Back From my Barranquilla Trip

[stevekoozer]

So now that I am back here is a trip report of my experience using Jamie’s agency and my experience with my time in BAQ.



So for me this is a first using an agency( as most of you know) and I feel that it was the right choice for me as the culture is different than what I am used to in my travels to other Latin speaking countries over the years. My Spanish speaking skills are ok as well as my understanding of Spanish in a conversation….. Reading and writing are a whole different thing for me mind you. I went with the interpreter and I am glad I did. Colombian Spanish is a bit different for me and man do they speak fast which is somewhat of an oxymoron as nothing really happens too fast in Colombia versus what I am used to here and elsewhere in the world. The girl that was translating for me did an excellent job when required to keep communication clear on both ends. So it was about a 50-50 split I got help when I needed it in conversations with the gals and vice versa and that was a plus to help all concerned understand clearly.

 So I met a total of about 30-32 women, I did not keep an accurate count as I was quite a busy fellow during all the initial meetings. I never actually had one of the large group meetings. It was just the way it worked out based on the selections I had made and the schedules of the girls and the days I was there. I had one meeting that was scheduled with three on the first day but one called and cancelled (more on this later) so it became a meeting of two. There were of course cancellations, no shows and such outside of the ones I did meet and talk with. The set up that Jamie has for all this is different and is not for everybody. It was bit hard on the head as the initial meetings pretty much end up being the same questions asked over and over again by the girls at least but not like they were following a scripted monologue.

 I do agree with the way he does this though as dating anywhere is really a numbers game as we all know. The single meets are I would say are better for getting the women a little more relaxed and into conversation versus talking in front of a bunch of other girls. There were girls that were very prompt with the scheduled meeting time, some that were a few minutes late and some that were quite late. I did not take this to heart as this is the way things are there and did not base my judgement on seeing a girl for a morning, lunch or dinner date because of timing on their behalf. I went out with the girls that I wanted to talk with more because of the conversation we had in our first meeting not purely for looks and not purely for what they said either.


  I did sit down for about ten minutes with Jamie and had a conversation which was not to over the top. He asked me about what I had thought about things after the first day and such and that was pretty much it for the agency part of the conversation the rest was normal kind of convo between a couple of guys. I did not keep him too long as he is a pretty busy dude as was I.


 Now after all the meetings conversations dates and such there were two that I clicked with and them the same. The first one was the first introduction from the first day who was forty minutes late so we could only talk for twenty but there was some chemistry. The second one was the one who cancelled (This was a legit cancellation for family illness I checked things out thoroughly) that was supposed to be in the three girl meeting on the first day. She rescheduled for the second day and showed up 1-1/2 hours early from our scheduled meeting time and waited while I met and talked to two others. The first girl did not budget her travel time properly for the morning traffic rush and the distance she had to travel. She was either right on time or early for a meeting there after. The second girl was early for every subsequent meeting thereafter. I did not request this or make any statements to either about being late or cancelling previously and basically let them have enough rope to hang themselves and they did not. Both come from middle to upper middle class family’s both have finished university and both work full time.

 The first gal is 31 years old and so far as I can tell by going with my gut has all her S#it together. This is after spending a lot of time with her in the day time during my stay and taking a nice day trip to Cartagena to see the walled city and the overpriced tour of the Fort having lunch ECT. She was actually on the tail end of her vacation so it worked out pretty good for daytime stuff.
 The second girl is 27 (which I thought would be a little young starting off) but is very mature and in the same token I went with my gut on this and so far checks out the same. She worked in the days so we went out at night except for a Sunday day trip to Santa Marta on her day off.


  None of this is either here nor there though as there is still a lot of communication that has to be accomplished over the next while with both of them to see if they are what I think they are. I am planning on returning in May to visit them both again depending on what transpires in communication in the upcoming months. Perhaps I will only be visiting one of them perhaps neither who knows. They are both really pretty close to being the same girl in personality, what they want in their lives, values, drive, motivation and such. I am also in no rush to get married just for the sake of not being alone (there are some guys like that) and I made that clear right off to both of them. I explained to both of them that I am pretty happy with my life and I don’t need to get married just for the sake of being married or being needy.

 One question I did ask them both is if their parents knew about them being in the agency and both girls had told their family’s about this. This for me is a pretty important thing as it is strait across the board so no lying to the parents on how they met a foreign guy. In the initial meetings the girls that said no were out of the running for me as this is not an honest situation if it does get far enough along to meet mom and dad. I did not push to ask what their parents thought about it as those questions to them both will come in time.


 Do I think that I am going to marry one of these girls? Can’t tell you one way or the other and the thought really has not crossed my mind as of yet. I do like them both equally and just like I said they are very close to being pretty much exactly the same woman in my opinion right now. Perhaps one will set herself apart from the other overtime perhaps things will continue the same with both of them really who knows. I am not looking to decide on anything currently nor do I have to settle for just the first piece of eye candy that bats her eyes and wiggles her A$$ in front of me. I find them both to be quite attractive by my standards. I saw gals down there that looked better and women that did not look as good…. Same as everywhere. It’s the combination of what they have that made the difference so far and perhaps in the future. Yes I did see a lot of stunning women while I was down but I did not walk around with my tongue hanging out and my balls dragging behind me. I know there are a lot of guys going down there that are just like that and there are a lot of really needy gringos running around. What surprised me though was the amount of eye contact and smiles I did get from women down there from the young ones in the 20’s to the 40 or so year olds. Found it to be funny but at the same time interesting. Being well dressed and well groomed I think is perhaps the biggest factor.


  Yes I did take a camera and I have a lot of pictures, so no excuses from me that my phone got stolen while I was passed out or my camera broke or whatever else you may have heard from others about picture proof. No I am not going to post pictures of the girls here on the site in this post I am respecting their privacy on this matter. I am though posting a picture or two of me as I don’t feel that I need to hide from the world and really could not give a $hit if anyone sees me personally but it does reiterate that I really did make the trip and really was there in the country and not making up stories for internet fun. Just ignore the date and time stamp never set it up on the new camera.

 Oh and in closing for any other Canadians that need clarification on the 160,000 peso visa fee take COP with you makes the customs guys happy if you have the exact funds in native currency and you do not have to pay the old thirty or thirty five departure tax any more just the 160,000 up front covers everything in and out

[Awesome]

Good report, seem to be going about this in a very level-headed fashion.  I'm not sure why you feel the need to prove yourself by posting pictures but has anyone told you you kinda look like john goodman in the big lebowski?

[fathertime]

Thanks for reporting back Steve,  It sounds like you had some fun, and have a couple prospects.  Nice photos.  Did you take the two ladies anywhere interesting, or have any outings of interest generally? 


Fathertime!

[Gato4Astrid]

Mr John Goodman


Nice report and good luck in going back there again in May

[Kiltboy1]

Hey

That was a White Russian--Did you just throw away my White Russian ?
The Dude is not happy 

One of the best flicks ever !

You do look a little like Goodman a little

Nice report and good to get your feet wet.

KB

[stevekoozer]

Goodman is a lot bigger than me I am only going about 240 right now but have my waist almost to a 35 so not bad for bulking in the wintertime. I think this may be my last ever winter bulk though my joints are starting to biotch and moan a bit with the heavy stuff so looks like I will be trimming back to about 200-210 and staying put everything comes to an end.     Oh well LOL 


Nope never heard the Goodman thing ever. When I am trimmed out and have my beard trimmed short I have heard either Jason Statham or Bruce Wills and similar I don't pay attention to it.

Yup went to Cart and SM you must have missed it then again I typed it up on 4 hours sleep and never re checked it before I chucked it up so perhaps my inaccurate verbiage caused you to miss it. When I head back in May I will probably check out to the coffee triangle. I don't really have any interest in Med or Bog right now but perhaps in the future who knows.

Have never seen the movie so I can't comment.     

[utopiacowboy]

The Big Lebowski? You gotta be kidding me.

[fathertime]

Yup went to Cart and SM you must have missed it then again I typed it up on 4 hours sleep and never re checked it before I chucked it up so perhaps my inaccurate verbiage caused you to miss it. When I head back in May I will probably check out to the coffee triangle. I don't really have any interest in Med or Bog right now but perhaps in the future who knows. 

It is me that must have missed some sleep, you typed it and I just missed it.  Sounds fun, I really enjoyed taking the ladies into pools, the water park, or even the Ocean....when they aren't good swimmers they get rather clingy. 


Fathertime!   

[robert angel]

That's one of the best trip reports here in a while and not only is it informative--helpful, but hopefully you're helping some guys sitting on the fence make a move, thinking "I can do that too".

Personally, I don't know Jamie from Johnnie, but it always sounded to me like he ran a decent operation in an field where it's not that common. Nice to see some objective validation there.

How do you think in comparison it would have come out in numbers of women you met (prospects, not just warm bodies) and number of dollars spent if you just worked the internet setting up dates, got your own hotel and maybe tried to hire a translator?

The Big Lebowski? Funny movie, even if my wife hates it (all the swearing and quirky stuff) but as for physical resemblance, I don't see it. Consider the source...

All the same, for being on a pretty cool wavelength IMHO, we'll give you the honorary title from 'The B.L.' of "The Dude" for the rest of the month, try and abide with you won't F with the rug!

[Calipro]

 The first gal is 31 years old and so far as I can tell by going with my gut has all her S#it together. This is after spending a lot of time with her in the day time during my stay and taking a nice day trip to Cartagena to see the walled city and the overpriced tour of the Fort having lunch ECT. She was actually on the tail end of her vacation so it worked out pretty good for daytime stuff.
 The second girl is 27 (which I thought would be a little young starting off) but is very mature and in the same token I went with my gut on this and so far checks out the same. She worked in the days so we went out at night except for a Sunday day trip to Santa Marta on her day off.

Seems like you spent a bit of time with each woman....any romance or sparks to speak of?

[Calipro]

That's one of the best trip reports here in a while and not only is it informative--helpful, but hopefully you're helping some guys sitting on the fence make a move, thinking "I can do that too".

The trip report left me with a lot more questions than answers.


He met 32 women and some how whittled it down to just two....on gut instinct...from what I gather.


Then for all intents and proposes he can't tell the two apart....which one had more chemistry with him...which one was the best kisser and which one was overall more affectionate and interested.


Well....maybe he didn't even get pass first base...But I hope that isn't the case.


I sure hope this isn't one of those cases where the guy thinks the women will respect him more and think he is more serious about marriage if he doesn't try getting romantic.

[robert angel]

The trip report left me with a lot more questions than answers.


He met 32 women and some how whittled it down to just two....on gut instinct...from what I gather.


Then for all intents and proposes he can't tell the two apart....which one had more chemistry with him...which one was the best kisser and which one was overall more affectionate and interested.


Well....maybe he didn't even get pass first base...But I hope that isn't the case.


I sure hope this isn't one of those cases where the guy thinks the women will respect him more and think he is more serious about marriage if he doesn't try getting romantic.

I think it's pretty clear that he didn't have the time (were it his intention) to get intimate with 32 different women in a short amount of time. That would even challenge me, lol. As indicated, he's not making any clear calls, not saying these two are the end all game--seems more like they're the beginning and heading back in May, he'll decide how he wants to continue. Generally speaking, you have to break some ice before physical sparks can commence, although I've known some guys who could get all lit up and hump fire hydrants in short order. Takes all kinds, I guess!

To each his own, but I think you and SK operate very differently and have very different mindsets.

[Calipro]

I think it's pretty clear that he didn't have the time (were it his intention) to get intimate with 32 different women in a short amount of time. That would even challenge me, lol. As indicated, he's not making any clear calls, not saying these two are the end all game--seems more like they're the beginning and heading back in May, he'll decide how he wants to continue. Generally speaking, you have to break some ice before physical sparks can commence, although I've known some guys who could get all lit up and hump fire hydrants in short order. Takes all kinds, I guess!

To each his own, but I think you and SK operate very differently and have very different mindsets.

Well you got me there....I don't know any hydrant humping guys.


But if he didn't go from 32 down to 2 based on chemistry then what was it?


Under normal circumstances in Colombia....if a chick likes you enough to spend all day with you....she likes you enough to give you a pretty damn good kiss. If she doesn't well then Houston we have a problem.

[stevekoozer]

Well you got me there....I don't know any hydrant humping guys.


But if he didn't go from 32 down to 2 based on chemistry then what was it?


Under normal circumstances in Colombia....if a chick likes you enough to spend all day with you....she likes you enough to give you a pretty damn good kiss. If she doesn't well then Houston we have a problem.

 Went down in numbers based on a lot of factors chemistry being one of them. I figured that was implied in my post perhaps not clearly. Like I had said about them both being very similar this includes chemistry.

 Gentlemen I hope this thread does not get left turned or blitzed into a $hit show like so many others.

 If it does I will have it removed.

[Awesome]

Well you got me there....I don't know any hydrant humping guys.


But if he didn't go from 32 down to 2 based on chemistry then what was it?


Under normal circumstances in Colombia....if a chick likes you enough to spend all day with you....she likes you enough to give you a pretty damn good kiss. If she doesn't well then Houston we have a problem.

From the looks of sk's photo he looks like a full grown man and as such god help him if he actually needs any advice from pl's resident (wannabe)sleazeball regarding intimacy with the opposite sex.

[mambocowboy]

 Went down in numbers based on a lot of factors chemistry being one of them. I figured that was implied in my post perhaps not clearly. Like I had said about them both being very similar this includes chemistry.

 Gentlemen I hope this thread does not get left turned or blitzed into a $hit show like so many others.

 If it does I will have it removed.

Steve,
You sound like you are going about this the right way. For long term relationship success IMO it is important to keep a clear head and it sounds like that is what you are doing.

[cdr1974]

So now that I am back here is a trip report of my experience using Jamie’s agency and my experience with my time in BAQ.



So for me this is a first using an agency( as most of you know) and I feel that it was the right choice for me as the culture is different than what I am used to in my travels to other Latin speaking countries over the years. My Spanish speaking skills are ok as well as my understanding of Spanish in a conversation….. Reading and writing are a whole different thing for me mind you. I went with the interpreter and I am glad I did. Colombian Spanish is a bit different for me and man do they speak fast which is somewhat of an oxymoron as nothing really happens too fast in Colombia versus what I am used to here and elsewhere in the world. The girl that was translating for me did an excellent job when required to keep communication clear on both ends. So it was about a 50-50 split I got help when I needed it in conversations with the gals and vice versa and that was a plus to help all concerned understand clearly.

 So I met a total of about 30-32 women, I did not keep an accurate count as I was quite a busy fellow during all the initial meetings. I never actually had one of the large group meetings. It was just the way it worked out based on the selections I had made and the schedules of the girls and the days I was there. I had one meeting that was scheduled with three on the first day but one called and cancelled (more on this later) so it became a meeting of two. There were of course cancellations, no shows and such outside of the ones I did meet and talk with. The set up that Jamie has for all this is different and is not for everybody. It was bit hard on the head as the initial meetings pretty much end up being the same questions asked over and over again by the girls at least but not like they were following a scripted monologue.

 I do agree with the way he does this though as dating anywhere is really a numbers game as we all know. The single meets are I would say are better for getting the women a little more relaxed and into conversation versus talking in front of a bunch of other girls. There were girls that were very prompt with the scheduled meeting time, some that were a few minutes late and some that were quite late. I did not take this to heart as this is the way things are there and did not base my judgement on seeing a girl for a morning, lunch or dinner date because of timing on their behalf. I went out with the girls that I wanted to talk with more because of the conversation we had in our first meeting not purely for looks and not purely for what they said either.


  I did sit down for about ten minutes with Jamie and had a conversation which was not to over the top. He asked me about what I had thought about things after the first day and such and that was pretty much it for the agency part of the conversation the rest was normal kind of convo between a couple of guys. I did not keep him too long as he is a pretty busy dude as was I.


 Now after all the meetings conversations dates and such there were two that I clicked with and them the same. The first one was the first introduction from the first day who was forty minutes late so we could only talk for twenty but there was some chemistry. The second one was the one who cancelled (This was a legit cancellation for family illness I checked things out thoroughly) that was supposed to be in the three girl meeting on the first day. She rescheduled for the second day and showed up 1-1/2 hours early from our scheduled meeting time and waited while I met and talked to two others. The first girl did not budget her travel time properly for the morning traffic rush and the distance she had to travel. She was either right on time or early for a meeting there after. The second girl was early for every subsequent meeting thereafter. I did not request this or make any statements to either about being late or cancelling previously and basically let them have enough rope to hang themselves and they did not. Both come from middle to upper middle class family’s both have finished university and both work full time.

 The first gal is 31 years old and so far as I can tell by going with my gut has all her S#it together. This is after spending a lot of time with her in the day time during my stay and taking a nice day trip to Cartagena to see the walled city and the overpriced tour of the Fort having lunch ECT. She was actually on the tail end of her vacation so it worked out pretty good for daytime stuff.
 The second girl is 27 (which I thought would be a little young starting off) but is very mature and in the same token I went with my gut on this and so far checks out the same. She worked in the days so we went out at night except for a Sunday day trip to Santa Marta on her day off.


  None of this is either here nor there though as there is still a lot of communication that has to be accomplished over the next while with both of them to see if they are what I think they are. I am planning on returning in May to visit them both again depending on what transpires in communication in the upcoming months. Perhaps I will only be visiting one of them perhaps neither who knows. They are both really pretty close to being the same girl in personality, what they want in their lives, values, drive, motivation and such. I am also in no rush to get married just for the sake of not being alone (there are some guys like that) and I made that clear right off to both of them. I explained to both of them that I am pretty happy with my life and I don’t need to get married just for the sake of being married or being needy.

 One question I did ask them both is if their parents knew about them being in the agency and both girls had told their family’s about this. This for me is a pretty important thing as it is strait across the board so no lying to the parents on how they met a foreign guy. In the initial meetings the girls that said no were out of the running for me as this is not an honest situation if it does get far enough along to meet mom and dad. I did not push to ask what their parents thought about it as those questions to them both will come in time.


 Do I think that I am going to marry one of these girls? Can’t tell you one way or the other and the thought really has not crossed my mind as of yet. I do like them both equally and just like I said they are very close to being pretty much exactly the same woman in my opinion right now. Perhaps one will set herself apart from the other overtime perhaps things will continue the same with both of them really who knows. I am not looking to decide on anything currently nor do I have to settle for just the first piece of eye candy that bats her eyes and wiggles her A$$ in front of me. I find them both to be quite attractive by my standards. I saw gals down there that looked better and women that did not look as good…. Same as everywhere. It’s the combination of what they have that made the difference so far and perhaps in the future. Yes I did see a lot of stunning women while I was down but I did not walk around with my tongue hanging out and my balls dragging behind me. I know there are a lot of guys going down there that are just like that and there are a lot of really needy gringos running around. What surprised me though was the amount of eye contact and smiles I did get from women down there from the young ones in the 20’s to the 40 or so year olds. Found it to be funny but at the same time interesting. Being well dressed and well groomed I think is perhaps the biggest factor.


  Yes I did take a camera and I have a lot of pictures, so no excuses from me that my phone got stolen while I was passed out or my camera broke or whatever else you may have heard from others about picture proof. No I am not going to post pictures of the girls here on the site in this post I am respecting their privacy on this matter. I am though posting a picture or two of me as I don’t feel that I need to hide from the world and really could not give a $hit if anyone sees me personally but it does reiterate that I really did make the trip and really was there in the country and not making up stories for internet fun. Just ignore the date and time stamp never set it up on the new camera.

 Oh and in closing for any other Canadians that need clarification on the 160,000 peso visa fee take COP with you makes the customs guys happy if you have the exact funds in native currency and you do not have to pay the old thirty or thirty five departure tax any more just the 160,000 up front covers everything in and out

A fabulous and detailed trip Report Steve, sounds like you had a great time down there...


Did you ever pay much attention to what the girls did with regards to work etc etc? Did you ever find yourself trying yo kill time, especially after the initial introductions? This was something that bothered me during the day, killing time, there aint that much to in Baq after the initial first dates are over. Keep going out for meals with dozens of chicks soon stacks up the $

[stevekoozer]

That's one of the best trip reports here in a while and not only is it informative--helpful, but hopefully you're helping some guys sitting on the fence make a move, thinking "I can do that too".

Personally, I don't know Jamie from Johnnie, but it always sounded to me like he ran a decent operation in an field where it's not that common. Nice to see some objective validation there. He did provide exactly what he says he provides which in my opinion is the most important part of this for someone deciding to use an agency. There are too many business of all types  on the planet that don't provide what they say they will provide. This is not a process that is right for every guy out there though. If you are lacking in social skills, confidence, self worth and such ( I think expat says something like living in moms basement in moose dick falls Idaho) stay home and work on yourself you will be better adept at keeping your eyes open and not being taken for a ride.   

How do you think in comparison it would have come out in numbers of women you met (prospects, not just warm bodies) and number of dollars spent if you just worked the internet setting up dates, got your own hotel and maybe tried to hire a translator?
Well Rob good question I think that expenses would probably be similar as there would be more logistical work that would have to be done on my end and any costs that could entail having to have more city coverage and such. Realistically I think in a situation like this when a guy uses an agency the dollars are not a huge factor as I would say that the majority of the guys are mature and have a couple of decades at least in their profession's and have an education. Now this is not every single guy but I would say does make up the probably largest percentage sure there are young guys and older retired guys in the mix. From what I experienced there while out in public, I don't think I would have any issue meeting more than enough women in regular situations but I would still have to meet a bunch to get any amount dates and second dates third dates ect. 

The Big Lebowski? Funny movie, even if my wife hates it (all the swearing and quirky stuff) but as for physical resemblance, I don't see it. Consider the source...

All the same, for being on a pretty cool wavelength IMHO, we'll give you the honorary title from 'The B.L.' of "The Dude" for the rest of the month, try and abide with you won't F with the rug!

[kai #2]

Nice report. Glad you had fun. I can't lie though are some stunners out that particular city. I know why guys like going out that way now

[stevekoozer]

A fabulous and detailed trip Report Steve, sounds like you had a great time down there...


Did you ever pay much attention to what the girls did with regards to work etc etc? Did you ever find yourself trying yo kill time, especially after the initial introductions? This was something that bothered me during the day, killing time, there aint that much to in Baq after the initial first dates are over. Keep going out for meals with dozens of chicks soon stacks up the $

 Yes work questioning was inevitable on both ends as well as education and all the other dry getting to know you details. I had almost no down time except for one day that I wanted to myself so I could go shopping to work on my wardrobe and just experiment a bit with regular local women with out having a date with me and compare the situation to what I experience here. Had a few dinners out but for the most part meals were pretty simple with the two I am interested in,,,, so the bank never got broken on expensive restaurants they were quite happy with regular outings like coffee and a pastry or getting a Cuban for lunch something simple.   

[billinsandiego]

I plan on going to Jamie's sometime in March/April.  Pardon me if I missed it, but how much time did you spend in BAQ?  I plan on staying 7 days due to my work schedule (I am a teacher). 

[fathertime]

I plan on going to Jamie's sometime in March/April.  Pardon me if I missed it, but how much time did you spend in BAQ?  I plan on staying 7 days due to my work schedule (I am a teacher).

Spring break week I assume.   I had one trip in Barranquilla at Jamie's,  where I was having such a good time that I extended it by several days and happily took the heat when I got back to the states...


Fathertime!

[robert angel]

Spring break week I assume.   I had one trip in Barranquilla at Jamie's,  where I was having such a good time that I extended it by several days and happily took the heat when I got back to the states...


Fathertime!

Heck, never mind the heat from staying on, as long as your job's still waiting--were I single again and a bit younger--that kind of 'cooking'--namely 'Spring Break' sounds like a mighty fine recipe!

[DRGUY1]

Good report Steve….Chemistry is the key when you meet that many women in such a short period of time.


Time will tell how sincere they are, and if one will separate herself from the other.


Worst case, you'll be visiting 2 Latinas again in May.


Good Read...

[billinsandiego]

Heck, never mind the heat from staying on, as long as your job's still waiting--were I single again and a bit younger--that kind of 'cooking'--namely 'Spring Break' sounds like a mighty fine recipe!

Reading all these posts and also observing the profiles on Jamie's site, I understand what you're talking about.  However, I owe it to my students to be there.  I plan on going back (if everything works out) during the summer for an extended stay. 

My real question:  Is seven days long enough?  I do have some women in mind (from Jamie's website) that I find attractive. 

Any help with be much appreciated.