one' more than anything. It's almost 3 and except to crap, I haven't gotten out of bed, while she made a great breakfastan even better lunch that we enjoyed in bed, then the house and laundry. I haven't even looked at the Sunday paper. We enjoyed listening to great music, etc.
Later we'll probably walk around the lake if I feel like it.
It's not like I keep her locked up, barefoot and pregnant, but as is her 'way' she (amazingly still) always asks 'permission' to go leave the house--which 99.9% of the time my "yes" to her asking is foregone conclusion.
But if my lead, if my judgement was consistently off, that would not be the case. She's loyal, smart and steady, NOT stupid.
I thought about my post and how to some guys married to American raised women who are so uneven and dysfunctional, it almost sounds like my wife's an 'invention' out of the two "Stepford Wives" sci fi films--- where the guys had the ultimate ROBOT uber realistic hot homemaker wives..
She's not--she's better than that, but again if I was a total f__k up, she COULD leave me and support herself alone. I occasionally need to remind myself of that fact.
But if I lost my modest source of income, I'm pretty sure we'd BOTH just roll up our sleeves and work harder.
While money has afforded us some comforts, us living in a 1350 square foot cracker box house and up until late 2018--with her driving a 1997 Toyota--just two examples---I realize how little of our happiness hinges on money or materialism.
Sure it'd hurt if she wasn't able to go home every three years like she has, but we'd be OK. We're so glad for new communication methods like facebook messenger, apple facetime, skype etc.
Giving her my time, one on one w/o fixating on our cell phones, (working on OUR marriage) us respecting and caring for ea other's family, sharing funny and sad stories about us growing up,the sound of laughter and a healthy fear of God, are vastly more significant factors keeping us happily together.
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Hello Everyone,
I am very excited to join this forum and to see what I can learn from all the information and everyone's experiences. I am a 30 year old white male with brown hair and blue eyes. I am 6'1 and like to stay fit and eat healthy. My main goal is to go on Jamie's International Introduction Romance Tour and to hopefully find a very pretty Colombian girl that I can start the K-1 Fiance Visa process with.
What I am looking for is information and advice about the best way to find the right girl on a trip like this and the experience people have had with International Introductions Romance Tour. Please let me know what I can do to prepare for the trip that may increase my chances of finding the right women and what I can expect from the trip. I would really appreciate some advice and insight! Thank you very much!
Hey Paul I am kind of new to this right along with you good sir and I myself am planning on using Jamie's services via latin-wife.com in the next few months. I have been reading about "MOB" services and sites on and off for about 2 years and recently have ramped up my reading after visiting Jamie's site and I gotta say. . . This $h!7 is intense! My mind is wrapping around all the information I have read just here alone in this forum! It is quite interesting what I have read so far I must say! I came here to pretty much further verify the legitimacy of latin-wife.com and after seeing positive and negative sides from those whom post on here, I do not think I will regret giving this a try.
The biggest thing I have been reading from others in reference to meeting woman not from the US in general (not just South America) is that it is for desperate men or for men who pretty much cannot hack it with a "strong" and "independent" North American woman from the US. During discussion in the past the most common quote I heard was " If you cannot handle me at my worst, you do not deserve me at my best".
All of this use to bother me and I allowed it to stop me from trying something different from the normal insanity that is dating in the US. After remembering many interesting learning experiences while dating locally versus abroad I think it is well worth it to at least give it a good try.
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Hey Paul I am kind of new to this right along with you good sir and I myself am planning on using Jamie's services via latin-wife.com in the next few months. I have been reading about "MOB" services and sites on and off for about 2 years and recently have ramped up my reading after visiting Jamie's site and I gotta say. . . This $h!7 is intense! My mind is wrapping around all the information I have read just here alone in this forum! It is quite interesting what I have read so far I must say! I came here to pretty much further verify the legitimacy of latin-wife.com and after seeing positive and negative sides from those whom post on here, I do not think I will regret giving this a try.
The biggest thing I have been reading from others in reference to meeting woman not from the US in general (not just South America) is that it is for desperate men or for men who pretty much cannot hack it with a "strong" and "independent" North American woman from the US. During discussion in the past the most common quote I heard was " If you cannot handle me at my worst, you do not deserve me at my best".
All of this use to bother me and I allowed it to stop me from trying something different from the normal insanity that is dating in the US. After remembering many interesting learning experiences while dating locally versus abroad I think it is well worth it to at least give it a good try.
Hey Paul!--Jamie lays it out in pretty intense detail, without sugar coating. Be yourself but remember 'When in Rome (really anywhere far from home) do as the Romans do"
Of course right at home you have 'adjust on the fly' at time to different situations, but just read up on things that are said to be quite different than the norm there versus here, be able to advance at a good pace while shifting gears. No, once you find a gal you have a great feeling about, don't rush, but chances are you'll only have a week or two the first time, money's a consideration too, so get ready to shift on the fly.
You're paying a premium for the privilege, so do get as many women in front of you as possible, Think of which ones you want to come back and visit. Don't be afraid to come back w/o a clear favorite. I took a number of expensive trips overseas when I was in the midst of raising two sons solo and money was tight--I squeezed and found TIME 2, 3 weeks at a time. I don't regret the "hunts" ---with no take home trophy a bit---great vacations--just wish I met my wife earlier--same places, really all places, are more fun with her.
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Sorry guys I have been literally swamped at work as this is my busy season...
Thank you very much for all the comments and information. I have a lot of catching up to do.
Do many of you know the age range of women that Jamie has the most selection of?
What is the typical age many women get married in Colombia culture?
I am hoping to find a girl about 5 years younger than myself which is 25. I am taking the trip with Jamie in November and will update this or start a new thread about it.
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Sorry guys I have been literally swamped at work as this is my busy season...
Thank you very much for all the comments and information. I have a lot of catching up to do.
Do many of you know the age range of women that Jamie has the most selection of?
What is the typical age many women get married in Colombia culture?
I am hoping to find a girl about 5 years younger than myself which is 25. I am taking the trip with Jamie in November and will update this or start a new thread about it.
Jamie’s agency has a selection of women from 18 all the way to near retirement. Many men would assume the older birds don’t have a chance, but I’ve been there and seen a 66 year old gringo dating a 51 year old Colombiana. They were quite the couple actually!!
I wouldn’t place too many restrictions on the women you choose to meet based on frivolous characteristics like age. What’s much more important is chemistry!!! You’re 30. If you meet a 32 year old and all signs point to sincere, loving wife material that number shouldn’t matter much. As a matter of fact, if I were you, knowing what I know now, I’d leave maximum age up to 35 when you’re searching on Jamie’s site. Imagine completely missing out on a gorgeous 28 year old girl’s profile (there are always a few on the site) because you entered 25 as the maximum age. The filters are there for a reason but use them sparingly. I don’t know your preference, but whether or not a woman already has children is a much more important variable. Colombianos generally won’t get seriously involved with single mothers, so how hot the girls you’re able to date are will increase exponentially if you’re willing to date women that already have kids.
Colombians have this thing I’ll never understand, where a woman is considered a spinster if she’s not married by 30. You’ll find women there become a lot more accepting of a man’s flaws once they reach that age. Things they considered important in their youth like a man’s height, weight, facial features, race, etc. get a lot less important as they get older. Things like financial stability, how much you drink/smoke and personal grooming habits carry much more weight then.
Jamie has 18-22 year olds on his site but to be honest most of them aren’t in a marriage headspace yet. A lot of them still like to go out, drink, dance, etc. Many are flaky, unreliable and they don’t take the agency’s process seriously. Out of the handful of younger girls I dated at Jamie’s, I always got the impression that it was more about the adventure of meeting a foreigner and getting a free meal at a nice restaurant. They are also much more likely to cheat because of the distance in my opinion.
I met my first Colombian girlfriend at Jamie’s when I was 28. She was 19. One of the primary reasons we ended up breaking up was she wanted to finish college before moving to the states and marrying me. I explained to her that her Colombian degree wouldn’t mean jack $hit in the U.S. and offered to pay for her to study in the states. It didn’t matter. She wanted her family to see her accomplish that goal. Again, a very young way of thinking that played a part in ending our relationship and she regretted that afterwards. But at the time she felt earning a useless degree to impress her family was more important than her future husband. I’m not trying to say you should count them out entirely. I’ve seen a 30 year old gringo make it work with a 19 year old (he got her pregnant immediately), I would just be very cautious with girls that young.
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That's an interesting story Benijo. You certainly started early. It seems to me though that trying to convince your ex girlfriend that her college education in Barranquilla was useless was a mistake, even jingoistic regardless of how it would have served her in the US. She and those around her obviously respected it, it was what they knew and felt they could count on. You and all you proposed to offer on the other and were a complete unknown. Furthermore trying to complete her degree in the US would be a horrendous challange if she didn't speak English. All that aside yes it is unlikely that a city girl at 19 would be seriously interested in marriage to a gringo. A girl from the campo maybe but how do you ever meet them if you don't live in Colombia and besides it would likely be more difficult for them to make the transition to the US. I always thought and still do that 23 (and up) would be a good target age for marriage to a city girl.
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That's an interesting story Benijo. You certainly started early. It seems to me though that trying to convince your ex girlfriend that her college education in Barranquilla was useless was a mistake, even jingoistic regardless of how it would have served her in the US. She and those around her obviously respected it, it was what they knew and felt they could count on. You and all you proposed to offer on the other and were a complete unknown. Furthermore trying to complete her degree in the US would be a horrendous challange if she didn't speak English. All that aside yes it is unlikely that a city girl at 19 would be seriously interested in marriage to a gringo. A girl from the campo maybe but how do you ever meet them if you don't live in Colombia and besides it would likely be more difficult for them to make the transition to the US. I always thought and still do that 23 (and up) would be a good target age for marriage to a city girl.
Agree with everything you said. Lesson learned. But again, she regretted that decision and has expressed that to me on several occasions. She ended up dropping out and working for a while then eventually went back and finished, but at the time her family’s “priorities” and what was truly important to her were two very different things. I think both her and I learned a lot from the relationship. I have no regrets.
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Thank you very much for the reply Benjio. I am not looking to start any relationship with any girl under 23. I am thinking of setting the preferences for the girls I would like to meet at 23-27. I was just mainly trying to weed out young girls who are just trying to use my pockets and for a good time and trying to find ones who are in the right mindset for what I am searching for. Thanks again and I appreciate your advice and plan on contacting you on how to go about this trip and narrowing down and making my selection the best way.
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Jamie’s agency has a selection of women from 18 all the way to near retirement. Many men would assume the older birds don’t have a chance, but I’ve been there and seen a 66 year old gringo dating a 51 year old Colombiana. They were quite the couple actually!!
I wouldn’t place too many restrictions on the women you choose to meet based on frivolous characteristics like age. What’s much more important is chemistry!!! You’re 30. If you meet a 32 year old and all signs point to sincere, loving wife material that number shouldn’t matter much.
Colombians have this thing I’ll never understand, where a woman is considered a spinster if she’s not married by 30. You’ll find women there become a lot more accepting of a man’s flaws once they reach that age. Things they considered important in their youth like a man’s height, weight, facial features, race, etc. get a lot less important as they get older. Things like financial stability, how much you drink/smoke and personal grooming habits carry much more weight then.
I met my first Colombian girlfriend at Jamie’s when I was 28. She was 19. One of the primary reasons we ended up breaking up was she wanted to finish college before moving to the states and marrying me. I explained to her that her Colombian degree wouldn’t mean jack $hit in the U.S. and offered to pay for her to study in the states. It didn’t matter. She wanted her family to see her accomplish that goal. Again, a very young way of thinking that played a part in ending our relationship and she regretted that afterwards. But at the time she felt earning a useless degree to impress her family was more important than her future husband. I’m not trying to say you should count them out entirely. I’ve seen a 30 year old gringo make it work with a 19 year old (he got her pregnant immediately), I would just be very cautious with girls that young.
My wife was also 19 when I met her--introduced on-line by a Filipina living in Vermont! (network!!) In her country they start college age 16. Like her siblings, at age 16 their parents decided if they could handle leaving the farm for big city Universities 3 hours east.
I didn't marry her until she was age 23--the pics on the sofa were taken then.
By age 20, she had double (hard and software) 5 year computer engineering degrees and was a Logistics Engineer for Coca Cola, Philippines (a dream job there) and it was where she'd interned--they liked her hard work. And she was the only woman there, in a land where women are marginalized big time.
But she didn't need me--she didn't really 'need' any guy--she'd made the grade there.
But from the 1st time some squeaky clean white Mormon missionary boys came to her barangay, she wanted a white husband, to love and give her blue eyed babies.
Besides, a Chicago surgeon and a USA airline pilot liked her, but the silly girl held out for me--virginity and all.
I told her for the 1st 2.5 years that we knew ea. other, to see other people.
Hell, I was seeing other women! But we stayed in touch just about every day all the while. She worked six days a week, twelve hours a day and what little 'extra time' she had, she'd go to the internet cafe to chat, cam with me. She never asked me for a single peso.
I even visited an island close by to her province (11,000 miles from my home) and did NOT go to see her. Not smart.
I am still amazed she didn't write me off and end up w/ someone else.
While all her engineering credits were accepted in the USA, that didn't matter-- the reality of USA employment bias is very real. Language barriers hurt. Besides, the time passing after we got engaged and dealt w/ USCIS just dragged on forever and in that emerging field, her skill set was dated.
It's hard to keep a normal job in their countries and to work w/ USCIS K1 Fiance or K2 Spousal visas, with all their requirements. My wife left her job on the chance that I was 'the one'--as much as they liked her, there was no way they'd give her three weeks off. Thousands, almost all prioritized males, wait for jobs like hers there.
Funny thing though--although the company where she's been working at now for six years here in the states started her by giving her books of doctors'#s--dr's who'd previously rejected the company's products--making awful, awkward 'cold calls' to reopen, trying to close long dead sales--NOT her forte--she kept moving up and while not paid engineer pay today, her job is making sure their eCommerce platform not only works in all 50 states but recently in all of Canada also (inc. French CA) and that's brought her kinda full circle, about 14 years after arriving in the USA.
Over the years here, she improved her written and spoken English ability--to her credit, she is still working on it actually. And that's really helped.
But Benjio's right on target--so many things he said (spinster over age 30, being untouchable if they have a kid, foreign college degree/credits not transferring to employment here etc) are the sad truth in her country as well.
I made guidelines for my search --'parameters' and her age did NOT come close to fitting them. I kept saying to myself:
"Too young, too cute, too nice a family, too educated, she deserves to have kids--she would make the BEST Mother--plus danger ranger----they're programmed to want kids in their culture--sooner or later"
But like Benjio said, don't get too locked into parameters. My resolve slowly melted.
But I wasted 4 years.....
Anyways--we feel our marriage is just getting better as the years pass. I may even graduate from 'Bad Dog MALE School' one fine day (I'm a bad seed AND relatively poor) and be the husband she deserves some then.
Maybe she just pretends every day is "Be Kind to Animals Day" and I get another day....
Even if I feel like an old goat eating fresh green grass sometimes, she is just rock steady--.
She had her head screwed on--her priorities and values set, by age 16--with her parents insisting on education as being vital to their her future.
Friday we leave to spend a couple weeks in Michigan with my (our) family--then we leave for a couple more weeks touring Europe. We're stoked!!
Here's a few pics, she just had Lasik surgery--no more eye glasses-- she saved her own salary for it, while still spoiling me--all pics (except for the 2 w/her on sofa, age 23) are from the last 2 weeks!
Now, while she's pushing towards age 40, the only person she takes better care of than herself---is ME!
""Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."" (R. Frost)
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My wife was also 19 when I met her--introduced on-line by a Filipina living in Vermont! (network!!) In her country they start college age 16. Like her siblings, at age 16 their parents decided if they could handle leaving the farm for big city Universities 3 hours east.
I didn't marry her until she was age 23--the pics on the sofa were taken then.
By age 20, she had double (hard and software) 5 year computer engineering degrees and was a Logistics Engineer for Coca Cola, Philippines (a dream job there) and it was where she'd interned--they liked her hard work. And she was the only woman there, in a land where women are marginalized big time.
But she didn't need me--she didn't really 'need' any guy--she'd made the grade there.
But from the 1st time some squeaky clean white Mormon missionary boys came to her barangay, she wanted a white husband, to love and give her blue eyed babies.
Besides, a Chicago surgeon and a USA airline pilot liked her, but the silly girl held out for me--virginity and all.
I told her for the 1st 2.5 years that we knew ea. other, to see other people.
Hell, I was seeing other women! But we stayed in touch just about every day all the while. She worked six days a week, twelve hours a day and what little 'extra time' she had, she'd go to the internet cafe to chat, cam with me. She never asked me for a single peso.
I even visited an island close by to her province (11,000 miles from my home) and did NOT go to see her. Not smart.
I am still amazed she didn't write me off and end up w/ someone else.
While all her engineering credits were accepted in the USA, that didn't matter-- the reality of USA employment bias is very real. Language barriers hurt. Besides, the time passing after we got engaged and dealt w/ USCIS just dragged on forever and in that emerging field, her skill set was dated.
It's hard to keep a normal job in their countries and to work w/ USCIS K1 Fiance or K2 Spousal visas, with all their requirements. My wife left her job on the chance that I was 'the one'--as much as they liked her, there was no way they'd give her three weeks off. Thousands, almost all prioritized males, wait for jobs like hers there.
Funny thing though--although the company where she's been working at now for six years here in the states started her by giving her books of doctors'#s--dr's who'd previously rejected the company's products--making awful, awkward 'cold calls' to reopen, trying to close long dead sales--NOT her forte--she kept moving up and while not paid engineer pay today, her job is making sure their eCommerce platform not only works in all 50 states but recently in all of Canada also (inc. French CA) and that's brought her kinda full circle, about 14 years after arriving in the USA.
Over the years here, she improved her written and spoken English ability--to her credit, she is still working on it actually. And that's really helped.
But Benjio's right on target--so many things he said (spinster over age 30, being untouchable if they have a kid, foreign college degree/credits not transferring to employment here etc) are the sad truth in her country as well.
I made guidelines for my search --'parameters' and her age did NOT come close to fitting them. I kept saying to myself:
"Too young, too cute, too nice a family, too educated, she deserves to have kids--she would make the BEST Mother--plus danger ranger----they're programmed to want kids in their culture--sooner or later"
But like Benjio said, don't get too locked into parameters. My resolve slowly melted.
But I wasted 4 years.....
Anyways--we feel our marriage is just getting better as the years pass. I may even graduate from 'Bad Dog MALE School' one fine day (I'm a bad seed AND relatively poor) and be the husband she deserves some then.
Maybe she just pretends every day is "Be Kind to Animals Day" and I get another day....
Even if I feel like an old goat eating fresh green grass sometimes, she is just rock steady--.
She had her head screwed on--her priorities and values set, by age 16--with her parents insisting on education as being vital to their her future.
Friday we leave to spend a couple weeks in Michigan with my (our) family--then we leave for a couple more weeks touring Europe. We're stoked!!
Here's a few pics, she just had Lasik surgery--no more eye glasses-- she saved her own salary for it, while still spoiling me--all pics (except for the 2 w/her on sofa, age 23) are from the last 2 weeks!
Now, while she's pushing towards age 40, the only person she takes better care of than herself---is ME!
""Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."" (R. Frost)
Double ( first time I have heard of that expression) computer engineering degree in at age 20 from the Phillipines.
Affrer her nuclear physics degree at 12 years old.
Sounds like a Monty Python skit
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I’m not sure about The Philippines but in the U.S. double majors aren’t uncommon in IT and a lot of universities now offer 6 year programs for them. I think Robert’s jargon is just a little off. “Hard and software” could mean a combination of Computer Science and Network Infrastructure, CIS and Hardware Engineering, Software Development and Electrical Engineering or any alternate combination of the aforementioned. In today’s job market companies prefer the “jack of all trades, master of none” personnel model to reduce information technology overhead. Everyone hates the master developer that can program AI but doesn’t know how to troubleshoot a printer that’s not working...and believe me those guys exist!!!! ;D
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Double ( first time I have heard of that expression) computer engineering degree in at age 20 from the Phillipines.
Affrer her nuclear physics degree at 12 years old.
Sounds like a Monty Python skit
So she did a five year program in four years, going summers. She wanted to earn to help pay for her younger sibling's schooling. What's so hard to fathom about that? 1st time you heard about that, Mr. Philippines expert?
She was always at or near the top of her class in Catholic school, before college too.
My son graduates in December from UGA with a 4 year computer degree---his FIRST job offer is for 85K a year. He eats, sleeps and breathes Math. Guess who's been there for him since he was in 3rd grade thru 12th, helping him when his Math homework got really difficult? You probably choose not to believe that too.
I get the feeling that you're a bitter misogynist, against women and that your preset disbeliefs create self fulfilling, sorry ass prophecies that define your life.
They say you make your own luck. I think you've been making your own bad luck for over sixty years now---a male spinster.
Some people---if they didn't have people to dislike, dismiss and look down on, if they weren't miserable--well, they'd be miserable!! Without that toxic 'misery fuel' that drives their disgruntled mindset/lives, they'd be even more lost.
I bet there's a LOT of things you don't believe.....
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I’m not sure about The Philippines but in the U.S. double majors aren’t uncommon in IT and a lot of universities now offer 6 year programs for them. I think Robert’s jargon is just a little off. “Hard and software” could mean a combination of Computer Science and Network Infrastructure, CIS and Hardware Engineering, Software Development and Electrical Engineering or any alternate combination of the aforementioned. In today’s job market companies prefer the “jack of all trades, master of none” personnel model to reduce information technology overhead. Everyone hates the master developer that can program AI but doesn’t know how to troubleshoot a printer that’s not working...and believe me those guys exist!!!! ;D
An extra 5th year can do a lot, seeing how you've gotten a lot of prerequisite courses out of the way already and the focus is on the 'nuts and bolts' --- on course essentials you're already somewhat acquainted with. And it was well over 15 years ago--closer to 20 actually--a LOT has changed since then.
Most colleges already require that graduates have a major AND a minor degree, so turning a minor into a 2nd major isn't 'starting from scratch'--there's overlap.
My son is adding a Math degree to his computer degree, plus taking a lot of AI coursework, all in 4.5 years. He took the bare minimum full time load some semesters--12 credits, although several classes were killer '6000' level-- graduate classes that applied to his Bachelors degree transcript.
Heck, it wasn't computers, but at Michigan, (that's here in the USA) I could've picked up a 2nd Masters degree in a field related to my 1st, by staying another year--9 months actually and wish I had, as the pay and job mobility options would've been better.
You might not believe that right now some USA law schools offer combination law/MBA degrees in the same 3 years a law school program typically takes.
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I get the feeling that you're a bitter misogynist, against women and that your preset disbeliefs create self fulfilling, sorry ass prophecies that define your life.
They say you make your own luck. I think you've been making your own bad luck for over sixty years now---a male spinster.
HA HA!!!! You shouldn’t be so hard on Elex, Robert. Luckily your destiny took you to The Philippines. Most of the long term, feet on the ground expats in Colombia I know don’t have a lot of good things to say about the women. That is unless they’ve been married to a Colombiana for a while already. Have you ever read Jamie’s website? It’s not very flattering. In my opinion his pitch is, “Hey...women have their flaws everywhere, but if you’re going to make the mistake of getting married she might as well be gorgeous, love to fu@k and actually treat you like a man!”
It’s a “glass half empty, glass half full” kind of thing. You can run with it, grow some balls, acclimate to the culture and enjoy being with some of the most beautiful women on Earth (like CaliPro); or sulk, whine, complain and slap every guy in the face with a reality check that thought Colombia was the land of faithful, virgin supermodels. I think I’ve found a happy medium between the two. ;D ;D ;D
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HA HA!!!! You shouldn’t be so hard on Elex, Robert. Luckily your destiny took you to The Philippines. Most of the long term, feet on the ground expats in Colombia I know don’t have a lot of good things to say about the women. That is unless they’ve been married to a Colombiana for a while already. Have you ever read Jamie’s website? It’s not very flattering. In my opinion his pitch is, “Hey...women have their flaws everywhere, but if you’re going to make the mistake of getting married she might as well be gorgeous, love to fu@k and actually treat you like a man!”
It’s a “glass half empty, glass half full” kind of thing. You can run with it, grow some balls, acclimate to the culture and enjoy being with some of the most beautiful women on Earth (like CaliPro); or sulk, whine, complain and slap every guy in the face with a reality check that thought Colombia was the land of faithful, virgin supermodels. I think I’ve found a happy medium between the two. ;D ;D ;D
I may not be in on the play by play, but I have to give Uncle Elex, as well as Mudd, props for still being players in the 'game' and at an age where other men hung it up (even saggy balled guys) or remained in marriages that had long lost their thrills. Guess the rocking chairs are still a ways off.
Yeah, I can be quite acerbic here but it's the internet and he's a rottweiler and i'm a german shepard, I'm roman catholic, he's greek orthodox, etc. Never forget:
"On the internet, nobody knows you're really a dog"
The anonymous nature of the internet keenly begets assholian behavior.
If assholian isn't a word, I invented it a while back and am still perfecting the behaviors associated with the term. It's part of me having a happy second childhood and going on 'permanent vacation' yada yada...
We'll never meet and if we did, I gather we'd both be better for it. Real life IS different.
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So she did a five year program in four years, going summers. She wanted to earn to help pay for her younger sibling's schooling. What's so hard to fathom about that? 1st time you heard about that, Mr. Philippines expert?
She was always at or near the top of her class in Catholic school, before college too.
My son graduates in December from UGA with a 4 year computer degree---his FIRST job offer is for 85K a year. He eats, sleeps and breathes Math. Guess who's been there for him since he was in 3rd grade thru 12th, helping him when his Math homework got really difficult? You probably choose not to believe that too.
I get the feeling that you're a bitter misogynist, against women and that your preset disbeliefs create self fulfilling, sorry ass prophecies that define your life.
They say you make your own luck. I think you've been making your own bad luck for over sixty years now---a male spinster.
Some people---if they didn't have people to dislike, dismiss and look down on, if they weren't miserable--well, they'd be miserable!! Without that toxic 'misery fuel' that drives their disgruntled mindset/lives, they'd be even more lost.
I bet there's a LOT of things you don't believe.....
Nope just spend a.lot of time working in developing countries and with immigrant engineers and know how useless some of those degrees are..
Guess that makes me a racist as wellas a misogynist, right?
Dont know nothing about your wifes degree aa I know nothing about computer science and systems degrees.
Using the word " misogynist" makes you sound like a feminist Robert..
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Maybe Robert doesn't want to claim the title of feminist but I will gladly claim it. I have three daughters and I raised them to be independent women who are not dependent on a man. My wife and my ex before her are both strong independent women.
The country and the world are f*cked up because of men and their stupid little macho games. I don't see young women out there committing mass murder or inciting others to violence. We have a culture of toxic masculinity with no respect for anyone or anything. A real man takes care of his children and the community that he lives in. From what I can see there are damn few real men out there.
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Maybe Robert doesn't want to claim the title of feminist but I will gladly claim it. I have three daughters and I raised them to be independent women who are not dependent on a man. My wife and my ex before her are both strong independent women.
The country and the world are f*cked up because of men and their stupid little macho games. I don't see young women out there committing mass murder or inciting others to violence. We have a culture of toxic masculinity with no respect for anyone or anything. A real man takes care of his children and the community that he lives in. From what I can see there are damn few real men out there.
Good.. independent women with pride are what we need..
So that when the relationship ends they only leave with what they put in and have enough pride not to abscond with all the mans worldly possesions..even though the courts says they can..
If you are gonna talk the feminist talk, walk the walk..
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Good.. independent women with pride are what we need..
So that when the relationship ends they only leave with what they put in and have enough pride not to abscond with all the mans worldly possesions..even though the courts says they can..
If you are gonna talk the feminist talk, walk the walk..
He’s got a point there.
“There are no feminist on a sinking ship.” - Patrice O’Neal
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Robert was there something you wanted to illustrate by posting the homey pictures of yourself and Phillipine wife? What they seem to clarify once again is that there are men like yourself who are drawn to a physical type that is pretty much entirely different from the type that men who seek women from Colombia are looking for.
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Robert was there something you wanted to illustrate by posting the homey pictures of yourself and Phillipine wife? What they seem to clarify once again is that there are men like yourself who are drawn to a physical type that is pretty much entirely different from the type that men who seek women from Colombia are looking for.
Well, the OP, AKA "Newbie here" said early on in this thread that he's decided that while he's still checking out Colombia, that he is also giving strong consideration to the Philippines as well.
I thought I'd perhaps elicit his, as well as other's possible interest. Obviously I'm sold on it!!
There's a LOT of different looking types of women there, physically influenced by 400 some years of Spanish occupation, some have indigenous people's blood, some Australian blood, Asiatic genetics abound--there are morenas and gals with skin that's snow white --with equine noses too---some quite similar to the gamut you're likely to encounter in S.America.
I'd dare to say there's more of a difference generally in temperament/personality than there is in physical appearances between the Philippines and Colombia's women.
Guys who haven't traveled around the 7100+ islands of the Philippines often have a notion that the women there look kind of "Chinese" but most Filipinos feel that they by and large look different than most Chinese, especially in the eyes.
But fair enough question/statement!
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Maybe Robert doesn't want to claim the title of feminist but I will gladly claim it. I have three daughters and I raised them to be independent women who are not dependent on a man. My wife and my ex before her are both strong independent women.
The country and the world are f*cked up because of men and their stupid little macho games. I don't see young women out there committing mass murder or inciting others to violence. We have a culture of toxic masculinity with no respect for anyone or anything. A real man takes care of his children and the community that he lives in. From what I can see there are damn few real men out there.
I think a lot of guys in the USA are weak and insecure and that a lot of their bravado is posturing.
Guys are so insecure that if they think another person, a company, party , or group is "disrespecting" their thin skinned, sorry ass selves, that they need to be shot or at least need to 'pay' in some awful way.
How we treat or mistreat other people is really a reflection of how we really are as individuals.
Like they've been saying for generations (with increasingly less effectiveness) is that it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight than to get into one.
I think the same notion holds true in terms of how individuals deal with a multitude of life situations everyday.
I see kids and adults almost everyday who might just pull out a gun or knife and kill another person for "dissing"-- in their minds disrespecting them with as little as what they see as a disparaging look.
My grandparents came here from Italy and Ireland, looking for work. What 'greeted' them were signs in the windows saying:
"HELP WANTED, NO ITALIANS/IRISH NEED APPLY"
Racial and ethnic slurs were everywhere.
There were no food stamps, no subsidized housing, a saying passed on to me was: "We didn't have a pot to piss in OR a window to throw it out of."
But nonetheless they sucked it up, embraced this strange, sometimes cruel nation and I don't recall a lot of those hungry, disenfranchised people perpetuating mass killings.
But, they WERE very welcomed to sign up for the Military during wartime! (and they did)
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Well, the OP, AKA "Newbie here" said early on in this thread that he's decided that while he's still checking out Colombia, that he is also giving strong consideration to the Philippines as well.
I thought I'd perhaps elicit his, as well as other's possible interest. Obviously I'm sold on it!!
There's a LOT of different looking types of women there, physically influenced by 400 some years of Spanish occupation, some have indigenous people's blood, some Australian blood, Asiatic genetics abound--there are morenas and gals with skin that's snow white --with equine noses too---some quite similar to the gamut you're likely to encounter in S.America.
I'd dare to say there's more of a difference generally in temperament/personality than there is in physical appearances between the Philippines and Colombia's women.
Guys who haven't traveled around the 7100+ islands of the Philippines often have a notion that the women there look kind of "Chinese" but most Filipinos feel that they by and large look different than most Chinese, especially in the eyes.
But fair enough question/statement!
I met a Korean guy in the Colombia that tried to talk me into going to the Philippines. I told him that I wasn’t really all that attracted to Philippine women and he said wasn’t either....but he said that there are literally tens of thousands of single women that go out at night and it is impossible not to find something that you like. And he said it was even cheaper than Colombia.
He told me that the biggest expense would be your airfare....that dating, dinning out and hotel would be less expensive than the airfare for a week trip.
I never went....but I think if you are attracted to Philippine women....it is a no brainer.....just based on the common language.
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I met a Korean guy in the Colombia that tried to talk me into going to the Philippines. I told him that I wasn’t really all that attracted to Philippine women and he said wasn’t either....but he said that there are literally tens of thousands of single women that go out at night and it is impossible not to find something that you like. And he said it was even cheaper than Colombia.
####Tons of Korean guys are tapping it. Probably as many Japanese guys too--They're more into looking for a "traditional" wife. Both nation's guys usually have money to burn and they'll marry a Filipina just to buy cheap ocean front land. Korean guys have a rep as being cold, even rough. Fly through a Korean airport and you can tell the Filipinos in a minute--they're the only people smiling. For guys in Japan and they are a horny bunch, they have to deal with dynamics in Japan that make metoo and femnism in the USA seem minor. Most diapers are literally sold to adults in Japan, as the birth rate goes sub zero--their population decreases about half a million people a year.
The women don't f--k like rabbits. Japanese guys like the better educated babes, gals who also aren't sexual prudes. Stuff they can't find back home, so Filipinas fit the bill to a T...
So meanwhile in 5he Philippines, they're open 24X7, the oven's on hot and over a 100 million people are out and about every day---perhaps the most sociable population anywhere...####
He told me that the biggest expense would be your airfare....that dating, dinning out and hotel would be less expensive than the airfare for a week trip.
####Airfare cost and time getting there are killer, From east coast USA 30 hours average between here and ####Manila--seen 40 hours. 13 time zones. Jet lag doesn't kill me--I take something to knock me out on the 14 hour flight leg, 'flip flopping' my sleep rythm a bit.
If you want to live NYC style in the Philippines--if you want a 4 or 5 star resort, just >overall< IF you want to live 'western style' most of what you'd save goes away. I have burned some serious money in Cebu City and all over humongously large, dense Manila area. If you can't get laid there and in CC, you must not have a pulse.. Davao City where I live, doesn't have half their action, but a stroll about amost anywhere there can lead to 'temptations' also.####
I never went....but I think if you are attracted to Philippine women....it is a no brainer.....just based on the common language.
####I think it boils down to filipinas being much more submissive in nature and leaving a big shout out fight or physically losing it as an absolute last resort. They smolder (tampo) before burning, where as some of my latina GF's and three Aunties would have nuclear meltdowns. Sure the makeup sex might be as hot, but again w most Filipinas it's open 24X7 and they obey very well. I know what I'm coming home to and I have the authority to change it up w/o dealing with drama. They're happy if we are happy 1st. I've heard a lot of the working girls will even refuse payment if you're not completely satisfied.####
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Not to be on topic or something unusual for me, maybe I'm just looking for signs of intelligent life here on dormant P.L., but I betchya that 1 of the 2 guys here looking to make that 1st trip come back thinking they've very possibly met "the one."
Ya kin get 'lucky' pretty quick, but finding 'just right' namely a good long termer, tends to take a bit longer.
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Yes take your time, do not plan on starting the Visa process before you have met the love of your life. Jamies was fun and was good for me to learn a bit more and experience some of what Colombia has to offer. After that I kept studying spanish and ultimately met my wife on Colombian Cupid. The most important thing is that you have to wait until you spark up something organic and naturally. Don't let yourself get swept away by the idea of what you want and make a big mistake. Usually we only get one shot at the Fiance Visa thing. Do not put too high an expectation on this trip. Have a good time. Meet some ladies. Get Rosetta Stone and use it 30 minutes daily. Levels 1-3 very important. Practice chatting with ladies online in Spanish. Find out what kinds of relationships she has with the people in her life. Do not put a time limit on this journey. I would not start the Visa process with any lady after just one visit. Do not talk about you past relationships and if she does move on. Do not get involved with anyone who has children. Good luck!
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Not sure if you are still on the fence about going to Colombia but I would just like to put in my 2 cents.
*learn Spanish ASAP
*Learn the phrase "Dar Papaya" and stay away from those situations.
*Take your time
*Don't paint yourself into a corner, keep your options open
*If you find yourself fighting a lot, cut her loose or just keep her on the sidelines for "fun" don't commit to drama queens or your life will suck immensely
*Try to live in a warm city because I don't see how it is possible for a Costena or Calena to survive well in Northern US climates. At the minimum, if you live in a cold place, make sure you have plenty of time and cash to take frequent vacations to tropical places.
*Make sure she can cook. If she is not cooking when you are together in Colombia she may be a gold digger.
*Two phones? See you later. But a good idea for you if you are playing the field and trying to whittle down your options.
*Make multiple trips before committing to anything
*Think 3 times if you are going into this and have young kids or if she does. Complicates things a bit.
*If you are young, reasonably fit/good looking, not a dork, and make good cash, just have fun. Forget about getting married until you are around 40 or so.
*Based on my experience, Cali and the Coast are the best. The Costenas seem to have more down to earth good girls but there are still plenty of flakes and gold diggers as well.
Good Luck to you!
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Not sure if you are still on the fence about going to Colombia but I would just like to put in my 2 cents.
*learn Spanish ASAP
*Learn the phrase "Dar Papaya" and stay away from those situations.
*Take your time
*Don't paint yourself into a corner, keep your options open
*If you find yourself fighting a lot, cut her loose or just keep her on the sidelines for "fun" don't commit to drama queens or your life will suck immensely
*Try to live in a warm city because I don't see how it is possible for a Costena or Calena to survive well in Northern US climates. At the minimum, if you live in a cold place, make sure you have plenty of time and cash to take frequent vacations to tropical places.
*Make sure she can cook. If she is not cooking when you are together in Colombia she may be a gold digger.
*Two phones? See you later. But a good idea for you if you are playing the field and trying to whittle down your options.
*Make multiple trips before committing to anything
*Think 3 times if you are going into this and have young kids or if she does. Complicates things a bit.
*If you are young, reasonably fit/good looking, not a dork, and make good cash, just have fun. Forget about getting married until you are around 40 or so.
*Based on my experience, Cali and the Coast are the best. The Costenas seem to have more down to earth good girls but there are still plenty of flakes and gold diggers as well.
Good Luck to you!
Great advice. 9 plus years married to a costena and agree 100%.
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Congrats to you as well! We are lucky guys.
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Congrats to you as well! We are lucky guys.
Thanks. It hasn't been all peaches and cream but definitely the best decision of my life. Her Dad is finishing a two month stay with us , his first visit. No joke he's done about $40000 worth of upgrades on our house. He works construction and has an incredible work ethic. I am lucky to have a great father in law too...
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I am curious to know how the agencies have survived COVID restrictions, etc. I went to BAQ just beforehand in early 2020 before COVID really took off and am thankful I didn't delay the trip by another month or two as I'd have ran into the restrictions/challenges of being abroad and getting back.
I used Int'l Introductions and met my now wife there. The experience was great - sure, you can use apps or just go down there for a week - 10 days and meet a lot of people, but they do a lot of the leg work ahead of time. It isn't for everyone and Jamie may rub some the wrong way, but I am an example of the process working.