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I purchased a cheap basic smartphone in Colombia for like 40 bucks.  It does everything you'd need, whatsapp, phone calls, text, internet browser.  And the sim card with minutes/data cost like 5 bucks.  If you have an unlocked phone already then just buy the sim card from Claro with minutes/data and you'll spend about 5 bucks which should last you about 2 weeks.




I think you should do good with a REPUTABLE agency like Jamie's or Maria Bueno's.  Expat is right that the best way to meet women would be through people you know/social circle, but since you probably won't be there long enough for that the agency should be able to introduce you to some quality women.  I honestly believe that the agencies will be able to find you some good women who aren't "golddiggers".  Steve Koozer recently found a great woman through Jamie's agency, and his trip reports give a lot of good insight for someone in your position.




As for the advice to just find a latina in the US, it depends where you live.  Do you live in a city with many latinos?  Do you speak Spanish?  The term "latina" is a very broad generalization in the US.  There are 5th generation Mexican-American women who don't know a word of Spanish and are 500% Americanized, to women who moved to the States as teenagers who learned English in American school but are still very traditional latinas.  Then there are women who moved to the US when they were already adults and speak little to no English.  For example in my home town it would be very very easy to find latinas who are college-educated, gorgeous, sophisticated, and are dying to get married and start having babies, but that's not the case in every city, especially if you live in Little Rock or Nashville, or Salt Lake City for example.




Anyway, I think you'll do fine in Colombia.  I say just have fun and use common sense.  Chemistry is everything and you should KNOW when you have a good connection with a sincere woman, you'll be able to FEEL it.


One thing to keep in mind is while you're getting to know a woman try to get a feel for her personality and think how she will behave once things have move on from the "honeymoon stage".  Does she seem very quick to agree with whatever you say or suggest?  Does she have considerable mood swings?  How is her relationship with family and friends?  How much importance does she put into material things like clothes, jewelry, cars, houses, purses?  Does she order the most expensive thing on the menu?  How does she treat waiters/waitresses at a restaurant?


And whatever you do, DO NOT be like Hector Lavoe and verbally ask her "how do you feel about premarital sex?".  Absolutely nothing good can come from asking a woman that.  If it's meant to happen it will happen, and if/when it does happen you'll know if it felt "right" or if it felt "artificial", then you can proceed accordingly.

[robert angel]

I purchased a cheap basic smartphone in Colombia for like 40 bucks.  It does everything you'd need, whatsapp, phone calls, text, internet browser.  And the sim card with minutes/data cost like 5 bucks.  If you have an unlocked phone already then just buy the sim card from Claro with minutes/data and you'll spend about 5 bucks which should last you about 2 weeks.




I think you should do good with a REPUTABLE agency like Jamie's or Maria Bueno's.  Expat is right that the best way to meet women would be through people you know/social circle, but since you probably won't be there long enough for that the agency should be able to introduce you to some quality women.  I honestly believe that the agencies will be able to find you some good women who aren't "golddiggers".  Steve Koozer recently found a great woman through Jamie's agency, and his trip reports give a lot of good insight for someone in your position.




As for the advice to just find a latina in the US, it depends where you live.  Do you live in a city with many latinos?  Do you speak Spanish?  The term "latina" is a very broad generalization in the US.  There are 5th generation Mexican-American women who don't know a word of Spanish and are 500% Americanized, to women who moved to the States as teenagers who learned English in American school but are still very traditional latinas.  Then there are women who moved to the US when they were already adults and speak little to no English.  For example in my home town it would be very very easy to find latinas who are college-educated, gorgeous, sophisticated, and are dying to get married and start having babies, but that's not the case in every city, especially if you live in Little Rock or Nashville, or Salt Lake City for example.




Anyway, I think you'll do fine in Colombia.  I say just have fun and use common sense.  Chemistry is everything and you should KNOW when you have a good connection with a sincere woman, you'll be able to FEEL it.


One thing to keep in mind is while you're getting to know a woman try to get a feel for her personality and think how she will behave once things have move on from the "honeymoon stage".  Does she seem very quick to agree with whatever you say or suggest?  Does she have considerable mood swings?  How is her relationship with family and friends?  How much importance does she put into material things like clothes, jewelry, cars, houses, purses?  Does she order the most expensive thing on the menu?  How does she treat waiters/waitresses at a restaurant?


And whatever you do, DO NOT be like Hector Lavoe and verbally ask her "how do you feel about premarital sex?".  Absolutely nothing good can come from asking a woman that.  If it's meant to happen it will happen, and if/when it does happen you'll know if it felt "right" or if it felt "artificial", then you can proceed accordingly.

Suprisingly even, excellent post, save for the dig at Hector, who volunteered himself that asking was an uncharacteristically bone headed move for him. But it probably gave some members, pause about pushing the 'sex question' too early. He didn't have to admit he said it--that took true grit, while some people here act like they can do no wrong, that they're 'the man', which more often than not when people say and act like they're such, they're more like laughing stock.

I don't think that saying: "DO NOT be like Hector..." is the right way to put it, as that's not how he seems to 'be', either. But aside from that dig, a lot of good points, all covered by others here previously, but well put into one post here.

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Suprisingly even, excellent post, save for the dig at Hector, who volunteered himself that asking was an uncharacteristically bone headed move for him. But it probably gave some members, pause about pushing the 'sex question' too early. He didn't have to admit he said it--that took true grit, while some people here act like they can do no wrong, that they're 'the man', which more often than not when people say and act like they're such, they're more like laughing stock.

I don't think that saying: "DO NOT be like Hector..." is the right way to put it, as that's not how he seems to 'be', either. But aside from that dig, a lot of good points, all covered by others here previously, but well put into one post here.

Not meant as a "dig" at HL.  He definitely admitted it was a bonehead move, which it was.  I could probably pull up a hundred bonehead moves of my own that I've posted on this board.  We've all got to post our bonehead moves along with the smart moves so as to give info that we can all learn from.  But I thought it was worth reiterating that it's a big no no to ask a woman that question, especially a woman you're just barely starting to get to know.  I mean it may have cost HL a relationship with a great woman.  It's still very valuable info for other guys who are dating trying to find a serious relationship.  I think that HL is smart enough and thick skinned enough to not get his feelings hurt by my thoughts on his admittedly bonehead move.

[Calipro]

And whatever you do, DO NOT be like Hector Lavoe and verbally ask her "how do you feel about premarital sex?".  Absolutely nothing good can come from asking a woman that.  If it's meant to happen it will happen, and if/when it does happen you'll know if it felt "right" or if it felt "artificial", then you can proceed accordingly.

I didn't see the post where Hector said he asked a woman "how do you feel about premarital sex?".


Was there a reason to ask the question? Did she do or say something that made him wonder if she had a problem with sex?


I mean my default assumption is she is good to go unless something comes up that would lead me to think otherwise.


It took me months to get a friend of mine to stop asking girls at the end of the night if they wanted to go back to his place.....I kept telling him he was damn lucking to be young and good looking or he would never get laid. jajaja


I just get in the cab and tell the taxis driver to take me to my place....if she I'm with doesn't want to go she is free to speak up.... but I never ever ask a chick if she wants to go back to my place ever. When I had a car I would just get in and drive home and my date was coming with me even if she said she wanted to go home....I would tell them that they can call a cab from my place or get one on the street but that I was driving back to my place. At least half the time they would change their minds and stay after I got home.

[Hector_Lavoe]

I didn't see the post where Hector said he asked a woman "how do you feel about premarital sex?".

Yes, guilty as charged. I was on a first date with a girl I met through AFA in Barranquilla. She was actually pretty cute. It was a breakfast date as she had to go to work later that day, so I was not about to bring her back to my place.

The only reason I broached the topic was she mentioned she is a Baptist and attends church regularly. I met a cute girl in Nicaragua whose family is evangelical and her mother preached to her that pre-marital sex is immoral. With limited time in Barranquilla I wanted to find out fast if this girl had similar views.

As I mentioned in my trip report, I thought I might have scared her away with that question because she did not make herself available for a second date.

The good news is she actually contacted me the other day and said she wants to continue to get to know me. So despite my bone headed question I still have a shot with her... 

 

[Hector_Lavoe]

Not meant as a "dig" at HL.  He definitely admitted it was a bonehead move, which it was.

Yeah, no offense taken.

[Awesome]

The good news is she actually contacted me the other day and said she wants to continue to get to know me. So despite my bone headed question I still have a shot with her...

That's good news.  Don't screw it up again lol.




I recall in another post you said something about "We pressure ourselves too much on these trips. We feel the clock ticking and it is like we have to make something happen before we are heading back to the airport. I know because I have been there too."

You seriously need to speak for yourself on that one bro.  I've never felt like I pressure myself or feel the clock ticking, or I need to make anything happen before heading back to the airport.  Sorry but that screams of desperation and maybe you are just extremely "hard up", that's the only conclusion I can come up with.

I think you need to take some notes from Calipro so you can alleviate some of that "pressure", because it seems to be working against you and not in your favor.

[Hector_Lavoe]

I recall in another post you said something about "We pressure ourselves too much on these trips. We feel the clock ticking and it is like we have to make something happen before we are heading back to the airport. I know because I have been there too."

You seriously need to speak for yourself on that one bro.  I've never felt like I pressure myself or feel the clock ticking, or I need to make anything happen before heading back to the airport.  Sorry but that screams of desperation and maybe you are just extremely "hard up", that's the only conclusion I can come up with.

I think you need to take some notes from Calipro so you can alleviate some of that "pressure", because it seems to be working against you and not in your favor.

Haha. Yep, that was in reply your post about not getting the one night stand with the Venezuelan chick when you were in Cucuta. So maybe YOU need to take some pointers from Calipro.

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Haha. Yep, that was in reply your post about not getting the one night stand with the Venezuelan chick when you were in Cucuta. So maybe YOU need to take some pointers from Calipro.

Jaja!  Touche!  Buuut, that was some chick I just randomly bumped into.  I wasn't in Cucuta on any mission to hook up with any women.  I was just hanging out in a couple bars because I was bored and didn't have anything else to do.

[iambboy8012]

Great thanks for the advice guys. Good tip on taking the taxi back to my room, and then letting them decide from there, I will keep that in mind.


So been whatsapp messaging a couple woman from outside of BAQ, and I have been noticing how they hint there sad, and then mention the reasons like not having money to do stuff. I have just been ignoring those comments, or I would just say "that sucks". Is this normally how it, indirectly hinting? Although I did have one asking flat out to borrow money, which was pretty funny.

[Hector_Lavoe]

So been whatsapp messaging a couple woman from outside of BAQ, and I have been noticing how they hint there sad, and then mention the reasons like not having money to do stuff. I have just been ignoring those comments, or I would just say "that sucks". Is this normally how it, indirectly hinting? Although I did have one asking flat out to borrow money, which was pretty funny.

Where are you meeting these women? On Colombian Cupid? or through Jamie's agency?

For me personally I would run like wind from any girl that even hints at asking for money (especially ladies I have never met in person).

The sob stories are a red flag. That said, I think the way you are handling it is right. Just pretend you didn't hear/read it and/or briefly acknowledge it (e.g., "That sucks") and move on.

Is it normal or common? I've definitely read stories on P.L. before that are similar to what you are describing. Also, heard in a P.M. from another member about one hot chick who told him she had an offer from another guy from Cupid who offered to buy her a condo in her hometown! So yeah, some of these women hear about the "rich" gringos and will ask/expect crazy stuff.   

That said, I've been on and off the "cupid" sites for the last several years. I don't ever recall getting asked directly for money and I am sure I'd remember that. I also don't recall getting sob stories either.

[Calipro]

Great thanks for the advice guys. Good tip on taking the taxi back to my room, and then letting them decide from there, I will keep that in mind.


So been whatsapp messaging a couple woman from outside of BAQ, and I have been noticing how they hint there sad, and then mention the reasons like not having money to do stuff. I have just been ignoring those comments, or I would just say "that sucks". Is this normally how it, indirectly hinting? Although I did have one asking flat out to borrow money, which was pretty funny.

The one that directly asked for a loan....I would cut off contact with.


The ones that just complain about not having money....I would just ignore....But you can't really hold it against them because they complain among themselves about not having money all the time. So to them that is just a normal topic of conversation. jajaja


I would say just avoid poor chicks altogether....but if you don't speak spanish and or can't spend a lot of time in Colombia who else are you going to meet.


I mean just ask yourself.....what type of girl is going to marry a guy she doesn't know well, probably can't communicate with well and move away from her family, friends and everything she has ever known.


You got it....poor girls and damn unbelievably poor girls. jajaja

[iambboy8012]

Yea the one that flat out asked to borrow, I don't talk to her. Jamie told me just to block her. The other one it's supradioc that she complains. All are from Jamie's, that are outside of BAQ. The cupid I haven't messaged anyone yet waiting til about 2 weeks before to start messaging.


Calipro true, my Spanish is decent, I don't speak it, well because I never really had too but I understand it. People just assume I don't understand it. All the years I have lived on a border town paid off very well! Hahaha

[robert angel]

It's the real religious ones who while it might take longer, once you've gotten over that bridge and 'tripped the light fantastic'----- they're often the horniest, even most open minded and I dare say more open to 'kink'  than chicks who give it up almost before you get them in the car. And they may consider your performance in bed to be an obligation and treat you likewise, giving their very best, staying in shape, etc.

Been with enough Asian babes who were absolutey crushed if they felt they didn't satisfy me completely, to the point where while they certainly enjoyed 'the ride', they were totally putting what I wanted FIRST before their own satisfaction.

Latinas have usually been great lovers, but from my experience, they often want to get as good as they give------there's a difference in there somewhere. And I'm not saying they're unfair, just different..

I've never 'paid for play', but I know guys who know where to go in Asia where there are hookers who have such great work ethic, that if they don't completely blow your mind (amongst other things) that they will not accept any payment. NADA thing, and might even offer you a 'rain check' to boot.They take it real personal, unless the guy's a total [snip].

But women who are really religious doesn't necessarily mean they're dead set against premarital sex or won't want plenty after marriage.

Case in point: Jewish girls. I've had some rodeos with Jewish babes. Totally uninhibited chicks, including wealthy "Jewish American Princesses"(JAPs) from the finest Universities, who taught me a lot of sexual moves and beyond that, how to set up a white hot atmosphere, working up to incredibly hot, very creative sex.

Never forget that the body's largest sex organ in the BRAIN.

I think a big part of it is a lot of nice Jewish guys are a bit inhibited and don't want to seem too forward. They sort of have their own 'courtship rituals' and letting out all the stops in the bedroom with each other isn't high up the 'kosher' list. But a guy like me, a clean, fit, reasonably intelligent and we'll mannered Catholic Irish Italian? I'm a movable feast and they're HUNGRY!

I didn't count all the religions and races of women I've had relations with, but most Christian, (inc. Eastern Orthodox) Islamic and Judaic, Hindu and other Indian, as well as African religions have women who at one time or another I've enjoyed intimacy with. So many women, so little time. Glad I've sired a couple of educated, handsome and charming sons (whilst married) who will likely make the human genome a bit better off themselves.

For the long term, Asian  women suit me best, as if you choose right and as age inevitably takes away some of your virility, chances of them staying faithful and giving seem better to me than women from some other cultures.

But for sheer heart attack level, pull out all the stops sex, get me to the bar in NYC or Chicago's Ritz Carlton Hotel, let me pulhleeeze hook up with a 29 year old Jewish minx and if I die in bed, you can be damn sure I'll die a happy man. Anne, Becky, Ruthie, Elizabeth..... ---I doubt if you're reading this, but I still love ya!!!